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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-11-04

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02:03<SirCrunkleton>I can get sound to play from my TV/monitor but not from the line out on my sound card
02:04<jm_>it's possible HDMI is the default sound card used, try using speaker-test -D (lower the volume first)
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02:05<SirCrunkleton>if I do speaker-test I get white noise from the HDMI monitor
02:06<jm_>yeah do what the man page says, aplay -L and then use speaker-test with all the listed devices
02:09<SirCrunkleton>thanks, I have like 20 devices though. going to go through them all
02:11<jm_>yeah some are probably related to the same sound card (i.e. front vs read vs center output etc.)
02:11<jm_>look at the second line in the output (for me it says HDMI vs PCH)
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02:13<SirCrunkleton>hmm
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02:13<jm_>to be exact second line for each listed device
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02:25<SirCrunkleton>ok this is getting annoying
02:25<SirCrunkleton>I can output to HDMI just fine but the headphone jack doesn't exist apparently
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02:26<jm_>sometimes there's a toggle to enable that, should be visible in the mixer
02:28<jm_>and also ensure it's not muted
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03:25<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>Allooha
03:25<cookieburra>sup
03:26<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>Who use Debian/HURD??
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03:27<jm_>try #debian-hurd
03:27<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>Ok
03:27<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>okey
03:28<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>Who use KDE?
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03:31<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>ye. #debian-hurd its true chanel) Thanks
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03:36<damian>Witam, reprezentuję instytucję, która pośredniczy w funduszach UE i w związku z tym, mam pytanie, ponieważ nasz beneficjent miał zakupić Debiana, natomiast twierdzi, iż istnieje wersja licencjonowana/komercyjna Debiana, Proszę o informację czy jest to prawdą czy też nie
03:37<cookieburra>Z tego co wiem, Debian jako instytucja nie oferuje płatnych licencji/wsparcia technicznego
03:37<berto>!pl
03:37<dpkg>Na kanale #debian rozmawiamy po angielsku; jesli chcesz lub wolisz mowic po polsku, wejdz na kanal #debian-pl na irc.freenode.net (Polish speakers please go to #debian-pl on irc.freenode.net). pl is also <perl>.
03:37<cookieburra>ok
03:38<cookieburra>sorry for that !
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03:39<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>Don't use transleat
03:39<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>Im russian but im write in English
03:39<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>Pleas
03:39<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>e
03:40<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>My eyes fucked by dpkg, damian and cookieburra
03:41<cookieburra>I said sorry :P
03:41<Hydroxide>BakaSec[InvaidersSec]: the words you just saw were requesting the same thing you did.
03:41-!-edog_ is now known as edog
03:42<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>ou
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03:42<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>soor
03:42<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>sorry
03:42<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>for bad words)
03:42<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>Admins0
03:42<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>sorry
03:42<jm_>!tell BakaSec[InvaidersSec] -about enter
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03:42<Hydroxide>thanks, no worries.
03:42<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>ok(
03:42<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>)
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03:43<askuyue>who knows the GNU Hurd?
03:43<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>Im
03:43<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>Im use Debian/HURD
03:43<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>+KDE
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03:44<askuyue>what's different between Hurd and Linux?
03:45<Fenhl>hello, I just installed a new systemd service file for the uWSGI emperor (http://uwsgi-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/Systemd.html#adding-the-emperor-to-systemd) and now most systemctl commands say “Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unknown error -1”
03:45<cookieburra>microkernel vs monolithic
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03:45<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>same comands in terminal, in linux more programs
03:46<cookieburra>askuyue: linux has all of it's functionality built in (except some modules, nvm)
03:46<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>yep
03:46<cookieburra>hence it's a monolith
03:46<cookieburra>hurd is much smaller, only communicates with a bunch of servers that handle stuff
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03:46<cookieburra>which in Linux is done by the kernel itself
03:46<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>HURD not ready for desktop
03:46<cookieburra>so instead of kernel being able to use filesystems
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03:47<cookieburra>it has a server which handles fs'es
03:47<askuyue>Yes
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03:47<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>HURD like RedHat+KED2 for desktop :))
03:48<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>But i like oldschool
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03:48<askuyue>RedHat+KDE2?
03:48<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>hah) its joke
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03:49<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>HURD so crudefor users
03:49<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>But normal for geek
03:49<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>geeks
03:49<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>of course
03:50<askuyue>I want to "reseach" the GNU Hurd, but i don't know what to start?
03:50<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>im use nokia n900 on KDE2, its so stupid by the look. But i like KDE and old
03:50<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>hm..
03:50<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>go to github
03:50<askuyue>and
03:50<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>stop
03:50<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>dont go to git
03:50<askuyue>e?
03:51<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>go to gnu.org and search hurd on website
03:51<askuyue>got it
03:52<jm_>or try this instead https://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install
03:52<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>you wanna install Debian/HURD?
03:52<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>if its true go to debian.org/.......
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03:52<askuyue>yes
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03:53<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>https://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install
03:53<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>true
03:53<cookieburra>obviously, try it in a VM
03:53<askuyue>Only try it,then i know what is good.
03:53<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>in first installation
03:53<askuyue>ok
03:53<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>use VN
03:53<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>VM
03:53<askuyue>Thanks very much.
03:53<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>ok
03:55<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>i install from source code(like gentoo). If i see this guide before now i dont have red eyes)))
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04:08<cookieburra>hey, selinux-profiles have been removed from stable for Jessie
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04:13<cookieburra>is there a chance it will be brought back once the team fixes the bugs, or is it gone for good till Debian 9?
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04:18<themill>cookieburra: has there ever been a package with that name?
04:19<cookieburra>themill:it was called selinux-policy if I recall correctly
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04:20<themill>nope (details matter)
04:20<themill>,i selinux-policy-default
04:20<judd>No package named 'selinux-policy-default' was found in jessie/amd64.
04:22<jm_>maybe this is related https://packages.qa.debian.org/r/refpolicy/news/20141221T163914Z.html
04:23<themill>yes
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04:23<themill>It looks like the maintainer's own repo is needed https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=756729#92
04:23<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/756729 in selinux-policy-default (open): «selinux-policy-default: Setting SELinux to enforce results in not configured network interface at boot time»; severity: serious; opened: 2014-08-01; last modified: 2015-09-15.
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04:24<jm_>yeah that's one of the bugs mentioned on the removal page
04:24<cookieburra>the missed the freeze before 8's release
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04:25<cookieburra>does that mean this package will not return for the lifetime of Jessie, even if (potentially) the bugs are squashed?
04:25<themill>correct
04:25<jm_>you could try backporting it yourself
04:25<themill>I vaguely remember the maintainer thought he'd upload it jessie-backports when it was ready
04:26<cookieburra>good to hear
04:27<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>Оу Тут и на Русском можно писать
04:27<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>Я думал кириллицу не как
04:27<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>Okey
04:27<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>Go in english
04:28<cookieburra>who?
04:28<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>noo
04:28<BakaSec[InvaidersSec]>I tested
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04:29<cookieburra>cool
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04:39<damian>I represent the intermediate body concerning the EU grants. Our beneficiary claims that he has bought the commercial version of debian.
04:39<damian>Please give me the information if debian is available as a commercial product.
04:39<damian>If the above information is incorrect, I will need the official information from you to avoid the potential attempt to swindle money or any other illegal operation from our beneficiary.
04:40<themill>You can purchase debian CDs from vendors and there are consultants who will provide debian installation, on-going admin and long-term security support
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04:41<Hydroxide>damian: to avoid any confusion in themill's reply: yes, it is legally available as a commercial product form many vendors, though not directly as such from debian.
04:42<Hydroxide>*from many vendors.
04:44<Hydroxide>damian: not only is anyone welcome to sell it, for reasons such as those themill mentioned customers can receive a good deal by paying a knowledgeable vendor to provide debian to them commercially. it is not a swindle unless there is some other reason to be suspicious.
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04:49<cookieburra>it basically comes down to him having a proof of purchase for a debian tech-support
04:49<damian>OK I understand. Can I sell the license debian ? Not the product as debian like cd, , but a license?
04:49<cookieburra>you can sell it for as much as you want, it's up to the user to decide if they want to pay or download it for free from the website
04:50<Hydroxide>damian: the vendor who sold Debian to your beneficiary is welcome to charge for granting you a license derived from the copy they legally possess.
04:50<Hydroxide>damian: they would usually offer additional value such as support, a warranty, consulting services, or the physical media to make it a good deal
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04:54<roxer>How can i get kernel version from the image on disk? i get the running version by using: cat /proc/version. I want to compare this 2 so i know when a reboot are needed :) Debian Jessie
04:56<jm_>roxer: file /boot/vmlinuz-foo
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04:57<pascal_>hi guys
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04:59<jm_>or if you want it more detailed, strings /boot/vmlinuz-foo | grep '^[0-9].* #[0-9]'
05:00<jm_>it's possible this regex is not specific enough, but you can improve on it yourself
05:00<roxer>no such file, or do u mean this one: vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64
05:00<jm_>yes -foo means replace it with the actuall filename
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05:01<roxer>i see
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05:11<themill>!reboot required
05:11<dpkg>If you've upgraded your kernel package you need to reboot to start running the new kernel. Unless the <kernel abi> has changed, uname -r doesn't tell you whether this is needed or not, instead compare /proc/version to the package version: if ! grep -q $(dpkg-query -f'${Version}' -W linux-image-$(uname -r)) /proc/version; then echo "Reboot required"; fi
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05:11<themill>(actually, from jessie onwards, you can just compare uname -v with /proc/version
05:11<themill>err, uname -v with the package version
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05:23<Hydroxide>themill: don't you mean uname -r? and what's new about that in jessie?
05:23<petn-randall>The 'needrestart' package also helps you with that.
05:23<themill>uname -r is meaningless (as dpkg says)
05:24<themill>(well, meaningless in determining whether a reboot is needed; it tells you if you need to recompile OOT modules)
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05:26<Hydroxide>themill: ah, sorry, I was still answering the first part of the question, not the whole thing.
05:27<Hydroxide>I wonder if the kernel package postinst adds some reboot required indicator for those notifiers which use it? we may want to do that
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05:29<themill>istr it does (in squeeze) if update-notifier is installer... but I can't keep pace with these automagical updater things and I've mostly given up on them
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05:33<Hydroxide>themill: oh I want those things to stay just as optional as they are now. but it's good for them to handle this use case.
05:33<Hydroxide>themill: when they are in use.
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06:21<ephlacla>hi
06:21<ephlacla>hi @silvia
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09:44<zhanshan>hey
09:45<zhanshan>I got about 120 "files path" in my console wanting to copy them with rsync to a folder, how is that possible?
09:45<zhanshan>it's like '/home/cata/kj.mts' '/home/cata/Kdjs.mts' and so on
09:45<zhanshan>any use?
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10:35<torouter>hallo
10:35<torouter>I jorked my Mate desktop, how do I delete all the settings and reset it?
10:35<torouter>I was trying to get compiz going....
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10:41<reactormonk>My package got systemd files - do I need to put daemon-reload somewhere?
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10:46<torouter>ello
10:47<musca>heko torouter
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10:51<torouter>does anyone here know how I switch back to mate from kde?
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10:55<olinuxx>torouter, what's about installing (with synaptic) : task-mate-desktop ?
10:55<olinuxx>never tried, just a guess
10:56<torouter>I think I have it installed, I just dont know how to switch to it from kde
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10:57<Blacker47>torouter, on the graphical login-screen you usaly have the choice of installed window-manager.
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10:57<lostatwork>do you want to remove kde first ?
10:58<torouter>yes, thats what I'm attempting right now
10:58-!-mode/#debian [+l 748] by debhelper
10:58<torouter>I dont get a choice at login...
10:58<torouter>that would be nice though...
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10:59<Blacker47>torouter, something like that: http://www.rawcomputing.co.uk/linux/linuxtip14.png
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11:20<prahal_>I fail to understand why mariadb-server remove debian-sys-maint and set a configurtion with user root and pasword empty ?
11:21<prahal_>this breaks scripts that use debian.cnf : automysqlbackup and logrotate from mariadb-server itself
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11:22<prahal_>from the postinst comment that discard the file content f debian-sys-maint is inside it looks on purpose, butthe purpose itself is not stated
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11:24<prahal_>mind I have a $HOME/.my.cnf with proper crendentials , only the debian.cnf overrides those in the above programs
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12:07<Guest7657>Do I need to install repesitories to run the additional invites dvd?
12:08<Guest7657>*virtualbox repositories
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12:13<CEP-2015-Jessie>debian 6., 7, 8???
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12:14<EmleyMoor>Load on my mail server is still high (35 now) - how do I work out why?
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12:22<Guest7657>Hello please I am installing the invited addition for virtualbox to use the shared folkders and a windows is dislpaying to ask me to run the dvd but I can not click in the run buttom with not see message "error during the automatical execution of the software: impossible to find the automatical running program".
12:23<Guest7657>I speak about a wheezy 7.9 guest system in a jessie host system.
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12:30<CEP-2015-Jessie>guest7657
12:30<CEP-2015-Jessie>if you have dramas, do the following, uninstall vbox, you go to page vbox, downloads the latest version out there for linux debian wheezy, do it all under root, you start console, SU ... virtualbox, and started virtualbox as root you install lasextensiones for your exact version of virtual box
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12:30<CEP-2015-Jessie>* problems
12:31<Guest7657><CEP-2015-Jessie> thank but what is the esieast version of virtualbox?
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12:32<somiaj>Guest7657: you don't want to use the windows cds to install the addons in a jessie guest. Get the guest addons from debian contrib
12:32<CEP-2015-Jessie>then you add your virtual pc in the new installation of vbox, the inicas, and add the additions devices ... and then install ...
12:32<somiaj>,v virtualbox-guest-dkms (for the guest)
12:32<judd>Package: virtualbox-guest-dkms on amd64 -- squeeze-backports: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u5; wheezy-security: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.3.18-dfsg-2~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 4.3.18-dfsg-3+deb8u3; jessie-security/contrib: 4.3.32-dfsg-1+deb8u2; jessie-proposed-updates/contrib: 4.3.32-dfsg-1+deb8u2;
12:32<judd>jessie-backports/contrib: 5.0.4-dfsg-2~bpo8+1; sid/contrib: 5.0.8-dfsg-1; stretch/contrib: 5.0.8-dfsg-1
12:33<Guest7657>No it is a wheezy guest in a jessie host.
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12:33<somiaj>Guest7657: either way, install the guest addons in the guest from debian. You can get 4.3.18 from wheezy-backports which should be good enough to have the addons.
12:34<Guest7657>What is the name of the addons?
12:34<Guest7657>Do I download their on the guest or host system?
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12:39<somiaj>Guest7657: I just gave you the package name above. And you install the guest addon's in the guest.
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12:42<alex_>hello!
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12:56<krpyton>shell account
12:56<krpyton>any cool one ?
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12:57<CEP-2015-Jessie>judd, I turned to my best since vbox page
12:57<judd>No package named 'turned' was found in jessie/amd64.
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13:02<joel_>Linux debian 2.6.33.7-rt29 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Wed Nov 17 00:52:27 CET 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
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13:07<Guest7657>Can I download virtualbox-qt on jessie?
13:09<centrx>Guest7657, virtualbox-qt is in jessie if that's what you mean
13:11<Guest7657>apt-get install virtualbox-qt retrurn the terminal does not- find this pakage.
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13:11<somiaj>,v virtualbox-qt
13:11<judd>Package: virtualbox-qt on amd64 -- squeeze-backports: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u5; wheezy-security: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.3.18-dfsg-2~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 4.3.18-dfsg-3+deb8u3; jessie-security/contrib: 4.3.32-dfsg-1+deb8u2; jessie-proposed-updates/contrib: 4.3.32-dfsg-1+deb8u2; jessie-
13:11<judd>backports/contrib: 5.0.4-dfsg-2~bpo8+1; sid/contrib: 5.0.8-dfsg-1; stretch/contrib: 5.0.8-dfsg-1
13:12<somiaj>Guest7657: virtualbox (due to an issue with compling the virtual bios) has to be part of contrib (not the main repo). YOu may have to enable contrib.
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13:13<Guest7657><Guest7657> Please?
13:13<Guest7657><blast007> how would we know? that's not a repository that Debian provides
13:13<Guest7657><mtn> Guest7657: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList
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13:13<Guest7657>I have made a controsense
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13:14<Guest7657>deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian jessie contrib
13:14<Guest7657>deb-src http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian jessie contrib
13:14<Guest7657>deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian jessie-updates contrib
13:14<Guest7657>deb-src http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian jessie-updates contrib
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13:15<Guest7657>But the precedents lines in apt/etc/sources.list are not understood by Debian.
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13:19<somiaj>Guest7666: you could share your sources.list with us so we can check it
13:20<somiaj>Guest7666: oh you did. Please share it at a pastebin.
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13:20<somiaj>Guest7666: you shouldn't need a seperate line for contrib. "deb mirror jessie main contrib" should be enough.
13:20<Guest7668>I don know what i do this plase Godby
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13:26<henning>Hello! I'm having a little problem displaying the fonts correctly in the lock screen and in the Gnome launcher. (See here: http://imagebin.ca/v/2LQ5w5SIXSab ). It works perfectly on my Arch Linux installation. Any idea what can fix this in debian?
13:27<Guest7657>https://paste.debian.net/322419/
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13:35<w33d0pe>hello
13:35<henning>The font problem occur on both my laptops, which are more or less default installation and an upgrade to strech repository. I assume I'm missing a non-free package, but can't figure out what..
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13:36<Guest7657>somiaj help me please.
13:37<w33d0pe>can anyone help me how to activate cpu.cfs_period_us and cpu.cfs_quota_us on jessie?
13:37<w33d0pe>Nov 3 00:04:52 localhost systemd[1]: Failed to set memory.limit_in_bytes on : Invalid argument
13:37<w33d0pe>Nov 3 00:04:52 localhost systemd[1]: Failed to set cpu.cfs_period_us on /system.slice: Permission denied
13:37<w33d0pe>Nov 3 00:04:52 localhost systemd[1]: Failed to set cpu.cfs_quota_us on /system.slice: Permission denied
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13:41<Guest7657>krypton help me too.
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13:41<Guest7657>judd too
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13:46<w33d0pe>any hints?
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13:50<somiaj>Guest7657: it is the repos you add, you don' tneed to use the virtualbox repos. Remove the virtualbxo repos and just append 'contrib' tot he end of your jessie lines
13:51<somiaj>I'm unsure what packages virtualbox provides from it's repos. The package I was pointing you at comes from debian
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13:55<Guest7657>Thank
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14:15<Guest7657>(synaptic:9950): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_child_watch_add_full: assertion 'pid > 0' failed
14:15<Guest7657>Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
14:15<Guest7657>L'interface GTK a besoin de python-gtk2 et python-glade2.
14:15<Guest7657>Ces modules n'ont pas été trouvés. Retour à l'afficheur page à page.
14:15<Guest7657>L'erreur est :No module named glade
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14:16<Guest7657>Well you have seen the problem.
14:16<somiaj>Guest7657: please use a pastebin for the errors. Also can you make put the error in english. You can do this by doing somethig like 'LANG="en_US.UTF-8" command
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14:17<somiaj>sounds liek youare missing a gtk module for your config.
14:18<somiaj>Guest7657: google suggestion you make sure to have libcanberra-gtk-module installed
14:18<somiaj>,v libcanberra-gtk-module
14:18<judd>Package: libcanberra-gtk-module on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.24-1; wheezy: 0.28-6; sid: 0.30-2.1; jessie: 0.30-2.1; stretch: 0.30-2.1
14:18<somiaj>depending on if you are running into this issue with 32bit software you may need the 32bit version too
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14:21<blast007>Guest7657: at this point, it might be easier to just reinstall your host system and then *only* use the packages that Debian itself provides, *not* third party repositories
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14:31<w33d0pe>does the jessie main kernel not support CONFIG_CFS_BANDWIDTH?
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14:35<somiaj>w33d0pe: check /boot/config-version, seems on the default 3.16 kernel in amd64 it is # CONFIG_CFS_BANDWIDTH is not set
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14:43<w33d0pe>it is
14:43<w33d0pe>true
14:43<w33d0pe>https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2015/10/msg00313.html
14:43<w33d0pe>just found this
14:44<w33d0pe># CONFIG_CFS_BANDWIDTH is not set
14:44<somiaj>w33d0pe: are you not on a debian machine? But yea various ways to check. My kenrnel is stock so it isn't set in amd64 at least. (:
14:44<w33d0pe>i need this feature
14:44<w33d0pe>mine as well
14:45<w33d0pe>main stable kernel on jessie
14:45<somiaj>then compile a custom kernel (or see if debian provides any variants tha tmight work)
14:45<w33d0pe>3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u5 (2015-10-09) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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14:45<somiaj>In this case you may have to compile a custom kernel
14:45<w33d0pe>yes
14:45<w33d0pe>so
14:45<w33d0pe>i actually just need to enable CONFIG_CFS_BANDWIDTH
14:46<w33d0pe>is there a deathproof way to this? i mean, i just have ssh access with root
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14:47<w33d0pe>if something goes wrong i would to reinstall the entire server
14:48<somiaj>!package recompile
14:48<dpkg>1) Add a <deb-src> line for your current release to your sources.list 2) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential devscripts fakeroot; aptitude -R build-dep packagename 3) as any user, apt-get source packagename 4) cd packagename-version/; ask me about <debian/rules>; 5) dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us 6) as root, dpkg -i ../packagename-version.deb. Ask me about <debian/rules>, <nocheck>, <nostrip>, <apt-get source>.
14:49<somiaj>w33d0pe: personally I'd test the kernel in a vm or some other less critical system first. But you can recompile the package with different options.
14:49<somiaj>I'm unsure what the best way to compile a kenrel on debian is these days as i odn't need to
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14:52<markybob>w33d0pe, somiaj http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s-common-official
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14:59<w33d0pe>ah
14:59<w33d0pe>thx
14:59<w33d0pe>so
14:59<w33d0pe>4.5 Building a custom kernel from Debian kernel source
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15:00<w33d0pe>this one seems to apply
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15:02<Korak>Ok, so I have Debian running in VirtualBox, the audio is very inconsistent. Most of the time I have had it running fast, now today it is running slow. There any ideas as to what I should be looking at?
15:04<Korak>I also have to say, playing fast is much better than slow. Chipmunk music is funny, female singers suddenly sounding like gruff men.... that is just frightening.
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15:15<lindi-_>w33d0pe: beware that it requires at least 30 gigabytes
15:16<lindi-_>w33d0pe: https://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage
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15:16<somiaj>Korak: you have to be careful how you share your hardware with the vm. Do you have the guest kernel module installed on the vm, this helps with integraiton and hardware.
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15:19<Korak>Debian seems to install the vmtools when installing in virtualbox.
15:20<somiaj>I'm talking about
15:20<somiaj>,virtualbox-guest-dkms
15:20<somiaj>,v virtualbox-guest-dkms
15:20<judd>Package: virtualbox-guest-dkms on amd64 -- squeeze-backports: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u5; wheezy-security: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.3.18-dfsg-2~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 4.3.18-dfsg-3+deb8u3; jessie-security/contrib: 4.3.32-dfsg-1+deb8u2; jessie-proposed-updates/contrib: 4.3.32-dfsg-1+deb8u2;
15:20<judd>jessie-backports/contrib: 5.0.4-dfsg-2~bpo8+1; sid/contrib: 5.0.8-dfsg-1; stretch/contrib: 5.0.8-dfsg-1
15:21<somiaj>Korak: the actualy guest addons
15:21<Korak>yeah, I am pretty sure those are installed, I shall give a quick check though
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15:24<Korak>ok, I was wrong. Those were not installed it would seem.
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15:28<Korak>Thank you for the help, hopefully that will work. I'm off to reboot and see.
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15:29<libriste>Hi everyone, sorry to interrupt your conversation but I have a problem : I restarded my computer because the HDD was making noises like it was restarting again and again, so I restarded twice and now I have this error message : "error : unknow filesystem. Entering rescue mode... grub rescue>"
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15:30<libriste>I don't have Windows on it, just Debian
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15:30<lindi-_>libriste: can you boot debian livecd
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15:31<libriste>Yes I can, I just have to make a bootable usb
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15:32<Korak>Woot, thank you somiaj, that seems to have fixed the issue.
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15:36<lindi->libriste: ok, try booting that and then check dmesg and smartctl -a /dev/sda. I'd also so try reading through the whole disk with e.g. "pv /dev/sda > /dev/null". if any of those show problems you want to replace the hardware as soon as possible
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15:37<lindi->libriste: additionally you might want to boot the diagnostic tool from your harddisk manufacturer, they can usually give you an error code that you can use for warranty
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15:44<libriste>Oh it's an old one ( 7 years maybe ) ^_^. I'm in the "options" of the motherboard right now (I'm a noob by the way :)) and the HDD keeps doing thoses noises of restarting, it was doing that 1 year ago but it stopped until today (sorry, my english is poor)
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15:45<libriste>Maybe the connections, I'll check that
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15:45<libriste>I'll get back to you then
15:45<lindi->libriste: I'd really consider buying a new disk immediately :)
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15:46<jhutchins>libriste: smartmontools
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16:14<Guest7678>Hello please what is the name of the pakages to install instead of additional invites?
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16:16<somiaj>Guest7678: you still talking about the virtualbox guest addons (or really the virtualbox guest module in linux)
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16:16<somiaj>,v virtualbox-guest-dkms
16:16<judd>Package: virtualbox-guest-dkms on amd64 -- squeeze-backports: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u5; wheezy-security: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.3.18-dfsg-2~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 4.3.18-dfsg-3+deb8u3; jessie-security/contrib: 4.3.32-dfsg-1+deb8u2; jessie-proposed-updates/contrib: 4.3.32-dfsg-1+deb8u2;
16:16<judd>jessie-backports/contrib: 5.0.4-dfsg-2~bpo8+1; sid/contrib: 5.0.8-dfsg-1; stretch/contrib: 5.0.8-dfsg-1
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16:18<Guest7678>judd really I am sorry but I do not understand what theses lines mean.
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16:18<somiaj>Guest7678: that is just the list of all versions of the package that exist in different versions of debian.
16:18<somiaj>Guest7678: look at what I said for the package name.
16:18<Guest7678>somiaj what is the difference between the addon and the guest module?
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16:20<somiaj>Guest7678: vocabulary mostly I belive. addons is just generic, but how drivers are installed in windows vs linux is quite different. For a windows guest you just install the 'virturalbox addon software'. but for linux you need to make a kernel module. debian automates this via the virtualbox-guest-dkms package (i.e. in linux drivers are modules and need to be built against your current knernel)
16:20<somiaj>so in essence I think they are the same thing, but they are installed differently due to the guest OS you are using
16:20<Guest7678>apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms in the guest machine?
16:20<somiaj>correct
16:20<somiaj>provided you have the 'contrib repo' installed
16:20<somiaj>Guest7678: were you running a wheezy guest on a jessie host?
16:21<somiaj>or was that someone else.
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16:21<Guest7678>yes somiaj.
16:22<somiaj>Guest7678: you might want to get the package from wheezy-backports then so it is a slightly newer version and may contain more features.
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16:23<Guest7678>contrib repo on the guest or main os?
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16:24<somiaj>this is all done on the guest, since you are installing the package on the guest
16:25<somiaj>(virtualbox is in contrib in debian, so really you need contrib to install virtualbox. But I figure you already have this working on the host, so now worry abou tthe guest)
16:26<Guest7678>since you are installing the package on the guest: what pakage?
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16:26<somiaj>Guest7678: scroll up. I have told you the name many times
16:26<somiaj>virtualbox-guest-dkms
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16:28<Guest7678>yes somiaj it was a english error from me.
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16:28<somiaj>Guest7678: no problem. (:
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16:35<waspper>Hello guys... What could be causing this issue: If I press Fn + F3/F4 (Keyboard backlight), it works... same for Fn + F11/F12 (Sound)... But, If I press Fn + F5/F6 (Screen brightness), it works just first time, and other shortcust stop working for a long time...
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16:36<jhutchins>waspper: There really aren't any standards for function keys.
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16:37<waspper>jhutchis: Yeap, but how can I fix/debug that?...
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16:38<waspper>They work well, if I never press Fn+F5 or Fn + F6, It's when they "stop" working...
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16:39<waspper>Also, if I press Fn+F5 or Fn + F6, and then I disconnect charger, it takes too long to show a notification...
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16:39<threatx>aloha! I am attempting to ssh into an aws instance using the ami= ami-818eb7b1 , but using 'admin' for the user name does not work; neither does ec2-user, root, debian
16:40<jhutchins>waspper: Search for information on your computer model's hotkeys + linux.
16:40<threatx>Would anyone happen to know what the user for connecting to ssh via aws is?
16:40<waspper>My laptop is an Asus R401V + KDE...
16:40<somiaj>threatx: Usually when you setup an ami you get a key-pair. use the key to login as root for authentication (or the default user)
16:40<somiaj>threatx: most likely they have it setup so only key authentication works, you need to set up the keypair.
16:41<somiaj>threatx: but this depends on the actual image you are using. The premade ones don't have default passwords. Yo ugenerate a keypair when you launch it to ensure you get unique auth method.
16:41<threatx>@somiaj yes; I am assigning our key; which works on every other AMI we've deployed thus far.
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16:41<somiaj>threatx: if the key is not designed for the user 'root'. I'm unsure. I would look into the documation or info about the actual ami image you are using.
16:41<waspper>For my laptop, Fn+F5: Decrease screen brightness... Fn+F6: Increase screen brightness...
16:42<somiaj>threatx: anything else here would just be a guess
16:42<threatx>The documentation says to use 'admin', but its not working for me. Is anyone else using this image successfully?
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16:42<waspper>-- Under KDE
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16:43<waspper>Also: If I run "xbacklight -inc 10", It works well, and does not "freezes" other keys...
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16:44<somiaj>waspper: have you looked up the actual keybinding/command that gets run when you press those buttons?
16:44<somiaj>each desktop/wm is going to do this their own way. and I'm unsure how kde does it.
16:44<jhutchins>waspper: So obviously there is a program that is capturing the scancode from those keys and issuing xbacklight commands.
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16:44<waspper>... How can I see that?
16:44<somiaj>I'd look up how to configure/see kde keybindings
16:45<jhutchins>waspper: The problem might be that some other program is intercepting that scancode.
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16:45<waspper>And how can I test that?
16:45<jhutchins>waspper: You can run xev in a terminal and it will show you what codes your keys are generating.
16:46<somiaj>jhutchins: that may not work if kde intercepts the keycodes before passing them to the window (xev in this case)
16:46<somiaj>which since they seem to alrady be bound to something most likely will happen
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16:47<somiaj>waspper: I would invesigate the actual program the keybinding runs. It seems to be what is 'breaking' things. But I don't know kde well enough to know where to look except kde should have a tool to see/configure/set keybindings
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16:49<waspper>Running "xev", I get this (after pressing Fn+F5):
16:49<waspper>http://pastebin.com/Q3Ws663h
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16:50<user_>le wifi a coupé. voici les lignes de mon etc/apt/sources.list
16:50<user_>http://paste.debian.net/322719/
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17:12<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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18:03<sleser>is there a whois on my wifi widget for debian kde ?
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18:30<Hassassin>Bonsoir
18:30<Hassassin>hi
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18:34<Joe-Public>Hello/Salut Hassassin
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18:35<canaima>soporte para canaima
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18:36<Joe-Public>soporte ¿con que?
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18:36<canaima>desconfigure la canaima
18:37-!-mlncn_ [~quassel@50.250.6.141] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:37<canaima>quiero colocarla como biene la canaima de nuevo
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18:37<Hassassin>Hello/Salut Joe-Public
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18:38<Hassassin>Speak english or french ?
18:38<Daniela>español
18:38<_Gabriel_7>!es
18:38<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
18:39<Joe-Public>oops we got busted.
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18:39<Daniela>me pasan el link
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18:39<Joe-Public>solo hay que teclar /join #debian-es
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18:40<Joe-Public>And anyway, "Canaima is not Debian"...
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18:41<Hassassin>Joe-Public, you say every language ?
18:41<Hassassin>:p
18:41<Hassassin>speak
18:41<Hassassin>all language
18:42<Joe-Public>Just english and spanish. Only a few words in french.
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18:42<Hassassin>Nice guy !
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18:43<Hassassin>Good night everybody
18:44<Joe-Public>Peace.
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18:56<joelkraehemann>is there a german channel
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21:30<GhostlyDeath>Hello, which package permits me to change/configure which encrypted volumes are required by the system too boot?
21:30<ryouma>grub2?
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21:31<GhostlyDeath>That is not it
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21:32<ryouma>hmm, dunno then
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21:33<GhostlyDeath>This is a non-bootable wheezy system, requires luksOpen, modprobe of ext4, mounts, then chroot
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21:41<tuly>aaah
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21:44<GhostlyDeath>hmm, appears there is a syntax error in crypttab, correcting it fixes the issue
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21:51<D->I've gotten 404's on two files when trying to install packages from Synaptic.
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21:55<themill>D-: that's a sign that you probably need to tell it to "update" first
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21:57<D->How do I update? It's been a really long time since I did that.
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22:01<Joe-Public>i don't synaptic, but you could always sudo apt-get update
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22:02<D->Works for me, thanks!
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22:05<D->Also, the first line in applying changes in Synaptic is always: (synaptic:7162): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_child_watch_add_full: assertion 'pid > 0' failed
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22:26<bluzeo>hey guys got an ? - i know Steamos is base on Debian. has it fish baking??? i been wanting too try it
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22:29<blast007>!steamos
22:29<dpkg>SteamOS is an operating system released by Valve as a gaming platform, based on Debian 7 "Wheezy". It is not supported in #debian, support is available in #steamOS on irc.freenode.net or at http://support.steampowered.com/ . See <based on debian>.
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