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00:01<somiaj>!fixmbr
00:01<dpkg>To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
00:01<somiaj>note youy have to modifiy those to fit, for example don't[ mount efi if you arent using efi boot
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01:59<sleser>guys anyone met with problem like i ? i was watching video flash on a site. sudenly my ked ended up in dark screen white letters . said something was wrong with swap
01:59<sleser>to be spesific on the error if any comand i can chek to show u i can
01:59<sleser>swap was the purpuse
01:59<sleser>what exactly hapend ?
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02:05<sleser>anyone awake ?
02:06<merlin_>sadly
02:06<sleser>oh well by tomaro ill forget what hapend because i had drinks
02:06<sleser>if anyone remembers my quastion and sees me just ask for me and respond then
02:07<sleser>the problem looks horible . interupted me from peace and video while relaxing
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02:15<merlin_>sleser, what was your question?
02:15<sleser>i was watching a video on iceweasel
02:15<sleser>a flash video
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02:15<sleser>sudenly i eneded up in dark screen with white letters
02:15<sleser>it was saying something to do with swap
02:15<sleser>i use kde
02:16<sleser>this isue never hapend before
02:16<sleser>ive never met with this one yet
02:17<sleser>basical i use kdep watched my video while watching ended up in a thing looking like shell and taking up the intire screen saying . problem with swap
02:17<merlin_>how much swap do you have?
02:18<sleser>when i instaled debian i went with what ever factory
02:18<sleser>after install i never tuched or dont know how to
02:18<sleser>isnt swap has to do auto
02:18<sleser>its work
02:20<sleser>i think debian defult was 2 gig or 3 gig
02:21<sleser>well i used what ever they recomended
02:21<sleser>nothing more or less that i chose my self
02:27<sleser>http://paste.debian.net/352193/
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02:54<voltagex>I'm stuck trying to build a package - getting dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (native)': native package version may not have a revision
02:55<voltagex>ah right, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=700177
02:55<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/700177 in dpkg-dev (closed, patch): «dpkg-dev: please reject native/non-native version when building native/non-native source packages»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2013-02-09; last modified: 2014-01-03.
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04:08<asdas>HI!
04:08<asdas>How can I save an offline version of this? https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/
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04:08<asdas>Perhaps just simply ctrl+s it
04:08<asdas>Or it won't work right? Would just save that page or link lol.
04:09<asdas>Something like wget -r or something lol
04:11<asdas>Also ever since I installed my Debian system, my Pidgin has been fucking up: http://imgur.com/BH30gVC
04:12<asdas>Already did purge, still there.
04:12<asdas>apt-get purge
04:12<asdas>Even did autoremove lol
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04:20<xauth>asdas: apt-get install debian-faq
04:21<asdas>xauth: Thanks a lot!
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04:26<musca>asdas: your pidgin config is faulty and apt doesn't manage such user files in your $HOME
04:27<musca>pidgin says: IRC nick and server may not contain whitespace
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04:48<Mr>yo
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04:53<asdas>musca: Ah
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04:56<asdas>musca: Hey
04:56<asdas>musca: I already deleted the annoying texts in .purple/accounts.xml
04:56<asdas>musca: I still see it :-/
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06:20<beagleburt>G'day from New Zealand everyone! Just installed Debian64 "jessie" 8.2.0 Live but 1st time I tried to open synaptic = nothing happened after root authentication dialogue disappeared? Checked "ps -e|grep synaptic" = nothing. Tried terminal: error (see: http://paste.debian.net/352246/)
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06:22<cra1g321><beagleburt> likely due to you running it as root
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06:24<beagleburt>cra1g321, MUST BE ROOT TO OPEN SYNAPTIC?
06:24<cra1g321>nope
06:25<beagleburt>cra1g321, When I click on the menu - I get a dialogue asking me to enter root password?
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06:26<cra1g321>ah what i meant was, you're likely getting those errors in the terminal due to running it as root
06:28<beagleburt>cra1g321, beagleburt@penguin:~$ synaptic& [2] 22878 beagleburt@penguin:~$ bash: synaptic: command not found
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06:29<cra1g321>i would check on my debian install but not currently on it
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06:33<beagleburt>cra1g321, root@penguin:/etc/apt# No protocol specified ** (synaptic:22882): WARNING **: Could not open X display No protocol specified Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused (synaptic:22882): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 ^C [2]- Exit 1 synaptic
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06:33<cra1g321>yeah i saw your link
06:33<beagleburt>ok soory
06:34<beagleburt>cra1g321, ???something wrong with my GTK-?
06:35<cra1g321>honestly dont know
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06:36<beagleburt>I do not know what to do next? ANYONE ANY IDEAS?
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06:46<maker>beagleburt: just set the $DISPLAY environment variable
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06:46<maker>and don't yell.
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06:52<lzz>beagleburt: what happens if you command $ synaptic-pkexec (as a normal user)
06:54<beagleburt>maker, sorry! Do you mean: " $ set $DISPLAY " ?
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06:56<beagleburt>lzz, Same error
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06:59<beagleburt>maker, " $ set $DISPLAY " & " # set $DISPLAY " do nothing?
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07:03<lzz>beagleburt: it sounds that you can't run graphical programs from console both user and root .. is it possible to test different console program
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07:04<lzz>and what '$ echo $DISPLAY' gives
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07:05<beagleburt>lzz, beagleburt@penguin:~$ echo $DISPLAY :0.0
07:06<beagleburt>I started Gufw ok from command line?
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07:09<lzz>i have to say it's weird...my knowledge starting to be limited this point...do you have other desktop environments (like kde mate lxde xfce) to test
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07:11<beagleburt>lzz, I only installed mate
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07:11<beagleburt>lzz, I get the same error trying to open synaptic via Xterm & UXterm?
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07:14<beagleburt>lzz, also iceweasel works ok too
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07:16<rahul>hello can anyone tell me how can i build my own linux as per my requirements?
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07:16<lzz>beagleburt: you mean that iceweasel works from console
07:16<rahul>i want some ideas to get started
07:17<beagleburt>lzz, both console & menu ok
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07:17<rahul>anyone?
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07:19<lzz>beagleburt: do you have package "policykit-1" installed
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07:21<beagleburt>lzz, yes already installed
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07:29<lzz>beagleburt: this starting to be long shot, sometimes xorg have been set up in a way that it doesn't allow graphical programs as root user...
07:30<lzz>i don't know at the moment where to set it up or check it (conf files)
07:31<beagleburt>lzz, ok...I will check xorg.conf & see...
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07:34<rahul>get "w3m" for console or terminal net browsing
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07:34<rahul>apt-get install w3m w3m-img
07:35<rahul>is all u need to do
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07:36<bremner>rahul: it isn't clear if your question is debian related. Do you want to base your linux distro on debian, or do something else?
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07:53<beagleburt>lzz, strange...? looking for "xorg.conf" -> see: http://paste.debian.net/352274/
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08:06<pi_leo>where i found on oftc suport for raspbian, i am running it and need some tips, thanks!
08:07<bremner>!raspian
08:07<dpkg>Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/
08:07<bremner>pi_leo: on freenode, it looks like
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08:08<lzz>well "synaptic" is a program for installing software and "synaptics" is a touchpad device and needs some settings and drivers...
08:09<beagleburt>lzz, ok I am getting tired...02:08 here in NZ ATM...
08:09<lzz>that is not related synaptic software settings
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08:10<beagleburt>lzz, oh joy! what a coincidence!
08:11<beagleburt>lzz, I blinked & missed the "s"
08:11<beagleburt>lzz, I hope I do not have to do another reinstall?
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08:29<I_believe_veIope_sucks_eggs>hey can i steal your bot
08:29<I_believe_veIope_sucks_eggs>!enter
08:29<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
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09:13<cire>hello
09:14<cire>I am new to IRC. I look for some quick hep
09:14<cire>not on IRC though
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09:15<cire>I have a usb boot device which works fine. I want to "clone" it. What is the right way to proceede?
09:16<oct>cire: a quick and fast way is the dd command but the device youre cloning to has to be of greated or equal size.
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09:20<cire>yes I know dd. But usb devices seem critical on partition data, am I right?
09:22<oct>cire: dd copies the data byte by byte which includes the partition table and any partition data
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09:23<cire>yes. so I make a partition, and dd only that to preserve the mbr?
09:23<cire>is there some more convenient way?
09:24<cire>mount as new "empty" boot
09:24<cire>and grub2 install on it?
09:24<oct>cire: nope, run dd on the device without making a partition table... dd if=/device/you/copy/front of=/deb/sdb
09:24<oct>assuming sdb is the drive you want to copy to
09:25<oct>Why is the sources folder in the bsdmainutils source empty?
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09:35<somiaj>cire: problem with dd is you need the exact partition size/partition table. If you have a file system you can use cp -a or rsync -a to just copy the files and have a little more freedom on partition/filesystem sizes
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09:36<somiaj>cire: but a lot depends on what you mean by clone, and how you are going to use the image/backup you made
09:38<cire>OK, I want a second boot key, in case I loose no 1, or whatsoever
09:38<somiaj>dd will copy over mbr and booting info (which cp/rsync) won't
09:38<somiaj>but if the drives are different sizes you'll have to deal with that after you finsih the dd
09:38<cire>only a rsync won't make the device bootable
09:39<somiaj>well you could install grub on the device after you copy, dd works. But if the drives are not the same size you may have issues
09:39<somiaj>(if the new drive is bigger, you can just resize the partition/filessytem after) if the new usb is smaller dd won't work.
09:40<cire>old drive 8gb, 512 mb boot part
09:40<cire>new drive 4gb sdcard (old usbkey)
09:40<cire>why won't grub-install work?
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09:41<somiaj>it should, but you may ahve to chroot into the isntall to get it to work
09:41<somiaj>but dd won't work as a direct copy from a 8gb device to a 4.
09:41<somiaj>(unless you do something to the image first)
09:44<cire>so grub-install /dev/mmc.. , right?
09:45<cire>what filesystems? fat? ext2?
09:45<somiaj>cire: what type of install are you copying?
09:45<cire>in the momet there is one 4gb fat16 (bought it that way)
09:45<cire>well, it should be my /boot
09:46<cire>since the disc is crypted, I keep /boot exterior.
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09:47<somiaj>cire: /boot shouldn't be fat16 though
09:47<somiaj>cire: but either way, sounds like you have more complicated a setup since it is encrypted
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09:48<somiaj>copying the file system means you will have to reset up encryption, set up boot, and install grub.
09:48<somiaj>and I don't know enough about encryption to be much advise on this. be so much easier if you were copying teh 4gig device to the 8gig
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10:33<gecris>sumumDeb salve...!!!!
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10:35<cire>thank you !
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12:35<AndChat505161>Yo my debian homies can someone help me out
12:36<AndChat505161>Ayeeee
12:36<AndChat505161>Can someone help me mount and format a ntfs drive in tails os 1 7
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13:03<pedrinius>hola
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13:04<pedrinius>soy nuevo
13:04<markybob>!es
13:04<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
13:05<oct>Is there a way to OR apt pins without adding a new pin?
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13:45<joushi>I need some help setting up so I can boot my win10 (on separate hdd) through grub, the "Microsoft Reserved Partition" doesn't have an UUID for me to use
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13:48<markybob>joushi, the installer should detect it and set it up automagically. does it not?
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13:48<joushi>the update-grub doesn't find it
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13:52<mtn>joushi, is fast startup turned off in windows?
13:52<mtn>joushi, http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4189-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-10-a.html
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14:00<joushi>mtn: It was on, and turning it off fixed it! Thanks
14:00<mtn>joushi, welcome
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14:19<joushi>Well this is embarrassing, it still doesn't find it.
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14:21<joushi>(I mistook my own entry I did before as success.. )
14:21<iiiii>hi
14:21<The>Hi!
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14:46<ThomasKeller>which package do I need to install, if I want additional dictionary/spellcheck in Icedove ?
14:46<ThomasKeller>there are many "spell" packages, such as aspell, ispell, hunspell, myspell
14:46<ThomasKeller>which of those do i need ?
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15:40<justin_123>Hello, is this the place to get support?
15:40<joelkraehemann>!ask
15:40<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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15:44<justin_123>I have a problem with setting up my external monitor; I'm running Debian version 8.2. When I try to set up my external monitor using the gnome settings, this does not work. I get the following: unknown display, that's all. I expected to see two screens in the gnome-settings so i can choose to duplicate or extend.
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15:49<valdyn>ThomasKeller: Recommends: ... , myspell-en-us | hunspell-dictionary | myspell-dictionary
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15:50<somiaj>justin_123: what video card/drivers are you using?
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15:51<justin_123>How can I see that?
15:52<justin_123>lspci gives the following: VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430/5450/5470]
15:52<markybob>justin_123, lspci -nn
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15:54<somiaj>justin_123: do you know what video drivers you are using (if you have done nothing you are using the radeon drivers)
15:54<justin_123>This is a default installation
15:54<justin_123>So I have done nothing
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15:56<abrotman>Did you install the linux-nonfree package?
15:56<abrotman>and what does xrandr say for displays?
15:57<somiaj>justin_123: as abrotman said, you will need to install the firmware-linux-nonfree package from non-free. Even thought he radeon driver is free, it is very limited without non-free firwamre
15:58<somiaj>justin_123: If you are okay with using non-free frimware, installing the firmware should drastically improve your video capability (including using extra monintors)
15:58<justin_123>xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
15:58<justin_123>Screen 0: minimum 1366 x 768, current 1368 x 768, maximum 1368 x 768
15:58<justin_123>default connected primary 1368x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
15:58<justin_123> 1366x768 0.00
15:58<justin_123> 1368x768 0.00*
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15:59<justin_123>Sorry for the flooding, it was not intended
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16:03<justin_>So I should install firmware-linux-nonfree to make the monitor working again, although it is non-free. I will think about that. Thank you for your help.
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16:04<somiaj>justin_: you can look at the actual package. It is just the ati firmware that comes with the radeon cards. The radeon driver just needs it to get better functionality. But yes the decision is one you have to make if you are wanting to run a libre system.
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16:06<justin_>So you suggest it is not that big of a problem. I will try to install it to see whether the results are better.
16:07<somiaj>justin_: I try to refrain from making a suggestion on that level. I only mention the non-free firmware will give your card better preformance with the free radeon driver
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16:09<justin_>somiaj: Yes I understand. Thank you for your help.
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16:16<sleser>guys whats index_parse.c:191: indx_parse(): error opening /media/76FE3C437ADB6C66/BDMV/index.bdmv
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16:23<Parazite1>hi
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16:28<justin_>somiaj & abrotman: I installed the package and now it works. I see animations I have never seen before as well. Thank you :)
16:28<somiaj>justin_: you are welcome.
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17:58<EmleyMoor>I'm getting lots of "fatal: Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer [preauth]" followed by "PAM service(sshd) ignoring max retries; 5 > 3" in my logcheck mails... with no log of the connecting IP... is there any setting I can change so that I can see it?
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17:59<abrotman>you can change the sshd log level
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19:18<Darby_Crash>hi guys
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19:18<Darby_Crash>i have a issue with my hd
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19:24<Darby_Crash>my hd is very slow in writing
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19:35<xork>I appear not to have fat32 support -- how to fix?
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19:50<Guest2006>hmm
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19:50<Guest2006>I love debian
19:50<Guest2006>and I need a new tatoo
19:51<Guest2006>:-)
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19:51<Guest2006>I m not good
19:51<Guest2006>but proud
19:51<Guest2006>made 3 semster computer sience
19:51<Guest2006>and passed linux this year :-)
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19:57<nevyn>'passed linux'
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19:57<nevyn>what does that even mean..
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19:58<Guest2006>I had to do some exams
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19:59<nevyn>but what was in them?
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19:59<nevyn>how the vm works or howto set permissions on a file?
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20:01<nevyn>howto write kernel code/drivers or just howto install apache?
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20:02<Guest2006>nevyn
20:02<Guest2006>Mabe
20:02<Guest2006>y
20:03<abrotman>nevyn: "how to use the mouse"
20:03<Guest2006>I f I had rest of day nothing to do several month
20:03<Guest2006>sure u are right
20:03<nevyn>Guest2006: no it's a genuine question
20:03<nevyn>what was covered in 'linux'
20:03<Guest2006>how to use a Kensington Trackball?
20:03<Guest2006>so plz
20:03<abrotman>!de
20:03<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
20:04<Guest2006>no de
20:04<Guest2006>thank you tor
20:04<Guest2006>?
20:05<Guest2006>Linus Thorvald was swedish?
20:05<Guest2006>and u areß
20:05<nevyn>finnish
20:05<Guest2006> ?
20:05<Guest2006>no!
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20:05<nevyn>linus was finnish
20:05<abrotman>Guest2006: what is your native language? Your English isn't really passable ..
20:05*nevyn is australian
20:05<Guest2006>thank u
20:06<Guest2006>but u are now the master and decider?
20:06<nevyn>no. I'm curious
20:06<Guest2006>whom is allowed to use Linux?
20:06<Guest2006>no
20:06<abrotman>no?
20:06<Guest2006>no
20:06<abrotman>Guest2006: what is your native language? Your English isn't really passable ..
20:06<Guest2006>but thank u I can use Linux
20:06<Guest2006> Debian
20:06<nevyn>Guest2006: you made an unqualified statement 'I passed linux'
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20:07<abrotman>Good for you. However, you seem unable to use English
20:07<nevyn>I am curious as to what that means.
20:07<Guest2006>If u like me or hate me will not decide
20:07<Guest2006>Debian loves me
20:07<nevyn>Guest2006: I'm ambivilent.
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20:08<nevyn>Guest2006: and if you think debian loves you you've never read debian-devel ;)
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23:37<Yst>What package is the "cc" command in?
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23:43<Yst>Never mind, I found the issue. build-essential failed to install.
23:43<nevyn>you probably want build-essential
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23:44<Yst>Yeah, I tried to install that, but I did not see the error when it failed.
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23:46<Yst>THere was a 404 error, but "sudo aptitude update" fixed it.
23:46<Yst>Thank you nevyn!
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