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---Logopened Tue Dec 01 00:00:58 2015
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00:42<join240j>hello, any one can help me, up wifi on debian 7?
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00:56<join240j>hello, any one can help me, up wifi on debian 7?
00:59<jm_>!wifi
00:59<dpkg>Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
01:00<join240j>wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn ESSID:off/any
01:01<join240j>Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated Tx-Power=20 dBm
01:01<nevyn>join240j: really no ask dpkg about 'what's my wireless'
01:03<join240j>Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n
01:03<nevyn>!atheros
01:03<dpkg>Qualcomm Atheros is a developer of semiconductors. For support of PCI/PCIe wireless LAN devices with an Atheros chipset, ask me about <ath9k>, <ath5k>. For USB wireless LAN device support, ask me about <ath9k_htc>, <carl9170>, <ar5523>. For Ethernet driver information, see <atl1c>, <alx>, <atl2>, <atl1e>, <atl1>. For Bluetooth device support, see <ath3k>. http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/Atheros
01:04<join240j>i have firmware but not undestand how start in console
01:04<jm_>the wifi wiki page explains various methods to configure your wifi device
01:05<join240j>all wiki read but not undestand why at my system not work
01:05<join240j>at other system all okay
01:05<join240j>i try at other systems
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01:06<join240j>sudo iwlist scan work
01:07<join240j>but cant conect( dont undestand
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01:10<encfs>How do I generate the hooks for the modules I've loaded into the kernel
01:10<encfs>I'm trying to boot from btrfs subvolumes
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01:11<encfs>so I loaded modules(btrfs,zlib-deflate,libcrc32c,crc32c) in the kernel... so I also I have to generate the hooks I need
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01:18<encfs>How do I get the btrfs hook in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks
01:18<encfs>?
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04:18<`gar>sorry for asking this but can any one tell me for kali chanel
04:18<towo^work>!kali
04:18<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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04:43<jeeger>Greetings! I have a problem with ntfs-3g in jessie. Mount works ok (mount -t ntfs etc), but when I try to access the mounted drive, I just get an IO error. Any help?
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04:48<jeeger>The stick works on other Linux, and the error is only if I mount it in one specific directory via fstab.
04:49<jm_>try checking kernel messages when this happens
04:50<jeeger>jm_: No kernel message.
04:51<jm_>how did you verify that?
04:51<jeeger>jm_: dmesg. Or how do you mean?
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04:51<jm_>jeeger: yeah I was thinking of that
04:53<jeeger>My fstab line is this: /dev/disk/by-uuid/2583DD714D44BA86 /media/cryptstick ntfs-3g defaults,ro,noauto 0 0. Are the options incorrect?
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04:53<abandonedlemming>hey
04:53<jm_>looks pretty straightforward
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05:01<jeeger>Dagnabbit this is frustrating.
05:01<abandonedlemming>@jeeger whats up?
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05:03<jeeger>abandonedlemming: ntfs-3g volume gives me IO error when mounted via fstab, but works fine when mounted manually (mount -t ntfs...)
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05:12<aborrero>how do you convince managers to use Debian in data centers? specifically versus commercial solutions with 'support'
05:12<aborrero>is there any good blog or article may I read about this issue?
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05:37<Zhaofeng_Li>aborrero: https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian maybe?
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05:38<Ayame>hola
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05:39<Ayame>hello*
05:39<musca>hello Ayame
05:40<Ayame>all good?
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05:42<duclicsic>aborrero: every time I've ever tried to use the "support" that comes with many of these commercial products (e.g. network hardware vendors), they always say "yeah that's a bug, upgrade to this latest bleeding edge release of our firmware on your live kit pls"
05:42<jeeger>Hooray, got it to work by installing ntfs-3g from testing.
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06:08<EmleyMoor>I have ssh attempts going on from an IP already blocked in iptables/ipset... how can this happen?
06:09<jm_>wrong rule?
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06:10<EmleyMoor>jm_: No, not wrong rule.
06:10<jm_>EmleyMoor: then something else allows it before that one
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06:11<EmleyMoor>It's not traffic from my LAN and shouldn't be return traffic...
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06:13<EmleyMoor>It defies explanation
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06:15<EmleyMoor>There isn't a maximum operable size for a list in ipset is there?
06:16<EmleyMoor>I could be mistaken about when I added it, actually...
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06:22<EmleyMoor>That was it, old log mails...
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06:35<thewrongreasons>ello
06:35<thewrongreasons>i have the weirdest problem during installation
06:35<thewrongreasons>anyone interested?
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06:45<babilen>dpkg: anyone
06:45<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
06:45<babilen>thewrongreasons: ^
06:46<thewrongreasons><ask>
06:46<thewrongreasons>wut
06:46<thewrongreasons>okay, my bad
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06:46<thewrongreasons>so i started the installer from usb. at the "detect disks" step the usb drive is detected as /dev/sda and the harddisk as /dev/sdb
06:47<jm_><ask> means to ask dpkg about that, so /msg dpkg ask or /msg dpkg ask to ask
06:47<jm_>without <>
06:47<jm_>but go on
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06:48<thewrongreasons>if i proceed with the installation the system won't start b/c after a reboot the hd will be detected as /dev/sda
06:48<babilen>It should reference that by UUID
06:50<jm_>yeah that should not be a problem - have you told it to install grub on MBR?
06:50<thewrongreasons>yes
06:50<babilen>And you actually experience that problem right now or are you simply assuming that you would?
06:50<thewrongreasons>i am experiencing it as we speak
06:50<babilen>And then: What is the problem exactly?
06:51<thewrongreasons>if i go through with the installation the finished system won't start
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06:51<thewrongreasons>tried
06:51<jm_>surely you get a rescue shell if it can't mount /
06:51<thewrongreasons>doesn't work
06:51<duclicsic>thewrongreasons: this is a debian 8 installer right?
06:51<babilen>What is the precise error you get? At which point in the boot process do you run into it, thewrongreasons ?
06:51<thewrongreasons>duclisic: it's the mini.iso
06:52<babilen>mini.iso ?
06:52<babilen>So you didn't use a "normal" installer (e.g. netinstall) and wrote that to the USB?
06:52<thewrongreasons>babilen: it boots up to the point when it tries to decrypt an encrypted partition
06:52<babilen>Either way: It shouldn't be too hard to fix this.
06:52<thewrongreasons>i should hope so
06:53<babilen>Okay, so your crypttab contains a reference to /dev/sdb ?
06:53<thewrongreasons>no, i didn't use netinst. I used the minimal installer.
06:54<babilen>The netinst *is* the small installer
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06:54<thewrongreasons>the <40MB one?
06:55<babilen>Do you have a link to the installer you used?
06:56<thewrongreasons>babilen: give me a sec to look it up
06:57<thewrongreasons>babilen: i got it from a debian mirror
06:57<thewrongreasons>under this path: debian/dists/unstable/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
06:58<babilen>I'm not supporting that and you shouldn't use that to install from USB. That is an unstable installer and also one meant to be used when installing via PXE
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06:59<thewrongreasons>fair enough
06:59<babilen>Use http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ or http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/ like everybody else
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06:59<LEOXD>dfd
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06:59<thewrongreasons>seems to be the easiest way to install sid though
06:59<LEOXD>fdsd
06:59<LEOXD>df
06:59<LEOXD>d
06:59<LEOXD>d
06:59<LEOXD>d
06:59<LEOXD>d
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07:00<Elias>xd
07:00<Elias>lol
07:00<Elias>xD
07:00<Elias>d
07:00<Elias>s
07:00<Elias>s
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07:01<babilen>thewrongreasons: It is not as it will often not work. The best to install unstable is to install jessie, upgrade that to stretch and then take it from there
07:01<thewrongreasons>i see
07:02<thewrongreasons>i guess i will try to edit fstab/crypttab by hand
07:02<thewrongreasons>and use your method if that doesn't work
07:02<thewrongreasons>thanks for your help
07:02<babilen>thewrongreasons: But then, chroot into your system, adjust /etc/crypttab, /etc/fstab and reinstall/reconfigure grub (update-grub2, grub-install /dev/sda) and see if that helps. The output of "blkid" would probably come in handy.
07:03<thewrongreasons>will do
07:03<thewrongreasons>thx
07:03<babilen>Make sure to install apt-{listbugs,listchanges} too. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable contains a couple of other tips
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07:06<Elias>listo
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07:06<LEOXD>hola
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07:06<Lauty>ELIAS :d
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07:07<Elias>holaaaa
07:07<Lauty>ES VEGETTA XD
07:07<Lauty>xD
07:07<Elias>xD
07:07<Lauty>ola
07:07<LEOXD>jajajXD
07:07<Elias>xd
07:07<LEOXD>responde
07:07<Lauty>xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
07:08<Lauty>ZOY BEJETS
07:08<LEOXD>LOLT-T
07:08<Lauty>U.U
07:08<Elias>que hacen?:v
07:08<Lauty>:V
07:08<Elias>-.-
07:08<jm_>please stop
07:08<Elias>xD
07:08<LEOXD>jugando a maincraftt
07:08<Lauty>COMO que estamos forever alones xD
07:08<Lauty>-.-
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07:08<Lauty>.-.
07:08<Lauty>.-.-.-.
07:08<Lauty>._____.
07:08<LEOXD>hla
07:08<Lauty>ratas
07:08<@jm_>speak english and stick to debian related topics, last warning
07:08<Elias>.-----.
07:08<Lauty>inmundis
07:08<Lauty>inmundos
07:08<Elias>ok
07:09<LEOXD>ok tu prima
07:09<Lauty>tu tia
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07:09<Elias>you are admin?
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07:21<vermin>hehe ops :)
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07:31<david_>Hello. I have lvm physical partition and about 30GB of unallocated space BEFORE it. Is it possible to extend the lvm partition to fully use the preceding space?
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07:32<kracks>bonour peut-on parlé français ici??
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07:33<lostson>!fr
07:33<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
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07:34<kracks>thx
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07:37<Gabriel_7>david_,You can 1) create a new 30GiB partition, 2) add it to the VG, 3) lvextend the LV.
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07:38<david_>Gabriel_7: got any links to follow?
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07:40<Gabriel_7>david_, no I don't.
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07:45<david_>Gabriel_7: I actually am almost done. I managed to add the partition to the virtual group
07:45<david_>now i need to expand the lv
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07:53<david_>perfect everything worked out
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10:38<canaima>hola
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13:27<bremner>I have a fresh 8.2 install on an asus zenbook. It got to the rebooting stage of the install, and fails looking for the root device. It's lvm on luks standard install. I didn't get prompted to unlock the encrypted device. It seend to run /scripts/local-block about a dozen times before giving up
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13:29<bremner>it's also missing module ehci-orion; I don't know if that's relevant to the root device; it shouldn't be
13:29<SynrGy>i recognize that as a common, spurious message
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13:30<SynrGy>otherwise, no idea about the other stuff. sorry
13:30<lindi->bremner: does it drop you to a shell? can you manually mount the rootfs from that shell?
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13:32<bremner>lindi-: I'm in initramfs. I don't see cryptsetup; not sure how to proceed without it.
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13:33<lindi->bremner: that could be part of the problem. my similar debian 7 setup has /sbin/cryptsetup
13:33<lindi->bremner: but don't have any rebootable debian 8 machines right now to check
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13:37<blast007>bremner: is your /boot partition encrypted?
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13:38<bremner>blast007: no. Or at least it shouldn't be.
13:38<lindi->blast007: it clearly isn't since the initramfs was loaded from there
13:38<blast007>k, I was assuming so, since it probably wouldn't even get as far as it did
13:40<bremner>hmm. in rescue mode I've opened /dev/mapper/sda3_crypt, but still no lvm
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13:43<bremner>well, maybe I'll just restart the install. perhaps I botched something.
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14:07<awal>I have several debian machines here, but one of them is dual booted debian/windows. Can windows sniff in may debian partitions?
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14:08<awal>my ^
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14:08<markybob>awal, sure if not encrypted. there are ext2/3/4 drivers for windows
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14:08<centrx>only if they smell bad
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14:09<awal>I have a standard installation, no encrypted, since systemd was causing problems with encrypted volumes
14:09<awal>centrx: what you mean?
14:10<awal>you mean the drivers?
14:10<centrx>"sniff"
14:10<markybob>awal, then yes, windows can access your linux partitions.
14:11<awal>for personal stuffs, I use a pure debian machine. but the dual booted one is for try things with debian, movies...
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14:12<awal>markybob: probably yeah
14:12<markybob>awal, not probably. definitely. i've done it
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14:13<awal>markybob: no doubt
14:14<awal>how one can feel secure having the bios non-free, anyway
14:14<awal>machines with all free (bios, drivers...) are so expensive
14:14<bremner>yes, there are always degrees of vulnerability. BIOS root kits don't excuse writing your root password on the outside of the machine
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14:18<zykotick9>awal: my machine's bios being liberated was captured on film http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/libreplanet-2015-highlights-and-what-comes-next
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14:21<bremner>mkay, so second install on the zenbook seems ok. Probably I messed something up when trying and failing to adjust the partition sizes
14:21<awal>My friend work in Algerian company in Sahara (sonatrach, algerian government petrolium company) and he said that government of Algeria gave them the orden to no use windows 10 because of security and sniffing issues
14:21<awal>order ^
14:21<awal>zykotick9, i'll look at that link :)
14:22<bremner>awal: that's great, but maybe more appropriate for #debian-offtopic
14:22<awal>bremner: :)
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14:28<bremner>I seem to be missing tap events completely on this zenbook. Any idea what to look at? motion events seem fine, and the buttons at the bottom of the pad are also ok
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14:29<bremner>tapping the touch screen also seems to work.
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14:30<bittin_>going to the US on Monday :)
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14:33<bremner>oh, nvm, gnome settings to the rescue.
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14:40<canaima>hola
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14:54<d4v1d__>what do these messages in dmesg mean? http://paste.debian.net/340356 It keeps repeating that. sdd is a usb drive with a single partition, formatted as fat32
14:54<d4v1d__>do those messages have a use, or can I ignore them
14:55<centrx>Is that the complete message excerpt?
14:55<centrx>Nothing in between those messages?
14:55<centrx>Seems meaningless/bizarre
14:55<d4v1d__>nope
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15:00<centrx>d4v1d__, speculating: could be the hard drive keeps disconnecting and reconnecting (e.g. hardware failure)
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15:02<d4v1d__>it's not showing all the things it does when I plug the usb drive in
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15:03<centrx>yeah it's weird
15:03<d4v1d__>http://paste.debian.net/340362/ that's plugging in, plugging out, plugging in
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15:04<d4v1d__>It's not really a problem for me (and not for linux and/or that usb drive.) I'm just curious. I can live with that happening
15:04<d4v1d__>(and not for linux and/or that usb drive I hope) **
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15:05<centrx>yeah I have some messages that repeat like that indicating some drive connector that I'm not using is broken, but they are more descriptive than just "sdd: sdd1"- that's meaningless
15:05<d4v1d__>yeh, could it be that's its because the usb stick was formatted or partiotioned in weird way?
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15:05<florolf>hi
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15:09<centrx>HI
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15:28<C-Otto>part
15:28<C-Otto>slash.
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16:13<bremner>anyone know what is needed for skylake graphics support on jessie? I've upgraded the intel video driver and kernel from backports (and installed firmware-misc-nonfree) but I'm still stuck in 1024x768 (it's a 1920x1080 panel)
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16:19<somiaj>bremner: Check the logs, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, to see what is being detected. If you share a copy at paste.debian.net I can look
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16:27<bremner>http://paste.debian.net/340387
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16:29<PovAddict>I have no audio on my laptop :(
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16:30<bremner>somiaj: missing /dev/dri/card0 looks not so good.
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16:31<PovAddict>the only thing that works is the 'beep' command
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16:31<PovAddict>(and it works regardless of volume settings, mute, etc)
16:31<mtn>PovAddict, Install and use pavucontrol. Check sound levels and devices in Output and Configuration tabs.
16:32<awal>PovAddict: which DE are you running?
16:32<bremner>"VGA compatible controller: Intel Device 1916" is pretty unconvincing output from lspci
16:32<PovAddict>Plasma 4, I don't have pulseaudio installed, and this was working some days ago
16:33<mtn>PovAddict, then use alsamixer to change settings and devices
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16:33<somiaj>bremner: do you have nodmodset?
16:34<PovAddict>I just grepped for pulseaudio in my apt logs to make sure I didn't have it before and uninstalled it accidentally
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16:34<bremner>somiaj: nope, just default kernel parameters
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16:34<PovAddict>well damn
16:34<mtn>PovAddict, headphones don't work either?
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16:35<somiaj>bremner: check dmesg, or lspci -vv, and try to figure out if you can see why the kernel module i915 isn't loading
16:35<PovAddict>mtn: PCM channel was on 0
16:35<PovAddict>>_<
16:35<mtn>PovAddict, :)
16:35<somiaj>bremner: it could be it just doesn't detect that paticular card yet. If you think that is the case you should se if you can figure out what kernel version supports that card, usually intel has some info on this
16:35<bremner>somiaj: arch wiki mentions kernel parameter i915_preliminary_hw_support=1
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16:36<bremner>worth a try, I guess
16:36<somiaj>bremner: yea that could be it as well
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16:37<somiaj>bremner: that sounds more like a config option though, module options look more like i915.
16:38<bremner>indeed, my typo
16:38<somiaj>yea modinfo shows that parameter.
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16:40<bremner>yep, that did it.
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16:41<bremner>somiaj: thanks for working through that with me.
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16:42<bremner>oops. now awake from suspend is not nice.
16:44<bremner>meh. teh interwebs suggest I might want kernel 4.3
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16:45<somiaj>might have to wait a bit for that to make it to jessie-backports if you don't want to try to compile your own
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16:46<bremner>will the 4.3 kernel from experimental install, I wonder?
16:47<somiaj>no, it is probabaly compiled for sid which is using new libs on gcc5
16:47<bremner>ah right. hmm.
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17:10<mpr_>Hello there, I'm having some issues with glx, running jessie, is this the right place to ask?
17:11<retrospectacus>mpr_: yes
17:11<mpr_>:D
17:11<mpr_>So, here's the thing
17:11<mpr_>I'm trying to run glxgears, but get: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
17:11<mpr_>cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep GLX gives me:
17:11<mpr_>[ 44.705] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 340.65 Tue Dec 2 09:10:06 PST 2014
17:11<mpr_>[ 45.353] (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
17:12<mpr_>lspci shows:
17:12*cat meows
17:12<mpr_>00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
17:12<mpr_>any ideas? I'm pretty lost by now :S
17:13<towo`>lspci | egrep -i "vga|3d|display"
17:13<towo`>sounds like an optimus system
17:13<blast007>!paste
17:13<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
17:14<mpr_>@towo`: the lspci line you asked for gives: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
17:14<mpr_>I'm sorry, I don't know what an optimus system is :S
17:14<towo`>mpr_, then why you have an nvidia driver installed?
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17:14<towo`>mpr_, you have intel graphics
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17:14<mpr_>@towo`: I wish I knew
17:15<Guest10497>hi
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17:15<mpr_>@towo`: any ideas how I can fix that? :S
17:15<towo`>mpr_, since debian does not ship this driver, it can only be you, who have installed that driver
17:15<Guest10497>is knoppix supported here }
17:15<towo`>no
17:15<Guest10497>oh dear
17:15<towo`>mpr_, dpkg -l | grep nvidia
17:15<mpr_>@towo`: oh... ok, I don't remember installing it
17:16<mpr_>@towo`: that returns quite a list of packages
17:16<mpr_>@towo`: in particular: "glx-alternative-nvidia"
17:16<towo`>mpr_, apt get purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/nvidia/{ print $2 }')
17:17<mpr_>@towo`: on it
17:18<mpr_>@towo`: should I reboot after that?
17:18<towo`>mpr_, remove any xorg.conf or foo.conf in /etc/X11 and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
17:18<mpr_>@towo`: any and all?
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17:19<retrospectacus>Guest10497: you should install Debian instead
17:19<towo`>mpr_, no, only a /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it exist
17:19<towo`>mpr_, and if you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d you can remove that folder
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17:20<mpr_>@towo`: I've got none of those
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17:20<mpr_>@towo`: should I reboot or try running glxgears again?
17:21<towo`>mpr_, i would reboot
17:21<mpr_>@towo`: brb! :)
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17:24<Guest10497>retrospectacus, why
17:24<Guest10497>is knoppix unsupported
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17:24<mpr_>@towo`: glxgears is running :D
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17:26<mpr_>@towo`: thanks a bunch, you can't imagine how much pain this has brought me :)
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17:30<towo`>Guest10497, because knoppix is not debian
17:30-!-jacek [~jacek@89-70-45-163.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #debian
17:30<towo`>Guest10497, and this channel is for debian support
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17:32<centrx>!knoppix
17:32<dpkg>Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.org/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems.
17:33<Guest10497>ahh ok, so getting debian would be a wider choice for having it installed
17:33<Guest10497>ok, which debian distro is reccomened for newbies }
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17:36<centrx>Guest10497, The latest stable version of Debian
17:36<centrx>stable release
17:36<centrx>https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/
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17:40<Guest10497>ok thanks
17:40<Guest10497>I amquite happywiththe linux community
17:40<Guest10497>I have beendabbling with linux mintfor acouple of weeks
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17:40<Guest10497>now I will give debian a go
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17:42<Guest10497>one question good people
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17:42<Guest10497>what is beter about debian
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17:43<centrx>Stable, secure, configurable
17:43<Guest10497>mint seems to come from ubuntu, and for some unknown reason, I am not fond of ubuntu
17:43<Ir0nsh007er>centrx: exact
17:43<Guest10497>ok, debian, here I come
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17:44<Guest10497>I like the coolfeatures of this knoppix
17:44<Guest10497>will I find this in debian
17:44<Guest10497>elastic and stretching windows when I move them around
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17:47<Guest10497>how to tell which debian version I should get
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17:52<Guest10497>how to see whatcpu I have
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18:00<awal>Guest10497: there are several command for that. try with "lscpu", cat/less "/proc/cpuinfo"...
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18:01<awal>there is a gui pack for check hardware and system specifications but I forgot the name
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18:01<da2>I installed Debian LXDE on a very very poor netbook and it works good! :-) (Intel Atom N455 1,66 GHz / Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3150 / 1 GB RAM)
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18:02<da2>Thanks Debian people ;-)
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19:20<prrar>Hey guys. I installed debian /testing/ on my MacBook Pro and on my iMac. Before changing the apt-source to testing, everything worked just fine. But, after I did the dost-upgrade, my trackpad/mouse/anything stops working on both iMac and MBP.
19:20<prrar>Any idea?
19:21<prrar>Oh, I'm running it on VMWare Fusion 7
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20:00<bremner>somiaj: kernel 4.3 seems better (compiled from git)
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20:00<somiaj>bremner: that is good, seems your card's drivers are still in development. (:
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20:05<bremner>the skylakes are only shipping for a month or so, I think. So I'm actually lucky that things work
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20:38<stripe>hi all, wanting to change the screen resolution at startup, (i3wm) as I cant add a line to xinitrc (does not exist) what file should I edit to get the correct resolution at boot up?
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20:45<somiaj>stripe: you could create that file, but on debian use $HOME/.xsession
20:45<somiaj>stripe: as for how to configure i3wm start up tools you could check i3wm documentation for this.
20:46<somiaj>stripe: and I also belive you can still enter in resolution settings into an xorg.conf snippit as well.
20:46<stripe>thanks somiaj, xrandr will change the resolution it is just not persistant, will look at xorg.conf next, cheers mate :)
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20:47<somiaj>yea I was just suggesting that over changing after it starts (as this will cause a flicker)
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20:56<stripe>somiaj just added the xrandr command to the bottom of the i3 config file, works great, thanks again :)
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22:15<samsagaz>hi guys, im new with debian, switch from Arch, want to know if exist some way to install latest inkscape on an jessie version
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22:15<samsagaz>(whitout fu** the stable features of debian jessie)
22:16<samsagaz>im very very happy with all the stable packages of jessie, but the latests versions of inkscape have some great performance boot
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22:18<dvs>,v inkscape
22:18<judd>Package: inkscape on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.47.0-2+b1; wheezy: 0.48.3.1-1.3; jessie: 0.48.5-3; jessie-backports: 0.91-5~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.91-6; sid: 0.91-6
22:19<dvs>samsagaz: looks like jessie-backports has a fairly recent version
22:19<samsagaz>thanks dvs
22:19<dvs>no prob
22:19<samsagaz>is easy to install under jessie? will search google to see if found the answer :D
22:20<samsagaz>,v gimp
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22:20<judd>Package: gimp on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 2.6.10-1+squeeze4; squeeze: 2.6.10-1+squeeze4; wheezy: 2.8.2-2+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 2.8.2-2+deb7u1; jessie: 2.8.14-1+b1; sid: 2.8.14-1.2; stretch: 2.8.14-1.2
22:20<samsagaz>:)
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22:20<samsagaz>nice
22:20<samsagaz>dont need to upgrade gimp :D
22:20<dvs>!backports
22:20<dpkg>A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>.
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22:20<samsagaz>thanks again....
22:21<samsagaz>!debian-backports
22:21<dpkg>backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>.
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22:25<samsagaz>installed :)
22:25<samsagaz>very very easy task!
22:25<samsagaz>thanks again dvs
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22:33<connor_>hello!
22:34<connor_>how is anyone?
22:35<dvs>!ask
22:35<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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23:04<framerunner>!help
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