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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-11-14

---Logopened Sat Nov 14 00:00:32 2015
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01:58<jinppk>is there an issue happening now with sid repos?
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01:59<jinppk>im getting hash sum mismatch on my isp mirror and the offical repo
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02:51<premoboss>i need debian 7 kfreebsd 64bit. where can i find thre iso?
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02:53<danut>hello
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06:33<arcade>hi
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07:37<Xylon>I have a problem with scanning
07:37<Xylon>any scanning program I open crashes instantly
07:37<Xylon>even if I unplug the canner
07:37<Xylon>s/canner/scanner/
07:37<Xylon>and it prints a dump
07:38<Xylon>I'll pastebin I guess
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07:38<Xylon>*** buffer overflow detected ***
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07:39<Xylon>OK here's xsane: https://bpaste.net/show/6ff3e85da29e
07:40<Xylon>and here's simple-scan (similar): https://bpaste.net/show/9fb1b004552c
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07:41<Xylon>I need to scan something to send to my boss
07:41<Xylon>maybe I'll try Knoppix CD
07:41<Xylon>Knoppix cd has saved me so many times
07:41<Xylon>plus it has compiz
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07:53<angelagiuseppe>hi
07:54<angelagiuseppe>hi
07:54<angelagiuseppe>hi
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09:41<josi>Hi, I'm moving some VMs from wheezy to jessie. it seems that one now runs systemd, while the other still has sysV init. is there a way to investigate why that happened?
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09:42<Oimat>Hi, when I try to install wine on sid, apt-get wants to remove gnome and some of its programs (totam, evolution, etc...) . How can I install wine without removing gnome ? Thank you :D
09:43<zykotick9>Oimat: you may want to ask in #debian-next
09:43<Oimat>Okay :) What's on debian-next ?
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09:43<PovAddict>sid support
09:43<zykotick9>Oimat: support for testing & sid
09:43<Oimat>okay, thank ya :D
09:43<PovAddict>this channel is for stable
09:44<Oimat>Have a good afternoon then :)
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09:44<PovAddict>somiaj: I found my shmem problem
09:44<PovAddict>somiaj: java has a shmem leak
09:44<bodhi_>Oimat: Debian is currently in a transition process - ma be that the mentioned programs are still affected
09:45<Oimat>When will sid become stable ?
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09:45<zykotick9>Oimat: note - sid is always unstable...
09:46<bodhi_>Oimat: Sid will always be Sid
09:46<Oimat>oh :p
09:46<Oimat>*refomulating* : when current sid will become stable ?
09:47<zykotick9>Oimat: you don't seem to understand, sid is always sid. Testing will eventually become stable... not sid.
09:47<Oimat>okay ^^
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12:19<r4fkramer_debian>Hi all
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12:21<r4fkramer_debian>I would like to install real player, but it's not included in official debian repositories; so, I edited source.list in Debian Jessie with linux mint adress repository; but I couldn't fix this issue
12:21<r4fkramer_debian>Can't find real player, although it belongs to linux mint repository
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12:23<r4fkramer_debian>I used the following procedure to install firefox in debian, just for tests purposes, for I upgraded iceweasel to 42.0 and it's performing fine
12:23<r4fkramer_debian>sudo echo 'deb http://packages.linuxmint.com debian import' >> /etc/apt/sources.list
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12:24<musca>hello r4fkramer_debian, why do you think you need that software?
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12:24<r4fkramer_debian>Hi musca, how are you ?
12:24<musca>!realplayer
12:24<dpkg>RealPlayer is a proprietary cross-platform multimedia player by RealNetworks, supporting playback of files encoded in RealAudio and RealVideo. Installers for RealPlayer 7 and 8 were packaged for Debian in <contrib>, now removed. RealPlayer 11 for Linux is based on <helix player>. For RealVideo/RealAudio playback in other applications, ask me about <real codecs>. See also <ffmpeg>.
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12:25<r4fkramer_debian>oh, thanks a lot, dpkg !
12:26<musca>yeah, dpkg is a good guy
12:26<r4fkramer_debian>don't you think it's a a good idea, musca ?
12:26<r4fkramer_debian>help me to understand your point of view, musca; I'm sure it's important for me
12:26<musca>!rmvb
12:26<dpkg>RMVB (RealMedia Variable Bitrate) is an extension of the RealMedia container format. It has a reverse-engineered implementation in <libavcodec>, allowing RMVB playback within <mplayer>, <vlc>, <gstreamer> and <xine>. See also <real codecs>.
12:27<r4fkramer_debian>yes, dpkg is very nice, polite and Great !
12:28<markybob>r4fkramer_debian, i still hate your nick :P
12:30<r4fkramer_debian>why, markybob ?
12:30<r4fkramer_debian>which part from it do you hate ? r4fkramer ?
12:30<markybob>r4fkramer_debian, real estate. i'm mostly joking
12:30<r4fkramer_debian>oh ! ok I was worried here !! ahahaha
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12:31<r4fkramer_debian>r4f - My Family markybob
12:31<r4fkramer_debian>Robson (my name), Raquel (my wife), Rockerson and Rodney (my two sons)
12:31<r4fkramer_debian>all the names start wit ' R '; so, r4f
12:32<markybob>r4fkramer_debian, so you're the geek kardashian :P
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12:34<r4fkramer_debian>my God ! geek kardashian ! ahahahah
12:34<r4fkramer_debian>Where are you from, markybob ?
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12:34<markybob>r4fkramer_debian, brazil, originally. usa currently
12:36<r4fkramer_debian>oh, so you are brazilian !
12:36<r4fkramer_debian>where, exactly ? São Paulo, Minas Gerais, Paraná, Nordeste Brasileiro....
12:36<r4fkramer_debian>?
12:37<r4fkramer_debian>dpkg, I tried to install helix player here, with no result..
12:37<dpkg>r4fkramer_debian: no idea
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12:37<r4fkramer_debian>dpkg is from USA, i think
12:37<dpkg>r4fkramer_debian: i haven't a clue
12:41<r4fkramer_debian>how to install helix player in debian jessie, dpkg ? does it belong to official debian repository ?
12:41<blast007>r4fkramer_debian: what kind of file are you trying to play?
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12:45<r4fkramer_debian>I have no issue with smplayer I've installed here, blast007, just for install and test it afterwards
12:45<r4fkramer_debian>I like real player
12:45<r4fkramer_debian>I have vlc here and installed vlc-lugins also
12:45<r4fkramer_debian>just for curiosity, to check how does it run on linux
12:45<r4fkramer_debian>I just saw it in windows
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12:46<r4fkramer_debian>I would like to install these mentioned by dpkg, helix player
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12:47<r4fkramer_debian>for Linux environment, real player is based on helix player. Do you know how to do it, blast007 ?
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12:47<blast007>real player is pretty much the worst thing ever
12:48<r4fkramer_debian>do you think it's not a good idea havint it on debian, so....
12:48<blast007>It's not a good idea to install real player anywhere
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12:49<r4fkramer_debian>explain me the reason, I would like to learn it from yours, please blast007
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12:50<r4fkramer_debian>I'm quite novice on Linux Administration, although I have been using Debian for a long time
12:50<blast007>just search for "real player sucks" on your search engine of choice
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12:51<r4fkramer_debian>blast007, I had a strange behavior of vlc here: when I advanced a film, the volume disappeared...
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12:52<blast007>disappeared, or turned down all the way?
12:52<r4fkramer_debian>I didn't have this problem with smplayer, gxine, banshee and kmplayer, instead
12:52<r4fkramer_debian>turned down all the way
12:52<r4fkramer_debian>but it always happen, and just with vlc
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12:57<r4fkramer_debian>kmplayer I noticed now, it's not running ok, volume also, but in the case, very low volume
12:58<r4fkramer_debian>banshee, gxine and smplayer are ok, perfect in fact
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13:03<spixi>hi there, I have a small question. I had some files which contain strange � characters in their names (ls | less shows that this character is one of the hexadecimal numbers F6, E4 or FC or DF). fsck could repair the names (the correct characters are ö, ä, ü and ß), but now all the files are duplicated. How can I delete the dupclicates? grep does not work, since it thinks that the...
13:03<spixi>...output of...
13:03<spixi>...ls is binary and find -regex '.*\xF6.*' does not find any files.
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13:04<sasha__>hello, is there anyone who knows something about scripts for irc
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13:05<venaph> hello everyone, I just tried fsck on the image file of my partition, and it still shows an empty folder (lost+found). I applied fsck with and without backup superblock numbers. what else can I do?
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13:06<anonymous>hi
13:06<blast007>r4fkramer_debian: now are you seeking in VLC? just tried it here by clicking on a location on the position bar, and it doesn't mute
13:06<anonymous>hello
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13:20<spixi>Or is there another regex syntax in /usr/bin/find? How can I match these special characters?
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13:26<r4fkramer_debian>sorry blast007, I had to leave out here
13:26<r4fkramer_debian>I was absent
13:27<r4fkramer_debian>well, that's what I told you, vlc volume crashes if I advance the movie
13:27<r4fkramer_debian>but, it happens only in vlc; in gxine, banshee and smplayer, it's perfect
13:27<blast007>what are you clicking on to advance the movie?
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13:28<blast007>and sorry, I meant "how are you" in my previous message, not "now are you" :)
13:28<r4fkramer_debian>the progress bar, that indicates the time of the film
13:28<r4fkramer_debian>oh, fine blast007 !
13:28<blast007>Okay, that's what I was doing as well. It didn't change the volume though.
13:28<r4fkramer_debian>I will have to take some photos for my School Son
13:29<r4fkramer_debian>see you later, hope seeing you here afterwards, blast007 !
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13:33<spixi>I found a solution with tr
13:35<r4fkramer_debian>I will be back blast007. sorry for that, and thank you for our attention !
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13:35<spixi> /usr/bin/tr can prepare the "binary" output of /bin/ls and replace the binary characters by an unused character
13:36<spixi>thank you, nevertheless
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13:41<spixi>So I will use a workaround: ls | tr '[\366\344\374\337]' '####' | grep '#' | xargs rm
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13:43<spixi>This does not work of course, because I have to remap the special characters again ...
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13:47<spixi>So, my new version: ls | tr '\366\344\374\337' '#\\&$' | grep '#' | tr '#\\&$' '\366\344\374\337'| xargs rm
13:47<spixi>Why did the grep developers decide a special handling for binary files
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13:47<spixi>thats stupid!
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14:04<puka>hi guys :p if i make a python script code that: u enter a sentence.. and the script for a amount of space of caracter take out the caracters like: hi im am josh result in hi m jsh how i can create a reverse script?
14:04<puka>if i enter the encripted sentence to give me the real sentece?
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14:18<misterhat>puka: you've lost information
14:18<Jobbe>is there a man page for C data types ? similar to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_data_types
14:18<misterhat>you can't reproduce it
14:19<misterhat>if you arbitrarily remove letters from a string how would another program know which are gone?
14:19<puka>but if i know what letters he take out?
14:19<misterhat>you'd have to know the letters and positions
14:19<misterhat>and the end lenght
14:19<misterhat>length*
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14:20<puka>hm so
14:20<puka>if i set to take out "AEIOUaeiou" letters
14:20<puka>it's a chance to reproduce the sentence
14:20<puka>?
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14:25<ryouma>and here i was going to tell him how to do it
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14:25<puka>back
14:25<puka>dx were r u :D
14:26<dx>you could just /query dx, or, keep messaging me in the same pm window
14:26<dx>sorry everyone, puka is not very good with computers
14:27<puka>*thought* irc *thoutght*
14:27<dx>lol
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14:30<ryouma>puka: are you ok with an approximate solution? i don't know if debian has a useful markov tool for this purpose, but you could use one to resolve ambiguity
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14:31<puka>what?
14:31<puka>sry english it'snot my main language and i dont understand some words :D
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14:44<Guest8857>hola
14:44<eemcs>Hello, sometimes I set a luks container up that I have, and then I've to mount it with "sudo mount /dev/mapper/foo_container /mnt/foo_container_folder" is it possible to automount that file? so I just have to "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen my_foo_container foo_container"?
14:44<Guest8857>como paso a espa;ol
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15:32<Kuro>i'm confused about the 'size' option of the gnu 'find' command, i want to limit results to only files less than for example 1MB
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15:32<Kuro>according to the docs, i should use: find . -size -1M
15:33<Kuro>however this doesn't seem to work, these results make no sense to me: http://pastie.org/private/elipegc29hel30hzavgqq
15:34<Kuro>i'm probably just missing something obvious, and need some sleep...
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15:35<markybob>Kuro, find . -type f -size +1048576c
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15:37<Kuro>markybob, okay so indeed this works: find . -type f -size -1048576c
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15:38<markybob>Kuro, great
15:38<Kuro>why doesn't find . -type f -size -1M work though?
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15:38<Kuro>for files less than 1MB, shouldn't it work as specified here: https://www.gnu.org/software/findutils/manual/html_mono/find.html#Size
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15:39<markybob>Kuro, i don't know
15:41<Kuro>okay... thanks anyway :-)
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15:43<pron>hello
15:45<pron>i somehow cant get debian installer classes to work , no metter hat i do it doesnt fetch anything else then : /d-i/jessie/./preseed.cfg
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15:48<markybob>pron, #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net
15:48<pron>oh i tried alrdy
15:48<pron>=)
15:48<pron>yesterday
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15:49<markybob>pron, mailing list?
15:49<pron>i better commit suicide i guess
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15:50<markybob>pron, if i was an op i'd quiet you. that's improper
15:50<pron>markybob: parson i have realy bad experience with mailing lists =)
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15:50<pron>oi
15:50<pron>pardon*
15:50<pron>and forums
15:51<markybob>pron, debian-installer is going through a lot right now. main live developer quit, etc. it's kind of a mess.
15:52<pron>i see
15:52<SynrG>uh, what does that have to do with anything?
15:52<SynrG>"main live developer quit" has nothing whatsoever to do with d-i development
15:53<pron>ok
15:53<pron>:|
15:53<markybob>SynrG, if you think it doesn't affect debian proper that's fine. doesn't make it so.
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15:54*pron grabs popcorn
15:54<SynrG>...
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15:55<SynrG>pron: what instructions are you following for trying to use preseed.cfg?
15:55<SynrG>pron: and which image are you using this with?
15:55<pron>http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apbs02.html#preseed-auto
15:56<pron>and i am using netboot initrr and kernel
15:56<pron>initrd*
15:56<SynrG>so it's probably a netboot setup issue, then.
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15:56<pron>also some bits from hands.com/d-i/
15:56<pron>SynrG: what do you mean ?
15:57<pron>i am actualy booting that thing from pxe
15:57<pron>trying to make automated installs with virtualistion etc
15:57<SynrG>right. it's easy to make wrong turns setting it up.
15:58<pron>well classes is what doesnt work for me nwo
15:58<pron>or i missunderstand the way they work
15:58<pron>as far i udnerstand
15:58<SynrG>that being said, i don't have the expertise to help you. maybe #debian-boot does
15:58<pron>i just have to add classes=class_A;class_B
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15:59<pron>#debian-boot are silent as grave :D
15:59<SynrG>right. they're a developer channel, not a user support channel ... they're sporadically active when they have stuff to discuss
16:00<pron>luclily i am the last non bot message there
16:00<SynrG>so lurk. and meanwhile, research some more.
16:00<pron>anyways , if anyone have anything to say regarding to this thing , feel free to highlight me/whisper etc
16:01<pron>SynrG: i am using pxe liek 10 years for booting my things
16:01<pron>:|
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16:01<pron>there isnt that much docs about whole boot thing at all , and this is even ore specific thing
16:01<pron>not many propably use it , mostly cause of poor docs
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16:02<pron>anyways thx for your time ^^
16:04<SynrG>np
16:05<SynrG>markybob: you misrepresented my complaint. you said "debian-installer is going through a lot right now. main live developer quit,etc. it's kind of a mess." this is false. d-i is not "going through a lot" and the main live developer quitting doesn't impact them in any way.
16:05<SynrG>markybob: i did not say "it doesn't affect debian proper"
16:06<SynrG>certainly there are users and developers that are affected. the d-i team just happens to not really be affected.
16:06*pron sneaks back with that popcron
16:07<SynrG>disclosure: i'm a debian live developer. i get kind of pissed when people spread FUD about what just happened.
16:07<pron>and what just happened?
16:08<SynrG>it's a matter of public record. you can search and read about it.
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16:09<SynrG>it's also offtopic for support channel, so #debian-offtopic if you care
16:09<pron>:|
16:09<pron>SynrG: what should i google?
16:11<SynrG>pron: well, you could just read what i wrote about it here: http://syn.theti.ca/2015/11/09/the-passing-of-debian-live/
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16:18<amacater>SynrG: the "I'm not dead yet" post quoted as the second link from the main blog post proper is very clear and helpful - thanks
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16:19<SynrG>good. glad it helped
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16:21<pron>SynrG: i see
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16:30<amacater>pron - if you want help for PXE, maybe I can help
16:31<pron>amacater: oh noice
16:31<pron>amacater: only thing that doesnt work now is classes
16:31<pron>with netboot initrd/kernel
16:31<pron>or i dont udnerstand how they work
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16:33<amacater>Maybe I need to go do some revision :) The other option is that you also drop a mail to the debian-boot mailing list explaining as clearly as you can what the problem is. Writing it in an email
16:34<amacater>format means that we get to archive it. I will be back on here from time to time.
16:36<pron>oh mailing lists
16:36<pron>:|
16:36*pron has psychoogical trauma with those
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16:40<amacater>But the debian mailing lists can be OK - it's really much easier to post config files / snippets of logs in a mail to a mailing list than onto IRC
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16:42<Arcade>I have a question: is it better to disable multicast or enable multicast on a home network. Is there a recommended guide on what ports should be open on linux?
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16:52<amacater>Arcade: what do you think multicast will get you? What services do you _NEED_ across a network rather than just nice to have.
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16:55<Arcade>I noted my firewall is showing multi cast which is being blocked inbound. I did not know if its safe to allow though.
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17:25<amacater>I'd suggest if you don't know what multicast is doing for you - leave it blocked.
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18:48<genghiskhan>hello. I have problems running opengl programs on jessie, such as glxgears, graphics displayed on my screen are corrupted. (see https://img42.com/XMPT7) What can I do to try to fix that problem ?
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18:53<Brigo>genghiskhan, what graphic card?
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18:58<genghiskhan>Brigo, a radeon hd 5850. I'm using the open source driver (lshw -c video reads 'driver=radeon')
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18:59<Brigo>genghiskhan, what is the output of glxinfo |grep -i rendering ?
19:00<genghiskhan>Brigo, 'direct rendering: Yes'
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19:01<Brigo>genghiskhan, i don't use those cards, but i think you need the non-free driver to get 3D acceleration.
19:01<Brigo>!fglrx
19:01<dpkg>fglrx / AMD Catalyst is the proprietary display driver for AMD Radeon R9 200 series, Radeon R7 200 series, Radeon HD 8000/7000/6000/5000 and FirePro graphic processing units. To install fglrx, see https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary or ask me about <fglrx dkms>. This driver is incompatible with the GNOME desktop of Debian 8 "Jessie" due to lack of EGL support (ref. §5.11 <jessie release notes>), use the <radeon> driver instead.
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19:06<genghiskhan>Brigo, yes I read that gnome3 and fglrx are not compatible. I didn't know the proprietery driver was required for 3d rendering though. :(
19:07<Brigo>genghiskhan, maybe there si some workaround, but i really don't know, try google or #gnome channel in freenode irc network.
19:07<Brigo>s/si/is
19:07<genghiskhan>Brigo, thank you!
19:07<Brigo>genghiskhan, np, good luck :)
19:07<mxn>hm, is it true that ati cards are better supported nowadays?
19:08<mxn>i'm having quite a few issues with my nvidia card (which i got cause in my memory nvidia worked fine), wondering if i should buy an ATI one
19:11<Brigo>mxn, well i have a nvidia card and i haven't any issue lately, i mean for years.
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19:12<mxn>maybe i just got a bad one :/
19:13<mxn>btw, is there any difference between gfx card vendors? or do they just slap their logo on it and it makes no difference from the OS POV?
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19:26<catern>hi #debian
19:26<catern>I was using etckeeper, as is usual
19:26<catern>and, well, I may have made a mistake
19:27<anabel>ok
19:27<catern>I issued an "etckeeper vcs clean -fd" command
19:27<catern>and it deleted a bunch of probably important things in /etc
19:27<anabel>and why
19:28<catern>oh, oh
19:28<catern>they were just empty directories
19:28<catern>silly of me
19:28<anabel>you can helping
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21:25<FatBuck>hello, is there anybody out there? ...
21:26<somiaj>If you have a question just ask.
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21:27<FatBuck>yes, I'm new to Linux (mostly), and I am working with a Beagle Bone Black board, that runs Debian. It used to auto log in, but after I gave root a password it doesn't log in anymore.
21:28<FatBuck>I remember back in the 90's IRC was a busy place. It sure seems slow now.
21:29<somiaj>FatBuck: is it running debian or some third party image based on debian? Do you happen to know what it was using for auto login? Was this auto login into a desktop or a console?
21:29<somiaj>depends on the channel, network.
21:31<FatBuck>I'm not sure how to check which debian it has installed, it came with the board. I've been trying to figure out where they setup the auto log in, I just can't find it, no even with Google searches.
21:31<somiaj>FatBuck: what does cat /etc/debian_version return?
21:32<somiaj>FatBuck: also you can you put the output of 'apt-cache policy' at paste.debian.net
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21:32<FatBuck>"
21:32<FatBuck>7.4
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21:33<somiaj>that seems like an outdated wheezy version.
21:33<FatBuck>very well could be
21:34<somiaj>well I'm unfamilar with the bagel, but auto logins are things that we usually don't suggest. Usually this is done with the display manager, gdm3 for instance.
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21:34<somiaj>But if there was some special script set up to autologin as root, I'm unsure what it could be doing.
21:35<FatBuck>Yeah I'm not thrilled it would auto log in, but I think I messed something up when I gave root a password. Perhaps I will just continue without auto log in. Like you said, it's not a great idea.
21:36<somiaj>I would also run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to get to 7.9
21:37<somiaj>and make sure you have security sources in your s/etc/apt/sources.list
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21:37<FatBuck>somiaj: Thank you for helping with my question.
21:37<somiaj>!wheezy secuirty sources
21:37<FatBuck>how do I get security sources?
21:38<somiaj>!wheezy security
21:38<dpkg>On Debian 7 "Wheezy" systems, there are two repositories that you should have in your sources.list aside from your main mirror. You should have an entry for "wheezy/updates" which is security updates (ask me about <security>) and also an entry for "wheezy-updates" which is other updated packages (formerly known as volatile, ask me about <wheezy-updates>). See also <sources.list>. <lifespan> <wheezy-lts>
21:39<FatBuck>Thanks dpkg
21:39<somiaj>FatBuck: if you put the output of 'apt-cache policy' at paste.debian.net I could see what you are currently configured for
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21:42<FatBuck>http://paste.debian.net/332746/
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21:43<somiaj>your sources look fine, and security is included you should just upgrade your system.
21:44<somiaj>as for the autologin thing, I'm unsure what was preconfigured on your os to make that happen.
21:45<FatBuck>I'm not too concerned about the auto login, I was just surprised it broke. Thanks for the tip about the secutity, I'll do the upgrade
21:45<FatBuck>how can I check if I have enough disk to do the upgrade?
21:45<somiaj>FatBuck: df -h should list all eh mounted drives and space free
21:45<FatBuck>there is a slot for a micro sd card, I could add more disk if I am low.
21:47<FatBuck>it looks like lots of disk is left. The only disk I have is currently permanent solid state type, soldered on the board.
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21:49<FatBuck>thank you for the help. I need to go now, have a great day somiaj.
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21:50<FatBuck>My daughter is sitting beside me, and this is the first time she has ever seen IRC chat. She keeps asking me if you are from across the world. I'm from Canada. Do you mind telling me where you are from?
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21:52<thatguychuck>USA
21:52<musca>Germany
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21:55<musca>FatBuck: even today IRC can be busy. ##linux on freenode.net has over 2000 users just this moment.
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23:37<tsimonq2>How do I install a debootstrap that is able to build functional chroots for all the suites we build for?
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23:53<somiaj>on debian you just apt-get install debootstrap
23:53<somiaj>for other distros, some provide that script some don't. But you can get a copy of it that should work in linux
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