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00:19<meejah>somiaj: okay, yes i have subsequently uninstalled grub-pc (was just trying) and thought maybe that somehow made the mac bootloader confused. "or something".
00:19<meejah>on older mac-minis i had to run gptsync by hand after the installer was done, but there isn't a gptsync package anymore it seems...
00:21<meejah>i also couldn't boot from a USB-that-looks-like-a-CD -- I have vague memories of having to run "bless" on it, but I don't have OS X anymore anyway (so I had to install from burned DVD)
00:21<somiaj>the offical debian installers suuport both efi and legacy boot.
00:22<somiaj>though I thought powerbooks only supported efi boot. And depending on the generation some were picky about the name of the .efi file and you had to rename grub64.efi to BOOT64.EFI on the efi partition.
00:22<somiaj>But I personally have not used such hardware, these are only things I've seen people run into here.
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01:18<meejah>somiaj: okay, thanks :) I *thinK* this one is old enough (removable battery) to have a bios-compatibility mode, triggered depending on how it's booted. but, not sure. grub not my strong suit :)
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01:36<eze>hi
01:36<eze>is anybody there?
01:38<eze>holis?
01:38<Hydroxide>!ask
01:38<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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01:39<eze>hehe im new
01:39<eze>sorry
01:39<eze>i come from Lubuntu
01:39<eze>and i just installed Jussy
01:39<eze>but i cant install anything cause of the repositeries
01:40<eze>i dont know how to add the contrib and non free
01:40<eze>how can i do that?
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01:42<jm_>edit sources.list and add it:
01:42<jm_>!non-free sources
01:42<dpkg>Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «aptitude update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>.
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01:47<eze>i knew that but, i mean where do i get the url of the repositeries... i dont get it.https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/Ncx4rZ2Swm276ArIgv2e
01:47<eze>see
01:47<eze>are they corrects?
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01:48<jm_>remove debian-multimedia, and yes they are correct, you already have them, just change it like the above info from dpkg says
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01:49<jm_>ahh no you need to enable lines 5 and 6
01:49<jm_>!sources.list
01:49<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
01:50<jm_>make it like that
01:50<jm_>and then add non-free/contrib as you wish
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01:53<jm_>you only have entries for jessie-updates and that's why it doesn't work
01:54<eze>yes
01:54<eze>i didnt know that
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01:56<eze>i get this when i run aptitude update
01:56<eze>The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found.
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01:56<eze>i driving crazy
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01:58<jm_>use http, not https
01:59<jm_>and use the tool you normally use for installing packages, not necessarily aptitude
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02:01<eze>i allways use aptitud update, but as i'm not familliar with the repositories managements i use synaptics to see the repositories list
02:01<jm_>yeah you can trigger update in there too, but aptitude is fine if you always use it
02:02<eze>GPG error: http://packages.debian.org jessy InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)
02:03<eze>i got that after adding this one "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main"
02:03<jm_>where are you from?
02:04<eze>argentina
02:05<eze>do you speak spanish?
02:05<jm_>no mirrors there? try replacing httpredir.debian.org with some closer mirror
02:05<jm_>no, but they do here:
02:05<jm_>!es
02:05<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
02:07<eze>there no primary repositories
02:07<eze>but there Secondary mirrors of the Debian
02:08<jm_>try using those if they are reliable
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02:21<eze>can i use the repositeries of Ubuntu?
02:21<eze>they are too differents?
02:21<jm_>no
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02:22<eze>no, i cant use it or no, they arent different?
02:23<jm_>technically you can use it but no-one will support the mess that it ends up as
02:23<eze>hahaha ok
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02:44<gnumonk>Hi
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02:47<gnumonk>I am facing problem with container lxc, I have received Debian Container , Problem here is when I get login: prompt, I have to press two "Enter" key always to get password: prompt?
02:47<gnumonk>where do I look for the issue? is it will /etc/passwd ?
02:50<gnumonk>any idea?
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04:54<willmafh>Is there anyone knows catpath? I was reading manpage of manpath(1), and there is a option -c, --catpath...I couldn't figure it out...Thanks...
04:55<willmafh>When I use manpath command without -c option, the output is what you saying: /usr/local/man:/usr/local/share/man:/usr/share/man, but when I use the command with -c option, then the output is: /var/cache/man/oldlocal:/var/cache/man/local:/var/cache/man...Does cat in the catpath mean cache temporarily?
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05:36<CQ>hello, I'm trying to fet an NFS mount to work with rpc.idremapd ... no luck so far. I've got the domains set, static translation method, and verbosity 5 in /etc/idmapd.conf, but am not seeing anything useful. The 1001.1001 uid/gid that I want to remap to 1000.1000 doesn't work and shows as 1001.1001 on the client
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06:14<PaulePanter>Hi. Since today I am unable to run `apt upgrade` in Debian 8.2 (Jessie/stable).
06:14<PaulePanter>http://paste.debian.net/341904/
06:15<PaulePanter>It asks *Is the package apt-transport-https installed?* and I do not have it installed, because all sources are noted with HTTP and not HTTPS.
06:15<PaulePanter>$ grep -R https /etc/apt/sources.list
06:15<PaulePanter>does not have any matches.
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06:19<CQ>PaulePanter: look in /etc/sources.d as well
06:19<jm_>how about sources.list.d/*?
06:19<jm_>heh
06:19<CQ>https://packages.debian.org/sid/apt-transport-https ... or install this
06:20<flappy>PaulePanter: did you mean to use 'apt-get upgrade' instead?
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06:25<PaulePanter>`grep https /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*` also returns nothing.
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06:25<PaulePanter>flappy: No, just updating the package list.
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06:27<PaulePanter>I am using the HTTP redirector.
06:27<PaulePanter>http://httpredir.debian.org/
06:27<PaulePanter>Maybe some mirror migrated to HTTPS due to the Let’s Encrypt developments?
06:29<PaulePanter>Looks like, that’s the case. It’s the lumail sources.
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06:30<PaulePanter>http://packages.steve.org.uk
06:30<PaulePanter>https://blog.steve.org.uk/i_jumped_on_the_ssl_bandwagon.html
06:30<PaulePanter>;:-)
06:30<PaulePanter>;-)
06:31<PaulePanter>Installing apt-transport-https worked after disabling the problematic sources and now it works again.
06:32<jm_>and the mirror does redirect?
06:32<jm_>yup
06:34<PaulePanter>I commented on the blog post. Let’s see when it’s going to be published.
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06:37<von>hello. Trying to make unattended jessie installation via preseed, but passwd/make-user is ignored (it is set to false, but the user info is requested by the installer regardless)
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08:11<shtrb>Is mod_tile (https://github.com/openstreetmap/mod_tile) is somewhere in the debian package process ?
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09:37<aleksandar>Which display manager should I use with Cinnamon? Lightdm or GDM?
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09:49<nathan1>hello, I have a desktop pc (intel Q9300 cpu + nvidia geforce 8800 GTS) equipped with debian 7 and since some days I randomly get screen freeze with the system still working in the background (I can connect with ssh), looking into the dmesg and Xorg.0.log I read things like CPU has fallen off the bus or EMQ overflow...could somebody help me understand if its a hardware problem or only software?
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09:56<Walex>nathan1: almost certainly hardware
09:58<Walex>nathan1: that it is a Debian 7 and has a Q9300 means it is a bit old. I would check the dust on the CPU or the motherboard fans, and the voltage on the power supply.
09:58<nathan1>Walex: could you please explain me your thoughs?
09:58<Walex>nathan1: it could also be the graphics card fan that needs lubricating.
09:59<nathan1>Walex: you mean overtemperature?
09:59<Walex>nathan1: I did explain... It is an old system, sudden freezes, error in the log about CPU etc.
09:59<Walex>nathan1: temperature too high or voltage too low.
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09:59<nathan1>Walex: checked voltages from BIOS, seems ok
10:00<Walex>nathan1: very common. Distant third is some component starting to fail.
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10:00<nathan1>Walex: CPU has no dust on it (mounted vertically), I also tried to remove dust from GPU
10:00<Walex>nathan1: use 'sensors-detect' to enable sensor modules, then 'sensors -s' to initialize, and then 'sensors', and watch it under load.
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10:00<peter1138>Heh, wheezy is way newer than that hardware.
10:01<Walex>nathan1: your PSU may be failing unless it was quite expensive when bought.
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10:02<Walex>nathan1: also if it is an old enough motherboard the capacitors might be blowing, or some might be already blown
10:02<asdi>hallo
10:02<Walex>nathan1: http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=195
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10:03<Walex>nathan1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague
10:03<Walex>let's hope it is not the capacitors, because if it is replacing them is not that easy
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10:03<nathan1>Walex: MB is asus P5K pro
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10:04<Walex>nathan1: it is old enough that it could be capacitors. Anyhow the capacitor issue is still happening occasionally
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10:10<peter1138>You might try reseating things in their sockets.
10:10<nathan1>peter1138: already tried...seemed ok for around one week, then a couple of days ago the problem went back
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10:12<nathan1>Walex: when I opened it I didn't noticed anything strange on the MB surface...I don't think this is capacitors related
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10:13<nathan1>Walex: voltages read from sensors are the following core=1.13, 3.3V=3.28, 5V=5.11, 12V=12.04
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10:13<nathan1>Walex: CPU temperature 48 C, MB temperature 45 C
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10:13<nathan1>Walex: CPU fan is rotating at 2109 RPM
10:14<peripocha_>hi, someone can help me to configure my udev rules for a usb device?
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10:20<nathan1>Walex: its freezing now...got 100% CPU from /usr/bin/X
10:20<nathan1>Walex: CPU is at 60 C
10:20<nathan1>Walex: and I got this message from syslogd: Disabling IRQ #16
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10:46<stephen0001>greetings everyone. With 4.x kernel series my LG Flatron Fantasy L1900E can't backlight itself and cannot see anything and I have to wait for a couple of minutes to get started. The error message I get is the following: Failed to get backlight or LED device 'backlight:acpi_video0': No such device; with 3.x kernel series I did not have such problem; I have tested it a couple of hours ago.
10:46<stephen0001>I'm using Debian testing 64-bit fully updated
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10:49<joe-public>Well, I think Debian testing is over in #debian-next if that helps.
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11:46<awal>Is it possible to encrypt / and /home once the installation is done yet? Or it should be done during install?
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11:53<sten_>I installed xfce, network-manager-gnome, gnome-keyring yesterday, but I cannot connect to wireless networks, because in the authentication required window the connect button is disabled and does not become enabled no matter what I type. What do I miss to get this to work?
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11:59<awal>sten_: maybe a non free firmware is missing?
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12:00<petros>If my xdg-open and 'sensible-browser' both open an URL as file:///[$home]/'[$url]' in the browser, what setting is wrong? What file do I look in?
12:00<sten_>awal: no, it worked before with the kde applet
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12:01<awal>sten_: you still have the kde one?
12:01<sten_>no, kde crashes on login
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12:02<awal>but the kde network pack (i no remember the name) still in your machine, eh?
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12:02<awal>sten_, ^
12:03<sten_>awal: I removed the network-manager-kde package with kde, but I guess I could install it again
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12:04<awal>was just wondering if there is no conflict network-manager-kde <> network-manager-gnome
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12:05<SynrGy>petros: umm. ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list maybe? or defaults.list
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12:05<petros>SynrGy: I'll look. Thanks for input
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12:05<SynrGy>petros: that only says what opens what ...
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12:06<SynrGy>and only if you've performed a local override
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12:06<petros>meh. Looks like it interprets URL's as files
12:07<SynrGy>works for me :/
12:07<SynrGy>which browser?
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12:07<awal>sten_: sten_: an easy way is try wicd + wicd-gtk
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12:07<petros>iceweasel
12:07<SynrGy>petros: put quotes around the URL?
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12:08<SynrGy>petros: specifically, single-quotes
12:08<SynrGy>you wouldn't want shell metacharacters interpreted
12:08<SynrGy>petros: xdg-open 'http://www.debian.org/'
12:08<awal>sten_: having xfce, I suggest you wicd, its lighter then netwotkmanager
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12:09<sten_>awal: yeah, good idea. right now I can't even remember the exact name of the kde applet
12:09<petros>gives me file:///home/peter/'http://www.debian.org' in adress bar
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12:11<sten_>awal: ok, found it, plasma-nm, but it needs 180 pkgs of dependencies
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12:11<awal>sten_, exact
12:12<awal>sten_: it the machine your main?
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12:12<sten_>awal: yes
12:12<awal>i mean, you only have that one?
12:13<sten_>awal: no, I have another one (desktop), but I mostly work on this laptop
12:13<awal>ahm, ok
12:14<awal>so reinstall plasma-nm, as you had it before, then install wicd & wicd-gtk
12:14<awal>for now...
12:14<awal>wicd doesn't need gnome/kde deps
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12:15<sten_>awal: yeah, that's the best. I need to install another kde app that probably pulls a good number of deps anyway
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12:15<awal>sten_, when u install plasma-nm, check recommends, you may no want them...
12:16<sten_>awal: I did turn recommends off at some point, but thanks for the reminder
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12:22<awal>sten_, sometimes recommends are really needed for get the installed pack running as it should
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12:22<sten_>awal: yeah, I figured that out the hard way. I usually look through recommends now
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13:08<petros>Discovered my mistake. Had set 'export BROWSER="firefox '%s' &"' in bashrc. Changing to 'export BROWSER="firefox %s &"' solved it
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13:09<somiaj>petros: why not just use iceweasel?
13:09<somiaj>or are you using that, and firefox is just being a link
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13:09<petros>It is. It symlinks to iceweasel
13:09<petros>I use for distro-compability
13:10<somiaj>ahh okay
13:10<somiaj>I tried that, usually sharing $HOME between various distros can lead to problems in the long run. A lot depends on what versions of software and distros, but my experience was it was worthwhile having a seperate $HOME for each distro.
13:11<petros>Duly noted. I expect to stay with debian(based) from now on, so I hope it will be less of an issue in the long run
13:12<petros>(Must resists desire to test Arch :D)
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13:13<somiaj>petros: even that can cause problems if you are using different versions of gnome for which config syntax changes. Really it depends on the different versions of software all using the same config file. Config file sysntax/options do not always stay the same.
13:14<petros>Hence, i try to stay with WM's. I like simplicity. But noted
13:15<petros>Thnks all. CYA
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13:39<joelkraehemann>anyone speaking german?
13:40<mtn>!de
13:40<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
13:41<Raiz>in oftc?
13:41<Raiz>It's empty
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13:41<towo`>is not empty
13:42<towo`>actual 155 user
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13:42<Raiz>/join #debian-de
13:43<Raiz>It's only me there...
13:43<lzz>instruction says dots #debian.de
13:43<Raiz>Right
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14:59<Scurvy>So, how do I upgrade to jessie in such a way that I don't lose my legacy nvidia cards that aren't supported in jessie anymore? They're supported by the 173xx legacy drivers.
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15:01<towo`>Scurvy, don't update the kernel and X
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15:02<Scurvy>crappy. :(
15:02<towo`>buy recent hardware
15:02<towo`>or use the free nouveau driver
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15:03<towo`>for such old card's nouveau should be good enougth
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15:04<Scurvy>nouveau works, but doesn't give full resolution, that's why I tried the nvidia one in the first place.
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15:04<towo`>i can't beleve it does not give the full resolution
15:04<blast007>and you've tried the nouveau in Jessie?
15:04<Scurvy>it's running nice with the nvidia drivers, no issues at all other than it's wheezy.
15:05<towo`>Scurvy, as you seem nvidia has abadoned the support for that old cards
15:05<towo`>s/seem/seen
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15:05<Scurvy>blast007, I seem to recall it didn't work with this old card any better than in wheezy.
15:06<Scurvy>blast007, I had it setup in wheezy, upgraded to jessie and lost the nice video, so reinstalled wheezy to get it back.
15:06<Scurvy>Am now at the point of trying to figure out how to upgrade without loosing the video setup.
15:06<blast007>Could be the fault of your screen as well. My old CRT display never seems to report the right resolution support.
15:06<Scurvy>towo`, Yeah, I guess that's not surprising. Wish I could just build my own kernel from jessie sources with the old drivers shoehorned in.
15:07<Scurvy>blast007, Yeah, the screen isn't "nice", but works great with the nvidia stuff. it's reported as unknown otherwise.
15:07<towo`>Scurvy, have fun, the jessie kernel is 3.19m you can do many things, the driver will not compile, if you don't find a patch
15:08<towo`>Scurvy, and X in jessie even does not support the 173.xx driver and will never do
15:08<Scurvy>Ah, ok. Lol. Glad I asked then! ;)
15:08<blast007>Scurvy: I work around it by just manually adding resolutions using xrandr (using a modeline generated by gtf)
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15:09<Scurvy>So should I just pin the various wheezy drivers, and will that 'lock' the necessary things in place? Or am I basically left with an increasingly brick-like old laptop?
15:09<Scurvy>or try to force it in jessie xrandr?
15:10<blast007>get a live DVD, test messing around with xrandr to see if it at least *can* push the right resolution with nouveau, then get assistance with a more permenant solution.
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15:11<Scurvy>ok thanks blast007.
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15:20<somiaj>Scurvy: I do belive nvidia did put some resources into nouveau (far less than was hoped for) to get nouveau to work better on older cards so they can stop supporting the legacy drivers. Also nouveau seemed to have a surge of development slightly after wheezy froze, so I think you should get the support you want from nouveau.
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15:20<somiaj>I think it is only new cards that seem to have trouble with nouveau with the issues I see people having here
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15:23<Scurvy>somiaj, ok ty, I'm torrenting the newest jessie dvd right now to see how it works on this poor old beast.
15:23<Scurvy>Getting some computers together for my kids. ;)
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17:11<graeme>hi
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17:12<graeme>I'm trying to install libdb4.8 on a mips system, however i get a 404 regardless of the repository i use. anyone got any idea where i'll get the correct file?
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17:16<awal>,v libdb4.8
17:16<judd>Package: libdb4.8 on amd64 -- squeeze: 4.8.30-2
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17:21<jhutchins>graeme: At what stage do you get the 404? You may have misconfigured the repository.
17:22<jhutchins>!jessie sources.list
17:22<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
17:24<graeme>jhutchins: http://pastebin.com/pBNKSaGi
17:25<retrospectacus>,v libdb5.3
17:25<judd>Package: libdb5.3 on amd64 -- jessie: 5.3.28-9; sid: 5.3.28-11; stretch: 5.3.28-11
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17:26<jhutchins>graeme: The site could have bad index files or there could be something wrong with your sources.list. Did you try doing an update again?
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17:27<graeme>yeah, i've reupdated, added an extra server as a source and updated again in case it was an issue with the server
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17:27<jhutchins>graeme: Multiple servers for the same source is a bad idea and can cause problems. You should have ONE for main contrib non-free, one for security, etc.
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17:29<graeme>yeah, i would normally have one, but i added just in case it had the file
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17:29<jhutchins>,v libdb4
17:30<judd>No package named 'libdb4' was found in amd64.
17:30<jhutchins>,v libdb4.8
17:30<judd>Package: libdb4.8 on amd64 -- squeeze: 4.8.30-2
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17:31<jhutchins>graeme: This suggests that you may have a mixed system.
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17:33<jhutchins>graeme: Have you installed packages from more than one release?
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17:34<graeme>jhutchins: not that i'm aware of
17:35<awal>graeme: you in jessie?
17:35<graeme>squeeze
17:35<awal>oh!
17:35<graeme>it's a little mips router
17:35<graeme>i really should get round to building a "proper" router
17:36<awal>graeme, can you paste your sources file?
17:36<graeme>http://pastebin.com/WVTGWBtA
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17:39<graeme>i think possibly the MIPS packages for squeeze are slowly being removed sue to package updates, since the LTS for squeeze is i386 and amd64
17:39<awal>probably
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17:40<minenoob>hello
17:40<minenoob>anyone here?
17:40<graeme>hi minenoob
17:41<awal>you may want to upgrade to jessie, or at least wheezy, graeme
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17:41<minenoob>hi graeme
17:41<graeme>awal: yeah, think i'll sort that out. hopefully solve my problems
17:42<PadawanLearner>i'm having an issue with my graphics. it is usual to have to reboot after sleep mode because the screen does not wake up. when i plug in an external monitor the wm really slows down. get the message: [drm:intel_enable_lvds] *ERROR* timed out waiting for panel to power on on the log, any ideas?
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17:45<mtn>PadawanLearner, which video card/driver?
17:46<PadawanLearner>mtn i think it is i915
17:47<mtn>PadawanLearner, are you using jessie?
17:47<PadawanLearner>yep, it's a clean install from a dvd i pulled last week of the stable branch
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17:48<PadawanLearner>with http mirror enabled
17:48-!-mode/#debian [+l 747] by debhelper
17:48<mtn>PadawanLearner, it is possible that getting a newer kernel and xserver-xorg-video-intel from backports would help
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17:49<PadawanLearner>ok, i'll try that, it's an old laptop it should have 5 years now
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17:49<mtn>PadawanLearner, hmm, it still might help. you could also research your specific card and debian to see if you can find any common problems.
17:50<mtn>PadawanLearner, to see the specific card: lspci -nn | grep -i vga
17:50<mtn>PadawanLearner, I also always look at the arch wiki for solutions, too
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17:52<PadawanLearner>00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0046] (rev 12)
17:52<mtn>PadawanLearner, the numbers 8086:0046 will help you when you search, that is the hardware id
17:52<graeme>thanks for the help folks. i'm gonna hit the hay. I'll see if I can get this machien to upgrade to jessie / squeeze when I'm not quite so tired
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17:52<PadawanLearner>mtn: thanks, i actually saw a couple of mentions there when googling, but nothing that i could use
17:53<mtn>PadawanLearner, welcome
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17:54<minenoob>can anyone please help me, i am trying to install java runtime 7 but it says its already installed, but if i ask which version then it says IcedTea6 1.13.5, i can not install openjdk-8-jr because it says i can not find it, iam trying to open minecraft.jar from the graphical user interface but it only lists openjdk jre 6 and minecraft need java openjdk jre ,i have downloaded it from my webbrowser but i dont know how to install
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17:55<minenoob>error needs openjdk jre 7
17:56<PadawanLearner>minenoob: how are you installing?
17:57<Brigo>minenoob, i think it is an alternatives problem
17:58<mtn>minenoob, openjdk-8-jre is in jessie backports
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17:58<minenoob>i tried sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre and apt-get install openjdk-7-jre both from my normal user terminal and the root terminal
17:58<mtn>minenoob, https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=openjdk
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17:58<Brigo>minenoob, update-alternatives --config java
17:58<debrik>any way to improve font rendering on jessie amd64?
17:59<mtn>debrik, which de, if any?
17:59<debrik>Gnome 3
17:59<mtn>debrik, have you used tweak-tool?
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18:00<debrik>yes, but only to add minimize butons
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18:00<minenoob>Brigo, if i type that it opens a file.
18:00<mtn>debrik, it has a fonts section, you can adjust hinting and antialiasing there
18:01<debrik>alright, i was wanting to improve font rendering in chromium and iceweasel.
18:01<mtn>debrik, tweak tool will adjust it for all apps
18:01<debrik>alright.
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18:02<Brigo>minenoob, as root??
18:02<Brigo>it is not a file it is a text menu.
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18:03<Brigo>you should press the leading number in the desire line.
18:03<debrik>improved some, i was hoping for it to look similar to that of say, ubuntu
18:03<minenoob>Brigo, oh okey, what shouldi do then? i have it as user.
18:03<mtn>debrik, it can no doubt be adjusted to the same settings. of course, which fonts are being used make a difference, too
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18:04<Brigo>minenoob, you need root permissions.
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18:05<minenoob>Brigo, okey, i now get, Selection Path Priority Status ------------------------------------------------------------ * 0 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java 1061 auto mode 1 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java 1061 manual mode 2 /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java 1051 manual mode Press enter to keep the
18:05<victor31>hola
18:05<Brigo>minenoob, push 2
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18:05<Brigo>to select /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java (which you want)
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18:06<minenoob>Brigo, okey thank you, i pressed 2.
18:06<Brigo>minenoob, the thing is you have severals java installed, 6 and 7, then the system has to choose one.
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18:06<Brigo>minenoob, then now you should be using java 7 by default.
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18:07<minenoob>Brigo, okey thank you, i am going to try if i can open the file with it now
18:07<debrik>i appreciate the help
18:07<Brigo>minenoob, good luck :)
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18:09<minenoob>Brigo, i still only have OpenJDK 6 Runtime in the menu when i right click on the file.
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18:10<minenoob>I also can not find it if i slect òpen with other application`
18:10<Brigo>minenoob, then remove it, or use the terminal
18:10<Brigo>remove java 6, i mean
18:10<Brigo>minenoob, or maybe you need to logout and login for the system get updated.
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18:19<minenoob>OH MY GOD Brigo You are GOD!!! i think it is working, i tried to open the icon that was made in an earlier installation again which i think failed because it by default was trying to open with OpenJDK jre 6.
18:19<minenoob>That means i can probably play Minecraft on linu thanks to you.
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18:26<minenoob>Brigo, thank you.
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18:34<Brigo>minenoob, you are wellcome :)
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18:37<minenoob>i am so stupid, i am doing somuch effort to install minecraft while there are like 10 open source inux alternatives that are exactly like minecraft
18:37<minenoob>and they dont use JAVA which is i think very slow
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18:38<minenoob>they should ban JAVA from the internet
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18:38<minenoob>my old pc can not handle it very well
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18:48<Brigo>minenoob, i have played minetest quite good.
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19:30<anonimous>tfuy
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19:31<minenoob>i am downloading 188 updates, its very slow, did no use debian for a long time
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19:43<PadawanLearner>thank god for broadband internet... dist-upgrade... 2.47G og updates
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19:44<Scurvy>hey blast007 you still around? playing around with xrandr but it's not letting me set the mode wheezy said I had.
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19:45<Scurvy>nvidia proprietary drivers under wheezy said the screen size was: 1400x1050 @60.02. so I gtf'd a new modeline and added it, but xrandr says "crtc 0 failed".
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19:58<Scurvy>may just be the specific video card, nv34m (iirc) seems to have some issues with nouveau. :(
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20:03<PadawanLearner>hey Scurvy maybe you can help me
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20:03<canaima>m
20:04<canaima>h
20:04<canaima>j
20:05<PadawanLearner>i'm having a major performance issue with my graphics setup, it gets really slow when i plug an external monitor
20:05<PadawanLearner>and i lose image after sleep very often
20:05<PadawanLearner>get a nice line on the log:
20:05<PadawanLearner>[drm:intel_enable_lvds [i915]] *ERROR* timed out waiting for panel to power on
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20:09<Scurvy>PadawanLearner, sorry, no idea really. Does that work in other setups? if not then maybe it's a not-enough-ram issue? If so, maybe it's drivers?
20:12<PadawanLearner>Scurvy: i just installed the laptop, new hard drive :)
20:12<PadawanLearner>so made a nice debian stable install
20:12<PadawanLearner>and to my surprise it does not work properly
20:12<PadawanLearner>it has 4G ram
20:13<PadawanLearner>so i guess it's more than enough to run idle
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20:13<PadawanLearner>i have tryed to install a newer kernel from backports
20:13<Scurvy>what about graphic ram? And did it work on any other system? I'm not going to be much more help I'm afraid, these kind of things aren't my forte.
20:13<PadawanLearner>without any luck the issue stands
20:14<PadawanLearner>Scurvy: np mate, i'm upgrading to testing to see if it settles it
20:14<PadawanLearner>then to sid
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20:14<PadawanLearner>and maybe tomorrow a fresh kernel from kernel.org
20:15<PadawanLearner>haven't compiled one in about 10 years
20:15<PadawanLearner>so
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20:46<Scurvy>the livedvd appears to segfault every shutdown too. Will be switching back to wheezy + nvidia legacy, the screen and framebuffer stuff isn't working well at all in jessie for this card.
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20:51<PadawanLearner>yay for closed source/binary drivers
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21:19<jaccob>How do you restart the dhclient system. It used to be if I plugged my ethernet, then replugged later I would have to simply enter #dhclient and I would get a new lease but that doesn't work anymore and I have to reboot.
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21:21<PadawanLearner>ps -A|grep dhclient
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21:21<PadawanLearner>kill -9 <pid>
21:21<jaccob>PadawanLearner, oooooh, I have to kill it first eh
21:21<PadawanLearner>dhclient
21:21<jaccob>PadawanLearner, thx
21:22<jaccob>I am installing on ASUS Eee PC and it is hung during partitioning of the /boot partition
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21:29<Scurvy>jaccob, funny you're installing on an eee... I'm contemplating doing the same thing, have a 900 16GB Linux here with Peppermint on it, thinking about jessie.
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21:34<PadawanLearner>those are nice litle machines
21:34<PadawanLearner>i used a small laptop for about a month
21:34<PadawanLearner>pretty neat
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21:46<christian_>How do I enable plymouth boot splash I have tried alot of ways none seem to work except one just a little then the text seems to come up till login screen adding acpi_osi= quiet splash to end of linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-686-pae root=UUID=7c204b9d-5319-479c-b232-9d145d29d7fe ro acpi_osi= quiet splash
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21:47<christian_>even then it is a black screen
21:48<christian_>I an useing Mepis MX15b os
21:48<bremner>christian_: you should ask in mepis support channel / forum then.
21:49<bremner>as that bot says, !based on debian
21:49<bremner>!based on debian
21:49<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
21:49<bremner>lame bot.
21:51<yohnnyjoe>I love based debian bot
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21:52<christian_>!plymouth
21:52<dpkg>Plymouth presents a graphic animation while the boot process occurs in the background. It is designed to be used with <DRM> modesetting drivers and replaces both <usplash> and <splashy>. Read /usr/share/doc/plymouth/README.Debian to enable. http://wiki.debian.org/plymouth http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Plymouth #plymouth on irc.freenode.net.
21:52<awal>:D
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22:01<christian_>BRB think i got it
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