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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-10-29

---Logopened Thu Oct 29 00:00:09 2015
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04:00<r1k1>any guide to get nvidia optimus laptop work fluently?
04:00<r1k1>geforce 740m + intel hd 4009
04:00<r1k1>4k**
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04:09<jm_>!bumblebee
04:09<dpkg>The Bumblebee project aims to provide support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian <jessie> and <wheezy-backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee http://bumblebee-project.org/ #bumblebee on irc.freenode.net.
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05:26<Guest7029>how to create my own distribution of linux
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06:23<Sp0nken>I'm not sure if this is a bug that can be fixed or if i have to install testing-package in stable.. But it seems that icecast 2.4.0 just dosn't work, i can't establish a connection to the server. In testing and unstable (2.4.2) it works like a charm but the version in stable just doesn't. Any ideas?
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06:44<jm_>Sp0nken: have you checked BTS?
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06:45<Sp0nken>jm_ backports u mean? Yes it's only available for wheezy, not jessie. And i don't know how
06:45<Sp0nken>how to make own backports
06:45<jm_>Sp0nken: no, bug reports for it, but yeah since a newer version is in wheezy backports, you can grab it from there
06:45<jm_>!ssb
06:45<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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06:48<Sp0nken>wheezy-packports is the same version as jessie, wheezy-backports-sloppy is the same as testing and sid. But it's ok to install a wheezy-backport in jessie? Thx
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06:50<jm_>should be ok
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07:03<Ph4nt0m>Greetings people
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07:43<r1k1>@dpkg i did that, but dosent work very well i got like 800fps on linux mint i got 2,5k with nvidia prime didint find packages or dont know how to install on debian jessie
07:43<r1k1>jm_ i mean you **
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07:44<r1k1>dpkg seems bot x)
07:44<dpkg>r1k1: I don't know, could you explain it?
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07:45<chawki>salut
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07:46<jm_>all of those packages are in jessie
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08:37<philophil>!french
08:37<dpkg>Vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide sur Debian sur le canal #debian-fr - For help in french, please join #debian-fr
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09:02<Yoshi_Ichiro>irc.ibt
09:02<ZIPY>hi, does someone know how to stream audio/mp3 direct to debian/pulseaudio?
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09:05<jm_>ZIPY: what do you mean?
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09:08<pxlgirl>hi
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09:09<pxlgirl>it's been a while… ;) hope some still remember me?
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09:10<Stummi>no
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09:10<pxlgirl>those who were at dc6 and dc9 might though
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09:11<pxlgirl>holy shit that's almost 10y ago…
09:12<ZIPY>jm_: i want to connect debian to my android as bluetooth speakers
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09:15<jm_>ZIPY: no idea if that's possible
09:16<ZIPY>i found some solutions from google, but they wanted to edit /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf which is missing in debian tho
09:17<ZIPY>creating a pulseaudio sink or sth
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09:18<jm_>PA can be used over the network but I suppose android has no PA
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09:19<ZIPY>well i managed to stream audio from debian to my android over PA, but i want to use the other way round =)
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09:21<olspookishmagus>hello, does anyone recall which debian package fetches the primes binary?
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09:28<MWelchUK>ZIPY: Have you tried just creating audio.conf?
09:28<ZIPY>no, but i searched for audio.conf and found this 2 paths:/usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf.d/50-pulseaudio.conf
09:28<ZIPY>/usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-mixer/profile-sets/kinect-audio.conf
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09:30<MWelchUK>Try just creating /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf, by the look of the .conf files in that directory, what evers reading the conf files might be reading anything with a ".conf" extension.
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09:33<MWelchUK>ZIPY: Or it might be that you don't have pulseaudio-module-bluetooth installed...
09:34<Sp0nken>I just dont get this.. I'm having some trouble with icecast2 in jessie (2.4.0), i can't establish a connection to the server at all. So i tried install it in my testing-computer and even sid (2.4.2) and it worked like a charm. So i decided to install 2.4.2 in jessie through wheezy-backports-sloppy and i indeed have v 2.4.2 now, but the issue is still there.. Suggestions?
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09:35<MWelchUK>Hmm, that doesn't provide it - probably need it installed, but probably just need to create the config.
09:35<MWelchUK>Sp0nken: Firewall?
09:35<Sp0nken>MWelchUK: nope. Or well yes i'm behind a firewall but that's not the problem since it works with my other machine. I can't even connect locally
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09:37<MWelchUK>What does your testing computer run?
09:37<Sp0nken>debian testing
09:37<MWelchUK>OK ;_)
09:37<MWelchUK>:-) even
09:37<MWelchUK>Run wireshark and compare?
09:38<Sp0nken>It's the same version of icecast2 in both testing and wheezy-backports-sloppy. I can't figure out the problem
09:38<MWelchUK>DNS?
09:38<Sp0nken>w8
09:39<Sp0nken>deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports-sloppy main
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09:40<Sp0nken>what do you mean i should do with wireshark? i believe the problem is in the daemon itself. I cant even connect using localhost so i don't know how you mean wireshark could help me
09:41<MWelchUK>Compare what you can see on the network between a machine that is working and one that isn't
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09:43<ZIPY>MWelchUK: you were right, it wasnt installed, but now it is and the config file still doesnt exist. i am trying another solution right now.. if this fails too, i will try to create the audio.conf and see if this might work
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10:12<aliasd>hi, am trying to scp a tarball to the server over satellite, get this error: "Received disconnect from 185.53.131.56: 2: Packet corrupt" Usually at around 8mb, I tried running rsync through the tunnel but same effect, tried turning off checksum offload with ethtool, same.... Is it possible to send/resume a file transfer over ssh?
10:12<aliasd>Any other ideas?
10:14<petrucci>on the server:
10:14<petrucci>webshare='python -c "import SimpleHTTPServer;SimpleHTTPServer.test()"'
10:14<petrucci>webshare
10:14<petrucci>** I mean on the client
10:14<petrucci>and then on the server** really server this time:
10:14<petrucci>wget -C ip/file
10:15<petrucci>-C means that if the connection drops it will resume from where it left of before
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10:17<MWelchUK>aliasd: If the contents of the tarball is numerous small files, extract locally then do rsync?
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10:19<aliasd>wow, you both solved my problem :)
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10:43<vickycq>Hi. I came upon an old bug report in 2007(https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=438866), it says Debian ignores /etc/xprofile and ~/.xprofile.
10:43<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/438866 in gdm (closed): «gdm: Standard Xsession ignores ~/.xprofile»; severity: normal; opened: 2007-08-20; last modified: 2008-02-01.
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10:43<vickycq>Is this still the case? Thanks!
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10:50<EmleyMoor>I have a machine that is going into emergency shell at startup - how do I figure out why?
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10:52<EmleyMoor>"Dependency failed for /var
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10:53<shan_z>I have a problem opening gedit as root, The error "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
10:53<shan_z>"
10:53<shan_z>any help?
10:53<misterhat>use gksu shan_z
10:54<EmleyMoor>Seems to be mounting OK - there's loads more stuff in the log of course...
10:54<EmleyMoor>How do I find what the problem forcing emergency mode is?
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10:56<duclicsic>something in the output of dmesg will likely tell you, but other than skimming through it for obvious errors i'm not sure what else to suggest
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10:59<EmleyMoor>Other than kernel modesetting requiring firmware-linux-nonfree, nothing obvious
11:00<shan_z>misterhat, doesnt work
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11:00<misterhat>shan_z: it's because you used sudo to open X applications in the past
11:00<misterhat>now it probably has gtk configuration files in your root home directory
11:00<misterhat>or some sort of x related files
11:00<misterhat>check /root/ for GUI related dotfiles
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11:01<misterhat>and use gksu instead of sudo to open GUI applications with root in the future
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11:05<shan_z>still the same msg "Could not open X display
11:05<shan_z>No protocol specified
11:05<shan_z>Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
11:05<shan_z>(gedit:28090): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
11:05<shan_z>" Root or sudo
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11:09<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... getting "Timeoout waiting for device dev-mapper-fa00\x2dfitzalan\x2d\x2dvar.device" followed by various dependency fails and similar for "mail" (another similar volume)... that's probably triggering emergency mode. Any suggestions?
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11:33<nelio>debian br
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11:40<torouter>I've been running Jessie through the paces, so far.. I'm liking it a lot :)
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11:40<lostatwork>whats not to like
11:40<torouter>right?
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11:43<Bret_>Sorry for what must be a common question, though I'm a little stumped :) Upgraded from Debian 7 to 8 earlier, networking is borked. eth0 is listed in interfaces and I've brought it up, restarted networking but I'm still not getting anywhere. I have limited time left on a KVM that's connected to the machine so any help is gratefully received!
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11:46<torouter>do you have acces to the desktop gui or is this command line only?
11:46<Bret_>If aimed at me, I only have command line access over KVM
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11:48<torouter>Bret_: I don't know if it will be easier to do a clean install based on your stated time limitation, but are we to assume networking was functional when it has debian 7 running here?
11:49<Bret_>Well, I can extend the time on the KVM if required, it would just be charged at that point rather than free :p Yeah networking was working just fine before I rebooted the server after the dist-upgrade finished
11:50<Bret_>I'm not against doing a clean install, it was only a few basic services that I can get up and running again but if I can get networking working again then I'd obviously prefer that to save a bit of time
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11:54<torouter>give us a pastebin of your /etc/network/interfaces file
11:55<torouter>service networking restart generates any errors?
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11:56<somiaj>I wouldn't suggest using that to restart the network. just ifup/ifdown the interface after it is configured.
11:56<somiaj>Does he have any other networking tool like network manager running
11:56<Bret_>There's no output on any of the attempts to restart, though when I do systemctl status networking it said it had been up for like 50s
11:56<Bret_>so it looked to have done it
11:56<torouter>somiaj: I just wanted to see if that generated any errors to help us
11:56<somiaj>well networking is a silly service, and it isn't clear what is mean by restarting it.
11:57<somiaj>ifdown eth0 then ifup eht0
11:57<Bret_>I tried that earlier and the commands aren't found
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11:58<torouter>do ifconfig -a and make sure your nic is listed
11:58<torouter>maybe only the loopback is configured....
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11:59<Bret_>eth0 is there but looks to be only ipv6
11:59<Bret_>I base that on there being no inet addr line, only inet6 addr
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12:00<Bret_>hm, I see there's "auto eth0" above "iface eth0 inet static" in interfaces, there isn't above the inet6 line, not sure if that's the issue
12:00<duclicsic>if you know the correct ip/mask and gateway it should be using, just do: ip addr add <ip-address>/<mask> dev eth0
12:00<duclicsic>then: ip route add default via <gw-address> dev eth0
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12:09<somiaj>Bret_: do you have any info about teh static interface, or do you just say static?
12:10<Bret_>http://i.imgur.com/fGAZEP5.png is my interfaces file, somiaj
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12:11<somiaj>are you sure you don't have network manager installed or some other tool conflciting with network management. Looks fine provided all the ip's you entered are correct, not duplicated, etc
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12:12<Bret_>Unless it was installed during the upgrade, I don't think so, will check
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12:14<Bret_>Yeah, it's not installed, somiaj
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12:16<somiaj>Bret_: the only possibility I can think of is something is wrong with your setup. If you run ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0, then run 'ip eth0' or 'ifconfig' do you see eth0 correctly configured for the ip address in that file?
12:16<Bret_>ifdown/ifup result in command not found errors
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12:18<Bret_>ah hm, actually, the upgrade mentioned something about a change to the interfaces file and I believe the default option was selected, so if that was to leave it as it was on deb 7 then maybe that's it
12:18<Bret_>and a jessie specific feature/option is missing that's stopping this from running
12:19<somiaj>Bret_: do you have the ifupdown package installed?
12:19<somiaj>,v ifupdown
12:19<judd>Package: ifupdown on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.6.10; wheezy: 0.7.8; jessie: 0.7.53.1; sid: 0.7.54; stretch: 0.7.54
12:19<somiaj>or are you running those as root, they may not be in teh PATH of a normal user
12:19<duclicsic>what's with the route you're adding when the interface comes up?
12:19<duclicsic>that's not right
12:19<duclicsic>you're adding a route for your local subnet, via the gateway
12:20<Bret_>I noticed that and tried with that line commented out too as I thought it looked a little odd and it made no difference from what I recall
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12:20<Bret_>I don't have ifupdown installed but trying to install it obviously comes with the failure to resolve errors
12:20<duclicsic>get rid of the "up route add ... " etc from the interfaces file, that isn't needed
12:21<EmleyMoor>Is there an easy way to tell the link speed of one of my eth ports, if there's no way to tell from the link light?
12:21<duclicsic>EmleyMoor: ethtool <interface>
12:21<somiaj>Bret_: you can't use the interfaces file if you don't have ifupdown installed, what errors do you get when you try to install ifupdown?
12:22<Bret_>unable to resolve the mirrors it's trying to download from to source it
12:22<EmleyMoor>duclicsic: Hmmm... looks like I'll have to get that
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12:22<duclicsic>Bret_: is there an ip address assigned to eth0 right now?
12:22<duclicsic>do "ip a"
12:23<duclicsic>stop using ifconfig/route, you should be using the iproute2 tools
12:23<somiaj>Bret_: yea you don't have network. manually grab the package from packages.debian.org and copy it over to the system.
12:23<duclicsic>Bret_: this should bring your network up. http://paste.debian.net/318748/
12:23<somiaj>Bret_: or follow duclicsic advise, and manually bring up the interface so you can download the ifupdown package
12:23<Bret_>issue is I'm doing this remotely over KVM at the moment and this KVM looks to be pretty awkward, it's cutting off the view of my input
12:23<somiaj>duclicsic: ifupdown uses ip by default.
12:24<duclicsic>oops
12:24<somiaj>Bret_: but the interfaces file will not do you any good with out the scripts ifupdown to parse it.
12:24<duclicsic>missed the "dev eth0" from the end of the ip route command
12:24<duclicsic>Bret_: corrected instructions: http://paste.debian.net/318749/
12:25<EmleyMoor>OK, that settles it - my modem only connects at 100 - so if the available speed ever exceeded that I would need to replace it
12:25<Bret_>is that meant to be "5.9.455.199" too? or 255?
12:25<Bret_>or 155?
12:25<duclicsic>oops
12:25<duclicsic>155
12:26<duclicsic>i typod loads
12:26<duclicsic>just use the correct IP and gateway details
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12:26<duclicsic>not my abomination of an attempt to quickly type them out :p
12:26<duclicsic>final attempt: http://paste.debian.net/318750/
12:27<somiaj>haha, (:. Bret_ can you copy data to tha machine in any other way, or are you gonna have to manually bring up your interace to get the ifupdown package over?
12:27<Bret_>that's worked now, duclicsic
12:27<duclicsic>right, now you can install the ifupdown stuff
12:28<Bret_>I'm now getting network from it, phew.. Thank you :)
12:28<somiaj>though someone way more familar with ip than me helped out. I always use the interfaces file as my crutch. (:
12:28<somiaj>Bret_: install ifupdown and test you can use the interfaces file to bring up/down your interfaces before disconnencting the kvm
12:28<Bret_>first thing I'm going to do is get in via SSH so I can actually see what I'm doing and not having to return a few lines to see what happened
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12:34<Bret_>Ok so I've installed it, but I may have accidentally borked it again.. Networking on the KVM had gone and the last thing I saw was Processing triggers for systemd and then it just stopped, no errors, no prompts or install successful etc
12:34<Bret_>I tried removing ifupdown/isc-dhcp-client and installing again via SSH but it doesnt seem to have gone through the same processes as it did before post-install
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12:35<Bret_>unless it did actually complete? though ifdown eth0 now says interface eth0 not configured
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12:35<gio_>cizo
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12:35<gio_>ciao
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12:38<somiaj>Bret_: that is because you ddin't bring it up with ifup, ifdown --force eth0
12:38<somiaj>Bret_: then ifup eth0 and it should bring it up accordingt o your interfaces file.
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12:43<Bret_>ah, makes sense, somiaj, I did that and then ifup via KVM and it came back up again
12:44<Bret_>so do I need to do anything now to ensure that the system brings eth0 up automatically on boot etc? Or is it all ok now ifupdown is installed?
12:44<Bret_>Apologies for the rather naive questions, whilst I'm comfortable enough working with linux, things like this are still a little new to me as I don't tend to play around too much with the inners of it
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12:47<somiaj>Bret_: now that ifupdown is installed and you have your auto eth0 line you should be fine. Though always safe to est
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13:17<Bret_>somiaj: rebooted and network came back up on reboot, thanks a lot for your, duclicsic and anyone else that assisted me on that one :)
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13:17<duclicsic>you're quite welcome Bret_
13:17<Bret_>Now to go and break it by playing around with installing some virtualisation software, though if that breaks I'll just reinstall now I have everything backed up again haha, don't worry about me coming back for that ;D
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13:29<EmleyMoor>I have a filesystem mounted by autofs, which has suddenly stopped working on one machine - still works on others. I haven't seen anything in the logs that explains why. What could be wrong?
13:29<EmleyMoor>(other similar filesystems from the same server work)
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13:30<EmleyMoor>(well, at least one does)
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14:21<universal>fvf
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14:21<universal>lol
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14:40<Shunsaku>hello
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14:41<Shunsaku>someone around how can help me with an anyoing problem?
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14:44<Shunsaku>everytime I'm listening to an yotube video randomly the sound is jumping 1-3 sec back
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14:53<Guest7074>hi, i have been using debian as dekstop os for about 14 years now. it basicly runs on most hardware. since 10 years im able to buy new pc hardware, what direction should i go i would like to continue using debian as desktop pc? (amd intel? etc etc) remind you iam a end user (sorry for my bad english)
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14:54<Guest7074>i would like to get the most out of my hardware
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14:57<jmlongo>Guest7074: well... I think you can go either way you want
14:58<Guest7074>jmlongo: there are no pro's and con's?
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14:59<Guest7074>JohnML: 19:59 < Guest7074> jmlongo: there are no pro's and con's?
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15:17<esc>hi, what is the recommended way to use backports?
15:17<esc>i'd like to set it up, so that all backports are used automatically
15:17<esc>and not with -t jessie-backports
15:18<esc>ideas on how to achive this?
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15:19<pxp>Evenin' all
15:19<pxp>I just managed my first PXE boot up to initramfs
15:19<pxp>now i'm not sure how to tell it to fetch the squashfs from the NFS server
15:20<pxp>any ideas ?
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15:26<blawiz>is it safe to try to install xserver-xorg-video-intel from sid on a stable system... need newer driver for HD intel 6000
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16:11<oct>What packages do I need to get extended unicode support? Some unicode symbols are not displaying correctly(ex 1f49c aka purple heart from unicode 6)
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16:13<Brigo>oct, i think you need to install fonts, not sure whichones.
16:13<oct>Brigo: yeah, I already figured that out, problem is which one :p
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16:15<Brigo>oct, well, let me know if you find it out :)
16:16<oct>I would just do apt-get install fonts-* but I am trying to keep a minimal install
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16:23<blawiz>kinda weird apt-cache search urxvt doesnt find anything
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16:24<blawiz>its there though: rxvt-unicode
16:24<oct>blawiz: urxvt is named rxvt-unicode, why should it find it as urxvt?
16:25<blawiz>urxvt is the command
16:26<olspookishmagus>hello, which UUID should I use in my /etc/fstab?
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16:26<olspookishmagus>I'm getting different UUID values between: blkid /path _and_ lvdisplay /path | grep -i uuid
16:26<Brigo>,v urxvt
16:26<judd>No package named 'urxvt' was found in amd64.
16:26<oct>Brigo: got it, unifont appears to have most unicode symbols
16:27<Brigo>olspookishmagus, check devices, not path
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16:27<Brigo>oct, i'll check it.
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16:28<Brigo>already installed, it could have a lot, but not all, I have still problems sometimes.
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16:32<olspookishmagus>Brigo: by devices you mean: /dev/mapper/VG_Name-LV_Name
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16:33<Brigo>olspookishmagus, for example
16:33<olspookishmagus>Brigo: I've used the values there but system complains it can't find /dev/disk/by-uuid/FOO
16:34<olspookishmagus>maybe it's just debian bug #616689 to blkame
16:34<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/616689 in initramfs-tools (closed): «Root-on-LVM setup fails often due to timing issues»; severity: serious; opened: 2011-03-06; last modified: 2015-04-26.
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16:34<Brigo>olspookishmagus, each filesystem in each partitions have it own UUID, if you format it, it will get a new UUID.
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16:35<Brigo>so if you have 2 UUID you have 2 differents filesystems.
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16:41<olspookishmagus>so what is that "UUID" lvdisplay is reporting?
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17:12<Man_of_Wax>hello, i don't know if this is the correct place to ask: i need a regex in sed, awk, grep whatever that remove spaces between single letters like "H e l l o" -> "Hello"
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17:22<quantic>Man_of_Wax: echo "H e l l o" | perl -ne 's/(?<=(?<!\pL)\pL) (?=\pL(?!\pL))//g; print;'
17:24<ompaul>sed 's/^ *//;s/ *$//`
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17:25<quantic>ompaul: doesn't seem to work.
17:25<ompaul>cos I'm not thinking
17:25<ompaul>sed 's/ //g'
17:25<quantic>ompaul: but that would remove all spaces, not just those between single letters.
17:25<quantic>echo "Well h e l l o there" | perl -ne 's/(?<=(?<!\pL)\pL) (?=\pL(?!\pL))//g; print;'
17:26<quantic>Well hello there
17:26<ompaul>fair point
17:26<ompaul>I refer to my previous comment, I seem to have left my brain far away
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17:26<ompaul>there is a problem with the single letter issue
17:26<quantic>ompaul: to be fair, it WAS the first thing I thought of.
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17:27<ompaul>what if the sentence has an I in it
17:27<ompaul>Man_of_Wax: what is the data being streamed from?
17:28<quantic>ompaul: it would require having multiple consecutive instances of single letters with a space between.
17:28<ompaul>quantic: aye, I see a bit more thinking needed, what if there was a var
17:28<quantic>echo "You k n o w, I am not s u r e." | perl -ne 's/(?<=(?<!\pL)\pL) (?=\pL(?!\pL))//g; print;'
17:28<quantic>You know, I am not sure.
17:28<ompaul>cool
17:29<Man_of_Wax>thanks guys
17:29<Man_of_Wax>it works
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17:33<Man_of_Wax>and is also super fast
17:33<Man_of_Wax>wow
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18:30<ben__>nick/ banji
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18:30<banji>hello
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18:34<Fruidz>alguem
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18:41<mnuhmnuh>Hey yall. What's the right way to remove cups? I don't have a printer, nor access to one. thx.
18:42<mnuhmnuh>on stretch.
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18:42<PEB>apt-get purge cups should do most of the trick
18:42<PEB>apt-get autoremove --purge will remove any non-necessary dependency
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18:45<mnuhmnuh>bluesceada: "Screw you guys, I'm going home". Charming. :-)
18:46<mnuhmnuh>PEB: thanks. will try. all other times I tried, it wanted to gut the sytem.
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18:47<PEB>what do you mean by "gut the system"?
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18:52<mnuhmnuh>PEB: that didn't stop cups the service, nor did it mention lots of cups stuff:
18:52<mnuhmnuh>cups cups-bsd cups-client cups-common cups-core-drivers cups-daemon cups-ppdc cups-server-common libcups2 libcupscgi1 libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1
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18:54<PEB>I'm pretty sure the service is provided by the package, but, afaict, sometimes, it happens that the package when it is removed does not shut the service down nor remove it properly
18:54<PEB>you'll have to check and remove what's remaining
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19:00<mnuhmnuh>PEB: thanks. I'm further ahead than what I was. cups is a longstanding hate of mine. I preferred lpr. meh.
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19:16<K-202>http://www.makelinux.net/ldd3/chp-5-sect-5 one question about spinlocks and interrupts - when a driver locks a spinlock, then interrupt comes and wants to lock the same spinlock, does deadlock happen in case of only 1 CPU?
19:17<K-202>Earlier most computers had only 1 CPU so...
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19:23<mnuhmnuh>PEB: "gut the system" means drag everything else with it. delete cups? there goes your user interface.
19:23<PEB>which window manager do you use?
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19:25<mnuhmnuh>PEB: fluxbox, so it's less of a problem for me.
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20:50<twb>Can kmuto or judd tell me what kernel version & module I need to support a *USB* xxxx:yyyy?
20:50<twb>Specifically, this one: https://clbin.com/EFeLG
20:51<abrotman>kmuto is a person
20:51<twb>Sorry, I meant kmuto.jp's HCL
20:51<abrotman>used to be able to
20:51<twb>Yay, /me tries
20:51<abrotman>judd: usbid 1234:1234
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20:51<abrotman>caused a person to quit .. so that sort of worked>
20:51<abrotman>?
20:52<twb>http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=046d:c21c only for PCI not USB, I think
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21:45<hoffman>holaa
21:45<hoffman>tdo bien?
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21:58<oscarr>Hi, I have microphone with preamp built-in (powered from USB) and I had perfect sound quality until I changed motherboard. On new motherboard its horrible ... background noise, and when trying to say anything im getting glitches, or something like clashes. Even on low preamp volume. Have you any idea ?
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22:00<oscarr>Its strange but those problems seems to exist only when recording ... when I enable bypass to speakers sound is ok.
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22:01<oscarr>Im querying here because Im using debian and it may be problem related to sound settings (maybe new mobo needs some tweaking in config files)
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22:38<worralph>im trying to build a package for a python3 program using the guide on the wiki. I get the error dpkg-genchanges: error: binary build with no binary artifacts found; cannot distribute. Does anyone know what this means?
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22:42<somiaj>worralph: what guide? I don't recongize that error, I'd try google or #debian-metnods
22:42<somiaj>#debian-mentors
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22:43<worralph>its on the debian wiki https://wiki.debian.org/Python/Packaging
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22:44<worralph>i tried google but it seams it occurs when architecture is not set to all in control but in this case mine is set to all
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22:46<somiaj>I have little experience with this, I think #debian-mentors would be the place to ask.
22:46<worralph>thanks i posted there too
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23:47<k-man>what is the mechanism by which usb drives are auto mounted when you insert them?
23:47<k-man>for some reason my zfs partitions seem to appear in the file manager as /media/usb0 and /media/usb1
23:47<misterhat>udisks k-man
23:48<twb>udisks2 hopefully
23:48<twb>usb0 will be a fallback name because the filesystem has no label
23:48<twb>Try "udevadm info /dev/sdz1" or whatever it is.
23:49<twb>I don't know if ZFS filesystems can *have* a label; compare tune2fs -L for ext2/3/4
23:49<twb>(btrfs can have a label, although probably not per-subvol)
23:50<twb>https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ZFS#Create_a_storage_pool suggests ZFS filesystem labels might have issues on Linux
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23:53<k-man>twb, looks like its 1.0.5 in Jessie
23:53<k-man>err.. wait, i don't have it installed
23:54<k-man>oh yes i do, v2
23:54<k-man>sorry for the false alarm
23:55<twb>udisks exists in jessie but you shouldn't use it
23:56<twb>(http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html)
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