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00:28<Vermon2ter>hello
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01:20<Administrator>i just installed jessie. boots into blck screen. don't know what to do. pls help me
01:22<Administrator>anybody even there?
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01:25<helpme>just installed jessie. boots into black screen. please give some help.
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01:32<jm_>please have some patience and don't repeat it after waiting for just 5 minutes
01:33<jm_>describe your setup in more details, which hardware etc.
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01:35<tattoli_>helpme assuming that your only issue is that it is booting into a black screen consider giving it some more time to finish booting before you restart it
01:36<helpme>jm_ sorry, euhm, toshiba satellite, 64 bits, nvidia graphics card (problem might be there?)
01:36<helpme>tattoli_ i've given it time, it won't start
01:36<jm_>helpme: nvidia as in optimus?
01:36<helpme>jm_ i managed to get in the command line
01:37<helpme>jm_ optimus?
01:37<jm_>helpme: so console works? is it graphical?
01:37<jm_>!optimus
01:37<dpkg>The Bumblebee project aims to provide support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian <jessie> and <wheezy-backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee http://bumblebee-project.org/ #bumblebee on irc.freenode.net.
01:38<helpme>jm_ i should have undoubtably written down which exact card i have before getting the new OS... but i didn't. going to try to google my laptop.
01:38<helpme>its not optimus though
01:38<jm_>helpme: did you install any DE when installing debian?
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01:40<helpme>jm_ DE? sorry, new to debian
01:40<jm_>helpme: desktop environment, i.e. gnome/kde/xfce/... - it gives you this option at the end of installation
01:40<helpme>LXDE
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01:41<jm_>ok then look in your X logfile - /var/log/Xorg.0.log or put it on the paste site (/msg dpkg paste)
01:41<helpme>jm_ LXDE, and i believe this NVIDIA GeForce GT 525M is my graphics card
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01:44<helpme>jm_ how do i put it on the paste site from command line?
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01:45<jm_>helpme: dpkg told you to ask it about nopaste or pastebinit
01:45<jm_>or even wgetpaste
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01:48<helpme>jm_ i'm sorry, not sure what you mean
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01:49<jm_>helpme: in your IRC client type /msg dpkg paste
01:49<helpme>jm_ okay, i see, let me install an irc client (im chatting on a different pc)
01:50<jm_>helpme: wait you can do it in this IRC client
01:50<jm_>no need to install it on the debian system
01:50<helpme>on a different computer
01:50<helpme>?
01:50<jm_>in this client that you are chatting with us type /msg dpkg paste
01:50<jm_>you will get instructions from the bot about it
01:51<helpme>nope
01:51<jm_>!tell helpme -about paste
01:51<jm_>check possible other windows/tabs that opened
01:52<helpme>jm_ i mentioned it's a different computer then the one with debian installed on it?
01:52<jm_>helpme: it does not matter, it's an IRC thing, not a debian thing
01:52<jm_>dpkg the bot sent you a private message with pasting hints, find this message
01:52<dpkg>jm_: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
01:52<lindi->jm_: it might be way easier for people to understand if dpkg just gave a URL where you can see the help :)
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01:53<helpme>jm_ how do i get the file from my other computer on the irc client on this one?
01:53<jm_>lindi-: well in 95% cases people don't even find the window/tab with the message, so the only option then is to ask it to dump it in #debian - I eventually do that when I give up
01:54<jm_>helpme: are you saying networking does not work on your debian system and it can't connect to the paste site?
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01:55<helpme>jm_ im saying i'm chatting on a different computer, i tried to download irssi (just for any irc client) on the debian computer an i'm unable too, so probably don't have internet on that one
01:56<jm_>helpme: do you have ssh server installed on debian? and what happens when you try to install things on it?
01:57<helpme>jm_ ssh server not installed at installation, it's unable to fetch the packages
01:57<jm_>helpme: do you have a web browser installed on it?
01:58<helpme>jm_ it seems to have w3m
01:58<jm_>helpme: try connecting to http://paste.debian.net with it
01:59<helpme>jm_ "can't load http://...."
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02:00<jm_>helpme: so maybe tackle this issue first so packages can be installed, does it connect with wifi?
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02:00<helpme>jm_ is there no way to circumvent the graphics problem and load the DE?
02:01<helpme>jm_ don't know about wifi. how do i check?
02:01<jm_>helpme: uhh how is it supposed to connect to the internet?
02:01<helpme>jm_ i installed mostly through wifi
02:01<helpme>jm_ but now nothing works that uses internet
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02:05<lindi->helpme: I'd try to boot a livecd and see if that works. You can then use that to paste log files from your non-working installation
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02:09<helpme>lindi- jm_ what about editing the bootloader?
02:09<jm_>helpme: it's pointless guessing about it if we don't know what the problem is
02:09<helpme>jm
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02:10<helpme>jm_ i see your point. if i'd install the ssh-server (install again), would internet maybe work from command line?
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02:10<jm_>helpme: please don't install again as you'll likely run into the same issue, let's fix it now instead
02:11<helpme>jm
02:11<helpme>jm_ how then?
02:11<jm_>helpme: answer my last question and we'll go from there
02:12<helpme>jm_ its supposed to connect to the internet via wifi, but i don't seem to have a connection
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02:18<helpme>jm_ thanks for your effort. but i think i might be better off sticking to a non-unity flavour of ubuntu for now. pitty though. really wanted to try debian
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02:19<jm_>no problem, as for non-working internet and if you are using wifi, installer images with non-free firmware might do the trick
02:19<jm_>!firmware images
02:19<dpkg>Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>.
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02:22<helpme>jm_ maybe when i have more time and a computer at hand i can spare for a little while. thanks again
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03:59<encfs>I've been stuck on this for a few hours, could someone give me a hand.... I keep getting this error debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Newt.... How do I resolve it?
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04:01<jm_>why did you configure it to use newt? try using "dpkg-reconfigure -fdialog debconf" and select a suitable one
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04:07<encfs>jm_: thanks for the reply, I'm relatively new to Debian, I have no clue why it's set to newt but when I run what your suggested I get the same error.. http://imgur.com/dGydm0L
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04:09<jm_>try DEBIAN_FRONTEND=dialog dpkg-reconfigure debconf
04:11<encfs>jm_: thanks that seems to work!!
04:11<encfs>I have no idea why
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04:11<jm_>no problem
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04:20<anonymous>hHelp me.
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04:50<encfs>Is anyone here familiar with arch?
04:50<encfs>I know the analog of what I want to do in debian in Arch
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04:50<encfs>I want to add encrypt and btrfs hooks to the mkinitcpio file...
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04:52<jm_>are you asking for help with arch? then better ask the arch channel
04:52<encfs>jm_: No, I'm asking for the analog function in debina
04:52<encfs>debian
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04:52<encfs>I'm new to linux so I'm not sure...
04:52<encfs>relatively new...
04:52<jm_>encfs: you want to add your own stuff to initramfs?
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04:55<encfs>I'm practicing for my own system... I've installed Arch on an encrypted partition with an encrypted boot partition , which works... Now I'm trying to install debian from the debootstrap process and I need to do that step but I don't know the analog.. I think it's adding hooks to the initramfs...
04:55<jm_>man initramfs-tools describes it
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04:56<jm_>also all the other man pages mentioned by it
04:56<encfs>so I just add needed modules in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
04:56<jm_>if you need to include something non-standard then yes
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05:07<encfs>jm_: you still here man?
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05:34<diskfish>I recently switched from xfce back to gnome3 on my sid install and just get a frozen mouse pointer before the login screen. I can start in recovery mode and log in from the console. How can I diagnose what is going wrong and get a working desktop again?
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05:43<john>clear
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05:43<john>#ubuntu.de
05:43<jm_>encfs: I am now
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05:44<jm_>diskfish: support for sid is in #debian-next (see the topic)
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06:03<EmleyMoor>I have a router running jessie, with IPv6 and both public and RFC1918 IPv4 networks. The RFC1918 network is currently source NATted using the IP address of the VDSL connection, which is outside my public IPv4 /28. Is there any way I can do it, using, say, iptables, to use either the router's address in the /28 or a spare address therein?
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06:08<duclicsic>EmleyMoor: you're doing SNAT to a public address that is not in your assigned range? how is it even working at all?
06:08<duclicsic>or does the router receive an address for the link, and the /28 is just routed via that?
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06:09<EmleyMoor>duclicsic: That's it... the address concerned is fixed
06:09<duclicsic>you literally just have to change ther SNAT target to use the source address of your choosing then
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06:10<EmleyMoor>duclicsic: I don't know how to write such a rule.
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06:10<jm_>who wrote the initial rule then?
06:10<duclicsic>if you're using SNAT you must already have a --to-source argument
06:10<duclicsic>just change the address
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06:11<EmleyMoor>Drawn from the ISP's wiki... it goes to an interface, not an address
06:11<duclicsic>show me this iptables rule
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06:11<duclicsic>SNAT requires an IP address as an argument iirc
06:11<EmleyMoor>iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o pppoe-aaisp -m comment --comment "NAT" -j MASQUERADE
06:11<duclicsic>right
06:11<duclicsic>MASQUERADE is different from SNAT
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06:12<duclicsic>they are two different targets, though they do similar things
06:12<EmleyMoor>Ah - so I've got some terms mangled...
06:12<duclicsic>MASQUERADE just picks up the address from the interface
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06:12<duclicsic>just replace "MASQUERADE" with "SNAT --to-source A.B.C.D"
06:13<EmleyMoor>OK - will give that a try shortly...
06:14<duclicsic>good old aaisp. was just watching Rev. Kennard telling the investigatory powers select committee why the snoopers charter is terrible
06:15*EmleyMoor is allso watching that
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06:15<okey>hey
06:15<okey>Is there a GUI for wget in Cinnemon debian jessie
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06:17<okey>Anyone?
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06:18<jm_>have you searched repository for such a tool?
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06:20<EmleyMoor>Cinnamon is to do with Linux Mint isn't it? We don't support that here
06:20<jm_>it's in debian too
06:20<SynrG>EmleyMoor: wrong
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06:20<EmleyMoor>Ah... well, that's OK then...
06:20<SynrG>also "is there foo in cinnamon debian?" is not a very useful question.
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06:20<okey>I found gwget but it's supposed to be based on the gnome front end only
06:20<SynrG>okey: there is no such thing as "Cinnamon Debian Jessie"
06:20<SynrG>there's just Debian
06:20<SynrG>Debian doesn't come in different kinds
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06:21<SynrG>software that works with one desktop will very likely work with any other desktop
06:21<jm_>there are other tools such as axel kget uget
06:21<okey>uGet isn't downloading fromn sourceforge
06:21<SynrG>(with the exception of a small percentage of highly-desktop-specific software)
06:21<jm_>and I remember there was another one but can't dig out its name from deep corners of my brain
06:22<SynrG>e.g. stuff that integrates with desktop-foo's panel, or so
06:22<okey>I have just tried to print down the system and the desktop env together thats all
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06:23<okey>wget is so suitable for me, it works but i need a more usuable alternative to catch links fromm iceweasel
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06:43<dumas69> /budus macro setup
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06:56<hatenames>I downloaded a file and then when i was going to extract it i t says an error occured whikle extracting the files
06:57<hatenames>the file is an archive .tar.x
06:57<hatenames>xz*
06:59<towo^work>and your command to extract is?
06:59<hatenames>So i just renamed it and it worked, there was a name overflow, the string was too long
06:59<hatenames>Thanks anyway
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07:05<hatenames>where does the apper app puts all the downloads?
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08:06<oldself>hello, new user trying to install nvidia drivers. Working around a host of problems and finally got to this: "The kernel header file /lib/modules* does not exist"
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08:08<SynrG>oldself: Install how?
08:08<oldself>using bash on a .run file
08:08<jm_>stop immediately
08:08<jm_>https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
08:09<SynrG>Which card model?
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08:09<oldself>660GTX
08:09<jm_>heh I have that
08:10<SynrG>That's supported by the Debian non-free driver
08:10<oldself>presumably I haven't destroyed my OS already, though I have a faint idea of what I was doing with the compiler. lol
08:10<SynrG>Use that link jm_ gave
08:10<SynrG>oldself: possibly not. The Debian package tries to clean up your mess
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08:11<SynrG>Tries is the operative word
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08:11<oldself>good o, this has been an incredibly difficult install. but I'm learning the system at least
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08:12<oldself>time to crack down on this one, I might be back with an automounting problem
08:12<SynrG>Good luck.
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10:12<oldself>hello, The kernel header file '/lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/build/include/linux/version.h' does not exist.
10:12<oldself>I've installed the headers package
10:13<oldself>this is on my NVIDIA driver installation
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12:02<r4f_deb>I'm updating the jessie here via 'apt-get update', the current version of chromium is 46.0.2490.71 and it will be updated to 47.0.2526.73-1 after the end of this task. Question: Iceweasel never is updated, it remains in the version 38.4, and it was in the release 42.0 one month ago... Why iceweasel isn't never updated through 'apt-get update' ?
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12:07<mtn>r4f_deb, you can get newer versions of iceweasel at http://mozilla.debian.net/ the version in jessie is long term support version
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12:53<EmleyMoor>I have both a pppoe and a ppp-emulating mobile connection on my router, the latter intended to act as a backup, but it doesn't "kick in" - what should I do to make it do so? (It's not attempting, rather than failing)
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13:08<duclicsic>EmleyMoor: well when you're operating on the primary connection presumably the router has a default route in its routing table that directs all of your traffic out of that interface, if that goes down you need to have something switch the route to point out of the secondary interfacce
13:09<duclicsic>there are many ways you could go about doing that
13:09<duclicsic>i don't know if AA have anything particular in mind though, i'd guess they must publish some info on how it's intended to work if this is actually part of the service..
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13:10<duclicsic>fortunately with the primary connection being pppoe i'd expect the interface to disappear when it goes down, and it'll probably withdraw the route too
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13:20<r4f_deb>I was absent here, sorry mtn
13:20<r4f_deb>thanks for help
13:20<mtn>r4f_deb, welcome
13:21<r4f_deb>nice to see you here, mtn
13:21<r4f_deb>unfortunately, I can't continue here. job duties
13:21<r4f_deb>see you
13:21<r4f_deb>Bye !
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13:59<EmleyMoor>I need to set some routes on my system to exist on an "as permanent as possible" basis - IPv4 default routes with different metrics via two ppp interfaces, so that they do not "disappear", or at least, they reappear, if one interface goes down.
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14:09<mstuchli>Hey, I'm having trouble on my digital ocean droplet -- apt-get install gcc gets me Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/l/linux/linux-libc-dev_3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u5_amd64.deb 404 Not Found.
14:10<mstuchli>Any idea what could be wrong?
14:10<Brigo>EmleyMoor, are you using ifupdown?
14:10<Gfurst>hey guys, can someone explain to me why the windows installer is friggin terrible?
14:10<EmleyMoor>Brigo: How would I, with ppp?
14:10<Brigo>mstuchli, did you try apt-get update first?
14:10*mstuchli tryin'
14:11<Brigo>EmleyMoor, i mean the debian network manager ...
14:11<mstuchli>Brigo: Aha! :) Thanks, I'm new to apt-get
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14:11<Gfurst>I have to install win7 on my dad's machine, new all-in-one pc I got him, the thing is a nightmare to install, usb mouse and keyboard aren't working, I know this is not the appropriate place to ask, but maybe some of you needed to deal with this too?
14:11<EmleyMoor>Brigo: And I mean "I don't know"
14:11<Brigo>mstuchli, that not found is because that package exist no more in the repo, it was replaced by a new one :)
14:12<Brigo>EmleyMoor, where or how do you configure your network interfaces?
14:12<mstuchli>Gotcha :)
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14:13<EmleyMoor>Brigo: These particular interfaces are brought up by pppd. They are not configured as per the rest..eo
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14:14<Brigo>EmleyMoor, you can install iptables-persistent package that will manage iptables rules during shutdown and boot.
14:14<EmleyMoor>Brigo: This isn't iptables-related
14:14<EmleyMoor>(unless you can tell me how to make it so)
14:15<Brigo>EmleyMoor, sorry, rules.
14:15<EmleyMoor>Brigo: Still not
14:15<Brigo>EmleyMoor, then you should configure them using the some tool you have used to configure pppd
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14:15<EmleyMoor>I haven't used a "tool"
14:15<Brigo>EmleyMoor, did you check /etc/ppp
14:16<Brigo>?
14:16<EmleyMoor>I can't see how to achieve therein what I need. Anyway, I need to put this on hold at present as a more urgent problem has arisen
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14:17<Brigo>EmleyMoor, i think you can launch script when the pppd goes up and down,easily.
14:17<Brigo>from within that directory, in ip-up.d/ etc.
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14:18<EmleyMoor>Yes but it's buggering it up...
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14:21<Brigo>EmleyMoor, if you know how to add this routes with route or ip commad, it is just write it on a file an give it execution permission.
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14:36<shome>Anyone ever experience burnout ?
14:36<shome>exhaustion, etc. And need to step away from this stuff ?
14:36<SirDoedelbottom>hey there, is this the right place to ask what I need to google that my debian doesn't boot into the GUI? Do I need to deactivate the whole X server? or just part of the gui?
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14:38<shome>SirDoedelbottom: Did you try to drop into a terminal ?
14:38<shome>Ctrl +alt + f1 ?
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14:39<SirDoedelbottom>yeah, but then the gui is still running
14:39<shome>You try killing it and starting it again ?
14:39<SirDoedelbottom>I'd like to boot into the "Ctrl+Alt+F1"
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14:40<oldself>my newbie suggest would be #service *kdm* stop
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14:40<oldself>*kdm* might be lightdm, gdm, depending on your GUI choice
14:40<SirDoedelbottom>it seams to be lightdm
14:41<EmleyMoor>How does irssi determine which IP address to connect using, in jessie? I have a user who seems to be connecting using a 192.168 address, which is not desireable
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14:49<blast007>EmleyMoor: what do you mean, exactly? The IRC server wouldn't be seeing a 192.168.x.x address unless it was on the same LAN as the user.
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14:51<secundaria>hola
14:52<EmleyMoor>blast007: It isn't, but it's obviously being used as he's getting NATted to my router's address, rather than the actual client machine's public IPv4 address
14:52<secundaria>hello
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14:52<secundaria>hola
14:53<secundaria>como hago para saber la version de huaira?
14:53<secundaria>como se si s de 32 o 64bits?
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14:53<blast007>EmleyMoor: so the client machine itself has a public IPv4 address, or the router has that public IPv4 address and has a static NAT to that client machine?
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14:54<EmleyMoor>The client machine itself has a public IPv4 address
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15:14<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... yes, irssi is definitely using the wrong IPv4 address on this box
15:14<EmleyMoor>In fact, the whole box is
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15:15<EmleyMoor>So, forget irssi... how do I set the default IPv4 address to use for outward connections?
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15:29<EmleyMoor>Anyone able to advise me?
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15:31<giovanny>hey guys, anybody can help me with this error?
15:31<giovanny>*error* radeon kernel modesetting for r600 or later requires firmware-linux-nonfree
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15:36<Brigo>giovanny, that one is easy: you have to install that package: firmware-linux-nonfree
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15:40<giovanny>All this should be manually or can i add a link to my /etc/apt/source.list ?
15:41<giovanny>and then aptitude update and the install the package referenced in my source.list ?
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15:46<Brigo>giovanny, you have to add non-free repos
15:46<Brigo>!non-free
15:46<dpkg>[non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/
15:46<Brigo>!non-free sources
15:46<dpkg>Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «aptitude update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>.
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15:47<Raiz>Brigo: you can PM the bot
15:47<Brigo>Raiz, i was showing it to giovanny
15:47<Raiz>Oh, alright
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15:49<R4F_Debian>Hi all. I would like to know about status of this kernel linux release: Linux r4f 4.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.2.6-1~bpo8+1 (2015-11-18) x86_64 GNU/Linux. Is that instable ?
15:50<Brigo>,kernels
15:50<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.3.0-trunk-686-pae (4.3-1~exp2); sid: 4.2.0-1-686-pae (4.2.6-3); stretch: 4.2.0-1-686-pae (4.2.6-1); jessie-backports: 4.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.2.6-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u6); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u6~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u6)
15:51<Brigo>R4F_Debian, it is a jessie backport
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15:52<R4F_Debian>Hi Brigo, thanks for attention !
15:52<Brigo>R4F_Debian, yw :)
15:52<R4F_Debian>ok Brigo, I don't know backport concept yet, just tested it in this Jessie installation
15:52<EmleyMoor>I will try to resolve my routes issue again tomorrow and will return if I keep having problems...
15:53<Brigo>R4F_Debian, backports is the Debian way of installing new software in a stable system.
15:53<EmleyMoor>Just resolved my "wrong IP used" issue - dodgy NAT rule...
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15:54<R4F_Debian>after this upgrade I've done with non-free repositories, my Testing System became quite instable, and supertux kart does open anymore. It requires OpenGL3.1 or higher
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15:54<Brigo>R4F_Debian, if you are using testing you shouldn't have been using backports.
15:55<Brigo>R4F_Debian, and, yes, tesgting is unstable, it is just for testing puupouses :)
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15:56<R4F_Debian>Brigo, that's why supertux kart doesn't open anymore ?
15:56<R4F_Debian>I hope re-installing it again on this Jessie testing will fix this issue
15:56<Brigo>i don't know why that game dosen't open anymore, sorry :)
15:56<Brigo>R4F_Debian, i doubt it, but you can try :)
15:56<R4F_Debian>ok Brigo, Thanks for Help ! Nice to see you here !
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15:57<wompa>Jessie is not testing anymore, it is the current release.
15:57<R4F_Debian>Hi wompa ! Yes, you are right, I know about it, wompa
15:57<Brigo>R4F_Debian, you are wellcome :)
15:58<R4F_Debian>the term 'testing' is related to this jessie stable installation I use for testing
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15:58<awal>Having jessie & sid in same machine, jessie installed first, is it possible to make jessie grub the one that handles the machine?
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15:59<wompa>R4F_Debian, then you will confuse some people, because most people here associate 'testing' with the testing branch of Debian.
16:00<R4F_Debian>yes, wompa, you are right. Perhaps I will adopt other terminology for this purpose...
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16:00<R4F_Debian>Thanks for adivce, wompa !
16:01<R4F_Debian>and sorry about mistake
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16:02<Brigo>awal, of course, install it from jessie session.
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16:04<R4F_Debian>Bye all !
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16:09<awal>Brigo: when I installed jessie, jessie installer installed its grub, v. X, and then I installed sid and sid installed it's grub, v. X. Sid grub overwritten jessie grub; so when I boot my machine I see sid grub. So what I should do exactly ? just be in jessie session and run "grub-install /dev/sda && update-grub"? Then jessie grub will overwrite the sid one?
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16:45<Brigo>awal, that's my bet :)
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16:47<awal>Brigo: ;)
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18:55<Yst>Whenever my Wi-Fi router restarts, my headless Debian machine loses connection and I cannot get it to reconnect without rebooting it. Is there a way to make it automatically reconnect to Wi-Fi?
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18:57<somiaj>Yst: you can use wpa_supplicant in roam mode, and it will reconnenct for you, unless you wanted to run network manager
18:58<Yst>somiaj: Sweet. Thank you! I will try wpa_suplicant. Network managers usually have a GUI, right?
18:59<somiaj>Yst: no, network manager has a cli client
19:00<somiaj>the server just runs in the backbround and you can control it via a cli tool
19:00<Yst>Oh, awesome.
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19:01<somiaj>but wpa_supplicant has its own wireless daemon by urnning it in roam mode, there is more info on this in /usr/share/doc/wpa-supplicant
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19:04<Yst>Okay, sweet. I was just looking for that, "aptitude search wpa_supplicant" and "which wpa_supplicant" were not giving any results.
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19:08<Yst>Even after installing wpasupplicant, that file does not exist.
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19:12<retrospectacus>Yst: dpkg -L [pkgname] will list files installed by a package
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19:15<somiaj>Yst: sorry it is just /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant
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19:34<Watr>hi
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19:35<Watr>hi
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19:35<centrx>!hi
19:35<dpkg>hello, centrx
19:36<Watr>hi centrx
19:36<Watr>ho'ws it going?
19:36<Watr>705 users and this is all the chat thats going on?
19:36<Watr>chatty bunch
19:36<Watr>i guess you all need to belong :p
19:36<Watr>lol
19:37<Watr>cheers
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19:37<abrotman>awesome
19:37<centrx>Many people on IRC lurk or leave their computers connected
19:37<abrotman>some people with IRC clients ignore joins/parts
19:37<centrx>This channel is for Debian support and discussion, so if people aren't online or don't have questions about Debian it's not very active
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19:41<retrospectacus>that was the guy !chat is for
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19:58<gxg>Debian is just such a well documented distro that no one even has questions.
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20:26<Yst>Great. After setting up wpasupplicant, my Wi-Fi connection no longer works. Any ideas for debugging?
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21:45<anonymous>hi men
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22:48<darknish>so
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23:55<thejinx>I have an interesting issue. When I open a terminal I can not use sudo until I su to root then su back to my user. Any ideas?
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