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00:08<anonymous>h
00:08<anonymous>hola
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00:41<peter1858>having trouble getting source packages. In Synaptic, when I change the repositories to a repository set up for deb-src all I get is a whole lot of insalled packages (not source) and no packages which aren't installed
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00:46<twb>peter1858: please clarify; what step isn't working?
00:47<twb>peter1858: I don't know if synaptic even supports sources; does e.g. "apt-get source mg" work?
00:50<peter1858>twb, apt-get source mg -> "Unable to find a source package for mg"
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00:51<twb>OK, have you done an "apt-get update" lately
00:54<peter1858>twb, did an "apt-get update" now, ran "apt-get source mg", same thing
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00:56<twb>OK, please pastebin output of this: grep -rH ^ /etc/apt/sources.list*
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00:56<twb>Or shorter: grep -rHEv '^[[:space:]]*(#|$)' --exclude '*~' /etc/apt/sources.list*
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01:00<peter1858>twb, before that, I went into Synaptic, changed repositories back to deb repositories (deb-src repository was selected so that seems to have been a problem). Then "apt-get source mg" -> "E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list"
01:00<peter1858>twb, /etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib
01:00<peter1858>/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib
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01:01<twb>OK there is only "deb" there, no "deb-src"
01:01<twb>You need to have both
01:02<mrzegocki>hello, why i can't load network configuration from /etc/network/interfaces..? I tried make bonding on two network interfaces. config files http://pastebin.com/ErQbUiXA
01:02<twb>peter1858: something like this: http://sprunge.us/IZHT
01:03<twb>mrzegocki: is the problem that you're explicitly starting eth4 and eth5 directly, as well as part of bond0?
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01:04<peter1858>twb, these were the one's that I had before /etc/apt/sources.list:deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates contrib main
01:04<peter1858>twb, /etc/apt/sources.list:deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates contrib main
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01:04<twb>bitlan: hm, I have something like this: http://sprunge.us/IWMQ
01:04<jm_>jessie-updates is not full repository specification
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01:04<twb>peter1858: you need jessie as well as jessie-updates and jessie/updates
01:04<twb>peter1858: all three are important
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01:05<twb>peter1858: maybe just dump in what I pasted, then add contrib :-)
01:05<bitlan>twb: thanks, but i try copy configuration from different machine (on them it's working corretly) - sorry for my english..
01:05<peter1858>I thought that was strange
01:05<peter1858>twb, thanks
01:06<twb>bitlan: no problem. I do not know bridges much :-(
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01:10<bitlan>twb: thanks for sugestion :) i think the night will be long... it's time to get up and go to the work
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01:39<chukino>Holaa
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01:57<twb>Aaaaah. It's libxss1 not libss1
01:58<twb>derp-a-derp-a.
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02:31<shahbaz>hello...give me an unaffliated cloak please
02:32<twb>shahbaz: try #oftc
02:32<twb>What happened to the fuse group? In wheezy, installing ntfs-3g made the fuse group appear. In jessie, >I dunno<
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02:37<twb>Grr.. "* Dropping fuse group (Closes: #733312)."
02:37<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/733312 in fuse (closed): «fuse: Please reconsider the permissions on /dev/fuse and /bin/fusermount»; severity: normal; opened: 2013-12-28; last modified: 2014-04-29.
02:37<twb>Now I need to understand something else
02:37<twb>Oh, brilliant. Now /dev/fuse is WORLD WRITABLE.
02:38<twb>Sigh.
02:38<twb>Good thing I already learned all the ways udev rules are broken, and know about how to use the biggest available hammer to override it
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02:42<twb>Somebody fix judd to use https links
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03:14<spazz>wewe
03:14<spazz>how italian?
03:14<jm_>!it
03:14<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
03:15<spazz>many thanks
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03:21<joelkraehemann>what does this line mean as debugging with gdb: No such file or directory
03:21<joelkraehemann>0x00007ffff7b594a2 in ipatch_file_real_identify (file=0x7ffff0006000 [IpatchFile], byext=0, err=0x7ffff58a8ef0) at IpatchFile.c:775
03:21<joelkraehemann>775 IpatchFile.c: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden.
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03:23<joelkraehemann>I'm trying to debug a problem by doing a test case https://github.com/gsequencer/gsequencer/blob/0.6.0/src/ags/test/ags_libinstpatch_test.c
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03:24<jm_>!localized errors
03:24<dpkg>Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install»
03:24<joelkraehemann>775 IpatchFile.c: No such file or directory
03:24<joelkraehemann>I have just translated it within first sentence
03:25<joelkraehemann>but thank you for the command
03:27<jm_>it means it can't find the source file (it gives you its name)
03:28<joelkraehemann>I compile as following: gcc -g ags_libinstpatch_test.c -o ags_libinstpatch_test `pkg-config --cflags --libs glib-2.0 gobject-2.0 libinstpatch-1.0 cunit` -pthread
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03:31<jm_>it's probably part of the libinstpatch-1.0 source code
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03:33<joelkraehemann>I have downloaded libinstpatch-1.0-0-dbg
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03:33<joelkraehemann>where to place the source code?
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03:36<joelkraehemann>is there a gdb help channel?
03:37<jm_>no idea, but gdb info pages are pretty decent
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03:42<Crules>I tried installing aptitude, but i get no candidate found
03:42<Crules>Package aptitude has no installation candidate
03:42<Crules>I should switch to debian-next peace
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03:45<joelkraehemann>you can specify by dir command in gdb command line
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03:52<Crules>U addressing to me?
03:53<jm_>no
03:53<Crules>AH okey cause i timed out
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04:27<Crules>How to install other desktops from the DVD1 iso without re-downloading them?
04:28<jm_>have you verified dvd1 actually includes those?
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04:29<EmleyMoor>I have a question about pppd - how (if at all) is it decided to start connections at boot time? I'm trying to plan my primary/backup connection strategy and to get it right, I need to be sure of this.
04:29<jm_>EmleyMoor: I put it in /etc/network/interfaces
04:30<EmleyMoor>jm_: I've never seen that done with ppp connections... can you show me?
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04:33<jm_>EmleyMoor: like explained here https://wiki.debian.org/PPPoE - I am at work now so I don't have it handy at the moment
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04:33<EmleyMoor>OK, will have a look at that while I verify a few points with my ISP.
04:34<jm_>I can certainly tar it up and put it on the paste site if I remember to bring it with me
04:34<Crules>It does include them, they are also in the installation
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04:35<jm_>then apt will be able to use the CD/DVD
04:35<jm_>as long as you haven't removed it from sources.list
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04:35<Crules>I tried mounting the Iso to a mount point and then adding it to sources, but it says they are expired of 48days
04:35<jm_>no, apt mounts it on its own
04:36<Crules>I dont have the dvd, i have an iso
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04:36<jm_>at least in the default configuration
04:36<Crules>SO what should i do?
04:36<jm_>then you will need to configure the mount command I guess
04:36<Crules>I did mount the DVD read above
04:37<jm_>or maybe not, see https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/05/msg00562.html
04:38<Crules>The page is not loading
04:39<Crules>It did now
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04:42<Crules>But my problem is that apt says that the repository is not signed
04:42<Brigo>Crules, try apt-cdrom -d=/your-dvd-mountpoint add
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04:45<Crules>Says no cd rom could be found
04:45<Crules>It also says you may try using -cdrom
04:45<Crules>--cdrom to define the mount point
04:46<Brigo>Crules, -d == --cdrom
04:47<Crules>I think you miss understood what i did, i mounted the iso to mnt/Debian-DVD
04:48<jm_>I think you are misunderstanding what we are telling you, not the other way arround
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04:48<Crules>then added it to the sources, as file:/
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04:48<Crules>Okey sowhat next?
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05:25<pudor>hello, ladies and gentlemen!can someone provides me in solution problem with sound in pychess and xfce?
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05:30<EmleyMoor>I'm trying to set up a metric 1 default route to associate with a "demand" ppp connection - but an ip-up.d script containing an if [... for the correct interface and the command "ip route add default metric 1 dev ppp1" appears not to do it... what am I doing wrong? (failure seems to be silent)
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05:35<EmleyMoor>How do the ip-up.d scripts work with "demand" connections?
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05:35<pudor>no help? pitty:-(
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05:36<EmleyMoor>pudor: Are you getting sound from anything at all?
05:37<pudor>EmleyMoor yep
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05:37<pudor>mplayer
05:37<duclicsic>EmleyMoor: what happens when you manually run the command you put in the script?
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05:37<EmleyMoor>duclicsic: It works.
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05:37<jm_>EmleyMoor: and you are sure if condition is true?
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05:38<duclicsic>EmleyMoor: be sure to reference to full path to 'ip' when invoking it in the script, it might just not be finding it
05:38<EmleyMoor>jm_: Yes.
05:38<EmleyMoor>duclicsic: It finds it for the other connection.
05:39<pudor>EmleyMoor: no sound only in pychess under xfce:-(
05:39<jm_>then enable 'set -x' and dump stderr to a logfile for examination
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05:39<EmleyMoor>jm_: Best way to achieve this with a script that pppd calls?
05:40<jm_>EmleyMoor: put it in your ip-up.d script: exec 2>>/tmp/foo \n set -x
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05:42<EmleyMoor>jm_: No output, so, I guess, with a demand connection, the scripts don't run until after the demand occurs?
05:43<jm_>EmleyMoor: this script is run when the interface is brought "UP"
05:44<EmleyMoor>It's not doing so...
05:45<jm_>you said it works for other connections so it must be doing it
05:45<EmleyMoor>But in this case it's doing absolutely nothing
05:45<jm_>yeah using that logging you should be able to see when it gets called (I recommend date command immediately after set -x)
05:46<EmleyMoor>It logs absolutely nothing
05:46<EmleyMoor>therefore it doesn't get called
05:47<jm_>I don't remember if I use any up scripts for pppoe at home, but I definitely use some for down for IP accounting and that one works fine for me
05:47<EmleyMoor>I'll give it another try...
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05:49<EmleyMoor>No, nothing logged at all, so not getting called when I need it to be.
05:50<jm_>are you sure it's actually ifupdown doing it? you are talking about /etc/network/ip-up.d right?
05:50<Crules>I tried everything but still get the repo doesnt have a release file
05:50<EmleyMoor>/etc/ppp/ip-up.d
05:50<pudor>no solution? so will try help myself:-(
05:50<EmleyMoor>If putting it in /etc/network/ip-up.d may help, will try...
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05:52<Crules>What's wrong pudor, PM me
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05:53<jm_>maybe try using pre-up too
05:53<bremner>pudor: trying to help yourself is always a good first steop
05:53<bremner>step, even
05:53<bremner>pudor: also, try to give a bit more detail.
05:53<Crules>Knowledge before experience.
05:54*bremner looks blank
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05:54<pudor>bremner pm or overall chat?
05:55<bremner>overall
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05:55<luichi>hello
05:55<pudor>no sound in pychess under xfce, mplayer plays ok
05:55<pudor>hello, luichi
05:56<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... can't see how pre-up would help...
05:56<bremner>pudor: are you using pulseaudio?
05:56<luichi>if i use su and then echo '0 on' > /proc/acpi/ibm/led the command works well but if i use sudo echo '0 on' > /proc/acpi/ibm/led i get this error: cannot create /proc/acpi/ibm/led: Permission denied
05:56<luichi>how i solve this sudo problem?
05:57<peter1138>echo '0 on' | sudo tee /proc/acpi/ibm/led is the usual method
05:57<duclicsic>that is expected bahaviour
05:57<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... using an "up" directive in /etc/network/interfaces works.
05:57<pudor>i don't know sound settings is alsa mixer
05:57<jm_>luichi: it's not a sudo problem, it's the fact redirection happens in current session with regular UID
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05:58<JesperH>Crules: I use DVD images as a local package repo. This is the basics of how I did it: http://pastebin.com/YTFbG4PU
05:59<Crules>finally, i been searching and trying for hours. Thanks
05:59<pudor>bremner, i don't know exactly but sound settings is alsa mixer applet
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05:59<luichi>ok thanks guys
06:00<JesperH>Yeah, took me a while to figure out as well :)
06:00<Crules>I actually did your steps, but didnt add it to sources as file, but cdrom instead, i ll try yours
06:01<pudor>bremner, but pulseaudio is installed
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06:05<bremner>pudor: hmm. I have a similar experience here, no sound from pychess, but sound from other applications.
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06:06<bremner>pudor: maybe you can convince someone here with gnome installed to give pychess a try and see if there are sounds. It might be a bug in pychess packaging
06:07<Crules>JesperH: i still get an error, release for file is expired, and also a warning as being potentially dangerous
06:07<jm_>I tried it and sound works for me in pychess
06:07<jm_>but no gnome and no PA
06:07<pudor>bremner, gnome is okey, but gnome don't support amd catalyst driver, so only xfce with my videocard
06:08<luichi>is there any way to see for example dmesg changing output like top command?
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06:08<Crules>And some notes
06:08<jm_>correction, it worked at the beginning but now it stopped playing sounds
06:08<jm_>luichi: you mean like tail -f?
06:08<JesperH>Crules: Strange. I'm afraid I have no solution to that
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06:09<EmleyMoor>Is there a way to "nail" a route in place, so that it isn't destroyed if the interface it references goes down?
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06:11<Crules>Check this dir maybe its corrupt /usr/share/pychess/sounds/
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06:56<Man_of_Wax>is there a way to tail a file inplace like: tail -n +2 file.txt > file.txt
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06:58<jm_>Man_of_Wax: you mean as in tail -f?
06:58<berto>Man_of_Wax: probably with sed
06:58<berto>sed -i
06:58<shiva>hello
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07:03<Man_of_Wax>sed -i is super slow
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07:04<Man_of_Wax>i think i'm going to do something like: tail -n +2 file.txt > file.txt.tmp; rm file.txt; mv file.txt.tmp file.txt
07:04<berto>I don't think you need the rm, but else that's probably the easiest option
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07:05<Man_of_Wax>ok thanks
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07:35<bitlan>any one config huawei switch ?
07:36<Raiz>;3Q
07:36<Raiz>Whhops
07:36<Raiz>Sorry
07:36<jm_>bitlan: that's off topic for #debian
07:37<Raiz>bitlan: #debian-offtopic, #nottor, #moocows, #corsair, #oftc-hacker
07:37<bitlan>jm_: i know but i don't know where i can ask... i have specivy problem...
07:37<Raiz>Theez are offtopic chans
07:37<bitlan>Raiz: thanks!
07:38<Raiz>bitlan: also check this: https://notabug.org/raiz/oftc-channels-map
07:38<bitlan>yesterday i try make bonding between Debian and huawei switch, but i don't know why one port can't be up
07:38<bitlan>(sorry for my english...)
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08:16<p0rk0ff>hi, i have a couple of questions about 'watch' utility before possibly fill a bug report... first, can you figure out from the debian watch(1) man page how the -d option works with persistent hilight?
08:17<p0rk0ff>i think the -d option is badly documented, i had to give a look at http://linux.die.net/man/1/watch to get an idea about how it works
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08:20<bremner>watch -d permanent ? or watch -d 1 ?
08:21<p0rk0ff>watch with -d option. calling 'watch -d permanent' results in command not found
08:21<bremner>ok. so what does work?
08:21<bremner>anyway, I agree an example would be helpful
08:23<p0rk0ff>this is another point, even if you manage to understand how to make it work, it doesn't seem to work to me. do you think 'watch -d=permanent ls" is the right output? i get all the entries hilighted even if nothing has changed
08:23<p0rk0ff>*shows the right output
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08:27<bremner>I get no highlighting
08:28<bremner>then if I touch a file things get all wacky
08:28<themill>might be a different definition of "highlight"
08:29<p0rk0ff>omg really? it's the -c switch that makes everything hilighted?
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08:29<p0rk0ff>i used the -c option too, without -c it works nice
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08:31<consoleguy4k>hi
08:31<p0rk0ff>i mean 'watch -d=permanent -c ls' makes all of the entries highlighted at the second iteration
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08:38<p0rk0ff>yes, it seems -d=permanent and -c don't work well together, while -d (without =permanent) and -c do
08:39<user>hello
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09:14<shiva>pips from oftc why actually new installer do not run lvm while generating initramfs in installer?
09:14<shiva>I got an installation and cant actually boot into my crypt+lvm setup
09:14<shiva>I mean it look like there is no lvm in intramfs
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09:15<shiva>at least I see that when I get into the initramfs shell
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09:15<themill>shiva: how are you installing?
09:15<bremner>shiva: I had some problem like this recently when I got messed up adjusting partitioning. Re-starting the install fixed it.
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09:16<shiva>from live running system
09:16<shiva>basically I think it might not be the case if I run it from install
09:16<themill>istr that's a known problem with the live installer; the best installer is the installer image
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09:17<shiva>ok can I actually run the update grub and reinstall it from the live system
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09:18<shiva>because my machine just dont want too boot into installer
09:18<Crules>Whats the problem shiva?
09:18<shiva>I mean I open the crypt disk but it actually do not create nodes
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09:19<shiva>I emanI probably should just install lvm and then run the vgscan
09:19<shiva>BEcause I would like to install it wothout actually rebooting which just mean installing the lvm package chrooting and reparing the install
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09:20<shiva>installing the lvm regenerating initramfs
09:20<shiva>...
09:21<shiva>I mean its not really hard to genereate new initramfs
09:21<shiva>I get an error also for not being able to recognise my mmc controler
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09:22<blast007>shiva: what issue do you have with the installer images?
09:23<shiva>basically I'm now on live image in installer
09:23<blast007>I'm not asking you about the live image
09:23<shiva>because I can't actually start it working with nomodeset and vga=mormal or any other setting
09:24<shiva>ok
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09:24<shiva>So I start from live installer partitionate disks setup crypto partition and lvm on it
09:24<shiva>isntall everything finish installation
09:25<shiva>but then when i choose boot option in grub I actually cant boot it get into initramfs shell
09:25<shiva>and in the shell I cant find a lvm as a program
09:25<shiva>I run cryptsetup open and open disk
09:26<shiva>but cant run lvm vgscan
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09:36<shiva>I think
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09:41<shiva>ok so what shpud I do
09:41<shiva>?
09:41<shiva>just edit mkinitcpio?
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09:42<shiva>or do I need to add additional module to load?
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09:53<shiva>do I need to change conf or anything to make it work after restart?
09:54<shiva>I mean what I need to load?
09:54<shiva>device-mapper shoul;d be sufficient? or I need any other module?
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09:56<shiva>will adding dolvm to commandline be sufficient?
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09:57<shiva>I cant test it without reboot and I hate to just do it again and again
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10:00<shiva>any idea?
10:00<shiva>I see debian have some special file
10:01<shiva> /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/cryptsetup
10:01<somiaj>you probabaly shoudln't cross post. If you are rungin debian testing/unstable you should be asking in #debian-next, this channel is for stable support
10:01<shiva>is that enough or I need to add cryptsetup somewhere else? how debian do this things?
10:02<shiva>anyway come on guys this is the same thingie debian stable or testing whatevr
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10:02<shiva>basicly I know how I'm doing this things on arch and gentoo just wonder what is the correct way on debian
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10:02<shiva>when I actually need to do it by hand
10:03<shiva>I installed in chroot installation actually the lvm it wasnt installed during installation o.0
10:03<shiva>I mean its ok I installed from live image :o)
10:04<shiva>or I do need to add crypt_root to linux cmdline?
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10:05<shiva>no answer nice. so what is the difference between here and on freenode debian channel?
10:06<shiva>on freenode they actually talk from time to time
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10:06<bremner>shiva: you basically refused to tell us what version of debian you are running. At that point I turned to other tasks.
10:07<bremner>shiva: also, you're doing things "the hard way", which most people here are not very familiar with.
10:07<bremner>so you'll have to be patient
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10:08<shiva>ok
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10:29<moltke>little help please!! is it possible to add a http link from github inside the sources.list and download a newer version of a specific app from there?
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10:29<bremner>no
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10:30<bremner>there might be other solutions though. What app?
10:30<moltke>i want to add tgis (https://github.com/micahflee/torbrowser-launcher)
10:31<moltke>the problem is that if i download it from apt i get older version that does not work
10:31<bremner>what version do you need, do you know? 2.2 is in jessie-backports
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10:32<moltke>so if i use the backport command i would be ok? i have tried it but wasnt sure
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10:33<bremner>moltke: backports are not quite as well tested as stable, but they do have to go through testing, so are reasonably safe.
10:33<moltke>and what about this https://cisofy.com/lynis/. i am almost sure that the latest version is not located on any repositories
10:34<bremner>2.1.1 is in testing; not sure if it's backportable or not. You could write the backports list to request. the address is in backports.debian.org
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10:37<moltke>bremmer my point being is it possible lets say to install it manually then use some app like apt to ensure that i have the most curent version and if not update ( i don want,unless nesesery. to install manualy as i donw know where the proper files are installed and how to locate them in order to delete complete aplication
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10:38<bremner>you could try checkinstall I guess.
10:38<bremner>!checkinstall
10:38<dpkg>CheckInstall is a program that tracks all files installed by "make install" (or equivalent), creates a Debian (or other) package with those files, and adds it to the installed packages database, allowing for easy package removal or distribution. http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ See also <stow>.
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10:42<moltke>thanks guys i would have a look at it. one last specification if i specify for a app to be download from a backport. when there is newer version in an other depository except backport will it be automatically downloaded from there or user modification is requered?
10:42<bremner>moltke: it will automatically upgrade
10:43<bremner>with checkinstall, you're on your own
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10:54<moltke>i have found lynis in strech and sid. if i add repository, download specific app and then remove the link(as to not update other apps from jessie build) would my program then work as being normally installed and maintained from apt?
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10:58<Brigo>moltke, maybe, not for sure.
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10:59<Brigo>that about program working about program update by apt, it would be update at all. If a program is not in already in jessie it will never be, so there will be no updates.
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10:59<Brigo>,v lynis
10:59<judd>Package: lynis on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.2.9-2; wheezy: 1.3.0-1; jessie: 1.6.3-1; stretch: 2.1.1-1; sid: 2.1.1-1
10:59<Brigo>your better aproach aka debian way, is make a simple sid backport
10:59<Brigo>!ssb
10:59<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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11:07<moltke>brigo: so if i understand correct i have to make a custom backport of sid (is src mode) and then use apt (or the prosidure works only with aptitute?) and install normally. could this coustom backport be used for other links (e.x. i want to download and maintain skype from its homepage) (in essence download from user specified link incorporate download and install using a automated insatller (apt / aptitute) {is this the correct channel for postin
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11:09<markybob_>moltke, you don't install "normally", assuming normally is apt-get or aptitude. you use sudo dpkg -i foo.deb to install the resulting files. and no, it won't work with things like skype
11:09<markybob_>moltke, you need to have the source packages in /etc/apt/sources.list
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11:11<moltke>but there is not any mention of dpkg in the !ssb way ?
11:12<Brigo>moltke, the step 4) assume that. You can use gdebi too.
11:12<markybob>moltke, well i'm sorry. i didn't write the factoid. apt-get -b source builds .deb files. then you use dpkg -i to install then
11:13<moltke>nevertheless it there a programm with such utils as to in essence download from user specified link incorporate download and install using a automated insatller (apt / aptitute) ?
11:13<Brigo>moltke, that procedure is for backport packages already in sid to jessie, not for packages out debian.
11:13<markybob>moltke, no
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11:13<Brigo>moltke, most like it, gdebi
11:14<Brigo>you can download skype and install it with gdebi (you have to add multiarch support first because skype is a i386 package).
11:14<Brigo>moltke, there is information in the debian wiki.
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11:17<moltke>so gdebi would be the closest to what i am looking for i guess. brigo i have by my side the handbook and various web wiki open. i just am a noobie with debian and linux so some prety easy thinks seem like hell for me :)
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11:18<moltke>anyhow thanks for all the help i would try to impliment them as soon as possible
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11:37<EmleyMoor>I have some default route issues with a pair of ppp connections - namely, I need one to set up as a "first choice" default route as soon as it is up - I have got that right already, so no need for help there - but the other is a demand dial connection, and I need a "second choice" default route to it so that the demand occurs. I need the route to be present whenever the pppd for the connection is running
11:38<EmleyMoor> (even if it's not in use and is ...
11:38<EmleyMoor>... therefore offline). I have been unable to find an "always on" way of having that route? Any hints?
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11:45<moltke>so i have followed the instraction and i am ready to install using dpkg -i package (the problem: i get 2 options lynis-2.1.1/ and lynis_2.1.1-1_all.deb) wich one i am supposed to use?
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11:48<moltke>aditionally what is the difference between those 2?
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11:52<blast007>moltke: lynis-2.1.1/ is a directory (which is why it ends in a /) and lynis_2.1.1-1_all.deb is a Debian package
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11:56<moltke>yes i awnseared myself as i put the question up. one last question as i install it through dpkg i imagine that there wont be any correlation to apt or aptitute.soo how do i unistall it(remove any trace or leftover files? could autoremove be used?
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11:57<PovAddict>moltke: if you install something with dpkg -i, you can remove it with apt/aptitude
11:58<moltke>so it is as i have used apt to install it normally and all further action could be made through apt(update maintain remove)?
11:59<PovAddict>well upgrade only works if it's actually in a repository package list :)
11:59<Brigo>moltke, yes, onces you install a packages it get into the debian database.
12:00<moltke>so has dpkg has build a tmp repository and used it to install in my database? is that correct?
12:01<moltke>what about the tmp repository that has been build? its located somewhere or it is deleted as the command ends?
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12:03<anonymous>Hello People!
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12:09<EmleyMoor>Does a 6in4 tunnel need a different IPv6 address than my eth1?
12:09<EmleyMoor>(on same machine)
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12:10<nodhcpplease>Hello all. Running debian testing. I have set a static ip address and gateway in /etc/network/interfaces but the box keeps pulling a DHCP address from a server on my LAN instead. I have removed/purged NetworkManager. Is this a systemd "feature"?
12:11<bremner>nodhcpplease: probably not, try asking on #debian-next; this channel is for stable.
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12:13<nodhcpplease>thanks bremner
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12:20<nodhcpplease>any general intelligence on why a static ip and gateway in /etc/network/interfaces would be ignored?
12:20<nodhcpplease>its getting a default gw from dchp
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12:23<roughnecks>Hi, is there a way to fix this? http://i.imgur.com/5vFDzKW.png
12:23<markybob>nodhcpplease, sure. things like isc-dhcp-client installed
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12:29<somiaj>nodhcpplease: you shoudln't cross post, and since you are using testing this is not the appropriate channel. You should share hte contents of your interfaces file.
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12:33<roughnecks>Do you know a way to start that application (system services) from a terminal?
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12:34<somiaj>roughnecks: is acpid not starting for you automatically?
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12:34<roughnecks>The problem is not acpid, but the broken window (I can't even select)
12:35<somiaj>what program is creating that window, what version of debian?
12:35<roughnecks>And I can't resize the box
12:36<roughnecks>jessie, gnome from menu "system tools -> services"
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12:37<melmothX>for what is worth, I can reproduce the same window breakage (jessie as well)
12:37<somiaj>wonder if it is a group/permisions/policykit issue as by default normal users can't control services.
12:38<somiaj>I personaly don't use the tool so I'm unsure with how it works or what permisions/group you would need to be in to be able to control the services as a normal user
12:38<roughnecks>But there's not even an "unblock" button on top
12:38<melmothX>still, I can scroll and click on them in the small child window
12:38<roughnecks>That would grant permissions
12:38<roughnecks>I can scroll too but I cannot check and uncheck
12:39<somiaj>roughnecks: not if the system is not configured to escilate permisions correctly, though it could be some other bug. I'd check $HOME/.xsessoin-errors or other palces see if you can find an error
12:39<melmothX>window drawing is definitively broken, though
12:39<somiaj>roughnecks: you can also just control services with systemctl
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12:43<roughnecks>OK, thanks for your help
12:44<somiaj>roughnecks: yea can't say what the issue is, maybe a gnome user or support channel cna be of more help on the actual control interface. If controling services is your goal I can explain how to use systemctl
12:46<roughnecks>I know how to do that with systemctl, thanks anyway somiaj
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13:22<p1_>how to satisy all depends for a .deb package using dpkg -i
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13:23<p1_>or ap-get install
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13:23<p1_>or using apt-get
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13:24<towo`>after dpkg -i foo use apt -f install
13:24<towo`>it will install the deps
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13:25<p1_>i tried, i is uninstalling foo
13:26<p1_>*it is
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13:26<themill>that suggests your foo is not designed for your debian release. What is foo, where is it from and what debian release do you have?
13:27<p1_>its from experimental
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13:27<p1_>I am having unstable
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13:33<blu>hi guys. I'm running a fresh debian 8 and I'm getting spam in /var/log/syslog: Started Session 140631 of user root. how would I disable this message?
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13:34<blu>ah, a `systemd-analyze set-log-level notice` seems to do the trick. Is this change permament or do I have to set sth in a config file?
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13:59<nodhcpplease>Very general question. I'm wanting to move a x86_64 Debian server instance (vmware) to arm hardware (rasberry pi). My plan was to get a list of all the packages on the x64 box, install them in the arm box, and then move the /etc /usr /share over...is there a more elegant way?
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14:12<somiaj>nodhcpplease: not really, and package lists may not work the best since arm may have different packages (not all packages are available on arm)
14:12<somiaj>!aptitude clone
14:12<dpkg>To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>.
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14:12<somiaj>i.e. be prepare if you are to use a full package list like that factiod that some packages are not installable
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14:13<musca>really /usr ?
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14:29<abi_>test
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15:04<ryouma>i coulda sworn debian had a rhyming dictionary. where is that sucker now?
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15:06<Megaf>Hi
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15:14<ryouma>maybe this means it is orphan? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=363499
15:14<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/363499 in wnpp (closed): «ITA: rhyme -- console based rhyming dictionary»; severity: normal; opened: 2006-04-19; last modified: 2010-01-18.
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15:16<bremner>I think it was removed from sid.
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18:13<ferchus>hi
18:13<ferchus>hola
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18:32<twb>Does gvfs use ssh(1) or sftp(1) for sftp:// protocol?
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18:33<twb>With neither installed, it complained about SSH, which makes me sad, because I want to lock it to sftp-only
18:33<twb>But I suspect the error message is lying
18:33<somiaj>sftp is provided by ssh
18:34<somiaj>or are you thinking ftps
18:34<twb>somiaj: on the server side, yes
18:34<twb>on the client side, there are separate binaries, both provided by openssh-client (typically)
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18:35<somiaj>lots of times you can get sftp clients that support both sftp and ftps
18:35<twb>actually, now I think about it, on the server side the sftp module was split out, so that dropbear can use it
18:36<twb>The gvfs source mostly indicates it uses sftp(1)
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18:37<twb>The build script checks for ssh(1) instead of sftp(1) for some reason
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18:40<somiaj>ahh I didn't know the sftp server was seperated from the ssh-server package
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18:41<twb>somiaj: I'm asking about the client side anyways
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18:41<twb>gvfs is the framework that implements foo:// url handling for GNOME apps
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18:43<twb>"Unable to find supported SSH command."
18:44<twb>I think it's running ssh(1) with -V and then grepping the output
18:45<twb>Grr. It's running ssh -s sftp instead of running sftp. So I *have* to give staff access to the ssh binary
18:45<twb>What a pain
18:46<twb>I could make a wrapper script to make sftp pretend to be ssh, but it's not worth it yet
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18:47<twb>Haha, gvfs is hard-coded to ban SSHv1
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19:07<mimili>hi
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19:15<twb>mimili: do you have a Debian question?
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19:16<mimili>do not
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19:18<twb>mimili: please do not send unsolicited private messages.
19:19<mimili>uuu good
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19:23<mimili>hi
19:23<retrospectacus>hi mimili. do you have a Debian question?
19:24<mimili>not???
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19:25<mimili>hi retrospectacus
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19:25<retrospectacus>mimili: this channel is for Debian support. If you don't have a Debian support question, please go to #moocows
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19:28<mimili>I do when entering the channel???
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19:32<root_>hi
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19:38<mimili>hi
19:38<mimili>root hi
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19:41<awal>mimili: stop trolling, please
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19:42<theelementace>does anyone know about VPN's?
19:42<bremner>awal: do you know the expression "Don't feed the troll?"
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19:43<awal>bremner: you right.
19:43<twb>theelementace: what's the real question?
19:43<mimili>awal: okay
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19:43<theelementace>Specifically if you can set it up using a university's internet
19:43<theelementace>without repercussions
19:44<droider>hi, is there a way to list installed packages that arent a pre-requisite to other packages?
19:44<droider>in cmdline
19:44<droider>say, i have installed mpv. if i use deborphan to look for orphaned packages, it wont list mpv
19:44<abrotman>droider: you can fiddle with the aptitude search parameters
19:45<theelementace>like if I wanted to access a webpage by "bouncing" through University Network, is that bad
19:45<droider>ok, looking up the manual
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19:45<abrotman>droider: maybe something like: aptitude search '~i!~M!~v'
19:45<awal>droider: be carefull with deborphan... it can remove your whole system :P
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19:46<abrotman>awal: only if you do somethingreally dumb
19:46<awal>abrotman: I agree
19:46<abrotman>I mean .. really dumb
19:46<awal>:P
19:46<twb>theelementace: that depends on the uni's terms of service &c
19:47<theelementace>alright.
19:47<awal>droider: you know what is orphaned?
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19:47<twb>theelementace: is your user story something like "I want to read papers, but I'm sitting at home and I don't want to drive to uni just to do it"
19:47<droider>the definition of an orphaned package is quite blurry, awal
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19:48<twb>droider: a package is orphaned when its maintainer posts an O: bug to the wnpp pseudopackage
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19:48<droider>some says that orphaned packages can be listed in arch, using pacman -Qdt iirc. but it does what i am trying to do.
19:48<theelementace>yeah! The library has a lot of online papers, but you have to access it through their network
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19:48<awal>droider: orphaned relates to deps, recommends or suggests...
19:48<twb>theelementace: that probably violates the licensing
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19:48<awal>you have installed mpv with it's deps..., why should be orphaned?
19:49<twb>theelementace: but if the uni already has a VPN server, you can just try being a client of it and seeing what happens
19:49<droider>which package depends on mpv?
19:49<twb>aptitude search '?depends(^mpv$)'
19:49<theelementace>sounds like I'm tip-toeing across a court-room but i'll be careful, thanks twb
19:49<droider>but that is semantics :P
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19:49<markybob>!rdepends
19:49<dpkg>well, rdepends is apt-cache rdepends foo; shows you what depends on foo
19:49<awal>try with "aptitude why mpv", droider, for start
19:50<twb>theelementace: you might want to look into the JSTOR incident
19:50<twb>theelementace: they killed the last guy who tried to solve this problem
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19:50<theelementace>...
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19:50<twb>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSTOR#Aaron_Swartz_incident
19:50<mimili>...
19:50<mimili>???
19:51<bremner>I access my libraries paywalled stuff via their VPN all the time. I am not dead, afaict
19:51<droider>awal: "impossible to find a reason to install mpv" lol
19:51<mimili>lol???
19:52<theelementace>he killed himself...
19:52<abrotman>mimili: Do you need help with Debian?
19:52<abrotman>theelementace: enough ...
19:52<theelementace>sorry
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19:52<awal>droider: that doesn't mean 'mpv' is orphaned
19:52<awal>if you don't need it, remove and purge it
19:52<mimili>yes
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19:53<abrotman>mimili: please give us your question, otherwise, remain quet
19:53<abrotman>quiet
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19:54<awal>droider: pack 1 depends on pack 2 & 3. after X update pack 1 doesn't depend on pack 3. here pack 3 cn be considered as orphaned if no needed by any other pack. something like that ,s o
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19:54<mimili>as that question???
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19:55<awal>droider: got the idea?
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19:55<twb>awal: ah, you mean that a package was autoinstalled (see apt-mark) and is no longer needed
19:56<droider>yes awal
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19:58<awal>twb: something like that . I think it's what droider was talking about, if I really understand him. I think he want deborpjaned list X packs installed by himself but he doesn't need them anymore. He's confused about what 'orphaned' means in this context
19:58<bremner>yes, it's a confusingly named tool
19:58<twb>Just run "apt-get autoremove"
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19:59<awal>droider: you installed 'mpv' and you don't need it anymore?
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19:59<awal>run "apt-get autoremove or purge" if no planing to reinstall it
19:59<awal>apt-get remove
19:59<awal>^
19:59<droider>yeah, but mpv was used as an example
20:00<awal>sorry, "apt-get remove mpv"
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20:00<droider>there might be other packages, im using the search pattern provided by abrot.man
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20:02<abrotman>!es
20:02<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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20:02<awal>autoremove can find almost 90% of no needed pcks , yeah. if you know what you do , deborphan can perform more heavy tasks, also aptitude, droider
20:04<twb>awal: the only failure mode of "apt-get autoremove" that I know of, is if you have e.g. foo Depends x-terminal-emulator, and three terminals installed, it will not remove any of them
20:04<droider>well i tried using deborphan with the --guess-all parameter :P
20:04<droider>it only shows gstreamer plugins
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20:06<awal>twb: right. thing is that apt autoremoves packs but generally it doesn't purge them. I usually use, for example, aptitude purge ~b or ~c for achieve apt job...
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20:07<somiaj>awal: apt-get --purge autoremove not purge the packages?
20:07<twb>awal: right, I do that too (with ~c -- ~b is for BROKEN packages!)
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20:08<mimili>moo
20:08<awal>somiaj: with --purge , yes it does :)
20:08<somiaj>so just rember to use that flag if you want the packaged purged when using apt-get (since you ahve to autoremove as a different step)
20:09<awal>somiaj: good idea, I missed that (--purge) , never thought in include it with autoremove :D
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20:10<awal>dozens of command every day, one gets lost, sometimes :)
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20:11<awal>troll connected in non-secure link :D
20:11<mimili>hi
20:11<mimili>:(
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20:12<mimili>mmmm
20:12<awal>twb: I tought that ~c is for uninstalled packs but not purged, or I'm mistaken?
20:12<awal>:P
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20:14<somiaj>mimili: if you don't have a support question, please keep quiet. This is not a channel for offtopic chat.
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20:15<twb>awal: correct
20:16<mimili>good and channel abandonment : )
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20:16<mimili>:)
20:17<mimili>bye
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20:23<droider>thank you abrotman, awal and twb!
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20:24<awal>twb: bad english here, I misunderstood you answer "~b is for broken", I thought you was telling ~c and ~b is for broken. and seemed not correct :P All right now :)
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20:25<somiaj>maybe you just like to purge borken packages just in case. (:
20:25<somiaj>though I should learn to use aptitude, my method is way more convoluted
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20:31<awal>somiaj: I'm not a debian expert, but I think that aptitude does a more heavy job regarding remove, purges...
20:32<somiaj>awal: My goto moves just aren't to use aptitudes search features, which is one of its strenghts over apt
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20:32<somiaj>all ~b ~c are is there many different search flags to identify/find packages
20:33<awal>I think that apt should purge automatically packs when autoremoved
20:33<somiaj>awal: http://aptitude.alioth.debian.org/doc/en/ch02s04s05.html
20:33<somiaj>that sounds dangerous, what if you missed that a package you want and had spent time configuring was marked as auto and removed?
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20:33<awal>somiaj: I wasn't able to remove the whole gnome and kde desktops without aptitude.
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20:34<somiaj>I think it is setup sane, as you ahve to explicity ask to purge
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20:34<awal>maybe you right
20:35<somiaj>awal: the config files are mostly small, and you can clean them out at a later date (usually what ends up happening here, I go though my package list and clean things up)
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20:35<awal>but when dist-upgrading old stable to new stable apt autoremoves hundreds of packs but don't purge them, and they live like zombies in the system, I was thinking in that when I said apt should purge autoremoved
20:36<somiaj>awal: what do you mean the live like zombies? The pakcage has been removed, it is no longer on your system. Just some config files.
20:37<awal>bad english somiaj, excuse, I mean they still in the system,
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20:40<awal>anyway, I can tell that my system needs both utilities (apt & aptitude) using both packs, I think I have a very clean system (almost after removing gnome and kde desktop, without having to reinstall)
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20:51<PovAddict>if I'm in x86_64 and I want to compile C code for i386, what should I install? in stable I found lib32gcc-4.9-dev but that depends on several lib32thing packages, which seems like the pre-multiarch way to do things
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20:52<twb>awal: you might also like dctrl-tools which has things like "show installed packages, sorted by their size"
20:53<twb>PovAddict: I guess gcc-multiarch?
20:53<somiaj>PovAddict: I personally like to comile inside a 32-bit chroot
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20:53<twb>Hm, that's not it
20:53<PovAddict>that's best for large programs with third-party libraries
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20:53<PovAddict>but this is literally using only libc
20:54<somiaj>PovAddict: but gcc-multilib and then the 32bit headers( libfoo-dev:i386) are need. Note you can't have the 32bit and 64bit headers installed side by side (hence whY i use a chroot)
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20:54<somiaj>PovAddict: gcc-multilibe I think provides the libc for you
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20:54<somiaj>and I do think there is a way to have both 32bit and 64bit headers for libc stuff, but I'm unsure on this
20:55<twb>I always just used a chroot myself
20:55<twb>Or via pdebuild or similar, which is a chroot under the hood
20:56<somiaj>PovAddict: libc6-dev-i386 -- I think that is the package you will need with gcc-multilib
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20:57<awal>twb: nice, I'll look at that pack :)
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21:30<fishy>i cant get my eth0 to get an ipv6 address on debian 7.8 via google fiber ive tried flipping forwarding acceptra autoconf sysctl options and setting inet6 eth0 auto in interfaces i cant get wide-dhcp6-client to start it fails to start and this debian box shares internet to my network with iptables and dnsmasq i can get internal ipv6 if i use a static address in radvd on br0 but my external eth0 wont move past and fe80 adddress :/
21:31<fishy>anyone?
21:32<twb>fishy: using ifupdown (the default)?
21:32<fishy>yup id try something then issue ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
21:32<fishy>then ifconfig eth0
21:33<twb>please pastebin your interfaces(5) file
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21:35<fishy>http://pastebin.com/F0FnQKW1 interfaces
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21:42<fishy>twb???
21:42<PovAddict>!patience
21:42<dpkg>The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available.
21:42<twb>fishy: sorry, was busy
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21:43<fishy>thought that you had dc'd ^^;
21:43<twb>fishy: you have two iface lines for eth0, that looks weird to me
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21:43<twb>OTOH I don't normally do IPv6
21:44<fishy>i know google fiber has ipv6 beacuse i got native ipv6 when i connected my w10 pc directly to the gfiber router (i disbaled teredo tunneling)
21:44<twb>Incidentally, you may want to use "ip link set" instead of "ifconfig" for mtu, and iptables-persistent package instead of the iptables-restore line
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21:46<fishy>the restore line allows me room for error if its persistant and i bugger something up i can use that restore
21:47<fishy>>.< like i buggered the boot process when i tried iface eth0 inet6 dhcp
21:47<twb>That's configurable, but meh
21:47<twb>What you have is fine
21:47<fishy>it would sit there and wait
21:47<fishy>all i can say is thank god for live cds
21:48<twb>More like Klaus Knopper and dba
21:48<PovAddict>:D
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21:48<twb>(And if they're gods, we're all in big trouble)
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21:49<fishy>is there a way to get radvd to listen on eth0 and do slaac for br0?
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21:51<twb>Dunno.
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21:51<twb>Do the problems go away if you take the bridge out of the mix?
21:52<twb>Alternatively, can you make this work by manually running radvd & friends? If so, then you can work out what ifupdown is doing differently (either due to misconfiguration, or upstream bugs)
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21:55<fishy>radvd gave me internal ipv6 but wide-dhcpv6-client failed to start
21:56<fishy>and the br0 is critical its how i get my wifi to work with hostapd
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21:57<fishy>alright gonna try subbing etho in place of all in net.ipv6.conf.all
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21:58<twb>I didn't mean get rid of br0 permanently, just while testing
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22:01<fishy_>nothing still only an fe80 address O.O wait! i have to check forwarding
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22:02<fishy_>-.- ill pastebin sysctl -p
22:02<pootsmk>For some reason, in LXDE, when I maximize windows, they do not fill the screen. There are a few inches of empty space to the right of all "maximized" windows. I can drag smaller windows into this space, or stretch windows manually to fill it. It only affects maximized windows. How do I fix this?
22:02<pootsmk>(I can post a screenshot if it's not clear what I mean)
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22:05<fishy_>currently my eth0 (external) doesnt get an ipv6 address i am trying to make my router ipv6 capable (external: eth0 internal bro) pastebins so far interfaces http://pastebin.com/F0FnQKW1 sysctl -p http://pastebin.com/Cza7DrjZ -.- im trying here i can get br0 to take ipv6 from radvd but
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22:11<twb>pootsmk: what kinds of windows? xterm?
22:12<pootsmk>twb, Everything
22:12<twb>xprop (and click on xterm) ===> program specified resize increment: 10 by 20
22:12<twb>Hm, if it's all windows then something else odd is happening
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22:13<twb>pootsmk: Which window manager are you using?
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22:14<twb>pootsmk: what does this say? xprop -root | grep -e ^_NET_DESKTOP_GEOMETRY -e ^_NET_WORKAREA
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22:15<pootsmk>twb, sorry I was installing wmctrl ... I'm using openbox
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22:16<pootsmk>_NET_DESKTOP_GEOMETRY(CARDINAL) = 1280, 800
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22:16<pootsmk>_NET_WORKAREA(CARDINAL) = 0, 0, 1280, 779, 0, 0, 1280, 779
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22:17<pootsmk>This is on Debian 8.2 stable, btw - and I installed with the desktop tasksel for LXDE
22:17<twb>OK so that just says you have a taskbar at the bottom
22:18<pootsmk>yes, I am using lxpanel
22:18<twb>I suspected it would say you had a taskbar along the right as well
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22:18<twb>I do not know what else to check
22:19<pootsmk>twb, What's especially odd is how I can manually resize windows to fill the entire screen.
22:20<twb>pootsmk: I suggest you ask #openbox on (probably) freenode
22:20<pootsmk>twb, Yes, this is seeming like some kind of openbox issue. Thanks - I'll check there.
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22:22<pootsmk>hmmm .... there doesn't seem to be an openbox channel ... I'll try on a mailing list, or stack overflow or something ... thanks for your help
22:22<PovAddict>not here (OFTC), on freenode
22:22<PovAddict>oh wait
22:22<PovAddict>I just tried on freenode
22:23<pootsmk>yep - I tried both
22:23<PovAddict>there's only 1 other person :/
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22:23<twb>"Perhaps you were looking for #icebox , the home of an unofficial Ubuntu respin based on Openbox?" ....what the I don't even
22:23<PovAddict>and the oftc one is the official one, supposedly
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22:23<twb>Yeah 37 people in OFTC #openbox.
22:23<twb>Sorry for being misleading
22:24<PovAddict>ditto
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22:24<pootsmk>oh, dang - I didn't type the # ... yeah, I just joined the OFTC one :)
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22:24<PovAddict>it's just common for that conversation to happen... "join #suchandsuch on freenode" "there's nobody there" "did you just click the channel name, which joins it on OFTC? you have to go to freenode like I said"
22:25<PovAddict>so I just assumed it was that this time too :x
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22:26<twb>Hm so in python, I'm getting "ImportError: No module named gi.repository" even though I just installed gir1.2-gtk-3.0.
22:26<twb>This was working in wheezy, though probably only by accident
22:27<PovAddict>do you have python-gi installed?
22:27<twb>Apparently not
22:27<twb>I wonder what changed
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22:30<fishy_>currently my eth0 (external) doesnt get an ipv6 address i am trying to make my router ipv6 capable (external: eth0 internal bro) pastebins so far interfaces http://pastebin.com/F0FnQKW1 sysctl -p http://pastebin.com/Cza7DrjZ radvd can get me internal ipv6 im on the 3.2 kernel
22:30<fishy_>anyone able to help me figure this out?
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22:32<twb>erm, note that debian 8 ships with 3.16 kernel
22:32<PovAddict>twb: hm well, you're just installing a gir data file
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22:33<twb>PovAddict: probably all it is, is in wheezy I installed some other program that pulled in python-gi as a side effect
22:33<PovAddict>twb: it can be used by any GLib Introspection binding, Python is just one of them, so it makes sense that git1.2-foo doesn't depend on python-gi
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22:33<PovAddict>do you still have said wheezy system around? "aptitude why python-gi" :)
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22:33<fishy_>O.O could it be that simple. ill try booting with the 3.16 kernel
22:33<twb>Lemme look
22:34<twb>fishy_: to get 3.2 on jessie you must have done something weird
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22:34<fishy_>ill try booting with 3.16
22:35<fishy_>i have it there as a backup
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22:35<matth>hello?
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22:35<matth>Is anyone online?
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22:39<nevyn>matth: no
22:39<PovAddict>!ask
22:39<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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22:40<markybob>is it me you're looking for? i can see it in your eyes
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22:41<matth>I have a question in regards to Linux Mint. This is the first Linux distro I've ever installed (I want to dual-boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint). I've tried to follow online instructions for creating partitions. I got some error about a bootloader, and this computer will ONLY boot to windows.
22:42<matth>I hope this is the right chat, since Mint is a Debian distro
22:42<PovAddict>!mint
22:42<dpkg>Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>.
22:42<matth>Oh yes sorry
22:43<PovAddict>mint is based on debian, but that doesn't mean we know about its peculiarities :)
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22:45<fishy__>O.O thank you all! it was the kernel!
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22:46<twb>PovAddict: found it -- it was catfish
22:47<twb>fishy__: yeah so... don't do that
22:47<fishy__>i dont fully remember why O.o i first switched the kernel it may have been when fiddling with the r8168 driver
22:47<PovAddict>ah yes
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22:49<twb>How dumb is python-gtk3
22:49<twb>It segfaulted when there was no X display
22:50<markybob>twb, umm...i use python-gtk3 in deluge...i like it. makes programming pretty nice
22:50<twb>markybob: it did this http://sprunge.us/DJHK instead of this http://sprunge.us/NEhD
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22:51<markybob>twb, you're running x as root? is that what's going on?
22:52<twb>I'm not running X at all. I expected it to fail. I'm just annoyed that it failed with such a stupid, long-winded, and unclear message.
22:52<markybob>i see
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23:41<canaima>hola
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23:48<allen>any easy way to enable auto logon in Jessie 8.2?
23:48<somiaj>allen: what display manager / desktop are you using?
23:48<allen>using mate
23:49<somiaj>does mate use gdm3?
23:49<allen>have no idea
23:50<somiaj>well displaymanagers usually have this feature lets figure out which one you are using
23:50<somiaj>this sight seems to suggest lightdm
23:50<allen>have downloaded gnome system tools
23:50<somiaj>allen: can you check if you have gdm3 or lightdm installed? you might be able to see this in the 'systemctl status' info, look for which display manager is running
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23:51<johnfg>hi folks
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23:51<johnfg>Well, I'm in a live debian jessie environment.
23:52<allen>under hardinfo GMSESSION = lightdm-xsession
23:52<allen>GDMSESSION
23:52<allen>= lightdm
23:52<johnfg>Is there a way I can install whatever files are missing that makes wheezy unable to boot?
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23:53<allen>su
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23:55<johnfg>will reverting to ext3 from ext4 lose data?
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23:56<johnfg>K, forget that. What's the root passwd for live jessie?
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23:57<allen>im unaware of any root password for live jessie
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23:58<somiaj>johnfg: the main user should have full sudo access. With that you can create any root password you like
23:58<fishy_>anyone able to help me figure out my ipv6 forwarding issue?
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