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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-12-08

---Logopened Tue Dec 08 00:00:08 2015
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01:29-!-Yst is "Yst Dawson" on #debian #
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01:48<joelkraehemann>Marilion justify yourselves a service might not exclude any parties
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01:54<joelkraehemann>Marillion, ping
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02:54<Silverbullet>After signing in and typing startX It gives me user@device in a high resolution text but nothing else
02:54<Silverbullet>what did I do wrong?
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02:55<jm_>what does this command show? use the pastebin (/msg dpkg paste) -- ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager /etc/alternatives/x-terminal-emulator /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager
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02:56<Silverbullet>I'm going to just run "graphical automated install" one more time and see
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02:57<jm_>what is a graphical automated install?
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02:58<Silverbullet>I usually use "expert install" from a USB
02:58<jm_>that's not automated at all
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02:58<Silverbullet>hmm, It seemed to fix my problem
02:58<Silverbullet>have a good night/day!
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03:47<ohni>hello
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06:58<jesopo>same
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07:15<greenit>hi, how can i create a live-image from my currently running debian? i need some packages for my computer which are not in the default live-image
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07:19<jm_>bootcd package creates a live cd based on your debian installation
07:20<jm_>and live-image is trivial to update with more packages, the docs explain how to do that
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07:21<greenit>can you point me to the docs where it tells me how to update the live-image please? i didn't find them...
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07:23<jm_>I used wrong terminology, not update but build one
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07:25<bremner>greenit: you may also try asking on #debian-live
07:25<greenit>bremner, thanks, i'll try
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09:59<greenit>hi, i wanted to create a live-system following this guide: https://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/09/21/how-to-build-a-debian-livecd/ , but i can't find /usr/lib/syslinux/{isolinux.bin, menu.c32}. is this guide outdated? is there a newer, more actual guide for creating a live system?
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10:09<ilken>http://www.dailydot.com/politics/trump-closing-the-internet-up-in-some-way/?tw=dd
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10:12<SynrG>greenit: you were on the right channel to ask about live-build (#debian-live), but didn't wait there for an answer
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10:13<SynrG>greenit: consult live-manual (a package in jessie) for how to use live-build. you can start with the tutorials at the back. we can provide more assistance on #debian-live
10:14<greenit>thanks SynrG
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10:15<SynrG>greenit: might have to idle a while. i'm at work and only occasionally available
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10:45<awal>!kernels
10:45<dpkg>Linux kernel versions, mainline: 4.4-rc4, mainline: 4.3, stable 4.2: 4.2.6, longterm 4.1: 4.1.13, longterm 3.18: 3.18.24, longterm 3.14: 3.14.57, longterm 3.12: 3.12.51, longterm 3.10: 3.10.93, longterm 3.4: 3.4.110, longterm 3.2: 3.2.74, longterm 2.6.32: 2.6.32.69, linux-next: next-20151208
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10:50<awal>Why rmadison doesn't show kernel version in experimental?
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10:53<awal>How to get version of X pack in experimental suite?
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11:00<bremner>rmadison linux-image-4.3.0-trunk-amd64
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11:00<greenit>awal, as you already mentioned, rmadison is a good way, another way is to use the package "apt-show-versions -a <package>".
11:01<awal>greenit: ok, thanks
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11:04<MY123>hi
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11:18<cemg>my laptop gets heat a lot. i have debian 8.2 KDE and kernel 4.2. Optimus technology here.
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11:26<awal>cemg: your fan works?
11:26<cemg>yes ofc
11:27<awal>can we see the output of 'acpi -V'?
11:27<cemg>okey
11:27<awal>paste.debian.net , please
11:27<cemg>https://paste.kde.org/pdntthlos
11:28<cemg>its cool for now, but when i open a youtube video , it fires
11:29<cemg>or when i searching on web
11:29<awal>cemg, 47 degrees C seems "acceptable"
11:29<cemg>okey wait i will open a youtube video and lets see :D
11:31<awal>you should know that Kde desktop is heavy and all its desktop bleeding edge effects have have impact in cpu, ram...
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11:31<awal>adobe flash is another story...
11:31<cemg>https://paste.kde.org/pqftjx8s6
11:31<cemg>for 10 seconds of video
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11:32<cemg>yeah i know that but its too weird
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11:32<awal>are you running flashplugin-nonfree on iceweasel or the chromium pepper one?
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11:33<cemg>i use google chrome
11:33<awal>google chrome from google repo?
11:33<cemg>yes
11:33<awal>does that happens if using iceweasel?
11:33<cemg>from google.com/chrome
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11:34<awal>iceweasel+flashplugin-nonfree
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11:35<cemg>its same
11:35<cemg>its same as chrome
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11:35<cemg>this doesnt happen at openSUSE though
11:35<cemg>what might happen with debian ? interesting
11:36<awal>I have like 6 tabs running video content now in chromium & iceweasel and I'm in 53 degrees C too. sounds normal for me
11:36<cemg>i have only 1 tab :D
11:36<cemg>that was youtube video
11:37<awal>thats a flash related not debian system in my point of view, also flash uses hardware acceleration....
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11:38<awal>and you should know that flash plugins are not maintained by Debian
11:39<awal>pepperflashplugin-nonfree » google, flash-plugin-nonfree » adobe
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11:40<cemg>okey
11:40<cemg>thank you for your help
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11:41<awal>cemg: without flash running your machine is around 35/50 degrees C almost?
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11:43<cemg>yeah
11:43<awal>your fine with debian, so :)
11:43<cemg>:D
11:43<awal>yo're ^ :)
11:43<cemg>okey then , i am happy :D
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11:44<cemg>what about charge consuming
11:44<awal>good
11:44<cemg>in 44 mins 76% charge consumed
11:45<cemg>screen brightness at 60%
11:45<awal>latest gnome versions seems to handle better battery consumption then kde. that's my experience
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11:45<cemg>yeah
11:45<cemg>2.10 hours for opensuse 42.1 Gnome
11:45<awal>battery consumption is a long story under linux
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11:46<cemg>the only consern i have is , this consumption may break the battery
11:46<cemg>:D
11:46<cemg>am i thinking it stupidly ?
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11:46<awal>break it no
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11:47<awal>almost all gnu-linux users, no matters which OS, suffer that issue
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11:48<cemg>the best consumption was at ubuntu 15.10 mate, ElementaryOS and openSUSE gnome
11:48<cemg>for my laptop
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11:48<cemg>over 2 hours
11:48<awal>I dont know how to call that in english, it's a propietary drivers, bios vs linux related
11:48<cemg>others suck at it :D
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11:48<awal>maybe somebody can explain you that better
11:49<cemg>okey okey
11:49<cemg>i have another question for you :D
11:49<cemg>i can use my touchpad but tap doesnt work
11:49<awal>for me no
11:49<awal>for all users in channel
11:49<cemg>where we set it
11:49<awal>:D
11:49<cemg>:D
11:50<cemg>i didnt understand
11:50<cemg>everybody has this problem ?
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11:51<SynrG>optimus using free driver, or non-free?
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11:52<cemg>how can i check ? :D
11:52<awal>cemg: you can have the solution if you learn closely what is said here https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad :)
11:52<cemg>i installed bumblebee
11:52<SynrG>dpkg -l bumblebee*
11:52<dpkg>ii bumblebee* 2.8-12 ultra s3kr1t #debian package
11:52<SynrG>that's the free driver.
11:52<SynrG>bumblebee-nvidia is the non-free
11:52<SynrG>so when comparing to other distros, they might've selected that as "best" for your hardware.
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11:52<cemg>ii bumblebee 3.2.1-10~bpo8+1 amd64 NVIDIA Optimus support for Linux
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11:53<SynrG>yeah. you have the free driver, nouveau
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11:53<SynrG>!optimus
11:53<dpkg>The Bumblebee project aims to provide support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian <jessie> and <wheezy-backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee http://bumblebee-project.org/ #bumblebee on irc.freenode.net.
11:53<SynrG>go back and look at the instructions on the wiki and note that bumblebee-nvidia is what you need if you want non-free
11:53<cemg>i dont use nvidia card at linux
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11:54<cemg>i dont play games
11:54<SynrG>then why do you have bumblebee installed at all?
11:54<cemg>if it matters
11:54<SynrG>ok
11:54<cemg>if i dont install it , power consumption goes huge :D
11:55<SynrG>i see. even if you disable the nVidia GPU in your BIOS?
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11:55<cemg>i dont know how to do that actually
11:55<SynrG>and do you have the jessie-backports intel driver?
11:55<SynrG>,v xserver-xorg-video-intel
11:55<judd>Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:2.13.0-7; squeeze-backports: 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2:2.19.0-6; wheezy-backports: 2:2.21.15-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:2.21.15-2+b2; jessie-backports: 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1; sid: 2:2.99.917-2; stretch: 2:2.99.917-2; experimental: 2:2.99.917+git20151019-1~exp1
11:55<SynrG>!jessie-backports
11:55<dpkg>Selected packages intended for the Debian 9 "Stretch" release but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>.
11:55<SynrG>enable jessie-backports as per above, then apt-get -t jessie-backports install xserver-xorg-video-intel
11:55<cemg>yes i do
11:56<cemg>i enabled it
11:56<SynrG>ok
11:56<cemg>one moment i will check it if instaleld
11:56<SynrG>k
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11:56<SynrG>gotta make sure you specified -t jessie-backports
11:56<cemg>already installed
11:56<SynrG>otherwise, nothing will have changed.
11:56<SynrG>ok
11:56<SynrG>but your BIOS should have an option to disable the "discrete" GPU
11:57<cemg>probably
11:57<SynrG>or however it calls that
11:57<SynrG>then you don't need bumblebee at all
11:57<cemg>how can i use the card at ms windows then ?
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11:57<awal>cemg: for enable taping temporary run "synclient TapButton1=1" try if it work
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11:58<cemg>yeap , it works :D
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11:58<SynrG>cemg: i see. well, it's an experiment
11:58<SynrG>cemg: see if without bumblebee it affects power consumption
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11:59<Gfurst>has anybody done remapping of extra mouse buttons?
11:59<SynrG>cemg: if it does, then it could indicate that the free driver is not properly powering down the card ...
11:59<cemg>should i uninstall bumblebee ?
11:59<SynrG>no
11:59<awal>cemg: change the value to 0 for disable taping. a permanent solution is explained in the wiki link I sent you
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11:59<cemg>okey
12:00<SynrG>we can talk about solutions after your testing :)
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12:00<cemg>how can i disable bumblebee ?
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12:01<SynrG>i assume if it sees no GPU, it won't do anything
12:01<SynrG>so there's nothing needed to disable it
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12:01<cemg>then , what do you want me to do ? i didnt understand
12:02<SynrG>measure power consumption with nVidia disabled in the BIOS
12:02<SynrG>if it has improved things, then great, you have a workaround.
12:02<SynrG>if it hasn't, the experiment is a failure, and we keep looking
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12:03<cemg>hmm , i got you now
12:03<cemg>okey
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12:06<cemg>thank you guys , for your all efforts
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12:18<awal>cemg: what I do sometimes for decrease my laptop heat is using powertop utility
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12:19<awal>it reduce significantly the degrees ...
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12:23<jessie-linphone>Hello. Linphone segfaulting in stock Jessie install. Here is my system details and gdb backtrace http://paste.debian.net/342287/
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12:33<jessie-linphone>My port 25 is blocked, here is a bug submission: http://paste.debian.net/342290/
12:34<bremner>jessie-linphone: sorry, that probably won't help. But you can configure reportbug to submit directly, not using port 25
12:34<PovAddict>I'm pretty sure you can use reportbug.debian.org:587 as the SMTP host
12:34<bremner>that.
12:35<PovAddict>also you should set your email address properly, if you send it as From: john@localhost.localdomain you won't get any replies
12:35<shome>Pretty green question, but do any of you ditch ice weasel for regular mozilla ?
12:35<PovAddict>I don't know why I would
12:35<PovAddict>iceweasel is firefox with changed name and logo for trademark reasons
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12:36<jessie-linphone>thanks PovAddict - I don't have an email
12:36<PovAddict>how do you survive in the modern world without an email address? :P
12:36<jessie-linphone>and wouldn't know what to do with replies...just wanted to let folks know because there may be something wrong with a key package in the latest stable release
12:37<bremner>it turns out everyone's idea of "key package" is different.
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12:37<jessie-linphone>have done a gdb etc, sorry if its not helpful bremner - just trying to figure out how to set another smtp port on bugreport
12:37<jessie-linphone>PovAddict: quite well thanks. saves a lot of hassle ;-)
12:38<bremner>jessie-linphone: yeah, understood it's a bit of pain to set up the first time. But you can't really interact with debian without email. Package maintainers don't hang on IRC waiting for bug reports.
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12:39<jessie-linphone>bremner: understood. if someone has a few minutes spare to email that paste to the maintainer that would be great. I'm sadly out of time for bughunting today. submit@bugs.debian.org and http://paste.debian.net/342290/
12:40<PovAddict>bremner: I think 'sl' is a key package and should be Priority: important
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12:40<bremner>PovAddict: as long as we agree nethack is essential
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12:41<PovAddict>hm this is weird
12:42<PovAddict>$ apt-cache show nethack
12:42<PovAddict>N: Can't select versions from package 'nethack' as it is purely virtual
12:42<PovAddict>N: No packages found
12:42<PovAddict>$ apt-cache show nethack-console | grep Provides
12:42<PovAddict>Provides: nethack
12:42<PovAddict>what does "purely virtual" mean?
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12:43<bremner>meaning there is no binary package called nethack, I guess
12:43<mohammad-ghasemi>how can I rest installed fonts to their defaults?
12:44<PovAddict>you mean uninstall non-default fonts?
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12:50<somiaj>mohammad-ghasemi: you mean default configurations for fonts you see in applications/themese etc?
12:52<mohammad-ghasemi>somiaj No, I've installed a bunch of fonts and that caused problems in showing fonts in my documents. Sometimes I see faces instead of characters
12:52<mohammad-ghasemi>!
12:53<mohammad-ghasemi>somiaj Even PDF documents are ruined
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12:57<mohammad-ghasemi> somiaj I just uninstalled all fonts and the problem got fixed. Thank you anyway!
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13:25<lindylex>Greetings All, I installed Debian a while back and seperated the /root from /home and now I am running out of space for /root. How can I consolidate them into one without having to reinstall?
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13:26<kormi99>hi i need some instructions how to make a custom iso that i will add same package and run a script on the first log in
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14:49<Doctor_Who>Hello everyone! I have recently reinstalled my linux on my laptop and installed some programms, set another partition as home and as I rebooted the whole thing audio is not working at all. I looked up a bit and I found out pulseaudio is not starting somehow: http://0wx.org/cf40bf780f40ccf22a701745f94d1fb8/ Can anyone help?
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14:53<Brigo>Doctor_Who, Home directory not accessible: Permission denied. Check permissions in your home directory.
14:54<Brigo>Doctor_Who, you can start checking pulse directory: ls -la .config/pulse/
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14:55<Brigo>check for this line: drwx--S--- 2 jfa jfa 4096 may 1 2015 . (note the last point) did it have that S )
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15:01<Doctor_Who>Brigo: everyone has full permission on all files...
15:04<Brigo>Doctor_Who, too much permissions could be a problem too but "Permission denied" isn't pointing at that.
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15:04<Brigo>Doctor_Who, http://askubuntu.com/questions/338382/pulseaudio-not-working-home-directory-not-accessible-permission-denied
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15:05<Doctor_Who>Brigo: http://0wx.org/fe2fee0633f0b50fd61a1d1fc047ea5c
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15:06<Brigo>Doctor_Who, wrong user it should belong your user, daybreakerflint, not root.
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15:08<Doctor_Who>I guess I know now why it's that way...
15:08<Doctor_Who>I copied the whole 'home' section onto the other partition
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15:09<Brigo>Doctor_Who, copy with cp -a next time :)
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15:10<Doctor_Who>Brigo: I do that right now!
15:10<Brigo>Doctor_Who, even better :D
15:10<Doctor_Who>and thank you very much for your help
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15:19<Brigo>Doctor_Who, you are welcome .)
15:19<Doctor_Who>Brigo: just one last question: run the command as user or root?
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15:19<Brigo>Doctor_Who, i think user cannot write in /home.
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15:21<Brigo>-a will preserve owners and permissions so really it will not matter as long as it can write. :)
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15:24<Doctor_Who>how do I just copy the whole content of home? not the directory itself
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15:24<PovAddict>Doctor_Who: -a implies -r (which is --recursive)
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15:25<Doctor_Who>ah yes
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15:45<Doctor_Who>Brigo: it still changes the users. but i run cp -a odly
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15:47<Doctor_Who>Brigo: can it be that it is NTFS file system?
15:47<PovAddict>uh yes
15:47<PovAddict>don't put your /home in NTFS
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15:48<Doctor_Who>Welp this explains everything!
15:48<PovAddict>the NTFS permission model is very different
15:48<Doctor_Who>yup. So I need to solve it differntly with the share partition.
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16:13<cbaines>I have added a new disk to a system with an encrypted (by the installer) Debian installation. When I boot now, it tries to decrypt the wrong disk, and thus fails. Any ideas on how to fix this?
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16:19<miguel>noalpornoin94.comlu.com
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16:20<somiaj>cbaines: how do you identify the disk to be unencrypted. Do encrypted filesystems show their UUID while encrypted or do you need to identify the filesystem by the partition?
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16:22<cbaines>@somiaj It says "Please unlock disk sda3_crypt"
16:22<cbaines>But above from the information printed out, I can see that sda is not the disk with Debian on (but the blank new disk I have just put in).
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16:24<somiaj>cbaines: so the unencryption is using the device. This means you may have to get into the grub configuration and chagne this. If you aren't able to do this with the grub console, maybe you need to remove the new disk, boot and modify how your system determins which partition to decript
16:24<somiaj>cbaines: I don't know enough about encryption to be of much more help than just a basic idea of what I see is going on
16:24<somiaj>ideally you could use the UUID of the partition to identify the partition and this way it wouldn't matter what you called it
16:25<somiaj>cbaines: are these disks sata disks?
16:25<cbaines>Yep
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16:25<cbaines>Which bit of the grub config am I looking to change?
16:26<cbaines>Is it the bit that says "root=/dev/mapper/cbaines--vg-root"
16:26<cbaines>?
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16:26<JetpackJohn>Hello. I have a root-on-lvm-on-LUKS-on-RAID5 setup and I just upgraded the drives in the machine (with some creative data juggling), but now I cannot boot. Grub is installed and finds boot and the initrd, but it doesn't seem to know that there is a LUKS/cryptsetup step that must occur before it can access the lvm.
16:26<JetpackJohn>How can I make update-initramfs understand that it needs to include cryptsetup?
16:27<somiaj>cbaines: I don't think grub is the issue, but not sure what config controls which partition that needs to be decrypted.
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16:28<cbaines>@somiaj Ok, I'll try removing the disk and fiddling with the config... thanks :)
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16:32<retrospectacus>cbaines: swapping the sata cables on the motherboard is probably easiest solution
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16:33<cbaines>retrospectacus, one of the devices is an M.2 SSD, and the other is via SATA
16:34<retrospectacus>ah. too bad
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16:49<JetpackJohn>I think perhaps I need to create a crypttab file. How can I find the UUID of a LUKS device? "cryptsetup luksUUID" can't seem to find the mapping.
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16:52<r4f_deb>Hi all
16:53<r4f_deb>I have a dilemma here to be overcome: according to the list of stable packages of the official repository of jessie version, the package 'nvidia-vdpau-driver' is a non-free software package. But, perhaps it is the driver required to see some movies by net....
16:54<r4f_deb>Is that dangerous installing this driver ? And, if it's, how to solve this issue ? Not being able to see some movies through net, because lack of any plugin ?
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17:01<canaima>holaaaaaaa
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17:01<canaima>hola
17:02<canaima>que tal todo
17:02<musca>!es
17:02<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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17:03<canaima>no se como
17:04<canaima>hola
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17:07<JetpackJohn>I managed to fix my problem. Seems I forgot to change a value in fstab for the new layout. Oops. Now update-initramfs is doing its job properly.
17:09<JetpackJohn>r4f_deb: If you're asking about playing back "protected" videos over the Net, such as with DirecTV online or Netflix, I'm afraid you're probably out of luck. Those plugins are for Windows only. The package you mentioned is simply to help accelerate video playback to take load off the CPU (using an Nvidia GPU in your case).
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17:09<r4f_deb>Hi JetpackJohn, thanks for attention !
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17:10<r4f_deb>no, JetpackJohn, they aren't protected, just need a plugin to see it
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17:11<r4f_deb>I saw this video through Windows 8.1 (arrrghhh !!), and want to use Debian Jessie for the same purpose
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17:11<r4f_deb>well, Windows Installation I used had 'adobe-flash player' plugin; Don't I have any similar or equivalent to see the same videos on Debian Jessie ?
17:12<PovAddict>r4f_deb: for nvidia-vdpau: dangerous? the problem with non-free software is that you can't know if it is; do you trust nvidia?
17:12<PovAddict>same for any closed-source code :P
17:12<r4f_deb>Hi PovAddict, How are you ?
17:12<PovAddict>r4f_deb: what web browser do you use?
17:13<r4f_deb>I have iceweasel 38.4 here, PovAddict, Konqueror, and chromium
17:13<r4f_deb>independently the browser I use, they don't display these videos
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17:14<PovAddict>for Chromium, install pepperflashplugin-nonfree (if you trust Adobe :P)
17:14<r4f_deb>but they are freely available if you open them through windows 8.1 using internet explorer or firefox
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17:14<r4f_deb>and, you know, PovAddict, if I'm here, It means I want Debian, not Windows...
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17:15<PovAddict>I mean the 'pepperflashplugin-nonfree' package in Debian
17:16<r4f_deb>yes, I don't have non-free access here. My souces.list only has stable and official debian repository
17:17<r4f_deb>I don't know what to do, PovAddict, I'm a bit confused here.
17:17<victor>#debian-es
17:17<r4f_deb>victor, what ?
17:17<PovAddict>r4f_deb: if you're not OK with non-free software, find somewhere that will give you movies without DRM
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17:18<r4f_deb>what is DRM ?
17:18<PovAddict>r4f_deb: if you're OK with non-free software, edit your sources.list so that it says "main non-free contrib" instead of just "main"
17:18<mtn>r4f_deb, you can get a newer version of iceweasel from http://mozilla.debian.net/ and browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash from backports
17:18<r4f_deb>Hi mtn
17:18<mtn>r4f_deb, that plugin lets iceweasel use the newest version of flash
17:18<mtn>r4f_deb, chromium, too :)
17:19<r4f_deb>it is not possible for me to update iceweasel only through 'apt-get update', so ?
17:20<musca>yes, it is
17:21<musca>just use the link from mtm and follow the instructions
17:21<notamea1>Hello I am having an issue I put in leafpad /etc/apt/sources.list and get this deb http://http.kali.org/kali sana main non-free contrib
17:21<notamea1>deb http://security.kali.org/kali-security sana/updates main contrib non-free
17:21<notamea1>deb-src http://http.kali.org/kali sana main non-free contrib
17:21<notamea1>deb-src http://security.kali.org/kali-security sana/updates main contrib non-free
17:21<notamea1>deb http://deb.i2p2.no/ jessie main
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17:21<PovAddict>hah
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17:22<r4f_deb>ok, mtn
17:22<r4f_deb>thanks for help
17:22<mtn>r4f_deb, welcome
17:23<notamea1>Hello to all ok my problem is this
17:23<musca>kali, kali, kali, ..uhmm, i think it's kali
17:23<notamea1>deb http://http.kali.org/kali sana main non-free contrib
17:23<notamea1>deb http://security.kali.org/kali-security sana/updates main contrib non-free
17:23<notamea1>deb-src http://http.kali.org/kali sana main non-free contrib
17:23<notamea1>deb-src http://security.kali.org/kali-security sana/updates main contrib non-free
17:23<notamea1>deb http://deb.i2p2.no/ jessie main
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17:23<r4f_deb>thanks for help and attention also, musca !
17:23<r4f_deb>Nice to see you here again, mtn and PovAddict, Thank you Very Much for Support !
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17:26<r4f_deb>See you later ! Bye !
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17:26<stickybit>Greetings
17:27<stickybit>Windows 10 an my samba share on debian are driving me crazy :/
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17:32<yL>anybody knows how can i display my ip here?
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17:39<nick[0]>I haven't used GPG in many years. I just tried to submit my revocation certificate for a key that I created a decade ago, but I got this error from the keyserver "Add failed: This is a stand-alone revocation certificate. A revocation certificates should be imported to the respective public key before being published to a keyserver"
17:39<nick[0]>so yeah...oops. I probably can't undo that mistake, but is it still necessary to import your revocation certificate to your public key?
17:39<PovAddict>nick[0]: how many signatures does your key have?
17:42<nick[0]>PovAddict: 11, and 4 are very trusted. I'm guessing no one uses those keys anymore, since they're all 1024/1024 DSA/Elandal
17:42<PovAddict>ah
17:42<PovAddict>I had a very different problem :P
17:42<PovAddict>I made a key, published it to a keyserver, didn't ever use it, forgot the private key passphrase
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17:42<PovAddict>couldn't revoke it as I had never made a revocation certificate and I couldn't make one without the passphrase
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17:43<PovAddict>but! it didn't really matter because nobody had signed it
17:43<PovAddict>so people might as well assume it's someone else who made a key with my email address
17:45<nick[0]>PovAddict: well, are situations aren't so different... I can't remember what conbination of passwords I used, and worse, I had some sort of crazy delimination scheme in between each password. Mine should be a fairly easy task for johntheripper, but even with what seemed to be the right rules I got nothing after letting it run for ~50 days (this was years ago).
17:46<PovAddict>the difference is in the signatures
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17:46<nick[0]>PovAddict: my crazy delimination scheme might have been another password. eg 123432p23423a234324s4234s
17:47<PovAddict>nobody can tell if the key in the keyserver is really mine or just someone who typed in my email address
17:47<nick[0]>PovAddict: Yeah, I kinda blew my responsability that way...all because I didn't know I had to import my revocation certificate
17:47<nick[0]>PovAddict: You're lucky :-)
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18:11<jaccob>anyone installed debian on ASUS EeePC, or should I try Puppeee
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18:17<jaccob>gparted doesn't see my usb stick, but nautilus does
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18:18<jaccob>oh wait, there it is
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18:23<jaccob>I can't drag and drop my iso to my usb stick. I formatted it to fat32 and I think that created a single partition cause I can mount it. but I couldn't copy the debian iso over. I need to be root maybe?
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18:24<jaccob>root can't either, says permission denied. I have to mount first?
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18:26<jaccob>unetboot boot make utility works though
18:27<PovAddict>I don't know why drag and drop isn't working for you
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18:27<PovAddict>but if you manage to do it, that won't boot
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18:28<jaccob>You can't just drag drop an iso -you need to image copy using dd or something like that eh?
18:28<PovAddict>of course
18:28<PovAddict>it's like the difference between burning an .iso to a CD
18:28<PovAddict>and having an .iso file as the only file in the filesystem of a CD
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18:30<nick[0]>PovAddict: woohoo! It turns out that you don't need to remember your password to import a revocation cert into your keyring, because it only affects your public key. Then you publish your public key and the revocation of that key propagates through the system :-)
18:31<PovAddict>er, that doesn't seem right
18:31<PovAddict>then anyone with your public key can revoke it?
18:31<PovAddict>or did you already have the revocation certificate created?
18:32<jaccob>I have this key ring thing that always pops up, what paackage is it cause I wish to un-install
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18:33<jaccob>Ok I am gonna install on EeePC, home it works. Should be fine, but last time tried and it frooze at partitioning
18:33<cfleming>Hi everyone, I have a VPS running Debian 7. I've had a new IP assigned to the VPS but I can't add it. I've added eth1 with the IP details to /etc/network/interfaces but when I ifup eth1 it says: Cannot find eth1. I guess perhaps I have to use a specific interface name matching some virtual network interface - any ideas what I should try?
18:34<jaccob>cfleming, when you do ifconfig, you do not see the other one?
18:34<cfleming>jaccob: No, I only see lo and eth0
18:34<cfleming>jaccob: Perhaps the provider has missed a step and needs to add an interface?
18:34<jaccob>cfleming, try a reboot, if it isn't there, can't imagine what to do. Maybe someone else knows, but as far as I know, kernel should do it auto.
18:35<cfleming>jaccob: Ok, thanks. I'd rather not reboot since it's running a live website.
18:35<nick[0]>PovAddict: I created one when I created that key. Yes, I think anyone could have used it to revoke my key (keep it in a safe place!) When you know your password you can create a special type of cert that trusts someone in your keyring with the power to revoke your key. That way, if ever forget your password, of if your floppy disks are no longer readable (no joke, I think that revocation cert is on a fl
18:35<jaccob>cfleming, maybe it needs some firmware, try dmesg see it is says missing firmware
18:35<nick[0]>oppy disk...somewhere...) then that person can revoke your public key on your behalf, even if you forget your passphrase.
18:36<cfleming>jaccob: dmesg shows a lot of messages like: IPv6 addrconf: prefix with wrong length 48
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18:36<cfleming>jaccob: Could that be related?
18:37<jaccob>cfleming, maybe but not exactly, I mean there should be some serious hardware issues where you have it but no driver working, so more serious than some config issues
18:37<nick[0]>PovAddict: oh, that giving another person the power to create a revocation cert is an alternative, it's not a normal part of creating one.
18:37<cfleming>jaccob: That's the only message in there
18:38<jaccob>cfleming, c'mon, it is always full tons
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18:38<cfleming>jaccob: Nope, that's it. There's a lot of that ipv6 error though, so perhaps the log has rolled over? Where does dmesg come from?
18:39<cfleming>jaccob: Any idea how I'd fix the ipv6 error so dmesg gets more readable?
18:41<cfleming>jaccob: Actually found some sysctl commands to fix it
18:41<jaccob>cfleming, yeah right, awesome, I have never used those before
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18:41<cfleming>jaccob: http://pc-freak.net/blog/how-to-solve-ipv6-addrconf-prefix-with-wrong-length-48/ FYI
18:42<cfleming>Seems like a cosmetic error
18:42<cfleming>But clogs up dmesg
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19:03<jaccob>I plugged in usb stick of debian-8.2.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.io and it boots to a minimal grub, how to start the installer?
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19:19<F3d04a>Hello, I am trying to install Debian but my keyboard isn't working. I am using Debian 8.2 Network Installation ISO booted from UEFI mode on Acer Aspire Switch 10. Any ideas?
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19:21<Brigo>jaccob, the installed should be started not the grub, there is some kind of problem.
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19:23<Brigo>F3d04a, did you try another keyboard? an usb one?
19:23<F3d04a>I can't use another keyboard as the redundancy of the Switch 10 only gives me one USb which I have Debian booted from
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19:24<F3d04a>The keyboard works in the boot menu but not the actual install
19:25<Brigo>F3d04a, it isn't an easy issue, check this link: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=198968
19:25<Brigo>F3d04a, it looks like there is a solution for installing linux, but i think not an easy one.
19:25<bremner>what about a USB hub?
19:25<F3d04a>I don't own a USB hub
19:26<bremner>well, they're about the cost of a latté
19:26<F3d04a>Yeah, I'm only 15 so money is an issue.
19:27<F3d04a>About that alternate method?
19:28<Brigo>bremner, i think the issue is otg usb
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19:32<bremner>oh. ok. Some kind of tablet, I take it.
19:32<F3d04a>Correct
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21:23<wangjinzhao>zheshigesha
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21:31-!-notamea1 is "Unknown" on #debian #ceno # #tinc #utdlug #ubuntu-expats #help #i2p #debian-mirrors #debian-gnupg #cryptoparty #Corsair #bws-partners
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21:35<notamea1>Hello I am a newbie well kinda I messed around backtrack a lot. But I still consider my self a newbie antill the day I quiet asking question or using google so much. I cant find info on google about installing memex in kali any help ? Another thing a manual on how to use it.
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21:36<awal>!kalilinux
21:37<PovAddict>!kali
21:37<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
21:37<awal>!kali
21:37<awal>oops
21:37<awal>notamea1: ^ ^
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21:38<PovAddict>notamea1: why are you using kali anyway?
21:39<notamea1>Because linex was a big part in making it as well.
21:40<PovAddict>I have no idea what linex is
21:41<notamea1>What ops r u using
21:41<notamea1>?
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21:46<notamea1>dpkg I will do that Thank you.
21:46<dpkg>notamea1: wish i knew
21:47<notamea1>dpkg with memex why hack it's all there with a search lol
21:47<dpkg>notamea1: I don't know, could you explain it?
21:47<PovAddict>dpkg is a bot
21:47<dpkg>i don't know, PovAddict
21:49<notamea1>Sorry proAddict I speak other languages it's linux not linex sorry about that.
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22:02<jaccob>I can't install debian on my EeePC. I downloaded debian-xfce4-x386-cd1.iso, then I make a boot disk using unetbootin, and usually I can just enter unetbootdefault and it works, but now it is going direct to Grub command prompt instead of installer, I will try to burn the cd and see what happens that way then
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22:08<lostson>try using dd instead of unetbootin
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22:18<jaccob>lostson_, thx
22:18<lostson_>np
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22:58<varabe>Hey, everyone
22:58-!-berserk_ren [~berserk_r@84.240.12.132] has joined #debian
22:59<varabe>I'm really new to linux and debian and I need your help
22:59<varabe>Will anyone try?
22:59<varabe>Please :(
23:00<PovAddict>!ask
23:00<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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23:02<varabe>Okay. I have a problem with debian installation. I have a spectre x360 laptop. So, I was installing it, but Grub installation saying that it can't install. I did it without grub and now I'm simply lost :(
23:03<somiaj>varabe: what install medium are you using?
23:03<somiaj>well image
23:04<varabe>Debian version? Or.. What?
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23:04<varabe>Debian 8.2 With usb with multisystem
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23:05<somiaj>varabe: what installer, offical debian installer or a debian live image?
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23:06<varabe>Live image, I think
23:06<varabe>Downloaded from debian website (sorry, I'm just bad in English)
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23:07<somiaj>varabe: and after you boot into the live image, you are launching the installer by double clicking on an icon?
23:07<somiaj>varabe: no its fine, I just want to figure out which installer you are using (the live images have an installer that works, but it isn't the offical install images)
23:08<somiaj>but offical is probabaly the wrong word. debian also makes install images that are not live images. These are the main ones released.
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23:08<varabe>I gonna send you a pic
23:08<somiaj>varabe: no you don't
23:08<somiaj>varabe: anyways, if you boot into the live system and then double click the installer it isn't uncommon that it gets confused and grub fails
23:09<somiaj>varabe: what you should do is when the live image boots, choose 'install debian' from the boot menu (don't launch the live system). And the installer will most likely install grub correctly.
23:09<somiaj>varabe: unerstand?
23:09<varabe>https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/LROmsqWA/IMG_4651.JPG
23:09<somiaj>the desktop launcher for the installer is sometimes problemamtic
23:10<varabe>That's what I did
23:10<somiaj>varabe: then you botted directly into the Graphical or Text-mode install
23:10<somiaj>varabe: or did you boot into the live amd64?
23:10<varabe>I did graphical install (on the picture you can see it)
23:12<varabe>Debian jessie amd 64 install
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23:12<varabe>That's what i did
23:13<somiaj>varabe: hmm, I'm surprised that grub failed then.
23:13<somiaj>!fixmbr
23:13<dpkg>To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
23:13<somiaj>varabe: anyways if the only thing that failed was grub, it is possible to manually fix this and not have to reinstall.
23:13<somiaj>varabe: if you don't want ot manually mess with things, you could try the installer again, or you could grab the offical installers.
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23:16<varabe>The problem is that I got no idea how to boot my os without grub
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23:17<varabe>https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/UCZXyNoA/IMG_4652.JPG
23:17<varabe>It just shows this thing
23:18<somiaj>varabe: you can use the live system to recover it
23:19<somiaj>varabe: so you boot the live system, and then use the tools in the live system to mount your install. After that you can chroot into your install and fix grub as per the factiod above
23:20<varabe>Which tools?
23:22<varabe>I.. Use linux for less than a month so.. I don't really know much...
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23:28<varabe>Anybody here?
23:28<somiaj>varabe: the only way I know requires a little bit of knowledge with teh command line, using mount, chroot, and debian tools to install grub
23:29<somiaj>varabe: not sure if it is easily explained
23:29<varabe>Should I google it?
23:29<varabe>The mount and stuff
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23:33<somiaj>varabe: Well it is up to you. You have the options 1) try the installer again, make sure you boot up directly into the graphical installer (and not the live system)
23:33<somiaj>varabe: 2) try to fix your current install
23:34<somiaj>varabe: 3) Get the debian installer images (as opposed to the live images) and use that to install debian.
23:34<somiaj>varabe: which one do you want to attempt?
23:34<varabe>The third one seems easier
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23:36<somiaj>varabe: do you have a good network connenction? Would a netinstall image be just fine?
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23:38<varabe>I tried it already, but it my laptop has troubles with drives (i fixed them, but don't know if it's gonna work. I'll try tomorrow (today the connection won't work). But if it won't work: how to install them with the standard ones?
23:38<somiaj>varabe: wireless connection or wired?
23:38<varabe>Wireless
23:39<varabe>But it's fast enough
23:39<somiaj>varabe: it could be you network uses non-free firmware. Would you be opposed to an install image with non-free firmwaer?
23:39<somiaj>!firmware images
23:39<dpkg>Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>.
23:39<somiaj>there is a link for a netinstall image with non-free firmware. Provided that is why your card had issues, that netinstall image should support your wifi card
23:41<varabe>Okay. Thank you. I will try all this and if it doesn't work – I'll text here again in two days.
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23:44<cavalodetroia>op
23:44<cavalodetroia>hi
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