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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-12-09

---Logopened Wed Dec 09 00:00:10 2015
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00:19<encfs>Has anyone here gotten debian to install on btrfs subvolumes?
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00:29<jaccob>my xfce4 panel notification applet isn't addable, what package is need...network-manager for sure I am guessing
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00:31<user>hi
00:31<user>i need help please
00:31<king>kamesh
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00:32<Guest723>i have to install programs but i cant because i have to write password but i dont know it
00:32<Guest723>im abdu and im from iraq
00:32<Guest723>please help me
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00:38<markybob>Guest723, we can't help you
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00:39<Guest723>i need to install program but i cant bec i have to write password but i dont know it
00:39<Guest723>please help me
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00:40<jm_>we can't help you if you don't know the password
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00:42<Guest723>so what can i do
00:42<markybob>Guest723, nothing
00:43<Guest723>ok thx
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00:43<markybob>i wish he hadn't /msg'd me a bunch of times before giving up.
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01:00<razuum>Hello, anyone on this chat server?
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01:01<markybob>!anyone
01:01<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
01:01<razuum>What?
01:02-!-JohnML [~JohnML@ip-109-90-184-217.hsi11.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #debian
01:02<razuum>Okay! Well, I am looking for chat channels, so that I may speak with a variety of Linux users.
01:02<markybob>razuum, your irc client tells you there are 705 people in this channel. asking if anyone is here is pointless
01:02<razuum>Markybob, I'm new bro.
01:02<markybob>razuum, probably ##linux on irc.freenode.net
01:02<jm_>then try #debian-offtopic
01:02<razuum>Lol.
01:03<razuum>So... Linux is awesome... Well learn to help community.
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01:03<markybob>razuum, read the /topic
01:03<razuum>How do I protect myself on XCHAT away from penetrating attacks?
01:04<markybob>razuum, xchat is not in development anymore so you can't
01:04<razuum>What are the chat clients that are currently in development?
01:05<markybob>razuum, xechat pretty much took it's place
01:05<razuum>"xechat"
01:05<markybob>hexchat*
01:05<razuum>Is hexchat awesome? or is xchat better?
01:05<jaccob>anyone use xfce4. My notification area panel item isn't addable, it is grayed out, there must some gnome or other package I need to install. I have network-manager and network-manager-gnome installed.
01:06<markybob>hexchat is updated. it's based on xchat code. so yeah, it's better.
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01:06<razuum>In Hexchat am I still able to connect into this channel/server
01:06<markybob>yes..
01:06<razuum>Anyways, I am looking to develop a way to allow starcraft 2 playable for debian users.
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01:07<markybob>wow. that was random
01:07<razuum>Markybob, how may I delete xchat, via terminal?
01:07<markybob>razuum, yes. apt-get remove like everything else
01:07<awal>razuum: xchat is maintained but no longer developed . hexchat is the new generation of xchat
01:07<razuum>I am new. I need a mentor for linux.
01:08<razuum>Thank you very much Markybob
01:08<jm_>you need to read some documentation too it seems
01:08<razuum>Lol, I just fuck with the codes until I make a breakthrough. Still, I'm going to develop ways for debian users to play games or use programs they want. ect.
01:09<razuum>At least for novices like me
01:09<razuum>peace.
01:09<markybob>razuum, yeah, it's been done. playonlinux. google it
01:09<razuum>this is why i love linux users
01:10<markybob>razuum, what? i just told you how to do what you want.
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01:10<razuum>That was not sarcasm... lighten up a bit please.
01:10<razuum>:)
01:11<razuum>Thanks, Markybob, I mean what is written. Peace.
01:11<markybob>razuum, it's cool, my bad.
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02:20<jaccob>install discs are never good, always best to use netinstall
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02:44<muttey>Whis the hell is this??
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04:19<TheGuyFromThePlace>Quick Question: When I try to log in as my user account it flashes and takes me back to the login screen. This does not happen when logging in as root. How might I fix this?
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04:21<XxgdandxX>hi
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04:23<jm_>TheGuyFromThePlace: graphical login?
04:24<TheGuyFromThePlace>Yes, from LightDM.....i think, Im a bit of a noob
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04:24<jm_>cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
04:25<TheGuyFromThePlace>yes its lightdm :P
04:25<jm_>then check ~/.xsession-errors
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04:25<musca>TheGuyFromThePlace: your disk may be full (5% of the capacity are reserve3d for root)
04:26<musca>df -h
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04:26<TheGuyFromThePlace>I dont think its full, will ~/.xsession-errors indicate across users?
04:27<jm_>~ is user's home dir, so check it as the user who it doesn't work for
04:27<jm_>or as root ~username/foo
04:27<jm_>just make sure you don't mess up its permissions if looking at it as root
04:27<jm_>(ownership too)
04:28<TheGuyFromThePlace>There's quite a bit of stuff in the error log, anything I should look for as the root of the problem?
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04:29<jm_>you can try this then, delete the file, login again then put it on the pastebin -- /msg dpkg paste
04:31<TheGuyFromThePlace>Is there something with permissions that I may have messed up? Perhaps reinstall cinnamon?
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04:33<jm_>hard to say without seeing what it says
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04:35<TheGuyFromThePlace>Trying to log into a terminal with the user but I dont think it invokes the DE, should I do it manually?
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04:36<jm_>you want to login in lightdm to reproduce the issue then put the file on the pastebin site
04:36<jm_>but yeah you can also try it manually using startx
04:37<TheGuyFromThePlace>I think its an authority thing : xauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/regan/.Xauthority
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04:38<jm_>is that from the log or did you run it manually?
04:39<TheGuyFromThePlace>I ran it manually with startx, but I imagine the authorization would be similarly dependent both ways?
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04:40<jm_>does anything else have this file opened?
04:41<TheGuyFromThePlace>Do i need to chown something? I don't think so
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04:42<nex_necis>TheGuyFromThePlace: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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04:43<musca>we need the details, please learn to use a paste service.
04:43<musca>!paste
04:43<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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04:47<TheGuyFromThePlace>I pasted it at paste.debian
04:48<jm_>it gave you an URL back when you did, do you have it?
04:49<TheGuyFromThePlace>http://paste.debian.net/342525/
04:49<jm_>you pasted X log, we need the xsession log
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04:51<TheGuyFromThePlace>I think I removed it earlier when trying to recreate it, I'll try a few more things, thanks for the help :)
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04:52<jm_>just run startx again and it will re-create it
04:52<jm_>oh well
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05:19<KiKumo>Hi all, I just raised a question on the forums and I was wondering if anyone would be able to help - http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=126089
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05:43<CQ_>KiKumo: has the IP address changed (DHCP?) Is the port open? has something in the classpath changed? is something not started automatically that you're relying on?
05:45<Brigo>KiKumo, did you get any info from logs?
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06:13<KiKumo>Ports is open and fully works, this works perfectly on Ubuntu and other external servers.
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06:35<MSS>Hey
06:35<MSS>Worked like expected
06:36<MSS>Sorry for the timeout
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06:36<MSS>So i want to update to the newer version of debian
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06:37<MSS>so called Stretch
06:37<MSS>Is there a way to update without getting the whole dvd M
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06:37<Brigo>MSS, that isn't the new debian version, it will be some day.
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06:37<MSS>But theres a dev version of it
06:38<MSS>an alpha release maybe
06:38<jm_>you would use apt to update from a mirror
06:38<Brigo>you can update if you wish, but you can expect a lot of errors.
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06:38<MSS>Error are my everyday life lol i would expect that
06:38<CQ_>mss: see https://www.debian.org/releases/
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06:39<MSS>Errors, read above
06:39<tsv_n>Hello to all
06:39<MSS>Azul
06:40<Brigo>MSS, if you don't care about bugs, you just have to change jessie for stretch in /etc/apt/sources.lst
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06:40<MSS>So can anyone tell ;e how hard is it to make a window in the X11 and have an OpenGL context
06:40<tsv_n>I have to ask really dumb question: debian jessie instalation for file server; I need to partition /home and / separately; how much space will I need for / ? Will 30GB do or will become little as the time contitues
06:40<MSS>Cause i really want to switch my gaem engine to Linux
06:41<CQ_>MSS: I would run testing, unless you really need something from unstable
06:41<bremner>tsv_n: you could use LVM, then resizing is easy. but 30G sounds big enough for / to me
06:42<MSS>Where goes the bug reporting in the forums?
06:42<tsv_n>bremner , I have more than 30 for / on my Kubuntu laptop, but I was not sure for the Jessie
06:42<tsv_n>that 30 will do
06:42<MSS>And what about Debian 10 called buster can i update top that too or its not up yet?
06:43<Brigo>MSS, there is not such thing yet :)
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06:44<MSS>So one more question, how big is the update to stretch from my jessie? cause my internet is sort of slow, too slow
06:44<jm_>we can't answer that but it's trivial for you to find out
06:45<MSS>Will i get informed by aptitude or it will just start downloading
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06:45<bremner>tsv_n: a file server typically does not need a desktop / browser / etc... installed
06:46<CQ_>MSS: it will be a few hundred megabyte probably, it shoudl tell you before
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06:46<CQ_>MSS: seriously consider going to testing instead of unstable though, it might save yiu quite a bit of headache, and from testing to unstable is a small step. You can never go back though
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06:47<MSS>Testing for stretch?
06:48-!-mode/#debian [+l 740] by debhelper
06:48<bremner>MSS: CQ_: #debian-next is the channel for testing / sid support.
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06:50<MSS>Thanks
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06:51<tsv_n>bremner: yes, but you never can be short on space for some future use :)
06:51<tsv_n>some users can be unpredictable :)
06:52<bremner>tsv_n: so use LVM.
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06:55<tsv_n>bremner: that's exactly what I do now
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06:55<tsv_n>10x
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07:25<MSS>Hey
07:26<MSS>So when i installed my Debian i made 3 partition which i thought will cover Apps and Data and the OS
07:26<MSS>I made them all ext4 type excluding the swap part
07:26<MSS>How can i get the 2 partitions back like normal partitions to put data in?
07:27<jm_>how exactly are they not normal now?
07:28<MSS>They are ext4 mounted each on the file system
07:28<jm_>sounds perfectly normal to me
07:28<MSS>i want them to act more like physical drives and be on devices
07:28<MSS>SO i can store data on them
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07:30<Brigo>MSS, they are physical driver and they are devices. In unix you have to mount them if you want to access them. There is no other way.
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07:31<MSS>So they really have to be on the file system?
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07:36<Brigo>MSS, if you mean directory structure, yes. it does.
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07:40<SS1>Sorry i timed out
07:41<SS1>So the drives i should save my work on have to be mounted and in the File system?
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07:41<jm_>how else do you imagine data getting there?
07:41<Brigo>SS1, yes
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07:42<Brigo>jm_, let me guess: cd E: ? :)
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07:43<SS1>Is there a way to have them separate from file system
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07:44<Brigo>SS1, they are a different file system but one directory structure.
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07:44<Brigo>SS1, and there is no other way.
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07:45<SS1>So in the next reinstallation i wont loose anything on the 2 partitions
07:46<jm_>well as long as you are careful you won't
07:46<Brigo>SS1, you have to be carefull in the partitioning step while installing.
07:46<bremner>having backups is always wise.
07:46<SS1>What about applications, i made the second partition thinking it would be for applications
07:47<SS1>I guess Linux doesn't work this way?
07:47<bremner>well, Debian doesn't, mostly.
07:47<bremner>some people install locally compiled things in /opt or /usr/local
07:47<SS1>SO where does it store instaled packages
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07:48<bremner>normally installed packages go into /usr
07:48<SS1>Which means on the next install i loose all the apps and settings
07:48<bremner>yes, because from Debian's point of view, those are part of the OS
07:48<bremner>but you rarely have to reinstall
07:49<SS1>I never had to reinstall, am just asking lol
07:49<SS1>What about when i update the os?
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07:49<bremner>then nothing is lost
07:49<CQ_>SS1: many settings are stored in /etc, just the packages are in other places.
07:50<SS1>How about i download stretch, would i be able to update without installing it over jessie
07:50<bremner>tbh, I can't honestly recommend testing as your first linux install
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07:50<bremner>*shrug* others might think differently.
07:51<SS1>lol it's just that i didn't use linux since i was 12 doesn't mean its not recommended
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07:52<SS1>Is it possible to update from the downloaded iso?
07:52<jm_>we would recommend you stick to jessie until you are more familiar with it then consider using testing
07:52<bremner>SS1: I'm giving you my recommendation. You can take it or leave it.
07:52<jm_>yes it is, but keep in mind that the iso might not have everything you need on it
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07:53<SS1>So can u give me a link to stretch
07:53<SS1>Jessie is already buggy anyway
07:54<CQ_>SS1: https://www.debian.org/releases/
07:54<CQ_>...and don't be so lazy
07:55<jm_>I definitely won't recommend testing if you can't even find a download link for it
07:56<SS1>I don't have to find a download link when there's a community 24/7 here
07:56<SS1>This is not Microsoft son
07:56*jm_ bails out
07:56<bremner>yes you do if you piss people off
07:56<bremner>hypothetically.
07:58<SS1>What about updating after the alpha 4 version, they would be small updates only right
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08:07<SS1>Is the partition i made for Apps is a waste? how to merge it with the OS partition
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08:10<jm_>there are tools for merging partitions
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08:11<CQ_>should be able to grow it with gparted if they are adjacent
08:12<SS1>is root accessible from the login box?
08:12<SS1>by pressing nolisted
08:12<SS1>not*
08:13<CQ_>log in and sudo, less likelyhood of accidentally trashing something
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08:40<lancelot_of>hello
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08:42<lancelot_of>after unplugging a usbdrive before it finished writing a file, any usbdrive is no more mountable automatically, I can only mount them via sudo on command line after reading the accosiated device on dmesg. Debian Jessie. any idea how to fix?
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08:45<lancelot_of>I tried 'sudo rmmod usb-storage/modprobe usb-storage' but unsuccessfully
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08:49<sCrEaM-JeT>test
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08:49<sCrEaM-JeT>hei
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08:53<sCrEaM-JeT>hei
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08:54<lancelot_of>no suggestions for me?
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09:01<duclicsic>lancelot_of: automatic mounting is likely something handled by your desktop environment, and you've not specified which you're using. my only suggestion would be to reboot tbh.
09:01<stephen0001>lancelot_of: check your log files? :/
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09:07<lancelot_of>duclicsic, sorry, indeed I am using fluxbox under mate desktop and pcmanfm
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09:18<artpepper>trying to start spamassin in jessie I got perl errors -- am I right here
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09:20<Brigo>artpepper, am i right here? is that the error or what?
09:21<artpepper>nope -- just didn't know which channel to join whith questions concerning spamassasin
09:22<Brigo>artpepper, well, as long as you are using jessie we can try.
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09:22<artpepper>o.k.
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09:24<artpepper>ez 09 15:23:26 mail spamd[14763]: BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Util.pm line 17
09:24<artpepper>Dez 09 15:23:26 mail spamd[14763]: Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Conf.pm line 85.
09:24<artpepper>Dez 09 15:23:26 mail spamd[14763]: BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Conf.pm line 85.
09:24<artpepper>this is the excerpt from journalctl -xn
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09:25<Brigo>!paste
09:25<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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09:28<Brigo>,v spamassassin
09:28<judd>Package: spamassassin on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.3.1-1.1; squeeze-backports: 3.3.2-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.3.2-5+deb7u3; wheezy-updates: 3.3.2-5+deb7u3; wheezy-backports: 3.4.0-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.4.0-6; stretch: 3.4.1-3; sid: 3.4.1-3
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09:30<artpepper>sorry
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09:35<Brigo>artpepper, i was checking google for clues, but i really can tell you what the problem could be, i have never used it. Maybe if you ask later someone else could help you
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09:43<artpepper>uploading the spamassin errror messages, I just got errors on the mentioned pages
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09:45<artpepper>well - I looked it up in google for quiet a while
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09:58<okey>HEY
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09:59<okey>How to install java 1.8 on Debian jessie
09:59<okey>
10:00<okey>MM
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10:01<Brigo>okey, 1.8?
10:02<okey>??
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10:03<Brigo>,v openjdk-7-jre
10:03<judd>Package: openjdk-7-jre on amd64 -- wheezy: 7u3-2.1.7-1; jessie: 7u75-2.5.4-2; jessie-proposed-updates: 7u85-2.6.1-6+deb8u1; wheezy-security: 7u91-2.6.3-1~deb7u1; jessie-security: 7u91-2.6.3-1~deb8u1; stretch: 7u91-2.6.3-1; sid: 7u91-2.6.3-2
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10:04<okey>yeah
10:04<okey>the latest
10:04<okey>I did apt-get install default-jre and jdk
10:04<okey>It says am on the latest
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10:04<bremner>lulz
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10:06<okeyy>So how can i update to Java 8
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10:07<bremner>openjdk-8 is in !backports
10:07<bremner>!backports
10:07<dpkg>A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>.
10:08<okeyy>Can apt get backport packages?
10:10<bremner>yes.
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10:10<bremner>instructions are linked above.
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10:17<okeyy>I followed the instructions what should i do now
10:17<bremner>install openjdk-8-jdk (or -jre)
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10:23<okeyy>I saw a desklet that can show u the resources use of ur computer on debian on the desktop
10:23<okeyy>But i couldn't find it anywhere
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10:26<lostatwork>welll there are a lot of them out there conky and gkrellm come to mind but kde has several plasma widgets that do that as well
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10:27<okeyy>Something like this but in cinnemon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSmUv5vPzF4
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10:48<okey>So i installed openjdk-8 still i get 7 as java version why M
10:49<CQ_>okey: look into update-alternatives ... you need to set the default to 8 I think
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10:52<okey>I dont understand
10:52<CQ_>https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch5.html
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10:53<albus>somebody know how to install ksudoku in debian jessie?
10:54<CQ_>albus- sudo apt-get install ksudoku (see https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ksudoku&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all)
10:54<okey>You can use Apper to download it
10:55<albus>but, i tried that, isn't work
10:55<albus>let me see a link
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10:58<okey>So i used java alternative and i got 2 names on the list
10:59<okey>when i set to java-8-openjdk it gives me an error
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11:02<okey>it says no alternative for mozilla after correcting the name
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11:03<SweTai>Hi all, I'm rather a noob to graphical Debian. Pls tell me where the content of the 'quick launch bar' is stored?
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11:06<albus>CQ_, how to install with ppa?
11:06<albus>sorry let my search
11:06<albus>ajaja
11:06<Raiz>SweTai: What desktop environment you're using?
11:08<SweTai>Gnome2, I guess (there's .gnome2 and .gnome2_private in my homedir)
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11:09<SweTai>Raiz as you hang out in #tails too: The Tails 1.7 GUI w/o camouflage
11:10<Raiz>And what you're trying to do?
11:10<SweTai>to save the contents of the quick launch bar between sessions
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11:11<Raiz>Ahh, you want to add launchers to the top panel?
11:11<SweTai>the small bar where Tor-browser, claws, pidgin Keepass and Term are displayed
11:11<Raiz>Yep, just drag and drop whatever you want there...
11:11<SweTai>yes, if that's the name in Lx :)
11:11<SweTai>sure, already did. but it isn't stored in Persistence (i.e. lost next reboot)
11:12<Raiz>Umm, then you need to figure out how does this panel settings get stored and add it to the persistent volume
11:13<SweTai>Yes, that was the actual question: "where the content of the 'quick launch bar' is stored" (or 'top panel' as you call it)
11:13<Raiz>I guess it's in a dot file
11:13<Raiz>*maybe*
11:14<SweTai>At least none showed the time of my last addition to the top bar
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11:15<Raiz>You may get help if you asked this at #tails
11:15<SweTai>I did 2h ago. Just have a look there ;)
11:17<Raiz>Does this help? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=936686
11:18<Raiz>Just try :P
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11:23<okey>How to download a debian release from the dvd repo using uGet??
11:25<okey>Is there a way to download it and having the ability to pause and resume
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11:31<sansa>exit
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11:32<nex_necis>okey: you can use torrent
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11:33<markybob>okey, most http mirrors support pause/resume
11:34<okey>But it didn't want to download in uGet
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11:35<markybob>okey, so don't use it. use wget. or a browser. or ftp client. or torrent client.
11:35<okey>wget resumes?
11:35<markybob>okey, yes
11:35<okey>I just tried it and it didn't resume ill just go ahead with torrent
11:36<markybob>okey, you have to use -c. that's the "continue" function. wget --help
11:36<okey>thanks
11:36<okey>is there a way to limit the download speed
11:38<okey>--limit-rate thanks
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11:41<okey>It uses bytes as the rate data type how to use kb and set the limit
11:41<okey>Just add 3 zeros peace and thanks everyone
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11:56<t0nx>hello everyone
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11:57<t0nx>is there anyone that could help me about tftpd-hpa ?
11:57<rsturm>hi, anyone here who can help me with an snmp issue?
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11:58<rsturm>i upgraded to jessie and now the interface description of eth0 reads 'Intel Something'. How can i change this back?
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12:05<d3nny>t0nx, we can just help you if you ask something we can answer ;)
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12:06<t0nx>sorry =/
12:06<t0nx>its just that I can't find any log from tftpd-hpa
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12:07<t0nx>i'd like to control the logs of any interaction with my tftp server
12:07<d3nny>which debian you're using?
12:07<t0nx>even with the option -v for verbose , I didn't find my logs
12:08<nex_necis>t0nx: nothing in /var/log/messages?
12:08<t0nx>I am using jessie
12:08<d3nny>t0nx, have a look at /var/log/(d|D)aemon.log
12:09<t0nx>nothing at all
12:09<CQ_>how do you burn a CD? just dd it?
12:09<t0nx>I did
12:09<t0nx>its a virtual machine
12:09<d3nny>t0nx, every log with "in.tftpd" should log into /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages or /var/log/daemon.log
12:10<d3nny>you can also increase the logging in /etc/default/tftpd-hpa with adding "-v"
12:10<t0nx>the strange thing is that every log everywhere date from 30 november
12:10<t0nx>I just realised it
12:11<d3nny>Dec 7 10:13:04 s110077 in.tftpd[1452]: tftpd: read: Connection refused <-- my system logs into /var/log/daemon.log
12:11<t0nx>I did the -v into my confifg
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12:11<d3nny>which debian version do you use?
12:11<d3nny>and which tftp version?
12:11<t0nx>Linux 3.2.40 #5644 SMP PREEMPT Wed Oct 28 12:35:52 CST 2015 i686 GNU/Linux
12:12<t0nx>Distributor ID: Debian
12:12<t0nx>Description: Debian GNU/Linux 8.2 (jessie)
12:12<t0nx>Release: 8.2
12:12<t0nx>Codename: jessieyyesY
12:12<t0nx>y
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12:12<t0nx>sorry for the "y"
12:12<t0nx>tftpd-hpa
12:13<d3nny>t0nx, please use pastebin for those information :D but easier is: cat /etc/debian_version; dpkg -l | grep -i "tftpd" ;)
12:13<d3nny>so jessie, thanks ;)
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12:14<musca>hello CQ_, you need a cd-burning application like wodim (cli), brasero or k3b
12:14<t0nx>http://pastebin.com/q9qVNiwH
12:15<t0nx>voila the informations :)
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12:16<d3nny>t0nx, and there are NO messages in /var/log/daemon.log from in.tftpd ?
12:16<t0nx>I don't really get why my logs date from 30 november everywhere
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12:16<t0nx>daemon.log also date last logs from 30 november
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12:16<Glockx>hey guys, has anyone here ever configured Blue Coat certificates on a Linux client? .. i cant make my browsers to use the needed certificates ..
12:17<d3nny>t0nx, are you sure that your /etc/default/tftpd-hpa contains "-vvv" in TFTP_OPTIONS ?
12:17<t0nx>yes
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12:17<t0nx>but even auth.log doesn't have any log after 30 november
12:17<t0nx>I think the issue comes from that
12:17<t0nx>no more logs
12:17<t0nx>since 30 november
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12:21<d3nny>t0nx, hmm that's weird oO
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12:23<t0nx>every log file has last date from 30 november
12:23<t0nx>that's weird :(
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12:25<t0nx>I found someone talking about install the inetutils-syslogd
12:25<t0nx>I am gonna try it
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12:27<t0nx>Oh that worked
12:27<t0nx>it was syslogd
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12:30<t0nx>thaaannks
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15:40<R4F_Debian>Hi all
15:42<musca>hi R4F_Debian
15:43<R4F_Debian>Hi musca, how are you ?
15:43<musca>I'm busy
15:44<R4F_Debian>Good luck, musca
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15:48<R4F_Debian>I have a Debian Jessie 8.2 installation that only use for comparison tests repositories. I wonder if there is steady and official repository of Jessie, a driver can replace the 'flashplugin-non-free'
15:48<centrx>R4F_Debian, Not sure what you mean, but Adobe has discontinued Linux support for Flash
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15:51<awal>R4F_Debian: you are looking for an alternative for 'flashplugin-nonfree' plugin?
15:51<R4F_Debian>Hi centrx, Thanks for Attention ! That's simple: some videos through internet, I couln't watch in my stable installation, because the lack a plugin; after installing 'flashplugin-non-free', it began possible watching this movie; but this plugin is not stable and official,
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15:51<R4F_Debian>Hi awal ! Yes
15:52<R4F_Debian>a stable and official version, for this one is not
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15:52<centrx>R4F_Debian, You could try Gnash, that's open-source, stable, and official, but doesn't support all Flash
15:52<R4F_Debian>so, I can't use it in my stable Jessie Installation
15:52<centrx>R4F_Debian, You could also use pepperflash, which comes from Google Chrome, but is not "official"
15:52<centrx>R4F_Debian, or downloaders like youtube-dl
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15:53<awal>R4F_Debian: you can try xul-ext-video-without-flash, it works in sometites like youtube (but doesn't play them all...). Or as centrx said, try pepperflashplugin-nonfree with Chromium
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15:54<awal>pepper is maintained by google and is up-to-date (it follows adobe updates)
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15:54<awal>somesites ^:D
15:54<R4F_Debian>I see, awal
15:55<awal>sincerely, your best alternative is pepper
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15:55<R4F_Debian>I will try Gnash, as centrx suggested first, awal, for it belongs to official Debian Jessie repository
15:55<awal>sadly or sadly....
15:55<R4F_Debian>I would like not to need to use non-free
15:56<R4F_Debian>quite novice in Debian Jessie yet
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15:56<awal>i understand... if you can avoide it, great so...
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15:56<awal>we all would like to avoid non-free, but.... long story...
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15:58<awal>R4F_Debian: you care about no using non-free because of system stability or opensource philosophy?
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15:59<awal>packages with hug bugs doesn't go to stable deb v.
15:59<R4F_Debian>awal basically, the 'Debian way of doing things'
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15:59<R4F_Debian>'Don't break Debian'
15:59<awal>hmmm, ok. good luck :)
16:00<awal>a plugin wont break your system...
16:00<awal>:D
16:00<R4F_Debian>really ?
16:00<R4F_Debian>awal, do you use non-free repository in your Debian ?
16:00<awal>break a system is a big word
16:01<awal>me, yes
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16:03<awal>I just want to clarify you 1 thing: pepper in stable (jessie, now) is enough stable. if you don't use it because of 'gnu-linux freedom' philosophy, then it's another story :) Thats all, R4F_Debian
16:03<R4F_Debian>awal, in the past, I used to install skype on my 'testing' system; don't know if damaged anything, but vlc, which is other and different application, began presenting malfunction; but I'm not sure that it was because Skype
16:04<R4F_Debian>yes, if you refer to gnu-linux-freedom philosophy, it should be, but I'm exclusively worried about 'Debian Philosophy', awal, not the other point of view
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16:05<R4F_Debian>if theys say it is not good, but you say me it is possible, I will consider more your point of view than them, you know
16:06<R4F_Debian>for, you are a Debian User and gives Support here. I think you know as far as I can go with Debian
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16:08<awal>I'm not promoting pepper; by far i use iceweasel without flash 99 % of the time. 'not good' doesn't mean not stable, it means... say not in debian way
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16:09<R4F_Debian>of course I need to finish my studies with Debian. I can only resume the Debian Administrator's Handbook after the end of my working year. This will only get to from the day 12/16
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16:10<awal>I think your preoccupation about 'flash' is more stability related then 'debian way'. anyway, you will do what you think is okay for you
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16:11<awal>there are a few alternatives for abobe plugin/ pepper. apt-cache search /aptitude search will help you find them
16:11<awal>or via synaptic
16:12<awal>if you prefer a graphical mode
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16:13<R4F_Debian>awal, I intend to give up graphical de after being able to manage the system better through command line
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16:19<varabe>Hi everyone
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16:21<varabe>I have problem with debian installation. Yesterday I had problems too and today I finally installed it with net-installer. And.. It has grub, but when I login I have only text interface
16:21<varabe>https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/TtEw0D8L/IMG_4653.PNG
16:21<varabe>https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/nmR1tzoE/IMG_4654.PNG
16:21<varabe>Our yesterday talk
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16:21<varabe>https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/y1z6zzhI/IMG_4697.JPG
16:21<varabe>Grub screen
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16:22<varabe>Text interface https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/sVaSUHFQ/IMG_4696.JPG
16:22<varabe>Help :(
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16:23<blast007>varabe: can't view the images right now, but had you selected a desktop environment during the installation?
16:23<varabe>Before it. KDE
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16:25<blast007>varabe: what do you mean 'before it'?
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16:27<varabe>In the multisystem grub window I chose it (multisystem on my flashdrive)
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16:28<blast007>the netinst ISO boot menu doesn't have a prompt for the desktop environment that I see. at least not for 8.2.0.
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16:30<blast007>so again, did you choose to install a desktop environment during the install? the 'tasksel' a.k.a. 'task selection' step should have appeared.
16:30<awal>varabe: what you mean by 'I login'?
16:31<awal>hiting grub entry or choosing login to X ?
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16:31<varabe>Blast, I chose before installation in the multisystem menu
16:31<varabe>Awal, hitting a button "Debian gnu/linux"
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16:32<awal>ahm, ok. so you are not login, you are booting debian :P
16:32<awal>not login in X , I mean
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16:33<awal>so you have you selected Kde during install?
16:33<awal>varabe ^
16:34<varabe>Yes
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16:37<awal>if you selected Kde DE, kdm should be installed and you will be able to login to Kde...
16:37<varabe>But I can't
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16:39<varabe>What should I do?
16:40<awal>boot your debian to Console via advanced options in grub menu then check if task-kde-desktop and kdm are installed
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16:40-!-Yst is "Yst Dawson" on #guardianproject #moocows #oftc #debian-offtopic #debian-next #tor #debian #
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16:41<varabe>Can you tell me a command to do it?
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16:41<awal>a command?
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16:42<varabe>Um.. I just don't know how to do it
16:42<awal>hm, easy way is reboot your machine then select 'advanced option for debian gnu-linux', or something like that, in grub menu
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16:43<R4F_Debian>well, awal, thanks for help and attention
16:43<varabe>Ok, what then?
16:43<awal>avoid sysvinit entry if its there
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16:43<R4F_Debian>I will think about what you and centrx told me to
16:44<varabe>That's what I see https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/BLSRCADP/1449697627.JPG
16:44<R4F_Debian>Bye, centrx, thanks a lot for your attention and support !
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16:44<R4F_Debian>Bye all !
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16:44<awal>oh, yes, select recovery mode varabe
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16:45<varabe>Did it
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16:46<varabe>https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/SUkVDCDJ/1449697777.JPG
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16:47<Brigo>varabe, type the root password
16:47<awal>Brigo: please follow him. I must go...
16:48<Brigo>awal, i will try :)
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16:48<awal>i just want him to check if task kde & kdm are installed
16:49<varabe>Got it
16:49<varabe>What next?
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16:50<awal>i have to go now. try 'aptitude show task-kde-desktop kdm' and tell us if installed
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16:50<awal>or apt-cache show/policy...
16:51<Brigo>varabe, awal i think it is a graphic driver problem.
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16:51<Brigo>because that message: registered panic notifier from i915
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16:54<Brigo>varabe, i would like to test if the system boots better with a kernel option. I need you to reboot and enter edit mode in grub menu
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17:04<PovAddict>I screwed up
17:04<PovAddict>I wondered what the packagekit API was like, so instead of searching for docs, I used dbus introspection
17:04<PovAddict>saw org.freedesktop.PackageKit.CreateTransaction, called it
17:05<PovAddict>now I can't do anything with that transaction, not even deleting it, because it seems to only allow the creating process to interact with it
17:05<PovAddict>and I'm using the command line so every dbus call came from a different process
17:05<PovAddict>the transaction-creating process is long gone
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17:07<PovAddict>fixed itself... I guess the packagekit transaction expired
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18:06<mario_mikrob>hi
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18:11<f-a>meh I have ghc-7.10.3 installed in a folder in my ~/ (which is in $PATH)
18:12<f-a>I'd like `ghc` to point it to that, but it points to the version in /usr/bin
18:12<f-a>what is the correct way to handle that?
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18:13<f-a>if I ls -l that folder I see (among others)
18:13<f-a>lrwxrwxrwx 1 f f 10 Dec 9 18:39 ghc -> ghc-7.10.3
18:13<f-a>so what am I doing wrong
18:13<retrospectacus>f-a: create a symlink in ~/bin/
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18:16<retrospectacus>$PATH should usually not include ~/ btw
18:16<f-a>retrospectacus: ~/mybinfolder is the one included in $PATH, I miswrote
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18:17<retrospectacus>if you have just set this up and it is not working, "hash -r" will re-hash your path
18:18<retrospectacus>or open a new terminal
18:18<retrospectacus>(if your setting of ~/ghc-7.10.3/bin/ in PATH is in .bashrc or so)
18:19<varabe>I'm sorry for leaving so suddenly. I just think that for now I'll use something simpler like linux mint
18:19<varabe>Thanks anyway
18:19<retrospectacus>but... the *right* way is to use ~/bin/ like I said
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18:19<f-a>thanks retrospectacus
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19:09<F3d04a>Hello again, I have some more problems with the Acer Aspire Switch again. I don't know what network driver to use and it doesn't auto-detect during setup.
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19:10<somiaj>F3d04a: lspci, can you figure out what chipset you have
19:10<F3d04a>I already recorded that info
19:10<F3d04a>2878D-T77H462
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19:13<PP>to build gui apps in java we use eclipse/ netbeans. what do we use in python for gui apps
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19:19<F3d04a>Nobody has any idea of what to use?
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19:21<retrospectacus>PP: try a python channel
19:22<retrospectacus>F3d04a: what is the line from "lspci -nn" for that chip
19:22<markybob>F3d04a, pastebin lspci -n
19:22<F3d04a>I don't have linux as of now
19:22<F3d04a>I'm stranded on an OEm copy of Windows 8.1
19:22<markybob>F3d04a, then we can't help you. boot a live cd and run lscpi -n or something
19:22<F3d04a>Okay
19:23<F3d04a>I'll save the log to my SD and be back
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19:43<F3d04a>Who was the person who wanted the lspci from me?
19:44<F3d04a>retrospectacus, markybob http://pastebin.com/BjPFWHVQ
19:46<F3d04a>I ran lspci from GRUB2
19:46<markybob>F3d04a, i don't know if retrospectacus asked for that, but i didn't. i asked for lspci -n. and nowhere in there does it list any network device
19:47<F3d04a>That is why I am here, because it doesn't detect it.
19:47<markybob>F3d04a, anyway, it's really easy. once you get lspci -n you can input it into http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ or google the id to find the chipset. once you find the chipset we can tell you which firmware/whatever you might need
19:47<F3d04a>Also it didn't support the -n switch
19:47<retrospectacus>I asked for lspci -nn
19:48<F3d04a>Also I already searched the web for the chip ID and all that came up was a manufacurer in Canada
19:48<markybob>F3d04a, did you check your bios? some can disable network/wifi. or maybe it's broken
19:48<retrospectacus>I didn't know Grub had lspci but apparently it's not very good. Can you not boot linux?
19:48<F3d04a>It's working fine for me on Windows 8 as we speak
19:48<markybob>okay. so boot in a live cd and run real lspci
19:48<markybob>with -n or -nn whatever
19:48<F3d04a>I can boot into linux just not into a live env.
19:50*markybob looks at retrospectacus
19:50<markybob>now i'm confused
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19:50<F3d04a>The best live env. I have is GRUB and it sucks
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19:53<retrospectacus>the debian installer should provide good lspci. Press Alt-F3 or something during installation to get a terminal
19:53<F3d04a>Okay I'll try that
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19:54<twb>I use plymouth to hide boot messages (the "[ ok ] Starting waffled... done." lines) from the users.
19:54<twb>But! users can still press Escape and see the messages.
19:54<twb>Can I disable this feature?
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19:56<twb>Oh good grief, it actually has 'escape' hard-coded into all the function names. Clearly it never occurred to them you might want to change the key.
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20:03<twb>So yeah, AFAICT this is impossible
20:04<twb>lulz, it has: fd = creat ("/var/spool/gdm/force-display-on-active-vt", 0644); close(fd)
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23:15<rifadphotography>hallo
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