| --- | Log | opened Tue Oct 20 00:00:34 2015 |
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| 00:35 | <twb> | Someone help me understand blkid! |
| 00:35 | <twb> | On wheezy, blkid (util-linux) says LABEL=MadMax |
| 00:35 | <twb> | On jessie, blkid (util-linux) says LABEL=MADMAX |
| 00:36 | <twb> | But on jessie, a hand-compiled busybox blkid (from upstream git) says LABEL=MadMax still! |
| 00:36 | <twb> | So where it the uppercasing happening? |
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| 00:37 | <twb> | This matters to me because I whitelist some approved discs for prison inmates to watch, and the ID_FS_LABEL contributes to my scripts recognizing which disc is which. |
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| 00:38 | <twb> | http://sprunge.us/ANZX evidence |
| 00:39 | <twb> | The fact that busybox gives the old behaviour strongly suggests the change happened in util-linux, not in the kernel. I'm grovelling through util-linux's history now |
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| 01:28 | <twb> | Strangely, between 2.20.1 (wheezy) and 2.25.2 (jessie), util-linux:libblkid gains a ID_FS_UUID for ISO9660 filesystems -- but I'm not seeing that when I run blkid on jessie |
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| 01:44 | <twb> | OK, replacing JUST libblkid.so.1 from jessie with the one from wheezy, makes it go back to "MadMax". |
| 01:46 | <twb> | *and* libblkid is enough to convince udevadm info that it's ID_FS_LABEL="MadMax" (not "MADMAX"). |
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| 01:47 | <twb> | It's not like it's calling toupper() or anything simple like that... :/ |
| 01:47 | <jm_> | what does isoinfo show with -R and -J? |
| 01:48 | <jm_> | isoinfo -d -J -i /dev/cdrom |
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| 01:49 | <twb> | ah just a sec. |
| 01:50 | <twb> | But you know you should use cd-info these days :P |
| 01:50 | <twb> | isoinfo only looks at the FIRST iso9660 filesystem on the disc |
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| 01:51 | <twb> | jm_: http://sprunge.us/jVWI |
| 01:52 | <twb> | So I wonder where the camel case comes from |
| 01:52 | <jm_> | twb: try running it with just -R and then -J and compare, I am not sure what it does if both are specified |
| 01:52 | <jm_> | I don't have cd-info installed ;) |
| 01:53 | <jm_> | ahh and also maybe run it without either -R and -J |
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| 01:56 | <twb> | Yeah I run isoinfo lots |
| 01:57 | <twb> | http://sprunge.us/gVjh?sh |
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| 01:58 | <jm_> | looks like Pete is a demanding guy |
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| 01:58 | <twb> | He was a cowboy |
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| 02:02 | <twb> | So my current theory is this disc happens to have both MadMax and MADMAX in the metadata, but in separate places, and new libblkid & new/old isoinfo read the MADMAX place, but old libblkid reads it from the MadMax place |
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| 02:08 | <jm_> | yeah that's why I suggested to compare what isoinfo says with various options |
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| 02:13 | <twb> | isoinfo says MADMAX everywhere on both wheezy & jessie |
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| 02:19 | <rade_cory8_4w9sl_null> | == |
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| 02:19 | <jm_> | yeah I suppose using gdb or adding some printf-s in libblkid would show where it's coming from and why it's that way |
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| 02:26 | <twb> | I was trying RTFS but not getting anywhere |
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| 02:30 | <jm_> | search for label and it'll find something calling memset on volume_id, it calls some superblock probe function to get that and that's where I stopped looking since it wasn't terribly obvious |
| 02:30 | <jm_> | it should be in iso9660 dir or somesuch (I already ran rm -rf) |
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| 02:31 | <jm_> | love the cg tool for this |
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| 02:38 | <twb> | OK found it |
| 02:38 | <twb> | in newer libblkid, it prefers the ISO9660 label over the UDF label |
| 02:38 | <twb> | 8053b51 2013-02-12 ZAK libblkid: Probe UDF volumes for ISO9660 info as well |
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| 02:39 | <twb> | Which was done to fix Windows install media, which have meaningful ISO9660 labels but useless UDF labels. |
| 02:40 | <twb> | Whereas this DVD, at least, has less meaningful ISO9660 labels. Joy. |
| 02:41 | <twb> | Not that it matters, tho, because isoinfo/wheezy and isoinfo/jessie return different *track lengths* (by a couple hundredths of a second), so all my hashes are invalid even if I fix the UDF vs. ISO9660 volume labels |
| 02:41 | <jm_> | ahh so it is hybrid image with both iso9660 and udf then? |
| 02:42 | <twb> | NFI, but I have the impression that there's a hefty overlap between UDF and ISO9660 |
| 02:42 | <twb> | This disc is a first-party film DVD, fwiw |
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| 02:43 | <twb> | From... Warner Bros. |
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| 02:45 | <unitd-Z> | installing printer drivers have some trouble anhy help |
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| 02:45 | <twb> | unitd-Z: what have you already tried? |
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| 02:51 | <twb> | jm_: aha, this is interesting! CD-RW can only sustain a few hundred writes to any given sector -- like early nvram. But it spins around! So should the kernel set rotational=0 on it? ;-) |
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| 02:53 | <twb> | Current versions of the UDF spec (which at least OS X doesn't support) have a "some writes" mode, separate from the default "as many writes as you like, until it breaks" default mode. |
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| 02:55 | <jm_> | twb: I suppose the kernel doesn't care except for "manage nand directly devices" (MTD or whatever the term is) |
| 02:56 | <twb> | mount -t btrfs cares about rotational |
| 02:56 | <twb> | It changes the default allocation policy from linear to "meh" |
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| 02:59 | <twb> | And yeah, mtd is direct access to flash (without a hardware flash translation layer (FTL), like sandforce). mtdblock implements an FTL in kernel. If you buy an M.2 or SATA SSD, it has a hardware FTL you can't turn off --- except for the hobbyist segment. In the SD/SDHC segment, I think the FTL is implemented in hardware in the card reader. |
| 03:01 | <jm_> | yeah I meant for cdrw devices, I think btrfs is the only one where it matters |
| 03:04 | <twb> | mkfs.btrfs /dev/cdrw FTW? |
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| 03:05 | <jm_> | heh no, I mean the kernel doesn't care about rotational for cdrw (packet writing) |
| 03:06 | <twb> | Yeah OK. |
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| 03:09 | <northbridge> | cups |
| 03:10 | <jm_> | as for btrfs, does one have to specify 'ssd' as mount option or can it rely on "rotational"? |
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| 03:11 | <northbridge> | i tryied cups packsge installer |
| 03:11 | <jm_> | cups is packaged by debian, there's no "installer" |
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| 03:11 | <northbridge> | the drivers from product support would it help? |
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| 03:12 | <northbridge> | i do not know how to install |
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| 03:13 | <jm_> | if that brings entire cups installation it can interfere with debian's |
| 03:14 | <northbridge> | samsung laser printer drivers available online are of .tyar.gz |
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| 03:15 | <jm_> | I haven't had to use any drivers from the for my el cheapo samsung laser printer (but then it stoped working with newer kernels with silly usb errors) |
| 03:15 | <jm_> | from them* |
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| 03:46 | <northbridge> | I ran ( lpstat -p -d ) and the result is (printer Samsung_M2020_Series is idle. enabled since Tue 20 Oct 2015 03:21:45 AWST) but still cannot use printer |
| 03:46 | <northbridge> | anyhelp |
| 03:46 | <northbridge> | ? |
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| 03:55 | <jm_> | does lp not work? |
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| 04:04 | <thomas> | good morning - I am running into troubles building the qemu package from scratch; I used apt-source qemu and apt-get build-dep qemu, but when I try to do debuild -b -uc -us |
| 04:05 | <thomas> | the build process fails, error messages include |
| 04:05 | <thomas> | config-temp/qemu-conf.c:1:18: fatal error: numa.h: No such file or directory |
| 04:05 | <jm_> | use the pastebin for error messages |
| 04:05 | <northbridge> | Lp is not responding with anything |
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| 04:06 | <thomas> | jm_: Ok will do |
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| 04:06 | <jm_> | thomas: tried installing libnuma-dev? |
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| 04:11 | <thomas> | jm_: Yes, but that alone does not fix it yet |
| 04:12 | <thomas> | sec, editing the output (it's several screens full) to focus on the important bits |
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| 04:12 | <thomas> | most likely all of this comes from an initial failure of the configure run |
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| 04:13 | <jm_> | so the package possibly has several bugs |
| 04:13 | <warhead> | any goog guide for make Samba 4 Active Directory domain controller on Debian? (I try with https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Setup_a_Samba_Active_Directory_Domain_Controller but don't work) |
| 04:13 | <thomas> | so the edited output of the errors is under http://paste.debian.net/317038/ |
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| 04:14 | <thomas> | it first complains about not being able to configure because spice-server and spice-protocol are needed, but both packages are installed & up-to-date |
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| 04:16 | <jm_> | you need spice devel packages, not spice-server and spice-client |
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| 04:17 | <thomas> | libspice-protocol-dev and libspice-server-dev, right ? |
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| 04:17 | <jm_> | probably yes |
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| 04:18 | <thomas> | both installed already & at newest version |
| 04:18 | <jm_> | also, if you are using testing/unstable, please ask in #debian-next |
| 04:18 | <thomas> | hmmmm |
| 04:18 | <thomas> | ah |
| 04:18 | <thomas> | ok |
| 04:18 | <thomas> | sorry |
| 04:19 | <jm_> | I can see that .dsc correctly lists libspice-server-dev libspice-protocol-dev but noti libnuma-dev |
| 04:19 | <encfs> | Hi jm_ so I fixed most of my problems with installing debian on btrfs subvolumes |
| 04:19 | <encfs> | I'm really close I just don't get what's going on now |
| 04:19 | <jm_> | also the same on jessie so I wonder why apt-get build-dep did not install these for you |
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| 04:20 | <thomas> | so the spice libs are installed |
| 04:20 | <jm_> | ahh are you trying to backport it? |
| 04:20 | <thomas> | so I think apt-get build-dep installed them, but not libnuma-dev |
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| 04:21 | <thomas> | the question seems to be rather: why does the configure script fail in spite of these libraries being there? |
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| 04:21 | <thomas> | (I am not trying to backport as far as I am aware, unless I am being stupid) |
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| 04:22 | <jm_> | check how configure is checking for it |
| 04:22 | <jm_> | should be in its log file |
| 04:22 | <thomas> | where would I find a configure log file normally ? (sorry if that's a stupid q) |
| 04:23 | <jm_> | it tells you: tail -n 50 config.log |
| 04:23 | <thomas> | ah got it |
| 04:23 | <jm_> | you also have an error for sys/endian.h |
| 04:24 | <jm_> | but that too may be related to configure failure I suppose |
| 04:24 | <jm_> | and you are on i386 or amd64 right? |
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| 04:24 | <thomas> | amd64 |
| 04:26 | <thomas> | ok |
| 04:26 | <thomas> | configre goes through if I remove the --enable-spice from the command line; the log file didn't tell me much about why it failed, will check the source of ./configure to see where it goes wrong on enable spice |
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| 04:28 | <jm_> | I thought it would use pkg-config but those devel packages don't have files for it so it must be compile test |
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| 04:34 | <thomas> | jm_: What is the proper way to report bugs to package maintainers? Email them directly, or per bugtracker, or ... ? |
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| 04:34 | <petn-randall> | thomas: Via bugtracker. |
| 04:35 | <jm_> | thomas: submit a bug |
| 04:35 | <jm_> | !reportbug |
| 04:35 | <dpkg> | reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/, or see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s04#problem-report for some general information about using reportbug and/or for <debian-installer> bug reporting. Also ask me about <report-bugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
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| 04:38 | <thomas> | thanks ! |
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| 04:48 | <netman1> | Hi All. Anybody know a good (irc) place for socat questions? |
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| 04:57 | <musca> | netman1: ##linux on freenode has ~2000 users, but sometimes a small silent channel has more excellence |
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| 05:01 | <encfs> | Hi, does anyone know how to install systemdboot on debian? |
| 05:01 | <encfs> | I searched for it through apt-cache but couldn't find it |
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| 05:05 | <jm_> | encfs: maybe this can help somewhat https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787720 |
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| 05:05 | <judd> | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/787720 in systemd (closed): «systemd: Missing /usr/lib/systemd/boot/efi for "bootctl install"»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-06-04; last modified: 2015-08-28. |
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| 05:09 | <encfs> | jm_: does this mean that it is in systemd on Debian |
| 05:09 | <encfs> | ? |
| 05:09 | <jm_> | encfs: it means it's not if I understand it correctly |
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| 05:10 | <encfs> | We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of systemd, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive. |
| 05:10 | <encfs> | I'm not sure |
| 05:10 | <jm_> | read the changelog |
| 05:10 | <encfs> | does that mean it's ifixed? |
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| 05:11 | <jm_> | ahh no I got it backwards, it says it is enabled |
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| 05:12 | <jm_> | but only in testing/unstable |
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| 05:12 | <encfs> | So do I have to configure apt to allow me to search testing/unstable in sources.list? |
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| 05:12 | <jm_> | please don't |
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| 05:13 | <encfs> | ? |
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| 05:14 | <encfs> | I"m sorry, I'm so new to Debian since I've barely gotten it installed |
| 05:14 | <jm_> | yes that's exactly why you shouldn't mix stable with testing/sid |
| 05:15 | <encfs> | Even if I only use systemdboot? |
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| 05:15 | <jm_> | especially if you want to use newer systemd yes |
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| 05:15 | <encfs> | got ya |
| 05:15 | <encfs> | thanks |
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| 05:18 | <jm_> | if you want to play with it do a full upgrade to testing, or maybe toy with it in a vm |
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| 05:18 | <dm_> | hi, i'm using debian testing with systemd i've to reinstall nvidia driverf so i have to kill X but if i go to tty1 or 2 o any other i don't get any login any idea ? |
| 05:20 | <jm_> | dm_: as the topic says, for testing please ask in #debian-next |
| 05:20 | <dm_> | ok sorry |
| 05:20 | <jm_> | check if 'systemctl | grep getty' lists anything |
| 05:21 | <jm_> | there should be getty@tty1.service active, I've seen people ask about this before in #debian |
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| 05:51 | <EmleyMoor> | Is there a good "test" expression/combination to determine "first Thursday of the month" in a shell script, where a two-digit representation of the date is also needed for other purposes? |
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| 05:53 | <testuser> | Hello, I've encountered a problem. Recently I did a mistake installing some new packages from newer version of distro (to be precise, i've installed gcc5 from there), but now I'm encountering serious dependency issues that prevent me from installing practically anything. This is an example of how serious situation is: http://pastebin.com/NxtAYKca |
| 05:53 | <themill> | testuser: mixing wheezy and sid? |
| 05:54 | <testuser> | Well I've mixed wheezy and jessie(or maybe it was sid afterall, i dont recall) ._. I did install only 1 package and then removed sid from apt source list |
| 05:55 | <themill> | well gcc5 isn't in jessie |
| 05:55 | <testuser> | I tried to use aptitude to correct this problem, and this is best I've got: http://pastebin.com/gnfcwsTH |
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| 05:56 | <themill> | !show sources.list testuser |
| 05:56 | <dpkg> | testuser: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} |
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| 05:58 | <testuser> | themill: There you go: http://pastebin.com/hr6Mgrwt |
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| 05:59 | <themill> | ick. What a mess. I'm not touching that. |
| 05:59 | <themill> | Good luck |
| 06:00 | <testuser> | well I could try remove unnecessary repos and leave only debian ones lol |
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| 06:03 | <petn-randall> | !frankendebian testuser |
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| 06:07 | <testuser> | I've reduces my repos to having just this: http://pastebin.com/LwMmCb0t |
| 06:07 | <testuser> | reduced* |
| 06:08 | <petn-randall> | testuser: I recommend reinstalling, and not using any 3rd party repos. |
| 06:08 | <petn-randall> | !frankendebian |
| 06:08 | <dpkg> | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 06:08 | <petn-randall> | testuser: ^^^^^ |
| 06:08 | <EmleyMoor> | If $3 in a bash script is equal to a 2-digit representation of a date in the month, would [ "$3" \< "08" ] return true if the date in the month is no greater than the 7th? |
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| 06:09 | <jm_> | EmleyMoor: use -lt not < |
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| 06:10 | <EmleyMoor> | jm: Does that work for lexical less? |
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| 06:12 | <testuser> | petn-randall: Well, is there a way to forcefully upgrade entire distro to Jessie w/o losing settings for most of applications? I mean like overwrite-upgrade lol |
| 06:12 | <EmleyMoor> | (or, in other words, would the string "0[1-7]" be considered a number less than 8? |
| 06:12 | <dojn> | hi, how to totally disable suspension (to ram) and hibernation on my debian? |
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| 06:13 | <petn-randall> | testuser: Yeah, but only if the upgrade even works. But seeing that you have dependency issues already pre-upgrade, chances are slim that it'll work. |
| 06:13 | <jm_> | EmleyMoor: that's why I suggested to use -lt because that's an arithmetic operator |
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| 06:15 | <EmleyMoor> | jm_: So, leaving the question still fizzing, you'd say "yes"... hmmm... can see me having to test this a bit more thoroughly |
| 06:17 | <EmleyMoor> | jm_: -lt does not perform as expected |
| 06:17 | <jm_> | EmleyMoor: how so? |
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| 06:18 | <EmleyMoor> | Hmmm... neither does \<, so the cause is something else |
| 06:18 | <jm_> | dojn: what do you use to suspend? |
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| 06:22 | <EmleyMoor> | OK, -lt does work... |
| 06:22 | <MarkedOne> | Hello.. i am confused about locales.. i have read that on server there should not be a locale.. now when i ssh to my server.. i cannot type characters like š ž é etc. can anyone help me? |
| 06:22 | <MarkedOne> | when i open vim there š ž works.. but directly to terminal no |
| 06:23 | <jm_> | should not be a locale? that's rubbish |
| 06:23 | <dojn> | jm_: nothing. System suspends e.g. when I close the lid. I guess it could suspend also on low battery etc. I want to stop any form of suspention. |
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| 06:24 | <jm_> | dojn: try https://wiki.debian.org/SystemdSuspendSedation |
| 06:24 | <MarkedOne> | jm_: i will find it for you... when i cat /etc/default/locale it outputs LANG="C" |
| 06:24 | <testuser> | Hm I think I have localized the problem. The packages gcc-5-base and gcc-4.7-base conflict, i.e. gcc-5 doesnt want to downgrade. Is there *any* way to forcefully downgrade it, providen I have the right .deb file to install? |
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| 06:25 | <petn-randall> | !downgrade |
| 06:25 | <dpkg> | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 06:25 | <petn-randall> | testuser: 1) Make backups 2) reinstall |
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| 06:26 | <jm_> | MarkedOne: I was just commenting on the "there should not be locale on a server" |
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| 06:27 | <MarkedOne> | jm_: i have found that sentence in official debian documentation |
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| 06:27 | <jm_> | MarkedOne: where exactly? |
| 06:27 | <pedeb> | debian jessie 8.2, I cannot install systemd-sysv, that is necessary to boot with systemd. says: "E: Package 'systemd-sysv' has no installation candidate" |
| 06:27 | <MarkedOne> | jm_: don't know exactly.. i will find it |
| 06:28 | <jm_> | !bat |
| 06:28 | <dpkg> | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: 1. the complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude/dselect run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2..." for the relevant packages and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 06:28 | <jm_> | pedeb: ^^^^^ |
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| 06:30 | <pedeb> | jm_: like this? http://paste.debian.net/317063/ |
| 06:30 | <dojn> | jm_: no, that is the bad link. it's about susp+hyber nate, not about disabling suspention |
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| 06:31 | <jm_> | dojn: ok I won't fight with you, it's exactly for disabling it on lid close |
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| 06:33 | <dojn> | jm_: where exactly is it saying how to disable that? |
| 06:33 | <jm_> | pedeb: do you have pinning configured? notice the Package pin: line |
| 06:34 | <jm_> | dojn: it gives you the clues to what change and to which value -- notice how it says "=ignored" for HandleLidSwitchDocked and "=suspend" for "HandleLidSwitch", hint hint |
| 06:35 | <pedeb> | ... yes I'm seeing this: /etc/apt/preferences.d/use-sysvinit and -1 to this package. You solved my problem! And is clear with apt-cache policy |
| 06:35 | <jm_> | right |
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| 06:35 | <pedeb> | jm_: thanx! |
| 06:35 | <dojn> | jm_: ok, I will get that page updated to state that more clearly |
| 06:36 | <jm_> | pedeb: no problem |
| 06:36 | <jm_> | dojn: man logind.conf for more info |
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| 06:40 | <dojn> | jm_: the solution that worked for me well, and seems to be more absolute, is sudo systemctl mask sleep.target suspend.target hibernate.target hybrid-sleep.target ; Do you know what is equivalent of that with openrc instead systemd? |
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| 06:41 | <dojn> | which init system is most supported other then systemd? is openrc the recommended modern improvement over initd? |
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| 06:43 | <jm_> | dojn: no idea, but that would not prevent one from using kernel interface for suspend directly, i.e. echo mem > /sys/power/state or using tools like s2* |
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| 06:43 | <shan_z> | i m trying to connect my ipod but not able to do so .anyhelp? |
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| 06:43 | <jm_> | I suppose in debian it would be sysvinit |
| 06:44 | <dojn> | shan_z: no idea about iPod, but wouldn't a "mount" option work? can it be used as mass storage device? |
| 06:45 | <MarkedOne> | jm_: I have found that... however it is not in english only in czech translation... so here https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-setup |
| 06:45 | <jm_> | apt-cache search ipod finds a few items |
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| 06:45 | <jm_> | MarkedOne: so probably a bad translation? |
| 06:47 | <MarkedOne> | jm_: chapter 6.3.1.2 in paragraph 'Poznámka' there is 1 sentence added which says "This optin is interesting as some administrators say that locales should not be used on servers" |
| 06:47 | <shan_z> | it shows mounted but cant see any files |
| 06:48 | <MarkedOne> | jm_: hmm maybe.. but that paragraph is translated correctly.. that sentence is added at the end of paragraph.. so idk |
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| 07:02 | <jm_> | MarkedOne: you ssh from linux to linux or what? |
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| 07:05 | <MarkedOne> | jm_: yes.. from debian to debian |
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| 07:05 | <MarkedOne> | jm_: i have server in my virtualbox.. for testing purposes |
| 07:06 | <jm_> | MarkedOne: so try to use locale other than C |
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| 07:08 | <MarkedOne> | jm_: thank you.. anyway.. why there is C locale? and what about server which has many users from around world..so server must have all locales installed? |
| 07:08 | <jm_> | MarkedOne: C is used because no-one configured something else, C is always available |
| 07:08 | <MarkedOne> | i though utf8 solved that problems.. |
| 07:09 | <jm_> | MarkedOne: each user can set their own locale setting ... |
| 07:09 | <MarkedOne> | jm_ yeah.. but on their locale machines? or it need to be on server too? |
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| 07:11 | <jm_> | MarkedOne: it depends, ssh can send env vars to remote side for example, in general it's set on the server |
| 07:13 | <MarkedOne> | so if i correctly understand.. server dont need to have locales installed.. only C and clients should have their locales configured as they want... and everything should be ok |
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| 07:15 | <MarkedOne> | pls correct me if i am wrong :) |
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| 07:19 | <jm_> | server needs to have locales installed |
| 07:19 | <jm_> | it's just that ssh can send LANG and LC_* vars to server, but chosen locale must still be avilable on the server |
| 07:19 | <jm_> | that's just so one doesn't need to set it there explicitely |
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| 07:21 | <MarkedOne> | jm_: oh.. that makes sense... thank you |
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| 07:21 | <MarkedOne> | jm_: now i understand why i have to install locales to my server :) it should solve my problem |
| 07:21 | <jm_> | indeed |
| 07:21 | <jm_> | and no problem |
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| 07:42 | <MarkedOne> | jm_: it works.. thank you :) |
| 07:43 | <jm_> | MarkedOne: sure, no worries |
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| 08:21 | <LinuxNoob> | hello, i try to install virtualbox 5 but i can't use USB. I have put Guest addition and the pack. Still not working |
| 08:22 | <petn-randall> | LinuxNoob: What error do you get? |
| 08:22 | <LinuxNoob> | no error, in the main window there is no usb |
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| 08:23 | <ceibal> | jj |
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| 08:26 | <LinuxNoob> | un francais dans la salle qui connaisse virtualbox? |
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| 08:27 | <petn-randall> | !fr |
| 08:27 | <dpkg> | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
| 08:27 | <LinuxNoob> | ok ty |
| 08:27 | <petn-randall> | LinuxNoob: You could check the documentation of virtualbox what the requirements are to have USB passthrough. |
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| 08:28 | <LinuxNoob> | i did but not stil working. ok..... have a nice day |
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| 09:02 | <ag_melbourne> | hello, may I ask for some help with apt-get? |
| 09:02 | <petn-randall> | ag_melbourne: Which release are you running? |
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| 09:02 | <ag_melbourne> | Wheezy |
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| 09:04 | <ag_melbourne> | My apt-get is broken. Using it results in these two lines:root@beaglebone:~# apt-get |
| 09:04 | <ag_melbourne> | apt-get: /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.18' not found (required by /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libstdc++.so.6) |
| 09:04 | <ag_melbourne> | apt-get: /lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libstdc++.so.6) |
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| 09:06 | <petn-randall> | ag_melbourne: Looks like you broke libc6 somehow. What are the last things you did regarding packages? |
| 09:07 | <ag_melbourne> | I was installing scipy with some difficulty. |
| 09:07 | <themill> | it's certainly not wheezy any more |
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| 09:09 | <ag_melbourne> | It appears that I need to re-install libc6, but not using aptitude or apt-get |
| 09:10 | <platypus> | @ag_melbourne, dpkg? |
| 09:11 | <ag_melbourne> | Thanks platypus, could you point me to a .deb please? |
| 09:12 | <platypus> | @ag_melbourne for debian squeezy? |
| 09:12 | <ag_melbourne> | No wheezy |
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| 09:14 | <platypus> | @ag_melbourne i'm no troll but i just read the last 5 lines. You want to re-install libc6? |
| 09:14 | <ag_melbourne> | Yes I think that is what is needed |
| 09:14 | <petn-randall> | !libc6 |
| 09:14 | <dpkg> | libc6 is the GNU C library version 2, which Debian GNU/Linux uses since version 2.0. Do not try to downgrade it. It is a essential component of your Debian system, and we are not responsible if it breaks. |
| 09:15 | <themill> | ag_melbourne: you can get it via packages.debian.org |
| 09:15 | <themill> | whether downgrading it actually solves your problem or not is another matter |
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| 09:17 | <ag_melbourne> | Thank you :) |
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| 09:25 | <ag_melbourne> | hello again, It appears I successfully installed libc6_2.13-38+deb7u8_armhf.deb, but the apt-get problem remains, perhaps it is apt-get that is corrupted? |
| 09:26 | <themill> | What does "ldd /usr/bin/apt-get" output? (please use a pastebin) |
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| --- | Log | closed Tue Oct 20 09:29:14 2015 |
| --- | Log | opened Tue Oct 20 09:29:19 2015 |
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| 09:29 | <ag_melbourne> | I have the output but I do not know how to use a pastebin here |
| 09:29 | <themill> | Visit http://paste.debian.net/ and then give us your URL |
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| 09:34 | <ag_melbourne> | paste.debian.net/317107 |
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| --- | Log | closed Tue Oct 20 09:36:55 2015 |
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| 11:32 | <pedeb> | hi, this kind of line is working in debian jessie? up route add -net 10.0.0.0/8 gw 10.1.58.1 dev eth1 |
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| 11:32 | <pedeb> | for /etc/network/interfaces it was working in wheezy, but seems in jessie no |
| 11:32 | <lindi-> | pedeb: how does it fail? |
| 11:33 | <pedeb> | lindi-: Failed to bring up eth1. |
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| 11:33 | <lindi-> | pedeb: any error messages? |
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| 11:34 | <pedeb> | I don't know if there is more verbose/error in any log, it's classical fail, when you're configuration is not working |
| 11:34 | <pedeb> | I'm sure there is the error |
| 11:34 | <pedeb> | I copied a working configuration from a Wheezy, and I think that in Jessie is not working |
| 11:35 | <pedeb> | lindi-: ^ |
| 11:35 | <lindi-> | pedeb: well, run "ifup eth1" and see what it outputs? |
| 11:35 | <pedeb> | lindi-: RTNETLINK answers: File exists |
| 11:35 | <pedeb> | and the other previous msg |
| 11:36 | <lindi-> | pedeb: can you please post the full contents of the interfaces file and the full output of the ifup command? |
| 11:36 | <pedeb> | aaa, didn't know there is a verbose version |
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| 11:36 | <lindi-> | pedeb: using https://paste.debian.net |
| 11:36 | <pedeb> | lindi-: ok |
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| 11:38 | <pedeb> | lindi-: http://paste.debian.net/317140/ |
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| 11:41 | <lindi-> | pedeb: and it works if you remove that "up" line? |
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| 11:42 | <pedeb> | lindi-: wow, I commented that lines and is not working |
| 11:43 | <lindi-> | pedeb: yeah so the problem is elsewhere |
| 11:43 | <pedeb> | lindi-: rebooting 8( |
| 11:43 | <lindi-> | pedeb: what's the output of "ip route"? |
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| 11:45 | <pedeb> | lindi-: after reboot it works... |
| 11:45 | <pedeb> | lindi-: I added dinamically with proxmox an interface, and I crashed something in network putting 2 default gateways in 2 interfaces |
| 11:46 | <pedeb> | that did something weird that cannot manage until the reboot |
| 11:46 | <lindi-> | pedeb: you might want to learn the "ip" command btw, "route" is confusing |
| 11:46 | <pedeb> | I will try with the new ip route if it works |
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| 11:47 | <lindi-> | pedeb: note that the syntax is slightly different |
| 11:47 | <lindi-> | pedeb: "ip route add 10.0.0.0/8 via 10.1.58.1 dev eth1" |
| 11:48 | <cole> | What channel may I ask about a problem installing my ATI graphics card on my Kali 2.0 ? |
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| 11:49 | <blast007> | !kali |
| 11:49 | <dpkg> | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 11:50 | <cole> | Thank you very much, I had a feeling that answer would be along those lines, much appreciated! |
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| 11:59 | <pedeb> | lindi-: yes! it works, thanx for your help <3 |
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| 12:47 | <ThomasKeller> | I have one network printer and several machines in my LAN |
| 12:47 | <ThomasKeller> | does each machine need to have CUPS installed locally, to use the network printer ? |
| 12:47 | <ThomasKeller> | or can I print on the network printer without having CUPS installed ? |
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| 13:08 | <jhutchins> | ThomasKeller: You'll probably find cups the easier solution, it will make setting up the driver so data is formatted properly for the printer very easy. There are other ways, but there's a reason cups is "universal". |
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| 13:22 | <zzdieg> | que pasa chavales |
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| 13:22 | <zzcabe> | Hola gente |
| 13:22 | <zzcabe> | yu mierda no nos gusta balboa |
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| 13:23 | <zzdieg> | agregarme al twitter @cabezasknicks |
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| 13:33 | <zzcabe> | ola brianjjol |
| 13:33 | <zzcabe> | ola ola ola ola |
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| 14:48 | <mk35per> | I installed libsdl1.2-dev but it doesn't contain any header files, just documentation. What should I install then? |
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| 14:49 | <blast007> | mk35per: I see header files under /usr/include/SDL/ https://packages.debian.org/jessie/amd64/libsdl1.2-dev/filelist |
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| 14:52 | <mk35per> | You're right but I didn't get those with dpkg -S libsdl1.2-dev nor libsdl1.2debian |
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| 14:53 | <blast007> | -S is a filename search. -L lists the files that belong to a package. |
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| 14:55 | <mk35per> | blast007: oh, thanks a lot |
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| 14:55 | <blast007> | no prob :) |
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| 15:06 | <bittin-> | https://air.mozilla.org/release-engineering-at-facebook/ |
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| 15:36 | <jthayer> | q |
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| 15:36 | <jthayer> | :q |
| 15:36 | <jthayer> | e |
| 15:36 | <jthayer> | ` |
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| 15:38 | <kalimark> | hey guys |
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| 15:42 | <Sp0nken> | Does anyone knows how to get the Guake drop-down-terminal to be visible on the right monitor on a dual-screen setup? I have meen mockling around trying to change some values in /usr/bin/guake but i don't get it to show it nicely on my main monitor. I have diffrient resolutions on both screens if it helps |
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| 15:42 | <kodeMan> | !list |
| 15:42 | <dpkg> | kodeman: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 15:42 | <kodeMan> | hi |
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| 15:50 | <cookieburra> | hi guys :) |
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| 16:17 | <pollux_> | hi |
| 16:17 | <pollux_> | is there a KVM channel for debian by any chance? |
| 16:17 | <pollux_> | I'm having VGA passthrough woes |
| 16:17 | <hicks> | Is there a way to start up a kde service on login to xfce? Weird question I guess, but kde has a nice config gui for the wacom intuos and I can get it to load using kcmshell4 kcm_wacomtablet, but only if I previously do kcmshell4 kcmkded and the scroll down to the "wacom tablet" service and hit start. |
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| 16:18 | <towo`> | there is a kvm-channel in general, not debian specific |
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| 16:18 | <hicks> | I'd like to start the service on login to xfce via bashrc or any other method, if anyone has any suggestions? |
| 16:18 | <pollux_> | towo`: right, not a lot of ppl in there though.. |
| 16:19 | <pollux_> | hicks: I'm sure xfce has a method of starting apps at startup like LXDE |
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| 16:19 | <towo`> | pollux_, 341 people not a lot? |
| 16:19 | <towo`> | pollux_, how many channel user you want? |
| 16:19 | <hicks> | pollux_: yeah the startup part isn't much of a problem, I just don't know if there's a way to start kde services via termainl instead of that gui? |
| 16:20 | <hicks> | my google skills are coming up short atm :( |
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| 16:23 | <alberto> | eii |
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| 16:24 | <blast007> | pollux_: note that the #kvm channel is on Freenode, not OFTC |
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| 16:25 | <Guest5981> | como puedo instalar java sdk |
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| 16:25 | <Guest5981> | en ubuntu 5.1 |
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| 16:29 | <pollux_> | towo`: #kvm? |
| 16:29 | <pollux_> | towo`: I see like 20 |
| 16:29 | <pollux_> | towo`: oh.. gotcha |
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| 16:32 | <pollux_> | towo`: thanks! |
| 16:32 | <pollux_> | blast007: thanks! |
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| 16:39 | <hicks> | Found a workaround for now, set the service phase to 0 and then I can run kdev4 on login. |
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| 19:05 | <wilber> | holas |
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| 19:52 | <Florian_> | Should I use stable or testing? I'm on a thinkpad x220 which I usually for university and browsing the internet. Stability and security are big concerns for me. |
| 19:53 | <themill> | I think you've just answered your own question. If you want to just use your machine rather (work with it rather than work on it), then use stable. |
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| 21:53 | <twb> | OK so yesterday I was looking into libblkid changing behaviour for ISO9660/UDF filesystems. |
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| 21:54 | <twb> | I noticed that after wheezy->jessie, util-linux:libblkid/src/superblocks/iso9660.c can generate a fake UUID based (solely) on the disc's modification time. |
| 21:54 | <twb> | But! When I run blkid on ISO9660 files, I don't see an UUID attribute. |
| 21:54 | <twb> | What am I doing wrong? |
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| 22:00 | <felixdz> | My other machine is stuck in boot on "A start job is running for LSB: |
| 22:01 | <felixdz> | Raise Network Interfaces 8 minutes ***/No Limit |
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| 22:01 | <felixdz> | Is there a keyboard command to interupt so I can complete the boot |
| 22:01 | <felixdz> | ? |
| 22:02 | <twb> | felixdz: no. |
| 22:02 | <twb> | Around about 2005 you could just hit ^C because it was all synchonous |
| 22:02 | <twb> | *synchronous |
| 22:02 | <twb> | But this was broken even before systemd, by startpar |
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| 22:03 | <twb> | You can boot into rescue/emergency/single mode and hopefully bypass the bad job, and fix it. |
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| 22:03 | <twb> | ctrl+alt+del *might* work where you're currently hung; the power button probably won't unless acpid is installed; systemd seems to ignore the power button until the GUI starts |
| 22:04 | <felixdz> | Thanks twb. I'll try single user |
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| 22:09 | <felixdz> | Thanks again twb! I booted into single user. I should be able to fix this. |
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| 22:11 | <twb> | felixdz: if you get stuck come back for more help |
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| 22:35 | <ando> | window 2 |
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| 22:45 | <jcrowgey> | hi folks, can anyone advise which packages I should have installed in order to support audio in via headset in a 1/8in headset jack? |
| 22:46 | <jcrowgey> | i see built-in audio analog input in pavucontrol, but no sounds registering on that channel |
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| 22:47 | <jcrowgey> | at least some sound packages are successfully installed because I have a microphone that is on a usb web-cam and that microphone is working. |
| 22:47 | <jcrowgey> | but of two headsets (headphones and microphone combo) which work on my phone (different manufacturers), the headphones are woking but i've got nothing on the micrphone |
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| 22:49 | <jcrowgey> | i thought that #debian was usually pretty busy, am i in the right channel? |
| 22:50 | <jcrowgey> | can anyone hear me? |
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| 22:52 | <lostson> | there are people around be patient if somone can help they will |
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| 22:54 | <twb> | is 1/8" the same as 3.5mm ? |
| 22:55 | <twb> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRRS says yes |
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| 22:57 | <markybob> | i can maths |
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| 22:59 | <twb> | markybob: yeah but only wackos still use pre-SI units |
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| 22:59 | <leedleLoo> | twb: 1/8" is a little smaller than 3.5mm. Source: I write software |
| 22:59 | <twb> | It's not like I have them written on a slide rule or something |
| 23:00 | <markybob> | leedleLoo, they didn't teach how to round up? ;) |
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| 23:00 | <twb> | markybob: he's probably using floats, so not exactly |
| 23:01 | <twb> | (bigrats FTW) |
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