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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-11-25

---Logopened Wed Nov 25 00:00:02 2015
---Daychanged Wed Nov 25 2015
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00:11<Zinov>Hello.
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00:18<LucyParsons>Stryker, You might want to check this out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/260777/how-to-migrate-an-encrypted-lvm-install-to-a-new-disk
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01:33<Stryker>Hello, I have a LUKS encrypted Debian install that takes up an entire drive. How can I clone this install to a partition on another drive without losing data?
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02:40<pooyan>Hi people, I'm considering joining Debian while having no real connection to the community.
02:40<pooyan>Can someone pitch me why should I try to be a Debian member?
02:41<pooyan>I'm asking this to make sure I'm trying to join for right reasons.
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04:53<sperrhaken>When I run "aptitude -F '%p %I' search '!~v' --sort "installsize" not the whole package listing appears to be in order (http://paste.debian.net/335897/); how do I get aptitude to list packages in estimated install size order?
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04:56<sperrhaken>The pasted listing shows the last 50 lines that the aptitude command printed.
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05:04<jm_>heh nice one, it sorts about 43400 lines OK for me, but then the last ~35 are out of order - looks to be the ones in state "rc"
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05:12<Yotus>hey
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05:15<sperrhaken>I think you are correct.
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05:15<test>aze
05:15<Yotus>ez
05:15<sperrhaken>, with your assumption about the package state.
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05:16<test>az
05:16<Yotus>haha
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06:48<stephen>hi
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07:11<kblin>hi folks
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07:12<edward>it seems like pepperflashplugin-nonfree
07:12<edward>isn't working
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07:13<kblin>Say, I'm a bit confused about https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=791590
07:13<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/791590 in python-pyquery (open, upstream): «python-pyquery 1.2.4 incompatible with python-cssselect 0.9.1 it depends on in jessie»; severity: important; opened: 2015-07-06; last modified: 2015-07-06.
07:13<kblin>Apparently this is going to be fixed by a new pyquery version in unstable, but is this going to be fixed in stable?
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07:16<andreaskuerten>moin
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07:17<andreaskuerten>moin
07:17<alexheck>hi
07:17<alexheck>moin
07:17<alexheck>was get ab
07:17<alexheck>alter
07:17<alexheck>nicht cool
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07:17<alexheck>0gfgsadifgasdfasdf
07:17<alexheck>asfijaiosdjfiojasdiojfaidjsfijadsfijasdf
07:17<alexheck>Hi ich bin Alex und du bist
07:17<andreaskuerten>i use Linux
07:18<andreaskuerten>Linux Ubuntu (Xubuntu)
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07:19<benbast>hi
07:19<alexheck>Was geht ab
07:19<benbast>tralles man
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07:20<benbast>fick mit dem pfahl von jeremia
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07:21<jthomas__>.
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07:21<floriansiegert>hi
07:21<benbast_>hi
07:21<benbast_>wie gehts?
07:21<floriansiegert>wie gehts
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07:22<benbast_>hi andreas
07:22<floriansiegert>hi andreas
07:22<andreaskuerten>moin
07:22<benbast_>was macht ihr so?
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07:22<floriansiegert>wie gehts
07:22<andreaskuerten>lol
07:22<alexheck>wusste ihr das mann kein acc teile kann
07:22<floriansiegert>wer ist vicamo
07:22<andreaskuerten>??
07:22<benbast_>loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
07:22<andreaskuerten>exit
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07:22<floriansiegert>hääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääääää
07:23<benbast_>freud ihr euch auf kunst?
07:23<benbast_>freud ihr euch auf kunst?
07:23<benbast_>loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
07:23<benbast_>t
07:23-!-mode/#debian [+o jm_] by ChanServ
07:23<benbast_>freud ihr euch auf kunst?
07:23<floriansiegert>neee
07:23<benbast_>loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
07:23-!-mode/#debian [+b *!*benbast@*.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] by jm_
07:23<floriansiegert>nee
07:23-!-mode/#debian [+b *!*floriansi@*.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] by jm_
07:24<alexheck>bn
07:24<alexheck>Was soll das
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07:24<andreaskuerten>moin
07:25<@jm_>now please speak english and remember, this is only for help with debian stable, use other channel for off-topic discussions
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07:25<alexheck>NOOOOOOO
07:25<alexheck>You are scheiße
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07:26<kblin>that's the downside of having IRC clients that autoconnect to #debian
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07:27<musca>i don't think they were using debian at all.
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08:14<zhanshan>hi
08:14<zhanshan>which tools do you prefer for defragmentation? e2fsprogs, defragfs or something else?
08:15<jm_>I don't do any defrag at all
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08:16<somiaj>zhanshan: provided you have enough of your disk reserved (check tune2fs for reserved perecentage) and your drive is not close to being full, fragementation should not be a problem.
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08:17<planetmaker>defrag... last done more than a decade ago on windows. Not ever since
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08:19<somiaj>ext2/3/4 file systems can get fragmented. But this won't happen unless the filessystem is almost full and doesn't have enough reserved space.
08:19<somiaj>(well for the most part, sure other things can cause fragmentation)
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08:24<zhanshan>pls see https://paste.debian.net/335974/
08:25<somiaj>zhanshan: what file system is this? Is it getting full? What amount of reserved space does it have?
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08:28<somiaj>I personally haven't had to deal with fragmented systems on ext2/3/4 filesystems. So I'm unsure the best tools to use if you get a fragmented file system.
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08:31<zhanshan>somiaj it's ext4 and yes, from time to time it got very full
08:31<zhanshan>and it's more than 5 years old
08:31<zhanshan>so I think in this case, if the disk got full in the past from time to time, it's not a bad idea to do this still...
08:32<zhanshan>the better if you keep minimum 5gb free of all hard disks strictly I guess?
08:32<somiaj>zhanshan: I'd say use what ever tool is in the debian repo (or migrate to a new filesystem)
08:32<somiaj>zhanshan: it isn't about keeping the disk free, it is about the amount of reserved blocks
08:32<somiaj>by default this should be 5%, but some people turn that down on large partitions because 5% can be a good amount of space and people want mroe space
08:32<somiaj>but this resreved space is for doing things like keeping stuff from getting fragmented.
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08:33<somiaj>zhanshan: so just ensure on drives that get full but have lots of file changes you have enough space reserved for root.
08:34<somiaj>zhanshan: and this shoudln't happen, but there is no guarntee. If there isn't place to put a file in a continous fashion on the current file system they will fragment.
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08:36<zhanshan>somiaj: thanks, but I don't know how to reserve space for root?
08:36<somiaj>zhanshan: it happens automatically. man tune2fs
08:37<somiaj>search for reserved-blocks-percentage
08:37<somiaj>by default this should be 5%
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08:41<zhanshan>hmm
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08:43<zhanshan>somiaj so is there a command I can run on every harddisk to check them?
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08:48<somiaj>zhanshan: dumpe2fs will dump all the info about the file system. There should be a 'Block count' and 'Reserved block count', the ratio of those two is the percentage.
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08:57<zhanshan>somiaj: https://paste.debian.net/335980/
08:57<zhanshan>what does that msg mean?
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08:59*bittin_ at work atm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbyYGrswtg
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09:02<somiaj>zhanshan: that is the mount point. Dump the actual device, so lik /dev/sdb2 or what ever the actual device mounted at that point is
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09:10<Celelibi>Why has no one told me there were a xorg-server-legacy package? And why isn't it installed by default?
09:10<Celelibi>systemd is evil!
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09:13<zhanshan>thanks somiaj
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09:45<zhanshan>somiaj: https://paste.debian.net/335985/
09:45<zhanshan>so it looks like about 5%
09:47<somiaj>zhanshan: that is default. I'm surprised it got fragmented. But it could be the types of files and how you use it.
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09:47<somiaj>zhanshan: I'm also unsure if it is best to try to defrag it, or maybe just create a new file system and copy the files over.
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09:52<zhanshan>somiaj: yeah I read about that in that article https://www.maketecheasier.com/defragment-linux/
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09:52<zhanshan>thanks somiaj I gotta go for now, have a beautiful day!
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12:56<timmc>I recently upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie and lost sound mixing (now only one application can play sound at a time.)
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12:57<timmc>I didn't see any package removals that seemed relevant, and I don't recall doing any audio configuration on this computer since I initially set it up.
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12:59<timmc>Relevant installed packages: oss-compat, alsa-base, alsa-utils, and gstreamer0.10-alsa (and I guess some pulseaudio libs)
12:59<TheSuperGeek>Hello, i've got a problem with migrating from stable to testing
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13:00<musca>TheSuperGeek: may be you'd like to ask in #debian-next (see topic)?
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13:01<TheSuperGeek>Ok
13:01<ary> hi, how do i install a package from stretch source repos?
13:01<musca>!ssb
13:01<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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13:01<TheSuperGeek>Thanks.
13:02<arb_agar>can any one tell me how to repair a usb flash drive
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13:03<mtn_>arb_agar, glue? tape?
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13:05<skylvolker>what do you want repair on usb flash?
13:06<skylvolker>how you have break your usb flash?
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13:07<arb_agar>mtn: It cant be read
13:07<arb_agar>skylovlker: I want make it readable again
13:07<mtn_>arb_agar, did you try reformatting it?
13:08<skylvolker>maybe have data on?
13:08<arb_agar>mtn: yes i did
13:08<mtn_>arb_agar, and...?
13:08<arb_agar>mtn: didnt work
13:08<skylvolker>how you have reformated?
13:08<arb_agar>its says it cant be foramted
13:08<mtn_>heh: "didnt' work"
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13:09<arb_agar>skylvolker: I tried it using diskpart
13:09<skylvolker>ok ok...
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13:09<arb_agar>skylvolker: it didnt work
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13:11<arb_agar>skylvolker: is there a way to hard reset it
13:12<TheSuperGeek>Bye
13:12<skylvolker>arb_agar: me i use fsdisk
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13:12<skylvolker>arb_agar: for create pagination
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13:12<skylvolker>and after created with size and type
13:12<blast007>arb_agar: what does the dmesg command say about that device after you plug it in?
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13:13<skylvolker>i use mkfs.<your_type> for finishing reformating.
13:13<skylvolker>arb_agar: you can try this way....
13:13<skylvolker>arb_agar: at home... it's work
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13:14<arb_agar>blast007: it only shows that its connected and type of the usb
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13:14<blast007>arb_agar: Let's see if it shows up in 'sudo fdisk -l'. Do you see the device listed in that output? (not that -l is a lowercase L)
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13:15<arb_agar>skylvolker: you mean fsdisk
13:15<blast007>note*
13:15<skylvolker>arb_agar: yes sorry
13:15<skylvolker>arb_agar: it work for me...
13:16<arb_agar>blast007: its not showing
13:16<skylvolker>arb_agar: you need to unmount all part of usb
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13:16<arb_agar>skylvolker:I'll give it a try
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13:17<arb_agar>blast007: sorry.. its showing
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13:17<skylvolker>arb_agar: and mount the root
13:18<skylvolker>arb_agar: after on the fdisk you can resize or move partition
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13:18<skylvolker>arb_agar: and when you have create the part with the type, you choose the mkfs.<type_pick> program
13:19<skylvolker>arb_agar: and normaly work
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13:20<arb_agar>skylvolker:I'm unable to mount it
13:21<blast007>what does it say when you try?
13:21<skylvolker>arb_agar: can you see your device on cmd "lsblk"?
13:22<arb_agar>skylvolker: yes I can
13:22<skylvolker>arb_agar: what is name?
13:22<arb_agar>skylvolker:sdb
13:22<skylvolker>arb_agar: ok ok
13:22<arb_agar>skylvolker:sdb1
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13:23<skylvolker>arb_agar: have it a mountpoint?
13:23<skylvolker>arb_agar: on sdb1
13:23<arb_agar>skylvolker:how do I do that
13:23<skylvolker>arb_agar: the last column
13:24<skylvolker>arb_agar: if is empty it's great
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13:25<skylvolker>arb_agar: are you still here?
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13:25<arb_agar>skylvolker: get this. when I try fdisk /dev/sdb1 its saying read only file system
13:26<skylvolker>arb_agar: because you need to mount a disk, not partition
13:26<skylvolker>arb_agar: the /dev/sdb1 is partition... /dev/sdb is disk
13:27<arb_agar>skylvolker: the lsblk is tell me there is 1 partition
13:27<skylvolker>arb_agar: try cmd = "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb"
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13:28<skylvolker>arb_agar: if you are sure sdb is your usb device
13:29<arb_agar>skylvolker: yes
13:29<skylvolker>arb_agar: so it's work?
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13:30<arb_agar>skylvolker: its saying no file or directory
13:31<skylvolker>arb_agar: you have write "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb"?
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13:31<arb_agar>skylvolker: yes I did
13:31<arb_agar>skylvolker: what I cant figure out is the cmd lsblk is showing the disk sdb and sdb1 part
13:32<skylvolker>arb_agar: can you remove your usb device "physical" and replug
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13:33<arb_agar>skylvolker: now cmd fdisk /dev/sdb is saying read only file system
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13:34<skylvolker>arb_agar: can you pastebin the cmd dmesg | tail
13:34<blast007>!paste
13:34<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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13:34<timmc>How do I get sound mixing in Jessie? (multiple applications playing audio at once)
13:34<skylvolker>arb_agar: $ dmesg | tail
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13:39<arb_agar>skylvolker: one more thing it is also syaing write protection is on
13:41<arb_agar>skylvolker: may be that's the problem....
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13:43<skylvolker>arb_agar: i don't know.....
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13:43<skylvolker>arb_agar: i recome in 20 min... i go eat...
13:43<somiaj>timmc: dmix should be configured by default unless you use a custom .asoundrc and turn it off. pulseaudio is the common method most desktops use.
13:43<arb_agar>skylvolker: ok. 10x for the help
13:44<somiaj>arb_agar: what file system did you put on the usb? Is this am image from the debian installer?
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13:46<arb_agar>somiaj: the file system was originally ntfs
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13:46<somiaj>arb_agar: what do you mean originally? You mean it still is? Are you using the kernel ntfs driver or the ntfs-3g driver?
13:47<arb_agar>somiaj: yes it still is. I'm using the kernel ntfs dirver
13:48<somiaj>arb_agar: by default the ntfs driver in the kernel has write protection turned off (it has been known to destory the file system)
13:48<somiaj>arb_agar: install the package ntfs-3g and use the ntfs-3g file system over FUES and you can get write support.
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13:49<timmc>somiaj: Is this new in jessie?
13:50<arb_agar>somiaj: i'v installed the ntfs-3g and no change
13:50<timmc>Also... I don't see a dmix package? And /usr/share/doc/libasound2/examples/asound.conf_dmix doesn't exist.
13:50<timmc>(Just going based on https://wiki.debian.org/ALSA)
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13:51<blast007>arb_agar: how did you try mounting it after you installed ntfs-3g?
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13:51<somiaj>timmc: no dmix is not a package, it is a plugin for alsa. It should be enabled by default in the configs
13:52<somiaj>timmc: it use to be you had to enable it, now it should be neabled by default
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13:52<arb_agar>somiaj: mount /dev/sdb1
13:53<somiaj>arb_agar: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mount/point
13:53<somiaj>add -o options if needed (I ususallys et teh uid and gid)
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13:58<arb_agar>somiaj: its saying "/dev/sdb1 doesnt seem to have a valid ntfs
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14:03<timmc>somiaj: I don't even have an .asoundrc
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14:04<somiaj>timmc: Any reason you want to stick to alsa? Would pulse suit your needs?
14:05<timmc>No idea!
14:05<timmc>All I know is that it Just Worked in wheezy and that something broke during the upgrade.
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14:05<somiaj>timmc: did you have a system /etc/asound.conf file?
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14:05<somiaj>timmc: what desktop do you use?
14:06<timmc>I don't know whether switching to pulse would be more work, I don't know whether it would break the panel plugin that lets me adjust volume, etc.
14:06<timmc>XFCE
14:06<timmc>No /etc/asound.conf
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14:06<somiaj>timmc: ps fax | grep pulse and 'dpkg -l | grep pulse'
14:06<somiaj>timmc: is pulseaudio running or installed?
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14:07<somiaj>timmc: I'm just checking to see if you upgrade with xfce pulled in pulse or not.
14:07<timmc>Not running, and I see libpulse-mainloop-glib0:amd64 libpulse0:amd64 libpulse0:i386 vlc-plugin-pulse
14:08<somiaj>timmc: you only have one sound card? 'cat /proc/asound/cards', and sound card 0 is the one you are trying to use?
14:08<somiaj>timmc: I don't see why dmix was working in wheezy but is now not working in jessie. I personally just use a card with hardware mixing so I don't have these issues, but dmix in alsa is supose to provide software mixing.
14:09<timmc>Sound card 0 is "HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH" and is the one I see in various applications.
14:09<timmc>There's also 29 which is "ThinkPad EC - ThinkPad Console Audio Control" but I don't know what that is.
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14:11<somiaj>timmc: I don't know what is best. I'm unsure why dmix is not working by default and weitehr or not switching to pulseaudio would fit your needs.
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14:11<timmc>It's all very mysterious.
14:12<timmc>Thanks for taking a look! I appreciate it.
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14:13<Brigo>timmc, try this: http://www.ocsmag.com/2015/09/25/cli-quickies-ii-fiddling-with-sound/
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14:15<timmc>Brigo: The problem is that I still have sound, but have lost mixing.
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14:17<Zinov>https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2015/11/msg00034.html
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14:17<Zinov>No response to that email so far.
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14:18<somiaj>Zinov: unsure what to do or where would be best to get attention for debian-legal.
14:19<timmc>Ugh, ISO. Thos closed standards are infuriating.
14:20<cat>meow
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14:37<skylvolker>arb_agar: so you try to make an ntfs?
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14:38<skylvolker>arb_agar: why you don't go on windows.... xD
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14:40<arb_agar>skylvolker: I tried windows. I was unable to remove the write protection
14:40<skylvolker>arb_agar: linux can remove this... if you want formate
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14:41<arb_agar>skylvolker: I tried the hdparm cmd
14:41<skylvolker>arb_agar: did you pastebin the cmd $ dmesg | tail
14:41<arb_agar>it sayid the write protection is off but still the same problem
14:42<somiaj>arb_agar: what is the file system. Doesn't seem like it is ntfs. Is it an iso file system (cd image). These are always read only
14:42<skylvolker>arb_agar: and on usb ntfs... first time i see this...
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14:43<skylvolker>arb_agar: most time on usb is FAT32 or ExFAT
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14:43<arb_agar>somiaj: yes, the file system is ntfs
14:43<somiaj>skylvolker: no reason it can't be ntfs, and I see plenty of usb drives with ntfs file systems on them.
14:44<skylvolker>arb_agar: it's weird
14:44<somiaj>arb_agar: well the last error you printed said you don't have valid ntfs headers on the file system you were trying to mount. So the evidence I see is it isn't ntfs, or you were mounting the wrong partition.
14:44<arb_agar>skylvolker: i used ntfs so that i can have files with more than 4 GB of siez in one file
14:45<skylvolker>arb_agar: i know this problem
14:45<skylvolker>arb_agar: exFat can have more of 4 GB
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14:45<skylvolker>arb_agar: ntfs is for hard drive on window
14:46<somiaj>there is nothing wrong with ntfs on a usb drive. But either the headers for the ntfs file system are damaged or something else if it is being mounted as read only.
14:46<somiaj>and the only real way to check an ntfs file system for errors is from a windows machine. There is no chdsk that is worth using for ntfs in linux
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14:47<somiaj>Note some usb drives have a hardawre readonly switch that can cause issues as well. But the fact that the command you ran when trying to mount the drive with ntfs-3g said you don't have vaild ntfs headers makes me wonder what file system is on the device you were trying to mount.
14:48<arb_agar>somiaj: the thing is tho I cant find any solution even in windows. thats why I'm here for your help in the first place. coz I cant find any solution
14:50<skylvolker>arb_agar: if you're problem is just "you want usb key able to stock file size more 4 GB" the solution is not making ntfs key, the solution is make extended VFAT!
14:50<somiaj>arb_agar: if it is an ntfs file system that is broken, getting windows support and working with it in windows is the best bet.
14:51<skylvolker>arb_agar: because ntfs is strongly depend of window!
14:51<somiaj>arb_agar: if the filesystem can be read and you can get the data off of it, can you copy the file elsewhere, and just recreate the filesystem.
14:52<somiaj>skylvolker: the extend FAT support in linux isn't much better than ntfs support. I doubt the issue is ntfs on a usb drive. His filesystem is damaged (espically if windows can't fix it)
14:52<skylvolker>arb_agar: yes on windows maybe or try to use ntfs-3g for rescue
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14:53<skylvolker>just install ntfs-3g can, possible, save your problem.... do you have tried it?
14:54<arb_agar>skylvolker: yep. somiaj mentioned it....... still didnt work
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14:56<arb_agar>somiaj: if it helps.... it is also saying "NTFS signature is missing"
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14:56<somiaj>arb_agar: again linux tools for ntfs are not complete and only provide the basic read/write support. There are no tools to fix a broken ntfs file system (except for very very simple problems).
14:56<skylvolker>arb_agar: ntfs-3g is installed? and not work... i don't know for linux solution....
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14:57<somiaj>arb_agar: if you want to recover this filesystem, you need to get support from microsoft or other windows support channels (maybe ##windows on irc.freenode.net)
14:57<somiaj>arb_agar: if windows is unable to write to this filesystem or fix it there is nothign linux can do. Linux tools for the pripority ntfs filesystem only provide very basic functionality, and wno't help fix it.
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14:58<somiaj>arb_agar: chkdsk in windows may help. If not you may need to just get the data off this filesystem and create a new one from scratch. Either way this is not the best place for support on fixing a broken ntfs filesystem.
14:58<arb_agar>ok. 10x guys. I really appreciate for ur help
14:58<skylvolker>somiaj: so i said ntfs on usb is bad....
14:58<somiaj>all we cna do is point you to ntfs-3g and say, this is how you read/write to it in linux
14:58<skylvolker>somiaj: is the reason....
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15:27<Yatekii>guys I have a broken clamav....now wether I try to remove, remove ¨¨purge, install oder dpkg-reconfigure it, it always tells me it's broken and not configured and I should do that. even if I edit the conf it doesnt work ....what should I do? :S
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15:35<amacater>download the clamav .deb , move it to /tmp, change to /tmp and run dpkg -i ./*deb
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15:39<Yatekii>amacater: how do I download it manually? :S
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15:44<amacater>Go to a Debian mirror and dig for it - ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/clamav/clamav-base_0.98.7+dfsg-4_all.deb might be a start as that's the clamav directory on pool
15:45<somiaj>!bat
15:45<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: 1. the complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude/dselect run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2..." for the relevant packages and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
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15:45<somiaj>Yatekii: some better output of your system and errors would help.
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15:49<Yatekii>kk will deliver soon
15:49<Yatekii>I am struggling :D
15:49<Yatekii>main system broken
15:49<Yatekii>server broken
15:49<Yatekii>nothing runs :D
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15:50<abrotman>Yatekii: put it in a pastebin, show us
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19:03-!-Yst is "Yst Dawson" on #tor #debian #
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19:17<click99> /server irc.blackhatworld.com
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19:25<twb>Does DisplayPort Just WorkTM in jessie (and wheezy)?
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19:25<twb>I don't have a test unit yet, but $boss wants to get a new batch with that instead of HDMI or DVI-D
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19:40<mario>hi
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19:41<mario>dondelecaro
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19:42<mario>que pasa
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20:59<twb>Can I have comments in a /usr/share/pam-config/ file?
21:00<twb>AARGH
21:01<twb>It's reading backup files
21:01<twb>http://sprunge.us/FXbP
21:01<twb>Whoever wrote that script must be a terrorist
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21:17<twb>"bts show src:pam" is depressing.
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21:43<jaccob>I did apt-get purge mysql-server, and also deleted /etc/mysql and /var/lib/mysql directories, then I did apt-get install mysql, and it didn't recreate those directories or promp for root password
21:43<twb>Those sound like different packages
21:43<twb>mysql-server vs. mysql
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21:45<jaccob>there is not mysql package, just mysql-server mysql-client which auto installs with mysql-server
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21:47<jaccob>gotta do autoremove, also service mysql stop
21:47<twb>Well the answers get remembered in debconf and maybe purge isn't throwing them away
21:47<twb>I'm not sure how to remove them, but see debconf-set-selections
21:47<twb>debconf-get-selections is in debconf-utils IIRC
21:47<jaccob>yeah purge doesn't delete those directories
21:48<twb>Also obviously dpkg-reconfigure
21:48-!-mode/#debian [+l 729] by debhelper
21:48<jaccob>think maybe it is safe to delete tjem manually
21:48<jaccob>twb, yeah true, good call, thx
21:48<somiaj>are you just trying to reset the mysql root password?
21:48<somiaj>https://www.debian-administration.org/article/442/Resetting_a_forgotten_MySQL_root_password
21:48<jaccob>somiaj, no, I just want a fresh install cause I copied from back up some old mysql databases and configs and I think they are in bad shape
21:49<jaccob>I know how to recover root though, thx just the same
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21:49<jaccob>--skip-grant-tables
21:51<jaccob>What is package name for the dialog program that dpkg-reconfigure uses?
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21:51<twb>whiptail
21:52<jaccob>twb
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21:57<somiaj>jaccob: Okay, just checking. You may want to look at --confmiss (if you deleted any config files they won't be regnerated)
21:57<somiaj>!confmiss
21:57<dpkg>You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>.
21:57<jaccob>somiaj, wow, thx so much
21:57<somiaj>jaccob: think you may need the mysql-common package with that.
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21:58<jaccob>aptitude -o --force-confmis reinstall mysql-server, and again for mysql-common?
21:58<jaccob>with 2ss
22:00<somiaj>jaccob: you are missing the DPkg::Options::='foo' (these are dpkg options)
22:01<jaccob>somiaj, thx
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22:01<somiaj>unsure if this will regernate the part the istall script asks for the root password. But it should regenerate any deleted config files
22:02<somiaj>there is also --force-confnew to make it use the new config, but since you ran a --purge this shouldn't be nesacary
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22:03<jaccob>somiaj, thx a million
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22:04<jaccob>dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server just returns, doesn't do anything
22:04<somiaj>mysql-common is the package that has the config files I belive
22:04<somiaj>well might depend on the config file
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22:05<jaccob>I ran mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables, and it hangs the terminal as expected but I can't stop using CTRL+C
22:05<somiaj>but anyways I don't think debconf is what is used for asking for the root password and generating the initial database.
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22:44<qi>hello, i install nam on debian8.2,when run it in the terimal,but says nam:
22:44<qi>[code omitted because of length]
22:44<qi>: version conflict for package "Tcl": have 8.5.17, need 8.6
22:44<qi> while executing
22:44<qi>"package require Tcl 8.6"
22:44-!-qi was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
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22:46<qi>hello
22:47<qi>i install nam on debian8.2,when run it in the terimal,but says nam:
22:47<qi><qi> [code omitted because of length]
22:47<qi><qi> : version conflict for package "Tcl": have 8.5.17, need 8.6<qi> while executing<qi> "package require Tcl 8.6"
22:47<qi>how to solve this problem
22:48<qi>3Q
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22:50<qi>It's a bug?
22:50<somiaj>qi: what tcl do you have installed? I see 8.6 in jessie.
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22:50<somiaj>,v tcl8.5
22:50<judd>Package: tcl8.5 on amd64 -- squeeze: 8.5.8-2; wheezy: 8.5.11-2; jessie: 8.5.17-1; sid: 8.5.18-2; stretch: 8.5.18-2
22:50<somiaj>,v tcl8.6
22:50<judd>Package: tcl8.6 on amd64 -- jessie: 8.6.2+dfsg-2; stretch: 8.6.4+dfsg-2; sid: 8.6.4+dfsg-2
22:50<somiaj>qi: seems you just have tcl8.5 installed instead of tcl8.6
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22:52<qi> i use the softwarecentor to install the software.when it finished,i found it use the tcl8.5
22:52<qi>need to reinstall the software?
22:53<somiaj>well seems you now have software that requires 8.6. Unsure if you can get them to play nicely or not.
22:53<dvs>softwarecenter!?!
22:56<qi>3Q
22:56<qi>i will reinstall the software
22:57<jaccob>perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
22:58<somiaj>jaccob: make sure you have the package locales installed and then dpkg-reconfigure locales to select which ones to generate and the defalt.
22:59<jaccob>I just rant locale-gen, I think that fixed it, I will know in moment
22:59<jaccob>nope, it is still...
23:00<jaccob>somiaj, you think if locales isn't set correctly mysql will install messed up?
23:01<somiaj>I don't think so.
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23:02<jaccob>I am in Canada, should I chose ... I chose all en_CA and en_US ones.
23:02<jaccob>en_CA default
23:03<jaccob>somiaj, thx again
23:03<somiaj>anyone you think you will use.
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23:17<jaccob>if anyone here recall how I mentioned about problem with my email from exim server going to spam when I email out to a gmail account. You know what, that was cause my domain name didn't match my email server name, now that I am using the same name, email server name = domain name, gmail isn't marking it as spam.
23:19<jaccob>mutt says /var/mail/myusername: No such file or directory (errno = 2).
23:20<jaccob>so I have mail sent to me but it is in hiatus on my system somewhere/spool
23:21<somiaj>jaccob: look in /var/spool/mail/ and once you find it point mtt at it
23:22<jaccob>somiaj, thx
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