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---Logopened Mon Oct 26 00:00:04 2015
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00:30<k-man>hmm - i'm not getting any audio from my computer
00:30<k-man>sound device is detected by the kernel ok
00:33<Arcade>sound card is not muted?
00:34<k-man>don't think so
00:34<k-man>oh doh
00:34<k-man>it was
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00:36<k-man>thanks Arcade
00:37<Arcade>y/w
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00:58<k-man>can i put a volume indicator in the xfce menu bar?
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01:03<Arcade>k-man, I think its under xfce-goodies you will find it
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01:05<Arcade>or xfce4-mixer
01:06<k-man>thanks Arcade
01:06<k-man>yep, found it
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01:12<k-man> so i spent about 2 weeks trying to use gnome3 and finally gave in and switched to xfce4, and what a pleasure xfce4 is
01:12<k-man>i mean, its so nice, everything just works, and if it doesn't you can fix it
01:13<k-man>or adjust it to just how you like it
01:13<k-man>and its FAST
01:16<Arcade>I like gnome myself once a few things are installed
01:16<k-man>fair enough :)
01:16<Arcade>steam + nvidia + a few tweaks :)
01:16<k-man>it looks nice and all, but i found it too sluggish. that might be because my video card wasn't really up to the job
01:17<Arcade>Video card model?
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03:02<kskarthik>Anyone please tell me how to install & use autoconf 2.13 in user home directory on debian 8.2 since i don't have root permissions. I am building fxos rom which requires autoconf 2.13 only
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03:23<neo^>kskarthik: Generally you could do: $ ./configure --prefix=$HOME && make && make install prefix=$HOME
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03:24<jm_>neo^: autoconf is used to create the configure script
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03:25<neo^>Use system autoconf to build autoconf 2.13. Then use 2.13 to build what you want.
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03:41<petteri>hello. any tips on how to debug my debian/rules file. I am running dpkg-buildpackage, but sometimes it fails. Probably a race condition. I would like print all the commands exectued in the rules file, is that possible?
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03:42<jm_>what does debian/rules use for building?
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03:43<petteri>"everything" it is a big legacy file
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03:44<jm_>then try make -dd
03:44<petteri>so make -dd debian/rules?
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03:47<jm_>'make -ddf debian/rules binary' probably
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03:48<petteri>ok, thanks that got me somewhere
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04:16<blackfighter>hi
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05:03<morphyeys>Hello guys, how can I disable the grouping while alt+tabbing on gnome 3?
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05:11<Ultrabonus>narod a kak raskladky v linuxe men9tb ?
05:11<Ultrabonus>9 ny6as polnyi
05:11<misterunknown>I have a problem using LXDE with Debian after removing systemd in favour of sysvinit. The lxpolkit process causes an popup message on startup saying "No session for PID x". As a result I can't shutdown or reboot the computer via the LXDE Menu (the options are simply not present). Does anyone has a hint for me how to fix this?
05:12<jm_>UltimediaOS: this is an english speaking channel
05:12<Ultrabonus>ok sorry
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05:23<Walex>misterunknown: that's really an LXDE question. Depends on what kind of session management the 'lxpolkit' expects to have. Most likely something like a service over DBUS. Perhaps given the name the traditional PolicyKit daemons would be enough.
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10:21<stripe>hi all, keep getting this error when running docker #Your kernel does not support memory swappiness capabilities, memory swappiness discarded. anything to worry about?
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10:32<pistache>does anyone has information on the status of the LXC package in Debian ?
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10:33<petn-randall>,v lxc
10:33<judd>Package: lxc on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.7.2-1; squeeze-backports: 0.8.0~rc1-4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.8.0~rc1-8+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 1:1.0.6-6+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:1.0.6-6+deb8u1; jessie-security: 1:1.0.6-6+deb8u1; sid: 1:1.0.7-10; stretch: 1:1.0.7-10
10:33<pistache>it seems like development has halted since a few months, while the last messages in the bug tracker tell that "it would be ready in a few weeks"
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10:34<pistache>I'd be realli inclined to help the packager on this, but I don't know which way to go
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10:35<pistache>oh, I can't find the source VCS for 1.0.7-10
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10:35<pistache>qa.debian.org with 'lxc' gives me a VCS where the last version is 1.0.7-7
10:35<centrx>What's the issue?
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10:36<pistache>I think the LXC package is lacking some assets (esp. in regards to unprivileged containers) and I was expecting to be released for LXC 1.1
10:37<pistache>as it was written in the bug tracker by the maintainer himself
10:38<pistache>I guess he lacks time (or any reason actually) to finish the work required for LXC 1.1, and I'd like to know if there is any way I can help
10:38<pistache>also, as the package's source VCS stopped receiving updates in august, I'm not sure if I'm actually looking at the right place for recent updates to the package
10:40<centrx>Yeah I guess 1.1 hasn't been packaged yet
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10:46<petn-randall>pistache: You can always contact the maintainer and offer help. If you need help with packaging aspects, there's always #debian-mentors.
10:46<pistache>If the maintainer is present in this channel, what would be a polite way to contact him ? ping him here, private message ?
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10:47<dondelelcaro>pistache: you can often /msg the maintainer or just ping them here with context
10:47<dondelelcaro>(or if it's a bug; file a bug)
10:48<pistache>okay, thanks
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10:48<dondelelcaro>no problem
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11:46<Cross03>recive
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11:51<mezo>hey, im trying since a long time to get a good gnome performance with the proprietary nvidia driver, but gnome feels so unsmooth. i tried many many different versions over the month and the only thing which helps is using the nouveau driver.
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11:52<mezo>animations feel extremly unsmooth, like going to app overview. sometimes scrolling in iceweasle feels also slow, like you have low fps.
11:52<petn-randall>mezo: Looks like the nouveau driver is the way to go then.
11:52<mezo>petn-randall: not really.
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12:22<Sp0nken>I'm having some problems getting cairo-dock to work properly with interacting with other applications or file manager. For e.g i only get "No disks or bookmarks were found" and the recycle-bin doesn't work
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12:57<krapace>\o hi
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13:30<blawiz_>how can i change the keyboard layout? have a new install
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13:32<blawiz_>(preferably from the console)
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13:37<krapace>try dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
13:37<krapace>sudo or su
13:37<lzz>i don't know is it direct answer but /etc/default/keyboard is a file where you can change layout but change is not immeadiate
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13:39<lzz>blawiz_: do you mean changing keyboard layout on the fly ... i don't know answer for that
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13:42<blawiz_>hmm it was right, but i can try a reboot
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13:45<blawiz>hmm still wrong keyboard layout
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13:51<blawiz>oh actually i have the right layout in the console, but not in x
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14:07<blawiz>now it works, dunno what i did :S
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14:08<krapace>you logout ?
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14:10<blawiz>i did reboot, but didnt work right away
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14:10<blawiz>https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=aosd_cat&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any .. hmm dont seem to have this package
14:10<blawiz>E: Unable to locate package aosd-cat
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14:20<grnmtn>is there a way to install the backports kernel from the installer? I need to install wheezy on a machine, but it requires newer firmware from jessie to recognize the raid controller
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14:31<abrotman>dpkg: tell grnmtn about custom netinst
14:32<abrotman>grnmtn: And why not use Jessie?
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14:49<hstl>abrotman, hi, do you see me?
14:49<abrotman>no, you're invisible.
14:49<hstl>cool
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14:49<LinuxNoob>Hello i try to install mkvextractor GUI on debian jessie. i fail too had the repository ppa:hizo/mkv-extractor-gui in synaptic. ppa:hizo/mkv-extractor-gui/ jessie-updates main
14:50<abrotman>PPA isn't meant for Debian
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14:54<descientist>JOIN #fedora-commops
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14:55<Lauwenmark>When I do a "setxkbmap -query", I get as answer: "rules: evdev, model: pc105, layout: fr, variant: latin9". Yet although the fr layout is AZERTY, When typing, the layout is QWERTY. Any idea where that inconsistency may come from? How could I debug it?
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15:09<canaima>hola
15:09<hstl>canaima, halo!
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15:10<canaima>hablas el español
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15:11<petn-randall>!es
15:11<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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15:16<hstl>!ru
15:16<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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15:51<K-202>Hi. One question about using git in Debian. When I "git push" on PC (root) and "git pull" on laptop (root), only root can edit this file until I chown it back or chmod to 777. Any way to get rid of this issue?
15:52-!-xali [~AliXohann@2a02:8108:9c40:413c:e23f:49ff:fe49:94be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:52<K-202>I know the best way is to exit from root (su) mode to normal user and then git push/pull but now it's impossible to do it without root privileges
15:53<Lauwenmark>K-202: I don't understand, why is it impossible to do without root privs?
15:53<K-202>Lauwenmark, maybe some files are owned by root or self git files - i must check it next time
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15:56<PROFESOR>Hola
15:56<kvijayan>hey
15:56<PROFESOR>alguien habla en español en este lugar?
15:57<K-202>Nein!
15:57<kvijayan>so I just dist-upgraded my debian on virtualbox and discovered X doesn't start as it seems that debian's gnome now uses wayland as a display backend
15:57<kvijayan>is there a way to force the display backend bck to xorg?
15:57<kvijayan>tried purging xwayland but gnome-session-bin depends on it
15:58<Lauwenmark>kvijayan: What debian version, jessie?
15:58<kvijayan>Lauwenmark: whatever testing is at now
15:58<kvijayan>so, streatch, I think
15:58<kvijayan>*stretch
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16:01<kvijayan>is this possible or should I not try?
16:02<kvijayan>and just pin to jessie and wait until vbox gets their acceleration stuff fixed
16:02<K-202>ps -ax | grep xorg shows nothing, neither wayland/weston
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16:04<musca>kvijayan: which version of the guest additions do you use inside your vm?
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16:05<K-202>is Wayland more responsive than Xorg? is it worth to switch?
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16:05<blawiz>how can one follow these instructions? is that apt-key line supposed to be run as two lines? one line? https://www.dropbox.com/en/help/246
16:06<blawiz>i stop at "gpg: Go ahead and type your message ..."
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16:06<Lauwenmark>blawiz: The apt-key line should be on a single line, yes.
16:07<blawiz>Lauwenmark, it breaks if you try to copy paste :S
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16:07<blawiz>but works now ye :)
16:07<blawiz>just couldnt imagine you couldnt copy/paste
16:09<kvijayan>musca: lemme check.
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16:25<kvijayan>musca: 5.0.6
16:25<kvijayan>musca: sorry, had a meeting. a bit lagged.
16:25<kvijayan>but that's not the issue
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16:25<kvijayan>issue is that it's a known problem that vbox's ddrivers can't support wayland right now
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16:25<kvijayan>so I need a way to run the latest debian w/ gnome, but using xorg instead of wayland
16:26<kvijayan>I just don't know how to configure my debian system to disable/remove wayland
16:26<kvijayan>tried purging the xwayland package, but it complains because gnome-session-bin depends on it
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16:28<Lauwenmark>kvijayan: I can't help on this. I'm using Jessie myself, not Testing, and Jessie is still based on xorg, not Wayland.
16:28<kvijayan>ok
16:29<kvijayan>I think pin-to-jessie is a viable resolution of this
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21:54<sheylaedlp>hola
21:54<sheylaedlp>ayy alguien ahi
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