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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-11-18

---Logopened Wed Nov 18 00:00:38 2015
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00:08<theworm>Hi!!!
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00:09<theworm>hello
00:09<theworm>i'am italy
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00:10<markybob>!it
00:10<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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01:21<sun>ls
01:22<sun>anyone who use kalilinux
01:23<themill>#kali-linux is on irc.freenode.net
01:23<sun>thank you very much
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01:27<Guest9167>lost audio on ububntu studio is there anyone that can help me please
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01:29<towo^work>here is debian, not ubuntu
01:29<jm_>try #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net
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01:45<sylwek>ubuntu based on debian
01:46<tinymikey_>is that a question or a statement?
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04:05<rsturm>jm_: thx for your help yesterday, i found out that the system is working fine, including getty. It seems to be VMware not updating the screen. I can use tty1 in "blind mode"
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04:06<jm_>rsturm: no problem
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05:19<C-Keen>Hi! I am running debian 8.2 on amd64 and lately an aptitude upgrade wants to install linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64. This seems to "hang" in the configuration stage when running zz-update-grub postinstall stage during "Generating grub configuration file ...". Is this a known problem and how can I recover from that?
05:19<C-Keen>So far I haven't been able to find something in the bugtracker
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05:24<musca>C-Keen: do you have enough free space in your /boot partition?
05:26<C-Keen>musca: it's part of my / and there's enough free space
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05:35<tokunbo>login
05:36<jm_>C-Keen: does it also hang if you run that manually?
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05:37<C-Keen>jm_: Yes, I have tried running dpkg -reconfigure afterwards
05:37<jm_>C-Keen: I mean if you run update-grub
05:37<C-Keen>jm_: yes, just tried that
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05:38<C-Keen>I could try to strace it to see what goes wrong there
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05:38<jm_>C-Keen: then see how far it goes -- sh -x /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
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05:38<jm_>no need to strace it for first look
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05:39<C-Keen>jm_: the last two lines are
05:39<C-Keen>+ echo ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
05:39<C-Keen>+ /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
05:39<jm_>stick set -x in that one as 3rd line
05:40<C-Keen>+ os-prober
05:40<C-Keen>+ + paste -str -d ^
05:40<C-Keen>those are the last two
05:40<jm_>put it all on the paste site (/msg dpkg paste)
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05:44<C-Keen>jm_: http://pastie.org/10564755
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05:46<C-Keen>(paste.debian.net seems to be unreachable for me)
05:47<jm_>/usr/bin/os-prober is a shell script too, try running that manually with sh -x and see where it gets stuck
05:48<jm_>do you need to use os-prober?
05:48<C-Keen>it's stuck at exec /usr/lib/os-prober/newns /usr/bin/os-prober
05:49<C-Keen>and I don't know whether I need it
05:49<jm_>that rings a bell somehow - it's used to add entries for other OS-es to grub, do you need that?
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05:50<C-Keen>no it's the only OS on that box
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05:50<jm_>then the simplest option is to uninstall os-prober
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05:53<C-Keen>jm_: yes, that helped. Thanks for curing the sympthom!
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05:58<jm_>no problem
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06:00<jm_>there are already a few hang reports for it in BTS
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06:08<dravanti>hello all
06:09<C-Keen>jm_: yeah it seems to be an instance of #680084, I do have grub-mount processes left there
06:09<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/680084 in os-prober (closed, confirmed, fixed-in-experimental): «postinst script gets stuck»; severity: important; opened: 2012-07-03; last modified: 2013-02-25.
06:09<C-Keen>yep
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06:10<C-Keen>It may be due to my fs setup which is a luks container, made by the debian installer
06:10<C-Keen>(fully encrypted root)
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06:12<jm_>yeah probably
06:12<C-Keen>although I don't see any of these warnings mentioned
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06:12<C-Keen>also I don't think my setup is so uncommon, why aren't there more people with this issue :)
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06:16<dravanti>i installed kali tools with katoolin on my debian box, but it messed up my menu. can anyone help with how to uninstall katoolink tools
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06:26<blu>hi guys. i'm looking for a new monitoring system. currently I have check_mk but i'm not happy with it.. its annoying to configure and write checks for. what do you use? I know and tried nagios icinga check_mk and zabbix so far. any secret tipp? preferably written in py?
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06:47<anonymous68>import csv # write stocks data as comma-separated values
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06:50<anonymous68>writer = csv. writer (open('stocks.csv' , 'wb' buffering=0
06:53<jm_>wrong channel?
06:54<anonymous68>writer .writerows([ ('GOOG' ,'Google , Inc , 27.38;0 33;1.22)
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06:57<anonymous68>#read stocks data, print status massages
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07:00<jm_>anonymous68: are you aware you are mentioning this in #debian?
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07:02<anonymous68>stocks =csv.reader(open('stocks . csv' ' rb'
07:02<anonymous68>))
07:03<jm_>do you have a debian related question we can help you with? otherwise please take this elsewhere
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07:08<anonymous68>status_labels = {-1: 'down' , 0: 'unchanged' , 1: 'up' .......Ok !sorry
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08:33<Born_to_Run>Whats the server from anonymous?
08:34<sara>ciao
08:34<sara><1list
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08:37<markybob>Born_to_Run, anonymous? the hacking group?
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08:39<Born_to_Run>Yes, the hacking group.
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08:40<markybob>Born_to_Run, no one here is going to help you. it's inappropriate and offtopic
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10:38<Jonnycake>Hey all, name's Jon. I've got a quick question for you guys. At my work we use apt/dpkg for package management, we have our crons listed in DEBIAN/conffiles. Now normally, when something is marked as a conffile, we get prompted as to whether we would like to overwrite the file or keep the local version. This has worked fine up until recently where we noticed that we weren't getting prompted and that the local version h
10:39<blast007>Jonnycake: your message got cut off at "weren't getting prompted and that the local version h"
10:40<Jonnycake>s been maintained. The file does exist in the package (our first thought was that it had been missed). One of our developers noted that sometimes it seemed as though the package manager remembered the response from the last time a dpkg -i was ran and used that. Is this the case? If so, is there a way to
10:40-!-wowaname` is now known as cat
10:40<Jonnycake>clear those selections? Has anyone else noticed this behavior? Any information would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
10:40<Jonnycake>Sorry, forgot IRC has a length limit
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11:01<quentusrex>Is there a channel specific to systemd questions?
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11:02<quentusrex>I'm trying to update a systemd unit file for a package relating to a new temporary/runtime file that needs to be created. Systemd appears to be denying the application permission to create the file.
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11:03<quentusrex>I can start the app as the non priviledged user, and the files are created, but if I start the app with systemd the app gets file creating permission denied.
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11:26<jelly>quentusrex: there's #debian-systemd over on irc.oftc.net (different irc network)
11:26<PovAddict>this is oftc
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11:26<jelly>oops!
11:27<jelly>> there's #debian-systemd over on irc.oftc.net (this irc network)
11:27<PovAddict>:D
11:27<jelly>FIXED
11:27<StajjatS>Anonymous NoobGuide
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11:50<toucansam>anyone in here
11:50<toucansam>>
11:50<toucansam>?
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11:51<toucansam>respond if you wanna chat just chillin at work
11:51<markybob>toucansam, that takes place in #debian-offtopic
11:52<toucansam>ok cool still learning the system
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12:09<ikkname>hello
12:11<z3r0>hi all
12:11<z3r0>is there anyone that know about software that has all 0-days and exploits even unsubscripted one's , and its special software and just used by some agencies like CIA???????
12:11<PovAddict>eh?
12:12<PovAddict>how would anyone here know about that?
12:12<markybob>z3r0, you're offtopic.
12:12<PovAddict>if we knew about it we'd go and fix those bugs :P
12:12<markybob>that's not the point. still offtopic and inappropriate
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12:12<z3r0>it was just question markybob
12:12<markybob>z3r0, it was just in the channel's /topic
12:13<z3r0>PovAddict: i asked that CUZ i hear something about that, something from reliable sources
12:13<z3r0>ok markybob
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12:14<ikkname>how can i use (ssh) my new centos server ip ? new virtual interface, new interface, new machin adress or new machin adress and new (virtual ?) interface ?
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12:23<blast007>!centos
12:23<dpkg>CentOS (Community ENTerprise Operating System) is a rebuild of the Red Hat Enterprise Linux RPMs by the community. http://centos.org/ For IRC support, join #centos on irc.freenode.net.
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12:45<katari>ja
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12:47<katari>apt-get install humanity
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12:47<abrotman>oh, that's good
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12:49<katari>ashamed of human intelligence
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12:53<abrotman>srsly ...
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14:02<slbtc>does anyone here use qubes os?
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14:06<anon>join
14:06<anon>New to debian
14:06<anon>??
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14:08<danielsh>anon, do you have a question?
14:08<anon>Just any advice would be great
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14:08<danielsh>anon, advice about what?
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14:09<anon>Any packages i should be downloading?
14:09<slbtc>I need help for anyone else using qubes
14:09<slbtc>for some reason it didn't install a dom0 root so I can't boot the OS.
14:10<danielsh>anon, that depends on your needs... everyone has their own set of preferred packages.
14:10<danielsh>slbtc, you should look for a qubes channel, qubes isn't debian
14:10<anon>Im looking to just explore Linux
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14:11<anon>See how it works understand it abit more
14:11<anon>I apologise for my absence of knowledge
14:11<slbtc>daneilsh, I know that the IRC channel is empty..
14:11<danielsh>anon, no need to apologise :)
14:11<slbtc>danielsh*
14:11<danielsh>slbtc, then use their mailing list ?
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14:12<slbtc>danielsh, I haven't seen one..
14:12<danielsh>anon, I would link you to a web page with some info, but I'm not sure where that is, sorry :( In the mean time feel free to ask questions if any
14:12<anon>Okay - So is there anything i should not do - I know i shouldnt be messing with any settings im not 100% with
14:13<danielsh>slbtc, homepage → "Help" on the navbar will find them... did you look there?
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14:13<slbtc>danielsh, nevermind I found it lol
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14:14<danielsh>anon, don't install packages from random untrusted repositories
14:14<anon>Understood :-)
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14:14<anon>I used to use Ubuntu but this is a little different
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14:14<danielsh>It's mostly the interface, I think, not the underlying technologies
14:15<danielsh>ubuntu is based on debian, as you may know
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14:15<anon>Yes - Hence why i decided to go down this route rather than something like tails
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14:24<anas>Hi people
14:24<centrx>Who you calling people?
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14:25<anas>everyone in here ?
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14:27<centrx>Everyone is here
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14:31<javanse>anyone issues with connecting to irc.anonops.com?
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14:33<anon>It was playing up earlier
14:33<anon>connection up and down
14:34<javanse>webchat is up but my client cant connect
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14:38<PovAddict>powertop seems to think my wireless interface uses 15 watts
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14:39<PovAddict>wlan0 uses 14.8W and the battery reports a total discharge rate of 11.2W? I don't think that's right :p
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15:04<tinymikey_>does anyone know how to configure honeyd? i keep getting ttdtool returning errors - restarting
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15:13<ohherro>hio
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15:16<ohherro>I have a question regarding debian 4.0 etch and its apt-get sources list. What would be the right entry for this release? I currently have it set up to http://archive.debian.org/debian etch contrib non-free. I would like to make sure that all the packages that are installed on that machine are the latest...
15:17<gsimmons>dpkg: tell ohherro -about etch sources.list
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15:18<ohherro>thank you very much gsimmons
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15:23<ohherro>gsimmons I have etch running on this very old machine. can I just upgrade like that to the latest debian release with the old hardware being supportet?
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15:28<lenz>I have a problem with a usb stick.
15:28<lenz>I have a problem with a usb stick. It shows up in lsusb but not in /dev/sdb. How can I mount it?
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15:30<gsimmons>ohherro: That depends on the hardware and state of current support in modern Linux kernels. Your system would require to be upgraded from Etch to Lenny (5.0), then Squeeze (6.0), then Wheezy (7) and finally Jessie (8).
15:30<luz>HOla
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15:31<lenz>Hello there. I have an usb stick that shows up in lsusb but not in /dev/sdb. How can I mount it? It has an LEd that glows, too.
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15:31<r4fkramer_debian>Hi all
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15:32<r4fkramer_debian>I would like to write some articles about Debian GNU/Linux, showing the Several Advantages Debian features, compared to other Distros and BSD Systems. How do I do ?
15:32<gsimmons>ohherro: You can ask our infobot (e.g. /msg dpkg etch->lenny) for details about upgrade procedures and release notes. You may find it easier to instead perform a new/fresh installation of Debian 8 "Jessie", instead of four in-place upgrades.
15:33<r4fkramer_debian>I think It is a way to Help the Debian Project
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15:33<ohherro>gsimmons hmm alright that sounds like a plan. thank you very much for your kind information.
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15:35<r4fkramer_debian>The Distro Debian GNU / Linux is so superior in various attributes, compared to other BSD and GNU / Linux Distros systems, which to me makes no sense she be seen by some as one among many Open Source systems available ..
15:36<r4fkramer_debian>I have already written some articles about Debian, but only in brazilian sites
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15:36<r4fkramer_debian>I would like to write in some american and european ones
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15:37<mtn>lenz, put the stick in and then run in a terminal: lsblk paste to dpaste.com and give us the link
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15:39<r4fkramer_debian>mtn, see my Debian Jessie's partition, please:
15:39<r4fkramer_debian>NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
15:39<r4fkramer_debian>sda 8:0 0 18.7G 0 disk
15:39<r4fkramer_debian>├─sda1 8:1 0 17.9G 0 part /
15:39<r4fkramer_debian>├─sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part
15:39<r4fkramer_debian>└─sda5 8:5 0 823M 0 part [SWAP]
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15:46<lenz>mtn http://dpaste.com/0M4BEWC it seems to be sc
15:46<mtn>lenz, ok, problem solved?
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15:48<lenz>one moment mtn
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15:50<lenz>problem solve, thanks mtn.
15:51<mtn>lenz, welcome
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15:52<hudo>hello i like to compile a static and lib32 version of "file" from file-5.11.orig.tar.xz
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16:26<d3rp>Anyone here done disk transfers with the 'dd' command before?
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17:08<mi11k1>hey, I have an RPI running jessie and an arduino linked up to it, im running software called Processing and it gets data from /dev/ttyUSB0, i want to forward /dev/ttyUSB0 to another machine via SSH and run Processing on that machine insetead of the RPI. what would be a good way to do this? Netcat, Socat?
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17:13<ompaul>!raspberry
17:13<dpkg>The Raspberry Pi is an open hardware design based on a Broadcom system-on-a-chip, requiring <non-free> <firmware>. Debian's <armel> port works fine, but does not use the Pi's hardware floating point unit. Debian's <armhf> port targets a newer revision of the ARM chip than is in the Pi, so armhf will not work on it. http://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi http://www.raspberrypi.org/ #raspberrypi on irc.freenode.net.
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17:14<amacater>Pi 2 will run Debian 8 armhf port because it's an ARM7
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18:17<jcamero>hello
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18:20<jcamero>I have a question about installing b43 installer
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18:30<jcamero>I am attempting to install b43-installer but the computer does not have an active internet connection. since the installer is attempting to access the internet, is there a way around this?
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18:49<Brigo>jcamero, get the firmware yourself.
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18:52<jcamero>I downloaded the .deb file put it on a usb.. but when I run it in dpkg it attempts to connect to www.lwfinger.com then it fails
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19:11<markybob>jcamero, the easiest way is to use the installer with firmware already in it. are you familiar with that?
19:12<markybob>jcamero, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/
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19:27<jcamero>I havn't done it before. but should be able to do it with minimal assistance
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19:50<jcamero>thanks for all the help
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20:34<sleser>guys is there outlook express for linux ?
20:35<mattcen>sleser: No
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20:36<sleser>how can i connect to newsgroups ?
20:37<mattcen>Try icedove
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20:38<markybob>there isn't even outlook express for windows...
20:38<sleser>im trying to fallow instructions here so i can connect to it : http://optimum.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1255/kw/newsgroups
20:38<sleser>from a linux machine
20:39<markybob>sleser, that has zero to do with debian. like i said, you know it doesn't even exist for windows anymore, right? you can try asking #winehq on irc.freenoden.net (different network)
20:40<sleser>ok
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20:44<abrotman>sleser: Thunderbird can do newsgroups
20:45<sleser>thanks
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20:53<Grimace>Is this the room to ask for help in installing drivers?
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20:57<abrotman>drivers for what OS?
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20:58<Grimace>Wifi Drivers for Debian 8
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20:59<Grimace>I installed the free ISO and want to know how to install the non-free wireless driver for a Dell laptop.
20:59<markybob>Grimace, what's the chipset?
21:01<abrotman>Grimace: do you have a wired connectoin you can use for a few minutes?
21:02<Grimace>This laptop does not contain an ethernet port. I have a seperate PC with internet I'm using now.
21:02<Grimace>I have the debian non-free ISO I could reinstall but I would prefer to keep the install and add the wifi driver.
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21:03<abrotman>Grimace: your life will be easier to use the non-free ISO
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21:04<Grimace>Is that the easiest solution? Reinstall with non-free ISO?
21:04<markybob>yes
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21:06<abrotman>without an ethernet port, you'd have to get the packages from the mirror. then put them on a usb drive, then mount that, install the packages, and reboot, load the driver, then configure it, etc
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21:06<abrotman>oh, and any helper packages you'd have to install via USB also
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21:20<Grimace>I am stuck during install.
21:20<Grimace>Detect network hardware
21:20<Grimace>need
21:20<Grimace>iwlwifi-3160.ucode
21:21<Grimace>iwlwifi-3160-9.ucode
21:21<Grimace>iwlwifi-3160-8.ucode
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21:26<abrotman>did you use the nonfree ISO?
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21:30<Grimace>I loaded the non-free ISO on a different USB to try again.
21:31<somiaj>Grimace: one note, the netinstall contains a base system so you can complete the isntall without your wifi, then copy the firmware over to get your network up.
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21:31<Grimace>I'm using the graphical install option.
21:33<somiaj>I don't belive that should matter. Anyways if you got the non-free installer you should be fine.
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21:36<Grimace>Might be an issue with enabling wifi for the installer to detect it.
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22:02<qi>how to learn C++ in the Debian environment?
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22:03<qi>i want to become a quant using C++ in my job
22:04<qi>someone give me some advices? thank you
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22:11<somiaj>qi: any c++ guide for linux or other nix should work. Install build-essential and I thnk that gives you enough tools/libaries to get started
22:12<somiaj>as for specific guides for learing c++ (g++ is the GNU cpp compiler), there are c++ channels and many guides searchable though google.
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22:28*abrotman would not recommend the Borland Turbo C++ For DOS texts ..
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22:33<qi>thank you
22:34<qi>i am going to start learning
22:34<qi>byb
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22:36<r4fkramer_debian>HI all
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22:37<r4fkramer_debian>is there any command that I can use to defragment my Debian Jessie (xfs file system) ?
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22:38<r4fkramer_debian>or it's not considered too important in this case ?
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22:40<abrotman>you don't need to
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22:45<r4fkramer_debian>Hi abrotman
22:46<r4fkramer_debian>in the case of ext3 , ext4 and xfs, it is not necessary, though ?
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23:18<r4fkramer_debian>I would like to know if there is a substitute for amule in Debian. Mine's version is Jessie 8.2.0
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23:19<r4fkramer_debian>Is that advisable to use programs that work with p2p protocol ?
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