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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-12-15

---Logopened Tue Dec 15 00:00:19 2015
00:01<fishy_>i have pastebins? ip6tables http://pastebin.com/urufX2FF sysctl -p http://pastebin.com/urufX2FF interfaces http://pastebin.com/bt9VfzBa radvd.conf http://pastebin.com/7rMnJdE6
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00:03<twb>fishy_: please paste in ip6tables-save format
00:03<allen>well lets see if this works
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00:05<allen>worked like a champ
00:05<fishy_>straight ip6tables file http://pastebin.com/QLJVi54e
00:06<allen>what browser does everyone use with Debian?
00:06<allen>comes with Iceweasel
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00:10<fishy_>if i start radvd without specifying the prefix it doesnt get an internal ipv6 network is that normal?
00:11<fishy_>if i start radvd without specifying the prefix it doesnt get an internal ipv6 network is that normal?
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00:11<fishy_>err srry double post im in putty configuring my server
00:14<twb>allen: I use eww
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00:14<allen>what is eww?
00:15<twb>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eww_%28web_browser%29
00:16<twb>fishy_: it might be time for you to go hassle #netfilter on freenode
00:16<allen>thats interesting
00:17<allen>where do you download that
00:19<twb>apt-get install emacs
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00:24<allen>well i got it up and going but i dont think it looks too hot
00:24<fishy_>where is the netfilter irc? ive tried #netfilter and #Netfilter?
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00:29<twb>allen: it's not meant to look pretty
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00:35<allen>later guys
00:35<allen>thanks for the help
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02:31<brentaarnold>Is there any solution to window tearing using Intel HD 4000 graphics in Debian 8?
02:31<brentaarnold>err, screen tearing*
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02:32<twb>turn off compositing
02:33<twb>That doesn't completely eliminate it, but I found it helps a lot
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02:34<brentaarnold>I'll Google that, thanks for the lead.
02:34<twb>brentaarnold: are you using XFCE?
02:34<brentaarnold>MATE
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02:34<twb>I don't support that, sorry.
02:34<brentaarnold>Gotcha
02:35<twb>It will be under the window manager settings -- metacity?
02:35<brentaarnold>http://askubuntu.com/questions/36654/how-do-i-turn-on-and-off-compositing-from-the-command-line
02:35<twb>Try gconf-editor or dconf-editor
02:35<brentaarnold>Gonna give that a go
02:35<twb>That guy is saying "use metacity instead of compiz". For GNOME3 that answer is obsolete. Not sure about MATE.
02:36<twb>Ah, the second answer looks good: gconftool-2 -s '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' --type bool false
02:36<twb>Find out which WM you are running as step #1
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02:38<twb>xprop -root | grep ^_NET_SUPPORTING_WM_CHECK ==> 0x1600014
02:38<twb>xprop -id 0x1600014 | grep ^WM_ICON_NAME ==> xfwm4
02:39<twb>Adjust to taste
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02:49<rames>hello all, can anyone recommend a good channel for local networking issues (ie: #networking, but it looked like nobody was in there)
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02:50<rames>...am trying to get two computers and phone talking over a local access point, but am not getting connections (i'm familiar with 'nc' and similar tools)
02:50<twb>rames: for iptables especially, #netfilter. They handle a *small* amount of related discussion (e.g. brctl);
02:50<jm_>rames: also check it on freenode
02:50<rames>twb/jm_: thanks... don't know where to look and i'm sure it's a simple thing, will check them out!
02:50<twb>rames: what have you tried so far?
02:51<rames>twb: laptop and phone connected to tp-link usb wireless AP. nc -l 80, python -mSimpleHTTP on 8000, trying to see connections from the phone to the computer
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02:52<twb>Did you already try ping?
02:53<twb>Are both hosts definitely getting an IP address and route?
02:53<twb>Check firewall on both hosts (and on the AP/router)
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02:57<rames_>...as i was saying... phone and local computer on same usb wifi AP... nc -l 80 on computer, curl 192.168.0.1 on same computer triggers connection, but phone times out when trying to connect to 192.168.0.1
02:57<rames_>it's a tough problem to google, unfortunately
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02:59<jargonjunkie>whois aboudreault
03:00<jargonjunkie>hello all
03:00<jargonjunkie>this is my first time playing around with irc, so dont mind the randomness
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04:15<EmleyMoor>I have a 3G dongle connection that seems to hang up in under a minute when idle. For its intended purpose, I'd prefer to have it stay connected. What do I need to set up to make that so?
04:15<EmleyMoor>(using plain ppp)
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04:28<guardian>in my .bashrc should I use "EDITOR=vim" or "export EDITOR=vim" ?
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04:31<babilen>You probably want to export it at one point
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04:35<guardian>while I guess exporting CDPATH may not be such a good idea
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04:41<Walex2>guardian: neither, they don't belong in the '.bashrc'
04:41<Walex2>guardian: the '.bashrc' or '.env' should only contain functions, aliases, or option settings.
04:42<Walex2>guardian: that is stuff that is not inherited via the environment.
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04:56<benjamin_>hi all. I changed my root partition from logical to primary and now I can't get the grub2 loader. I can access console with a rescue disk. Any suggestions on how to tackle this? I am thinking either re-logicize the partition, or manually update settings but I need some direction on the latter
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04:57<jm_>reinstall grub
04:58<jm_>!fixmbr
04:58<dpkg>To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
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04:58<jm_>obviously make sure stuff like fstab/initramfs have correct rootfs (if it's UUID based it should be OK already)
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04:59<benjamin_>cheers
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05:09<benjamin_>update-burb did the trick, didn't work the first time I tried it for some reason
05:09<benjamin_>grub*
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05:37<guardian>Walex2: so where do I put "EDITOR=vim" or "export EDITOR=vim" ?
05:38<CutMeOwnThroat>in ~/.bashrc
05:38<CutMeOwnThroat>heh, he said not
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05:39<CutMeOwnThroat>well, then I'm also agog
05:39<CutMeOwnThroat>if the answer is .profile, I laugh my ass off
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05:41<Giirt>Hello people. Do any of you know of a shortcut to move a process to the background whitout first stopping it?
05:42<Giirt>Ctrl + z stops the job.
05:42<CutMeOwnThroat>I don't think there is one
05:42<Giirt>Hm, interesting
05:42<markybob>Giirt, use screen
05:43<Giirt>Ah, I'll google that mark!
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05:43<CutMeOwnThroat>Giirt, well, you can send it to the background when starting it with "program &" ... but if you started it in the foreground, you have to stop before you can put it into the background
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05:44<Giirt>CutMeOwnThroat, Yes I knew that. I was just wondering if theres a shortcut to move it to background whitout stopping it.
05:44<CutMeOwnThroat>oh, and then... "man bash"
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05:44<CutMeOwnThroat>there is also ^Y and bg
05:44<markybob>screen is obviously the best solution for such things :P
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05:46<CutMeOwnThroat>there's probably a reason you have to stop first (??).. I wonder what it is, though
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05:47<Giirt>CutMeOwnThroat, Yes. I guess there is - i just got a bit confused by it. Thank for the response anyhow.
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05:47<CutMeOwnThroat>I cannot think of any, though
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05:48<CutMeOwnThroat>Giirt, makes you wonder... indeed, >99% of the time, I do ^Z bg and wouldn't really need to stop
05:49<CutMeOwnThroat>let's ask #bash on freenode
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05:52<Giirt>CutMeOwnThroat, Yes, please ask and respond to me if you get a good answer. Me neither. Often when I run server services (like minecraft server) stopping the service is not generally a good idea. I guess screens is a solution to that though,
05:52<feliks>is there another way to change the hostname than using 'sysctl kernel.hostname=NEW_NAME'?
05:52<Giirt>/etc/hostname
05:52<Giirt>feliks,
05:53<feliks>Giirt: i need to not have to switch shell
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05:53<feliks>editing /etc/hostname needs logging out / restarting
05:53<feliks>using sysctl enables one to not have to do this
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05:54<feliks>but still i have to open a new terminal (emulator) for the changes to take effect
05:54<feliks>is it enough to also set $HOST?
05:54<EmleyMoor>I have a problem with my mobile backup connection, accessing a 6in4 tunnel on the router from the LAN - the tunnel is needed because the underlying mobile network has no IPv6 support. The tunnel works fine from the router, but all packets are lost from the LAN. Is there something amiss in my ip6 FORWARD table or is something else to blame? http://paste.debian.net/346338
05:54<CutMeOwnThroat>Giirt, I mean... maybe you have to stop it to transfer the tty back to the shell... but even then, I don't see why this couldn't be done in one command
05:54<Giirt>feliks, $HOST is not enough. You could: echo Hostname > /proc/sys/kernel/hostname
05:54<jelly>feliks: you don't have to open a new terminal, the changes are visible immediately it's just your current shell doesn't check them at all
05:55<feliks>Giirt jelly: thanks. i will try this
05:55<Giirt>The change will take effect immediately but the prompt will not change until you resatart bash.
05:55<jelly>feliks: you could just "exec bash" to replace the current shell process with a new one
05:55<jelly>!hostname
05:55<dpkg>Use «hostname foo» to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot (create /etc/hostname if it does not exist) and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set up local translations for a FQDN. See also 'man 1 hostname', or ask me about <mailname>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/ChangeHostname
05:56<jelly>Giirt: that echo does the same thing as sysctl.
05:57<Giirt>jelly, Yes I know. ;) He asked for a alternative way. Just read about that one so had to mention it xp
05:59<CutMeOwnThroat>Giirt, "<Riviera> That's not how it was historically, it's rather that it was a means to use several programs and to switch between them."
05:59<Giirt>feliks, Keep in mind that the hostname-change will revert back when you reboot the computer.
06:00<feliks>Giirt jelly: the "exec bash" works fine. but /etc/hostname is untouched by sysctl
06:00<feliks>Giirt: what is the recommended way to make the changes permanent?
06:00<Giirt>CutMeOwnThroat, Ah, I see. I guess it's saving some CPU-time aswell.
06:00<Giirt>feliks, Change the /etc/hostname file
06:01<feliks>Giirt: ok. thank you :)
06:01<Giirt>feliks, No problem!
06:03<jelly>feliks: please read what dpkg bot said above.
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06:04<feliks>jelly: i did. just wanted to check if this is good practice
06:04<feliks>the wiki could need be updated about this
06:04<feliks>https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/ChangeHostname#Core_networking
06:04<feliks>maybe ill register an account later
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06:07<EmleyMoor>I have a problem with my mobile backup connection, accessing a 6in4 tunnel on the router from the LAN - the tunnel is needed because the underlying mobile network has no IPv6 support. The tunnel works fine from the router, but all packets are lost from the LAN. Is there something amiss in my ip6 FORWARD table or is something else to blame? REVISED rules: -i pppoe-aaisp -o eth1 -m state --state RELATED,ES
06:07<EmleyMoor>TABLISHED -m commen
06:07<EmleyMoor>Oops
06:08<EmleyMoor>Revised rules are at http://paste.debian.net/346351
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06:11<duclicsic>EmleyMoor: rules look ok at first glance
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06:12<feliks>jelly: 'exec bash' works fine when started from a terminal. how does this work in a bash script?
06:13<feliks>everything below the 'exec bash' line is skipped
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06:14<knoppix_>hi
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06:14<Giirt>feliks, You could set the $HOSTNAME to match the new hostname.
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06:15<Giirt>Instead of running exec bash.
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06:16<Giirt>feliks, This will change how BASH displays the hostname.
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06:16<feliks>Giirt: this seems not to work when set within a shell script
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06:17<feliks>HOSTNAME=asdf
06:17<feliks>export HOSTNAME=asdf
06:17<Giirt>feliks, oh yes, that is true.
06:17<feliks>both dont change anything
06:17<jm_>env vars set in a forked process are not honoured in parent process unless you source it
06:17<Giirt>because the script is run inside a different shell
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06:20<feliks>i just put the 'exec $SHELL' line at the end. maybe not the nicest solution but it works
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06:25<Giirt>feliks, The issue I see to that solution is that the "Working" shell is still a fork to the original shell. What happens if you type exit in the "working" shell? Will you be returning to the old shell with the old hostname=
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06:31<Giirt>feliks, Gotta go, good luck!
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06:49<spazz>who is channel for debian italia?
06:49<jm_>!it
06:49<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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07:40<Besnik_b>Hello! I'm trying to set my keyboard through xmodmap to a specific keymap, but it setting a key for apostrophe seems not to work under Jessie. I had no trouble to display a proper apostrophe sign using xmodmap under Fedora 16. Is there any known issue for Debian I should be aware of?
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07:43<jm_>not that we are aware of
07:43<jm_>are you sure it's not your DE overriding it?
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07:44<bremner>is it madness to try to migrate a running system to root-on-lvm w/o reinstalling?
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07:50<Brigo>bremner, no, just copy -a the whole system.
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07:54<jm_>depends on what the system is running, for some files it would be better to do it when nothing is running
07:55<Besnik_b>jm_: Thank you for helping. (Does DE stands for Debian?) I have modified F5 to input ellipsis, and it works. Two other letters are changed successfully. But not the apostrophe modification.
07:55<jm_>Besnik_b: desktop environment
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08:03<Besnik_b>Ah
08:03<Besnik_b>I don't know… I was trying to use them within gedit…
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08:08<jm_>how about in a terminal? say xterm
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08:18<pudor>howdoyoudo, ladies and genltmen! what tool can split audio and video mp4 container?
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08:18<pudor>dumb channel?
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08:19<Raiz>pudor...
08:19<Raiz>If you want to turn a video into audio format just convert it to and audio format
08:19<Raiz>VLC can do that
08:20<pudor>console? Raiz?
08:20<Raiz>ffmpeg can do it
08:20<Raiz>but I have no idea how to use it
08:20<Raiz>you can search the web BTW
08:21<pudor>...thanks
08:21<Raiz>Np
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08:22<babilen>avconv too
08:23<babilen>I mean, just google for "extract audio mp4 linux" and you should find many interesting links.
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08:23<babilen>There are various tools (avconv/ffmpeg, winff, vlc, ...) that can assist you in this endeavour
08:23<babilen>Ah, pesky impatient person.
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08:27<abrotman>why not just use split?
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08:27<abrotman>didn't say the pieces had to be individually viewable? :)
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08:27<MrMan>Hello guys, I noticed that changing /etc/hostname immediately changed the active hostname on the system and /proc/sys/kernel/hostname (eventhough they are not linked). Is /etc/hostname a part of a pseudo filesystem?
08:28<duclicsic>no
08:28<duclicsic>it's just a file
08:29<MrMan>How come the computer noticed the filechange immediately then?
08:29<MrMan>The hostname-change?
08:30<duclicsic>it doesn't do that when i try the same thing
08:30<duclicsic>root@ix:~# echo "test" > /etc/hostname
08:30<duclicsic>root@ix:~# cat /proc/sys/kernel/hostname
08:30<duclicsic>ix
08:30<duclicsic>oops, actually meant to paste a link there
08:30<duclicsic>but this works
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08:31<MrMan>echo NEWHOSTNAME > /etc/hostname
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08:32<MrMan>This immediately changes /proc.... for me.
08:32<Besnik_b>jm_: The same behavior. It produces a single quote, instead of typographic apostrophe.
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08:33<duclicsic>MrMan: something must be reading that file and updating the hostname automatically
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08:35<MrMan>duclicsic, true: echo EXTRANAME > /etc/hostname; cat /proc/sys/kernel/hostname
08:36<MrMan>SUPERNAME
08:36<MrMan>so there are a delay
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08:37<Brigo>MrMan, did you try the hostname command?
08:38<MrMan>Brigo, hehe, I'm just trying stuff out atm. I want to know what is the actual variable storing the hostname. /etc/hostname or proc..hostname.
08:38<MrMan>Well, I guess proc->hostname is where the actuall hostname is stored.
08:39<duclicsic>yes the live hostname is in /proc
08:39<duclicsic>/etc/hostname is just a configuration file really
08:40<duclicsic>so take a look at your running processes, cron jobs, etc. one of them must be periodically reading the file and updating it
08:40<MrMan>duclicsic, thank you for your response. You're actually confirming what I believed. I had a litte discussion with a college.
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08:41<PaulePanter>Hi. Using Chromium select text and then dragging the background, it looks like it’s possible to make easy screenshots. I am using Nouveau and Awesome WM.
08:41<PaulePanter>How can I save that image?
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08:41<PaulePanter>Or is that a bug?
08:41<PaulePanter>47.0.2526.80-1~deb8u1
08:41<duclicsic>you can't turn that into an image
08:42<PaulePanter>chromium
08:42<PaulePanter>duclicsic: Why not? It would be really cool and blast the minds of my Mac colleagues. ;-)
08:42<duclicsic>because that would have to be some feature in chrome, or some addon
08:42<duclicsic>there are addons that can dump images of web pages thoughj
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08:43<duclicsic>or you could just use something like gnome-screenshot
08:43<duclicsic>which can grab box selections etc
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08:43<duclicsic>and i don't think taking screenshots of web pages is going to blow the minds of any mac users any time soon
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08:46<roughnecks>Is there a way to open up the Calendar on Gnome without configuring Evolution for emails?
08:47<duclicsic>install a different calendar application?
08:47<duclicsic>i'm guessing it must be part of evolution
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08:49<PaulePanter>duclicsic: Well, just select it while working and grabbing it, it’s definitely better than what they use currently.
08:49<roughnecks>The date and clock on Gnome upper panel are "linked" to Evolution, so why should I install something else?
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08:50<roughnecks>I can't use the Calendar without setting up an email account, that's not fair (or I don't know how to do it)
08:50<duclicsic>roughnecks: because clearly it doesn't work the way you want it to
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08:51<markybob>roughnecks, i doubt it. try #evolution on irc.gimp.org
08:51<bremner>gimp?
08:51<duclicsic>i don't use gnome personally, it would seem stupid if it locks you into using some specific calendar
08:51<markybob>bremner, it's gnome's official irc server
08:51<bremner>wack.
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10:14<spazz>guys how to change permise usb? mi pen drive after format is "read only"
10:14<spazz>and not put file in
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10:26<bremner>I have an ssh pub key that validates in wheezy but fails in jessie ("is not a public key file"). Does that sound familiar to anyone?
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10:38<duclicsic>bremner: what are you trying to do with it?
10:38<bremner>duclicsic: it's part of a gitolite3 install.
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10:40<bremner>duclicsic: the short answer is I'm running "ssh-keygen -l" on it.
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10:41<duclicsic>and that throws an error?
10:41<bremner>yes
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10:42<mimili>hi
10:42<duclicsic>what about if you try it with a freshly generated key?
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10:42<bremner>I have lots of keys it works with. generating new keys is not an option, these keys are not mine.
10:43<duclicsic>i just meant to test it, but if it works with others then fine
10:43<duclicsic>aside from asking to see the key in questions, i'm not sure what else to suggest
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10:54<bremner>apparently openssh got less tolerant about whitespace; cleaning extra spaces seems to have fixed it.
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10:57<duclicsic>oddly enough if i run ssh-keygen -l on my own public key i get the same error
10:57<duclicsic>and aside from the space after "ssh-rsa" there is no whitespace anywhere
10:58<bremner>hrm.
10:58<bremner>well, does it work on a freshly generate key ;)
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11:07<duclicsic>bremner: it does :)
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12:26<AntonyNadar>Hi Guys, I am having slow boot problems
12:26<AntonyNadar>freezes for 2-3 mins in echoing Loading initial ramdisk
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12:27<AntonyNadar>Hey anybody
12:28<blast007>AntonyNadar: have patience and explain your environment in more detail (Debian version, how you installed it, what you installed it to, etc)
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12:30<AntonyNadar>Debian version Jessie. I installed it to pendrive using VMWare. When used withinVMware the Os works fine and fast.But when I try to boot my laptop using the pen drive, it takes 20 seconds for grub to show up and after that freezes for 2-3 mins in echoing Loading initial ramdisk. After that the Os boots and works fine.Earlier Debian releases Squeeze
12:30<AntonyNadar> worked fine. I am having this issue with the latest wheezy and Jessie.I thought the newer pae kernel might be the issue so I compiled a non-Pae kernel and installed it, but still the problem persists.
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12:41<AntonyNadar>hi guys any heads up on the issue
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12:42<samb1>anyone know if there's still any kind of #pbuilder channel anywhere? (I have pbuilder questions)
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12:48<bremner>samb1: you could try #debian-mentors
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12:51<blast007>AntonyNadar: when you used it in VMWare, was the virtual disk on your internal hard drive?
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12:53<AntonyNadar>I installed it to pen drive using install to physical disk option. I did not install it to virtual disk
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13:03<Brigo>AntonyNadar, i was checking google. It looks like you hit a bug in grub. Try to install a newer or older version.
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13:05<AntonyNadar>I already tried installing grub versions. I even installed newer kernel version. Recompiled my own. But still the problem persists
13:07<AntonyNadar>Is it possible to use the Debian Squeeze Kernel and Grub with newer debian. Because I did not face such issue with Squeeze
13:07<Brigo>AntonyNadar, the kernel if launched after grub, so it can't affect the booting process.
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13:08<AntonyNadar>It was freezing for 2 - 3 mins at Loading initial ramdisk....So I assumed something would be fishy with the newer kernel
13:09<Brigo> but could you please put "set debug=all" (without the quotes, of course) at the top of /boot/grub/grub.cfg, reboot, and say whether there's anything interesting on the screen? If there is, perhaps a photo of the screen would be useful.
13:09<AntonyNadar>Ok
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13:18<gryps>how can the debian installer be advised to perform a minimal installation?
13:19<gryps>i did not select any installation sets to install, but even though i have nfsd and rpcbind running
13:19<CutMeOwnThroat>huh?
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13:23<CutMeOwnThroat>there is an nfsd in the kernel as a kernel module and I guess that would be installed anyway... don't think that would be loaded/started without configuration, though
13:23<CutMeOwnThroat>or some files connected with it
13:23<CutMeOwnThroat>dpkg minimal install
13:23<dpkg>See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s04 for required/recommended disk space. Debian keeps the base install relatively small for both hardware requirements and flexibility. As a consequence half the people are surprised that basic tools (like bzip2) are not "default" and half think that the existing base install contains too much (cron, python, ...). Also see <emdebian> <base install> <standard task>.
13:23<CutMeOwnThroat>dpkg, standard task
13:24<dpkg>hmm... standard task is a "task" that should be installed on all machines during the installer stage. It installs packages that are important, required and standard (i.e. "aptitude install ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant"). Packages in the <essential> set are always installed. Also ask me about <tasksel>.
13:24<gryps>CutMeOwnThroat: but then it would be listed as [nfsd] in ps, not simply as nfsd (without [])
13:24<gryps>CutMeOwnThroat: i also had to purge the nsf-common and rpcbind packages
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13:26<CutMeOwnThroat>rpcbind seems to have "standard" priority, that seems to be the reason it is installed
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13:27<CutMeOwnThroat>at least in wheezy
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13:27<gryps>the other issue that things like w3m, bsd-mailx, bind9-host, exim, geoip-database are also installed
13:28<CutMeOwnThroat>and yeah, dunno why that would be in standard... but as the factoid says... some people think more should be installed, some think less should *shrug*
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13:28<gryps>what i have done: using virt-install with --location=http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-amd64/
13:28<gryps>basically, this should fetch the standard installer, i think
13:28<CutMeOwnThroat>you can un-select the "standard" task in the installer and it will skip more things
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13:29<CutMeOwnThroat>dpkg, base install
13:29<dpkg>The term "base install" is often debated: if you don't select anything at the <tasksel> stage, you will end up with a very minimal system that will be missing many tools you would expect to find (at, less, file, ...). Selecting the <standard task> at the tasksel stage is highly recommended to provide you with the standard tools that should live on any unix-like machine. Also ask me about <minimal install>.
13:29<CutMeOwnThroat>gryps, ^^^
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13:30<gryps>CutMeOwnThroat: hm, then i think i should retry
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13:31<gryps>on the other hand, is there a possibility to let the installer do an unattended install?
13:31<CutMeOwnThroat>yes
13:32<CutMeOwnThroat>and in a moment I may remember the name
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13:36<txn3749>want to replace android completely with debian in samsung tablet ce0168, please advice best route
13:36<CutMeOwnThroat>gryps, ah, preseeding. see https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/apb.html.en
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13:37<CutMeOwnThroat>gryps, last time I looked at it, it was still a bit under-documented, though
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13:42<gryps>CutMeOwnThroat: thx, will try this
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13:45<AntonyNadar>Hi, I did debug=all, There was a lot of malloc and free..for atleast 5 mins. I had formated my pendrive in ext4 format but there were some lines detecting ext2.
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13:53<sr>[1215/185120:FATAL:chrome_main_delegate.cc(382)] Check failed: process_type.empty(). Unable to get the user data directory for process type: zygote
13:53<sr>Wha?
13:54<sr>chromium does not work because why?
13:54<sr>zygote?
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13:59<AntonyNadar>https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/hL2VKFuLRQaWj8tvtSvg
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14:00<AntonyNadar>is something wrong with my grub config
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14:06<MarkedOne>Hello... i need to install glassfish so i used "aptitude install glassfish-activation glassfish-javaee glassfish-jmac-api glassfish-mail glassfish-toplink-essentials"... and there is no command on start glassfish server.. pls help
14:07<maulkin>MarkedOne: How about just 'glassfish' ?
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14:08<maulkin>oh, wait... ignore me.
14:08<MarkedOne>maulkin: i tried... didnt work..
14:08<maulkin>MarkedOne: This is on Jessie?
14:09<MarkedOne>Then i read stackoverflow.com/questions/7289752/start-glassfish-app-server-on-debian.. and there it says.. that those are only libraries.. and i should install server.. but link is dead
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14:10<MarkedOne>maulkin yes..
14:11<maulkin>MarkedOne: ok, so what are you trying to do? Just start a domain/instance, or have it automatically start each time?
14:11<maulkin>MarkedOne: It seems that you're actually after 'asadmin'
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14:12<MarkedOne>maulkin: asadmin is script in official version of glassfish from oracle... i dont get why are there glassfish packages in debian if i still need to download and install glassfish from oracle
14:13<MarkedOne>i am little confused about this..
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14:15<maulkin>MarkedOne: I'm having a look
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14:15<maulkin>is there anything in /usr/share/doc/glassfish-*/ ?
14:16<MarkedOne>yep
14:16<maulkin>MarkedOne: that's where there's usually a README.Debian or something that should help
14:16<MarkedOne>oh i will try read gimme sec :)
14:16<MarkedOne>i will read
14:17<MarkedOne>maulkin: Oh.. there is only copyright and changelog.Debian.gz
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14:21<maulkin>MarkedOne: Still looking at it for you :)
14:21<blast007>looks to be other things that depend on the various glassfish-* packages, so perhaps that's the only reason it was packaged?
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14:21<melone12>hey
14:22<MarkedOne>maulkin: thank you for your effort.. i have already asked in #debian-java :)
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14:22<maulkin>MarkedOne: heh, ok :)
14:22<MarkedOne>maulkin: that room seems dead :D
14:22<maulkin>MarkedOne: It's not that active, but probably because quite a few of those people are in europe
14:23<MarkedOne>blast007: hmm... maybe.. do you know a way how to find purpose of these packages?
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14:24<MarkedOne>maulkin: Do you know how to find purpose of these packages?
14:24<melone12>After dist-upgrade to stretch, I have some trouble with dolphin (KDE). I'm using Gnome. If I start it by the search menu it freezes after opening (might be some timeouts), but I can't check whats wrong by starting it from the command line
14:24<MarkedOne>find out* (sorry about my english)
14:25<blast007>melone12: testing/unstable support is in #debian-next
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14:25<melone12>blast007, yeah sorry. just read the topic by now
14:25<melone12>thx
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14:50<MarkedOne>Can anybody tell me purpose of glassfish-activation, glassfish-javaee, glassfish-jmac-api, glassfish-mail, glassfish-toplink-essentials packages?
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15:03<blast007>MarkedOne: apt-cache rdepends glassfish-activation glassfish-javaee glassfish-jmac-api glassfish-mail glassfish-toplink-essentials
15:04<MarkedOne>blast007: thank you :)
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16:00<MarkedOne>will aptitude purge also purge all dependency packages installed? and for them all dependency packages?... i think of it like purge recursively
16:01<towo`>no, it won't
16:01<MarkedOne>i need to get same state as before aptitude install
16:01<MarkedOne>towo how can i obtain it?
16:02<towo`>restore your backup
16:03<MarkedOne>towo.. i dont have backup... is there any script i can use to achieve my goal?
16:03<towo`>no
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16:04<towo`>you can check the deps for your package and give that list to aptitude
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16:04<towo`>if you had that need, you should realy make a backup before installing
16:05<Brigo>MarkedOne, doing that you will get with no packages at all :)
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16:06<MarkedOne>Brigo.. no i used aptitude install samplePackage.. and it downloaded and installed next 140 packages... i want to get rid of samplePackage + all 140 packages that were installed :)
16:06<blast007>does 'apt-get autoremove --purge' not handle removing automatically installed packages that are no longer depended on along with removing their configs?
16:06<Brigo>MarkedOne, there is a log in /var/log, you can use information from it.
16:07<Brigo>blast007, yes, it does.
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16:07<towo`>blast007, have you ever tryed autoremove by yourself?
16:07<blast007>towo`: yes
16:08<towo`>as often i have tryed it, it want to remove packages, which i definitifly want installed
16:08<Brigo>towo`, then mark them as manually installed.
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16:14<MarkedOne>if i use aptitude install samplePackage... it will install samplePackage (marked as manualy installed) and next 10 dep packages (marked as automaticaly installed) ?
16:14<MarkedOne>if so.. when i run aptitude purge.. all packages.. should be purged right? not only samplePackage
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16:17<blast007>MarkedOne: purge the one you manually installed, and then do 'apt-get autoremove --purge' and verify it's going to remove the right stuff (which it hopefully should)
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16:18<MarkedOne>blast007: Thank you.. this should be what i need :)
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16:30<MarkedOne>hmmm this is weird.. apt-get autoremove did not remove packages marked as automaticaly instaled
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16:32<MarkedOne>is there way to scan all packages and repair them if dependency is missing?
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16:33<pila>hey people :P
16:33<bremner>MarkedOne: "apt-get install -f"
16:35<MarkedOne>thank you bremner...
16:35<MarkedOne>thank you all for help... bye
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16:35<pila>i want to upload a file to ftp via wput (wput -t 3 --reupload /mnt/sdb/my/file/here.zip ftp://192.168.xxx.xxx/files/) but on my ftp it recreates the whole folder structure like "files/mnt/sdb/my/file/...." how can i just put the file inside my specified ftp folder?
16:35<musca>hey pila
16:36<pila>hello musca
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16:40<pila>okay i fixed it by adding --basename= option to wput
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18:26<maquis>Hi. I'm seeking support troubleshooting a rather difficult SMTP TLS connectivity problem that came up on 3 client machines after the new icedove update (38.4.0-1~deb8u1) on debian stable. Is there a channel you can recommend for that?
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19:13<LoZioNe>buonasera a tutti
19:14<r3c0n>On my Ubuntu 14.04 machine, I am unable to run su - because of an authentication error. Any fixes?
19:15<mtn>!ubuntu
19:15<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
19:15<r3c0n>Thx
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19:39<giovanny>Hey guys
19:39<giovanny>Coud you help me with a basic bash script?
19:40<giovanny>find . -name "*.jpg" -exec lsattr {}+ du -hs {} + --------> find: Only one instance of {} is supported with -exec ... +
19:40<giovanny>I am trying to find files with extension .JPG and then apply exec to see "ttr" and weigth of files
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19:54<maquis>giovanny: I doubt this is the right channel and you should propably ask commandline related questions in a channel specifically directed to such questions, but here's a line that works anyway:
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19:55<maquis>for i in $(find . -iname '*.jpg'); do lsattr $i; du -hs $i; done
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20:00<giovanny>Thanks a lot.
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21:38<BoYDoY>hi Debian Pro. i want ask what setting or configuration make an SAN/NAS on debian with Clustering
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21:42<nevyn>why?
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23:59<parrot>what is this
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