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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-12-05

---Logopened Sat Dec 05 00:00:04 2015
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01:24<Torchic>Hi! Would anyone mind answering a nooby question for me? -qa is quiet right now.
01:25<zykotick9>Torchic: fyi, it _often_ works better, if you just ask the question... YMMV. good luck.
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01:26<Torchic>Haha okay, well I was just trying to change the shell theme as it bothers my eyes being white. Where can I obtain the files that the Tweak Tool needs to do so? :)
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01:42<eirich>Hello. When setting up a terminal welcome message, how does one control the order of items shown? I have last login, motd, and mail status. I want to make sure the motd shows at the top, then mail status, then last login.
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05:11<sefru>Hi everyone! :) Does anyone know if there are any other partitioning software with GUI in Debian repositories in addition to GParted?
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05:18<sefru>Thanks for the answers musca and Continuum! Kvpm seems to be exactly what I need. =)
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05:20<musca>well, it has a large footprint if you are not on a KDE system
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05:21<sefru>I am using KDE. That's why I didn't want to use GParted. :P
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05:53<EmleyMoor>I've no working sound on my system today... it was working last time I tried it. Where should I start troubleshooting?
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05:55<EmleyMoor>Ah - somehow turned right down
05:56<SynrG>:)
05:56<SynrG>that's where i would've started, yes
05:56<EmleyMoor>I never turn it down... wish I could "nail" it.
05:57<SynrG>cron job that checks mixer controls and resets them if they've gone to zero?
05:57<SynrG>will catch any 'rogue' applications mucking with it
05:58<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... there's an idea... will investigate
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09:50<saviog>hi gays
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09:52<saviog>someone help me wiht driver nvidia for debian 8?
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10:39<ctw>Hi! I'm running Debian testing and would like to install the latest version (1.10.1) of the python numpy library. Even in sid the latest version is 1.9.2-5 (there appears to be a 1.10.0 version in experimental). I'd like to stick with the system install (rather than installing Anaconda or some other seperate python distribution) and would like for the install to be integrated with the package manager as much as possible (so I'd prefer to install via
10:39<ctw>apt-get or dpkg -i rather than pip or something similar) ... any advice?
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10:47<cbaines>ctw, is the version in experimental sufficient? If so, I would just use that
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10:48<ctw>cbaines: thanks -- will try it ... was hoping that there might be a repository with more up to date numpy packages or an easy way to make my own deb from the source that would play nice with the system, but the version in experimental might work ...
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11:40<cbc>I have two sound cards and only one plays when I use youtube on my browser. When I use command-line aplay I can use them both. How can I switch between the sound cards for the browser?
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11:43<Nemoder>cbc: with pulseaudio you can set the default sink in the config for whichever card you want to be default. I think alsa has some index feature too though I'm not sure how well it works
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11:45<somiaj>cbc: if using alsa, you can use .asoundrc to set your default sound card (which is what the browser use)
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11:47<cbc>somiaj, do I have to reboot for the .asoundrc?
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11:48<somiaj>cbc: nope
11:48<somiaj>cbc: use aplay -l to figure out which card and which device on that card you need to use.
11:49<somiaj>cbc: then you ened three lines "defaults.ctrl.card X" "defaults.pcm.card X" "defaults.pcm.device Y" in your .asoundrc file
11:49<somiaj>you will have to restart your browser though
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11:51<cbc>somiaj, it is card 2 and device 0. Do I need a "pcm.!default" entry or can I just use those three lines?
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11:51<somiaj>Just those three lines, dont' change anything else (otehrwise you may disable dmix on the card)
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11:53<suru>hallo
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11:56<cbc>somiaj, I use only the three lines but it's not switching card for my browser iceweasel. Also, when I use aplay without specifying a card, it hasn't changed the default sound card yet.
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12:00<cbc>I will try a restart
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13:01<r4f_deb>Hi all
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13:04<cbc>Nemoder, you were right about the pulseaudio default sink. That one worked. The asoundrc didn't work for me. Thanks!
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13:06<r4f_deb>is there any way to access emacs through command line ?
13:07<r4f_deb>currently, I access it just through graphical interface
13:07<PovAddict>type 'emacs'? :P
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13:07<r4f_deb>Hi PovAddict - with commas ?
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13:08<r4f_deb>in this case, it opens emacs graphically
13:09<r4f_deb>but I would like to know if there is the possibility in Debian to open it into terminal, and not through it
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13:10<bremner>r4f_deb: emacs -nw (this is not Debian specific)
13:10<r4f_deb>Hi bremner
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13:12<bremner>r4f_deb: note that most emacs users recommend the graphical version, unless running over SSH
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13:13<r4f_deb>is there any specific reason for that ? Recommended by most emacs users not running over SSH ?
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13:14<PovAddict>that's not what he said
13:14<bremner>r4f_deb: because the GUI version supports more keybindings, mainly.
13:14<bremner>also I guess colours are better, if you care.
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13:16<r4f_deb>yes, PovAddict, you are right, my question was incorrect
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13:16<r4f_deb>thanks for advice !
13:16<r4f_deb>in fact, bremner said a bit different than what I understood
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13:16<r4f_deb>now, it is clear
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13:17<r4f_deb>I see, bremner
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13:17<r4f_deb>my intention is give up graphical interface, as soon as I am be able to manage the system through command line exclusively
13:18<r4f_deb>that's why I asked you about this, Thanks bremner and PovAddict for Help !
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13:19<somiaj>well the best thing about xorg, is multiple xterms (:
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13:19<somiaj>my graphical interface is mostly xterms + a browser, just because it is hard to function without one in my job.
13:20<bremner>and if you window manager is sane, you cang get between terminals without using the mouse
13:21<somiaj>yea, I too advocate getting away from the desktops. But that is because since most my work is in xterms I don't need all the fancy features they provide.
13:21*PovAddict uses yakuake for most of his work
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13:21<r3m>Hi, I have installed unattended-upgrades package, then I didnt change anything to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades and finally I ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow unattended-upgrades and answer yes to the question. I waited 2 days but it do not had update my outdated package (I dont have any custom repo in my sources). So i ran sudo unattended-upgrade --debug and now my packages are updated. I dont know why it do not work automatically
13:22<somiaj>r3m: what version of debian are you running? How did you install the unattended-upgrades package? What are your debconf priority settings?
13:22<grant>I am a comp sci student. g++ is not allowing me to access protected members from a base class in a derived class. What should I do????
13:23<somiaj>r3m: note the -plow really isn't needed for dpkg-reconfigure, by default it will ask all debconf questions.
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13:24<r3m>im running Jessie, I installed unattended-upgrades via apt-get For the debconf priority I dont know , where can I find it please
13:25<PovAddict>grant: go to irc.freenode.net ##c++ :)
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13:27<somiaj>r3m: dpkg-reconfigure debconf (anyways, just checking, so when you isntalled it, it didn't ask you any questions?) Seems strange that it didnt' work automatically. If you think it is a bug I'd try to reproduce it.
13:27<r3m>somiaj, oh I forgot I have this after i select yes in dkpg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades
13:27<r3m>update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults
13:28<r3m>i have this only on my jessie vps not my wheezy vps
13:28<r3m>but both dont update automaticaly..
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13:28<somiaj>r3m: jessie uses systemd, those are just warnings mostly saying that systemd is being used
13:28<r3m>ok thanks
13:29<somiaj>r3m: as for why the unattneded-upgrades is not working automatically. I'm unsure here or what the design is. I don't have time to debug this, but maybe this will help
13:29<somiaj>r3m: https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades
13:29<somiaj>r3m: it seems to have additional instructions. You could check bugreports, docs (/usr/share/doc/unattended-upgrades)
13:30<r3m>thanks somiaj ill check this!
13:30<somiaj>r3m: but it could just be default that it wants you to actually configure it as opposed to running automatically. I'm unsure on this as I don't use them or know what the defaults are.
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14:33<Guest379>hi
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14:33<knopknight>hi
14:34<knopknight>does anyone know if there exists a knoppix support channel }}}
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14:34<PovAddict>!knoppix
14:34<dpkg>Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.org/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems.
14:35<knopknight>ok, thank you very very much >( PovAddict dpkg
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14:35<knopknight>going there, hope I have not been too intrusive
14:35<knopknight>have a nice christmas
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15:35<Thad>Question re network service: By telnet from another machine, I can access port 22 (ssh) but not port 25 (exim4). Error message: "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused" Netstat shows that exim4 is listening. Suggestions?
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15:36<ompaul>exim4 config would be my place to look if I ran exim4 and not postfix
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15:37<Thad>ompaul: So, it looks to you like probable trouble with exim4 config, rather than a network problem. Did I understand right?
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15:39<ompaul>Thad: most likely
15:40<Thad>tell ompaul Thank you. Now that you point it out, you are probably right. I may have been trying to solve the problem in the wrong way.
15:41<PovAddict>Thad: is it listening on 127.0.0.1 alone maybe?
15:41<glads>ttf
15:43<Thad>PovAddict: According to netstat, the Foreign Address of exim4 is 0.0.0.0:*, same as for ssh. Does this answer?
15:44<grove>Thad: Do you have a firewall configured?
15:45<Thad>grove: No firewall as far as I know. However, I have been a desktop user for 15 years; this is my first time configuring a server. How do I tell? Ipchains?
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15:52<Thad>grove: The server is a new virtual server with (as far as I know) a default jessie installation, by Leaseweb of the Netherlands. Of course, I could not tell you with certainty what Leaseweb might be doing, but it does not look like Leaseweb's style to firewall something without asking me first. (Leaseweb sponsors and hosts snapshot.debian.org, so this gives a clue as to how they think. No, I do not think that there is an unknown firewall, nor did I configure one m
15:53<PovAddict>Thad: *email* of all things has a good reason to be firewalled by default due to spam
15:53<Thad>PovAddict: Aha!
15:53<PovAddict>it could also be your ISP blocking port 25 outgoing
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15:54<Thad>That would explain it. Okay, I'll not ask more of your time now. You have been kind enough already. I shall take this to the ISP.
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15:56<PovAddict>Thad: what is your server IP? I could try connecting, if it works the problem is your ISP blocking it outgoing, if it doesn't then the problem is on the server side, since I'm pretty sure my own ISP doesn't block it :)
15:56<Thad>PovAddict: 207.244.97.128
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15:57<PovAddict>220 BBLM001.cs1local ESMTP Exim 4.84 Sat, 05 Dec 2015 20:57:27 +0000
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15:57<PovAddict>so your server is fine :)
15:58<Thad>PovAddict: I think that you have just saved me six hours. Thank you.
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17:34<blink_>anybody familiar with controlling fan speeds? having issues in reducing my fans from 100% to something reasonable on a re-purposed Isilon X200 node (super micro X8DT6 mobo, with impi)
17:35<blink_>configuring with lm-sensors yielded no success
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19:12<princer1>i am using IRC
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19:14<meejah>i'm re-installing Debian (jessie) on an old macbook whose hard-drive I just replaced. Apparently I don't have notes from last time :( and it gets past unlocking the encrypted LVM but then appears to hang (prints 2 lines, "fsck from util-linux 2.25.2" and "/dev/mapper/ ..." and then just sits there)
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19:14<meejah>any hints? this is using grub-efi-amd64 and basically all defaults from the installer (netinst CD)
19:15<meejah>(it was working previously with jessie, so I've obviously just not-done something :/ )
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19:15<meejah>FWIW, the trackpad wasn't working in the installer, either
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20:57<rahul1>hello
20:57<rahul1>i need some help regarding how to use irssi
20:58<rahul1>can anyone help me? please respond
20:58<blast007>rahul1: tried their documentation? http://irssi.org/documentation
20:59<rahul1>and what about weechat?
20:59<centrx>You haven't asked a question
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20:59<rahul1>can you give me a link on weechat too>
20:59<blast007>rahul1: they have documentation too. Does your search engine not work?
21:00<rahul1>i searched but couldnt find anything in detail
21:00<rahul1>thank you very much
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21:00<blast007>I searched for 'weechat', got their main website, and then found a 'documentation' link at the very top...
21:01<rahul1>i googled it too
21:01<rahul1>but found less details
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21:02<blast007>you couldn't find their website?
21:03<rahul1>ya i did just now
21:03<rahul1>i wrote "wechat" haha my bad
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