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00:19<k-man>phpmyadmin is giving me a warning "Connection for controluser as defined in your configuration failed." I'm a bit confused about which user the controluser is supposed to be
00:20<k-man>phpmyadmin's config.inc.php defines it as $dbuser. what is that any idea?
00:21<k-man>oh, its phpmyadmin
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00:30<k-man>ok, got it working
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01:53<ezio>salve a tutti
01:54<jm_>!it
01:54<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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02:14<benedict>Hi all; sorry to ask something I could check myself, but has there been a recent change to the default ntp.conf or init script (specifically in jessie) which mean it now drops to daemon:daemon rather than ntp:ntp?
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02:17<benedict>l
02:19<jm_>benedict: it runs as ntp here
02:19<jm_>if you mean ntpd that is
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02:21<benedict>I do mean ntpd; the trunk of the svn has RUNASUSER=ntp too. The version that got auto-installed this morning 4.2.6.p5+dfsg-7+deb8u1 I can't apt-get source
02:24<jm_>source packages for that are available on security mirrors, but it still runs as ntp here
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02:34<benedict>and both source and binary packages agree with RUNASUSER=ntp, so definately not a package issue. And no conffile changes reported by the dpkg log. Mayhaps I was going to change it for some reason or test, never restarted ntpd, and therefore never noticed I have already broken it
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02:36<jm_>are you on Linux?
02:36<jm_>(as opposed to fbsd)
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03:22<graamont>could someone help out with some knowledge about networking?....i had scan my network eth1 and it say that i have 4760 host connected?
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03:27<petn-randall>graamont: What tool did you use? Can you share the output? http://paste.debian.net
03:27<graamont>i was testing ettercap
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03:32<graamont>petn-randall, i am scanning host with ettercap
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03:42<graamont>petn-randall, how come there is so many people connected to my network? or am i understanding something wrong?
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04:04<petn-randall>graamont: Can you show us the output?
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04:20<graamont>petn-randall, i dont know how to send you the png...although http://paste.debian.net/319190/
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04:20<graamont>petn-randall, or is there other way i can request the same info over the cmd?
04:22<jm_>haha you could use uuencode if it's not too big or picpaste
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04:22<graamont>jm i will try anyways here is the most important Randomizing 8191 hosts for scanning...
04:22<graamont>Scanning the whole netmask for 8191 hosts...
04:22<graamont>4605 hosts added to the hosts list...
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04:23<duclicsic>graamont: what are you trying to do? ettercap is a pretty complex tool, you are almost certainly misunderstanding what it's telling you.
04:24<graamont>duclicsic, you maybe right although i am just cant understand why my network has so many ips connected to it
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04:25<duclicsic>that doesn't even make sense
04:25<benedict>jm_: yep, linux. But I'm currently chalking it up to user (my) error. Thanks for the help&time.
04:25<graamont>duclicsic, i just did a host scan to eth1 and i says that has 4605 host
04:26<jm_>benedict: no worries
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04:27<duclicsic>graamont: describe your network
04:27<duclicsic>the host scan done by ettercap just sends an arp request to every possible host in your subnet
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04:28<duclicsic>for there to be 4605 hosts responding you must be doing something very odd indeed
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04:28<duclicsic>these are not "IPs connected to your network"
04:29<graamont>duclicsic, i have like like four computers physically connected to my router but i run my own wireless server from mine
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04:29<duclicsic>graamont: what IP range is used on your LAN?
04:29<graamont>duclicsic, that i dont know
04:30<duclicsic>if you don't even know what IP range your LAN is using, I would steer very clear of ettercap for now
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04:30<duclicsic>it's an advanced too for doing things like MITM attacks using arp poisoning etc
04:30<duclicsic>tool*
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04:30<graamont>duclicsic, i set a wifi for the phones in the house in my own computer as a server
04:31<graamont>duclicsic, that i know
04:31<graamont>but i am trying to understand about network security
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04:32<duclicsic>graamont: i suggest you get reading about some networking fundamentals first
04:33<petn-randall>graamont: "Scanning the whole netmask for 8191 hosts..." only means that your subnet *could* harbour so many hosts. It doesn't mean they're on the subnet.
04:34<duclicsic>petn-randall: "4605 hosts added to the hosts list" is a little weird though
04:34<petn-randall>graamont: Looks like you have a /19 subnet for some reason, since it can harbour exactly 8191 hosts.
04:34<graamont>duclicsic, thanks...but anyhow dont you thing is strange to have so many ips in the eth1?...in all the tutorial i seen in youtube never have that kind of things
04:34<duclicsic>graamont: yes that is weird
04:34<duclicsic>but that would suggest there are over 4000 computers either physically or wirelessly connected to your lan
04:35<duclicsic>which i'm going to say is probably impossible
04:35<duclicsic>i suspect you've got some fundamental error in your network setup that is causing this
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04:36<graamont>duclicsic, do you think could be that just the internet company it just set it up that way so the can take advantage of the hardware?
04:36<duclicsic>no
04:36<duclicsic>this has nothing to do with your internet connection
04:36<graamont>duclicsic, ok then
04:36<petn-randall>Again, actual output of ettercap would help.
04:36<petn-randall>!paste
04:36<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
04:37<duclicsic>sure, but i wouldn't bother with ettercap
04:37<duclicsic>just type "ip addr" into your terminal and paste us the output
04:37<graamont>duclicsic, ettercap was just who make me wonder why that scan result
04:38<duclicsic>as i say, you are not understanding what that scan means
04:38<duclicsic>what exactly are you trying to do?
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04:38<duclicsic>is something broken or not working?
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04:40<graamont>73 : eth1
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04:41<graamont>i dont understan why there is a t then eth0 then jump from 2 to 4 with wlan0 and the jumps to 73 eth1
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04:42<duclicsic>graamont: i can't decipher what you're trying to say
04:43<duclicsic>if you have a question about your network setup, ask it and provide supporting output via a pastebin type site. the output of "ip addr", "ip route", "iptables-save", etc
04:43<graamont>duclicsic, i am just trying to understand network security issues beside seen if i can sniff on my girlfriends mobil phone...lol
04:44<duclicsic>ok, you are not going to understand network security issues until you understand networking
04:44<duclicsic>being able to tell me what the IP address and subnet mask of a computer would be a good start there
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04:46<graamont>duclicsic, how about i give you my girlfriends phone number? lol
04:47<duclicsic>i don't want it, though i'd be tempted to tell her you're trying to snoop on her
04:47<graamont>lol
04:48<duclicsic>so that's why you've leapt straight for ettercap?
04:49<graamont>i do want to understand about wireless comunication and the vulnerabilities
04:50<duclicsic>well there is plenty of information about that online, this is the debian linux support channel
04:50<duclicsic>unless you have a question relating to debian, we're not going to be of much use
04:51<graamont>i know ones an unit is connectet to the network you can really take control on it but i was curious about tunneling a remote router
04:51<graamont>and so on
04:52<graamont>i know...that why i was just asking about when i scan the network throw me those numbers
04:52<duclicsic>because your network is broken
04:52<duclicsic>most likely..
04:52<graamont>what do you mean?
04:53<duclicsic>but since you've not even provided a single piece of requested information, we're not going to be able to help
04:53<duclicsic>such as the output of the command "ip addr"
04:54<duclicsic>well.. the fact that you appear to be using a /19 on your lan suggests to me that the configuration process was akin to letting an infinite number of monkeys do it until something happened to kinda work
04:54<graamont>thats sensitive information
04:54<duclicsic>by all means redact the first octet of the IP addresses, or whatever makes you comfortable
04:54<duclicsic>it's not really that sensitive though
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04:56<graamont>octet?
04:56<petn-randall>(it's not sensitive if it's a private network range)
04:56<duclicsic>graamont: an IP address is made up of 4 "octets" when presented in the way we are used to them
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04:57<duclicsic>graamont: seriously though, if you're not willing to supply the information we request, we're not going to be able to answer your questions
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04:58<duclicsic>and before we go any further I can't stress more how much you'd benefit from actually doing some reading about basic IP networking concepts
04:58<graamont>duclicsic, i do appreciate your help
04:59<graamont>petn-randall, from you too thanks
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05:01<graamont>i feel more confortable if i do check my own parameter if you tell me what commands i have to put in the terminal
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05:02<simon_>"my car doesn't work mr. mechanic, but i won't let you look at it let alone take a picture of the engine, tell me what to check for though."
05:04<graamont>simon_, hahahaha...i want to check it myself...and i do appreciate suggestions...thats all i am trying to say
05:04<graamont>or direction if i may say
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05:07<duclicsic>ok, graamont. look at the output of "ip addr" and tell me how many physical interfaces your machine has, and what the subnet mask is on each interface
05:08<duclicsic>do you know what a subnet mask is and how to identify one?
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05:10<graamont>duclicsic, the subnet is a brd?
05:10<duclicsic>lol. we're going to get nowhere like this.
05:11<graamont>lol sorry man
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05:12<duclicsic>nobody here is going to teach you the fundamentals of IP networking to sufficient a level for you to diagnose this yourself without providing us any information
05:12<graamont>there is only one physical interface which is eth1
05:12<duclicsic>no eth0?
05:12<graamont>it says no carrier
05:12<duclicsic>but it exists... ?
05:13<graamont>and when i sniff it does not give me anything
05:13<graamont>yes it show in the ip addr
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05:13<graamont>it says down
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05:16<graamont>duclicsic, DOWN group default qlen 1000
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05:17<graamont>duclicsic, eth0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN group default qlen 1000
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05:18<duclicsic>you're now telling me everything about the one interface that clearly isn't connected to anything
05:18<graamont>right...you ask me about it
05:18<duclicsic>do the same for eth1 and again, we may be able to assist you
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05:19<graamont>duclicsic, 73: eth1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
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05:19<duclicsic>hang on.. 73? you have 73+ interfaces??
05:19<graamont>thats what i was saying before
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05:20<graamont>it when 1 then 2 then jumps to 4 and then jumps to 73
05:20<graamont>went
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05:21<graamont>do you understand what i meant?
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05:28<graamont>duclicsic, i have yo go...i hope see you some other time and maybe you feel like helping me...later...thanks and take care
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05:35<umlaeute>ist this channel logged somewhere (to some public place)?
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05:48<Wickedm1ke>umlaeute, See topic
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06:25<root>hi
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06:25<root>你们好
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06:27<dpkg>如果您想要以中文得到 Debian 相關的協助,請加入 irc.debian.org 或 irc.oftc.net 上的 #dot 頻道,連線與加入頻道的方法請參閱 IRC 程式之相關說明,或於網路上搜尋。謝謝您的合作!
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06:29<dpkg>如果您想要以中文得到 Debian 相關的協助,請加入 irc.debian.org 或 irc.oftc.net 上的 #dot 頻道,連線與加入頻道的方法請參閱 IRC 程式之相關說明,或於網路上搜尋。謝謝您的合作!
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06:36<umlaeute>Wickedm1ke: wow; dpkg *is* powerfull
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07:37<zathras>the following line in /etc/crontab no longer works in Jessie due to polkit-1 : service bla >/dev/nul 2>&1 || systemctl restart bla.service
07:37<zathras>how can I fix this please?
07:38<jm_>and it doesn't give you an actual error?
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07:39<zathras>afaik no it does not, but it is a known issue on systemd based systems. However I failed to find a solution yet
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07:40<jm_>journalctl -u bla.service also doesn't say anything?
07:40<zathras>I assume I have to allow/define somehow cron to do this. It seems it is related to being on a (remote) shell or not (an active user session)
07:42<zathras>the journalctl gives the usual info. I have not tested this when it breaks
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07:42<jm_>i would expect that systemctl would give an error and cron would log it to you
07:43<jm_>mail it to you that is
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07:44<zathras>I see nothing in syslog
07:45<jm_>no not in logs, cron sends it by mail
07:46<zathras>I did not get it. But to be honest, I never get mail from cron so that might be a config issue
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07:49<jm_>maybe try to fix that to get more clues (if you get that at all)
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07:49<carlo>buon giorno
07:50<carlo>!list
07:50<dpkg>carlo: vedi http://packages.debian.org/
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07:51<zathras>there was no MAILTO defined in /etc/crontab so I added it. Time will tell I suppose
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08:12<zathras>jm_, my problem is probably related to http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=34355 (generic polkit issue)
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08:15<jm_>zathras: hmm but doesn't that file say that root is allowed to do it?
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08:22<zathras>jm_ how so?
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08:47<leandro>hello!!!
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08:47<petn-randall>hi leandro
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08:47<leandro>can anybody help me with Debian;?
08:47<petn-randall>!ask
08:47<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
08:48<leandro>terrific!
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08:51<leandro>I'd like to use my debian Jessie 8.2
08:51<leandro>with a second screen
08:51<leandro>extended
08:52<leandro>there is this possibity?
08:52<blast007>Sure. Does your computer have multiple video outputs?
08:52<leandro>yes, I use a notebook
08:53<leandro>with VGA and HDMI
08:53<miguelnegrao>Hi, I'm running debian testing. It seems by default it uses wayland as I see in htop 'gnome-shell --mode=gdm --wayland --display-server'. How can I disable wayland.
08:53<miguelnegrao>?
08:53<miguelnegrao>Gnome has been extremely slow, and I suspect it is due to wayland.
08:53<blast007>miguelnegrao: testing/unstable support is in #debian-next
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08:54<miguelnegrao>blast007: thanks, will jump there.
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08:57<blast007>leandro: have you tried attaching a second screen?
08:57<blast007>..
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08:59<blast007>leandro: have you tried attaching a second screen? There is a "Displays" control panel in Gnome, and you can configure the screens there.
09:00<leandro>well, only when I turn on the computer a second screen works on.... but duplicated
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09:02<blast007>leandro: if you go into the Displays panel, you can click on one screen and make it the "primary", and then click Apply.
09:03<leandro>I think this option doesn't exist because I using XFCE
09:03<leandro>But I will try in Gnome
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09:05<leandro>thanks blast007!
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09:08<petn-randall>leandro: There's a similar config in XFCE, just use that.
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09:13<oscarr>hi, did someon meet situation where if graphic card is inserted to pcie, pci slots are not working? I have that situation. I bought PCI sound card because of problems with internal sound, and when i remove my graphic card ... lspci is showing soundblaster audigy, and aplay/arecord works, but when Im inserting back graphics card - lspci is not showing soundblester at all.
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09:22<magmax>i unknow how register nick
09:22<magmax>oscarr speak spanish
09:22<oscarr>why ?
09:23<magmax>you spanish name -> oscar
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09:23<magmax>you have spanish name -> oscar
09:23<magmax>with 2 r
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09:23<magmax>how register nick
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09:24<magmax>go away
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09:24<magmax>i'm away
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09:33<enelos>Hi! I have a simple question. I don't know what this button do : http://imgur.com/l8yxfXC . Can you help me?
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09:37<Zathras>enelos, context?
09:37<Zathras>(I do not know the answer and wonder how it is Debian related)
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09:41<enelos>Zathras: it's in the menu on the top right corner
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09:41<Zathras>the top right corner of what? I assume a Window Manager or application
09:41<enelos>yes sry in the window manager
09:41<enelos>i'm on gnome 3
09:42<Zathras>ah. That helps
09:42<bamby59>ciao
09:42<Maulkin>enelos: That locks or unlocks the screen orientation
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09:43<Maulkin>See http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/206479/what-is-the-icon-between-settings-and-lock-screen-in-gnome3
09:43<enelos>Maulkin: owww
09:43<enelos>alright
09:43<enelos>thanks :)
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09:56<peter1138>hmm, can i remove gnome 3's brightness slider?
09:57<peter1138>(on that same menu)
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09:57<Maulkin>possibly an extension for that on extensions.gnome.org?
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10:00<peter1138>Couldn't see one.
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10:18<yellamty>ya quelqu'un?
10:18<yellamty>POurqui y a personne
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10:18<yellamty>Je suis tout seul
10:18<yellamty>c'est la crise
10:18<yellamty>omikmec
10:18<somiaj>!fr
10:18<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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10:18<yellamty>i don't want help
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10:19<syesil>wsh
10:19<yellamty>somiaj t ki?
10:19<yellamty>nique ta race le turc
10:19<syesil>wsh
10:19<syesil>tu veux quoi aladin
10:19<somiaj>yellamty: this is a debian support channel. You may want other channels if you are looking for solcial converastion.
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10:19<syesil>ahué on doit se casser enfait
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10:22<AngryLama>Salut
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10:22<yellamty_>yo
10:22<AngryLama>Coucou
10:23<yellamty_>yo
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10:23<yellamty> t'es ou le turc?
10:23<syesil>wsh
10:23<binar>!fr
10:23<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
10:23<yellamty>VA violer un Lama
10:23-!-mode/#debian [+o somiaj] by ChanServ
10:23<yellamty>dpkg on veut pas de toi
10:23<dpkg>yellamty: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
10:23<AngryLama>Pourquoi ?
10:24<yellamty>quoi?
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11:15<torouter>whats the easiest way to get my desktop cube going in Jessie? (compiz?)
11:16<mtn>torouter: or kde
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11:27<torouter>I like gnome 2 or Mate. does kde do the cube? I never tried...
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11:28<mtn>torouter: yes, kde has the compiz features by default. otherwise use compiz, not sure it will work with gnome
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11:35<torouter>ok, I'm looking into it
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12:03<ubuntu>all right , it installed!
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12:04<Guest7437>but i am back on cinnamon as i dont know how to work xchat on xfce
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12:04<Guest7437>cinnamon is too good, it has everything i need in the menu bar
12:04<mtn>Guest7437: xchat works the same on any de
12:05<Guest7437>but i dont know only what xchat is
12:05<mtn>Guest7437: if you don't know what it is , how do you use it on cinnamon?
12:05<Guest7437>it was there in the menu bar of cinnamon
12:05<Guest7437>i clicked on it
12:06<mtn>Guest7437: oh dear. doesn't xfce have a menu?
12:06<Guest7437>and i dropped here, thats all i know
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12:06<Guest7437>it has menu like in mac
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12:06<Guest7437>cinnamon has it like in windows
12:07<mtn>Guest7437: and if it was not installed when you were using xfce, you would use package manager and install it. then it would be in the menu.
12:07<mtn>Guest7437: luckily you can use whatever works best for you
12:07<Guest7437>i think i am gonna stay with cinnamon as it has everything the way i want it by default
12:08<Guest7437>xfce looks good but will need lots of customisation
12:08<blast007>Guest7437: if you're using Ubuntu, you should ask them for help
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12:08<Guest7437>i just wanted to get rid of unity as it hung a lot
12:09<blast007>!ubuntu
12:09<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
12:09*mtn got fooled again
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12:09<Guest7437>i am on usb which has read rate of 30mbps
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12:10<Guest7437>browsing on chrome also gets tiresome after a while, most of time it is 'waiting for cache...'
12:11<blast007>Guest7437: Read what dpkg said. This channel is not for Ubuntu support.
12:11<Guest7437>then o.O
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12:12<Guest7437>i was supposed to type /topics or something to get group topic
12:12<mtn>reading is hard
12:12<blast007>Guest7437: you need to /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu
12:13<Guest7437>i am so sorry
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12:14<blast007>would be nice if distributions altered their default IRC channel settings :)
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12:15<mtn>indeed
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12:23<blawiz>anyone else experienceing worse scanning quality with sane/genesys backend, after upgrading to jessie? (using canon lide 210)
12:24<blast007>have you tried it again with Wheezy to make sure the hardware isn't just degrading?
12:25<blawiz>dont have wheezy anymore, but i think thats unlikely blast007
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12:56<Gamer1204>Hello, is this the right channel to ask a wifi driver related question?
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12:58<blawiz>just make it debian related somehow ;P
13:00<Gamer1204>hehe, gotcha. I have got a usb wifi stick I want to use with debian stable. It is a 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp. I tried installing "firmware-rralink" but that doesn't support this wifi stick. Can anyone help me with this?
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13:02<piper>firmware-ralink
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13:02<mtn>Gamer1204: https://wiki.debian.org/rt2800usb may help, too
13:02<Gamer1204>I tried that piper
13:03<Gamer1204>will take a look at that
13:03<Gamer1204>my device is not in the supported list @mtn
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13:03<mtn>Gamer1204: might be close enough to help, though. some are very close
13:04<piper>Gamer1204: ok, perhaps you misspelled it here, i seen "firmware-rralink"
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13:04<Gamer1204>yeah sorry, I did type it correctly in my terminal though ;)
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13:06<Gamer1204>the "firmware-ralink" doesn't work.
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13:08<mtn>Gamer1204: there is a newer version in backports
13:08<Gamer1204>ahhh, and how do I access that?
13:08<mtn>!backports
13:08<dpkg>A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>.
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13:09<mtn>Gamer1204: might need a newer kernel, from backports, too
13:10<Gamer1204>I can live with that
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13:13<Gamer1204>I could also update to unstable, and check with that
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13:15<mtn>Gamer1204: probably not a good idea
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13:16<Gamer1204>I run it on another device too, I just thought I would use stable if it fitted my needs ;)
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13:29<canaima>hola
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13:30<crismary>hola como esta
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13:33<crismary>aaaaa
13:34<Maulkin>!es-social
13:34<dpkg>Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi.
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13:43<Guest7432>I have got installed the addition and configured the shared folder even if I saw a message that told me the invited addition have not been istalled yet but I do not see the shared folder.
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13:53<Guest7432>There were a fail at building the main virtualbox module.
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13:55<Guest7432>http://paste.debian.net/319321/
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13:57<retrospectacus>looks perfect. Did you reboot after that?
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14:02<Guest7432>Yes on the guest machine.
14:02<Guest7432>Les Additions Invités VirtualBox semblent ne pas être actives sur cette machine virtuelle. De ce fait les dossiers partagés ne peuvent pas être utilisés. Pour utiliser les dossiers partagés dans cette machine virtuelle, installez les Additions Invités, ou bien réinstallez-les si elles ne fonctionnent pas correctement en choisissant Installer les Additions Invités... dans le menu Périphériques. Si elles sont installés et l
14:02<Guest7432>a machine est encore en cours de démarrage, les dossiers partagés seront disponibles une fois la machine démarrée.
14:03<Guest7432>retrospectacus
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14:05<towo`>Guest7432, let make me sure, you have installed the guest-additions in your guest, which is debian?
14:06<Guest7432>wheezy
14:06<Guest7432>towo`
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14:06<towo`>Guest7432, wheezy what?
14:07<towo`>Guest7432, your log shows kernel 3.16, this is not a wheezy kernel
14:08<Guest7432>I may have got installed a bad kernel.
14:08<Guest7432>towo`
14:09<towo`>Guest7432, can you precise answer my questions?
14:10<Guest7432>It is wheezy 7.9
14:10<towo`>Guest7432, your log shows zero error, so wha'ts your problem exact?
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14:12<Guest7432>I have got Yes on the guest machine.
14:12<Guest7432><Guest7432> Les Additions Invités VirtualBox semblent ne pas être actives sur cette machine virtuelle. De ce fait les dossiers partagés ne peuvent pas être utilisés. Pour utiliser les dossiers partagés dans cette machine virtuelle, installez les Additions Invités, ou bien réinstallez-les si elles ne fonctionnent pas correctement en choisissant Installer les Additions Invités... dans le menu Périphériques. Si elles sont ins
14:12<Guest7432>tallés et l
14:12<Guest7432><Guest7432> a machine est encore en cours de démarrage, les dossiers partagés seront disponibles une fois la machine démarrée.
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14:13<Guest7432>every time when I click in drive and shared folders.
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14:15<Flyer>what is your problem Guest7432
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14:16<Guest7432>I do not see the folder in the guest machine.
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14:16<retrospectacus>are you sure virtualbox-guest-utils is installed
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14:16<blast007>specifically inside the VM, not the host
14:17<Guest7432>I am restarting the vm and I will verify it.
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14:20<Guest7432>I do apt-get install virtualbox-guest-utils ?
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14:20<retrospectacus>sure
14:20<dsprc>_inside_ of the VM, yes
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14:21<retrospectacus>please note, this was the *very* first thing asked of you, but ignored.
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14:23<blast007>might also be worth running the following commands from inside the VM and giving us the output, so we know what we're working with: uname -r and lsb_release -r
14:23<Guest7432>Yes it wasalready installed.
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14:24<Guest7432>3.2.0-4-486
14:24<Guest7432>and no lsb modules are available.
14:24<Guest7432>blast007 what is the error?
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14:25<dsprc>Guest7432: use the '-r' switch...
14:26<Guest7432>7.9
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14:27<Guest7432>dsprc
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14:28<Guest7432>?
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14:31<Guest7432>blast007 what do you understand?
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14:35<Guest7432>Evcerybody what do you understdand and what conclusions do you take?
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14:37<Guest7432>dsprc?
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14:38<blast007>I do not know what "dsprc" is supposed to refer to.
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14:43<Guest7432>blast007 it is the name of a person.
14:43<blast007>ah
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14:43<blast007>Guest7432: in any case, I still think you should look into using NFS or Samba
14:43<Guest7432>blast007 can go
14:45<Guest7432>I have got a error I did not tell you before. Please let me install another vm and try again.
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15:10<magmax>#linux_ayuda, se da soporte para sco, freebsd, debian y fedora
15:10<magmax>estoy away
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15:39<MTeck>Is there any list of default installed Debian packages when you select just the minimum package set? I apparently removed one that I could really use.
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15:41<blast007>minimum meaning what? just the "standard" task from tasksel?
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15:42<MTeck>When you don't select standard either
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15:44<Marillion>MTeck: similar what debootstrap to concern
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15:47<somiaj>MTeck: packages have different priorities, and for the most part the 'standard task' is all packages of prioirty standard or higher. Beyond that there is no set list. A minimial install is most of the 'standard packages', and the ones you get depend on if you use an installer (maybe which installer) or deboostrap directly.
15:48<somiaj>MTeck: the easiest way is to just install the standard task or install all packages priority standard or higher with aptitude.
15:48<MTeck>aight, I'll see what tasksel wants me to do. Thanks
15:49<somiaj>!standard
15:49<dpkg>methinks standard task is a "task" that should be installed on all machines during the installer stage. It installs packages that are important, required and standard (i.e. "aptitude install ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant"). Packages in the <essential> set are always installed. Also ask me about <tasksel>.
15:49<somiaj>MTeck: that aptitude command listed there will install them for you
15:49<lindi->also note that the the installer installs fewer packages if you install without internet connection, this has surprised me more than one
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15:49<lindi->s/one/once/
15:50<somiaj>lindi-: I think it also depends on what additional installer items that you load as well. In general the 'minimial install' isn't well defined. But the standard task is.
15:50<lindi->somiaj: yeah I was mostly refering to what you get when you just hit ENTER to all prompts
15:53<Marillion>lindi-: you get the debootstarp like (similar)
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15:54<Marillion>s/debootstarp/debootstrap
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15:57<lindi->Marillion: by just hitting ENTER? I think you get a lot more than what debootstrap installs
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15:59<Marillion>lindi-: right, because ssh task and standard task are enabled, but what i mean is, if you deselect of them :)
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16:04<MTeck>somiaj: Thanks!! :D
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16:17<Blabla>any help here?
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16:18<Blabla>any one from microsoft?
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16:21<towo`>Blabla, you have read the channel-name?
16:22<Blabla>no why?
16:22<Marillion>towo`: don't feed the troll
16:22<towo`>ok
16:23<Blabla>who
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16:24<Blabla>any one from microsoft?
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17:20<zhanshan>hi any help with jack?
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17:22<Tonto2>I'm new to Debian and wanting to set up a local repository on my work drive. I have a problem with no output from dpkg-scanpackages. Can anyone assist?
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17:23<blast007>zhanshan: ask your real question about jack and we'll see if we can assist
17:24<blast007>Tonto2: what have you done thus far and what exact command line is giving you no output?
17:24<Tonto2>I've posted details at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=125555
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17:24<Tonto2>Basically, dplg-scanpackages seems to be reading the .deb's but not parsing them
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17:25<Tonto2>I've used both 'dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null > Packages' and the same with no output redirection. Zero-length file or no output to screen
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17:28<zhanshan>blast007: I use cadence 0.8.1 and I don't manage to get a proper playback sound. playing videos i.e. with mpv player or vlc produces always similar periodical crackling sounds...
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17:44<asdfghj>!help
17:45<retrospectacus>!ask
17:45<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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17:49<Tonto2>dpkg: not sure if this is addressed to me. I'm using 8.2 and have posted details at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=125555
17:49<dpkg>Tonto2: okay
17:49<abrotman>ugh
17:49<abrotman>dpkg: forget not sure if this
17:49<dpkg>i forgot not sure if this, abrotman
17:50<abrotman>Tonto2: dpkg is a bot
17:50<Tonto2>Ah, thx, thought as much
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17:59<Guest7468> n kj kj kj kjkj
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18:29<PovAddict>debsnap looks super handy
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18:30<PovAddict>but I see a few issues...
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18:30<PovAddict>can't tell it to list what versions are available without downloading them, no download progress, --binary downloads all archs by default (I expected current arch, manpage doesn't clarify)
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18:48<Krypter>Welcome to IRC
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19:00<aaab>/quit
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19:02<aaab>when i try and use 2 moitors with my laptop it crashes, the screen is blank and i cannot switch to another tty. the command i am using is: xrandr --output LVDS-1 --auto --left-of VGA-1 --auto
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19:03<Tonto2>I'm new to Debian and wanting to set up a local repository on my work drive. I have a problem with no output from dpkg-scanpackages. I've posted details at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=125555 Can anyone assist?
19:04<abrotman>local repository for what?
19:04<Tonto2>For .deb packages instead of using online repos
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19:06<Tonto2>As per http://www.unixmen.com/setup-local-apt-repository-using-installation-media-in-debian-8/ and others
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19:10<world>help fr
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19:11<Strilo4ka>who uses debian on virtualbox!
19:11<blast007>Strilo4ka: lots of people
19:11<Strilo4ka>Great system!
19:11<Strilo4ka>)))
19:11<world>wo uses kali linux fr
19:11<blast007>!kali
19:11<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
19:11<Strilo4ka>i know)
19:11<Strilo4ka>last fron debian now
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19:11<Strilo4ka>*from
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19:13<Strilo4ka>thanks all for that system as debian i am very glad) 1 time settup and enjoy
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19:13<v131ack>yo
19:13<world>ok thank you
19:14<v131ack>whats this about
19:14<v131ack>yo
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19:14<blast007>v131ack: this is the Debian support channel.
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19:39<aaab>how do i use linux 4.3 with debian testing?
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19:47<retrospectacus>aaab: it's in experimental, try it
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20:07<aaab>retrospectacus: how do i do that?
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20:09<retrospectacus>add experimental to your sources, then "apt-get -t experimental install linux-image-whatever"
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20:10<retrospectacus>it's not a very good idea, likely to break things if it does even work.
20:10<retrospectacus>aaab: please go to the testing/unstable channel #debian-next if you need additional support
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20:12<aaab>ok, thank you
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21:02<drewv>libtcmalloc-minimal4:amd64 and libtcmalloc-minimal4:i386 conflict because they install identically named files in /usr/lib. Why doesn't the :i386 version install into /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu like so many other :i386 libraries?
21:03<drewv>Is this a bug?
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21:03<abrotman>did you check the BTS?
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21:05<drewv>Yeah. It says there's no bugs reported. I'm trying to determine whether I should report that as a bug.
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21:07<abrotman>did you check the source package bugs?
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21:09<drewv>Yeah, none there either.
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21:20<polygon99>I need help uninstalling glx-diversions, it won't uninstall and results in an error when done so.
21:21<polygon99>And I can't seem to fix this broken package.
21:21<drewv>polygon99: what is the error you receive when you try to uninstall it?
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21:22<polygon99>(Reading database ... 224852 files and directories currently installed.)
21:22<polygon99>Removing glx-diversions (0.5.1) ...
21:22<polygon99>No diversion 'diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2.0 to /usr/lib/mesa-diverted/libGL.so.1.2.0 by glx-diversions', none removed.
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21:59<HyperRize>Does anyone know the major differences in using Simple-CDD or Live-Build?
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22:09<primit1v3>greetings all
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22:12<somiaj>HyperRize: I am not familar with simple-CDD, but it apears the major difference is one creates an installer and the other creates a live image. A live image is different than a debian installer (which doesn't give you a full live enviorment, but a small limited envorment to make an install)
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22:15<HyperRize>somiaj: Ah okay makes more since with what i was reading. Thank you :D
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22:18<HyperRize>Lastly does anyone have any tutorial recommendations on making a personal repository i can pull from?
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22:22<somiaj>HyperRize: do you want a personal repo or just a cache of the repos?
22:22<somiaj>HyperRize: apt-cacher might be all you need
22:22<HyperRize>personal that i can host
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22:23<HyperRize>on a remote server
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