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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-12-26

---Logopened Sat Dec 26 00:00:36 2015
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02:39<aigis>I have a 2TB RAID where one disk died. I have since bought 2x 4 TB hard disks. What's the safest way of migrating all my data from the degraded 2TB array to the 4TB drives?
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04:00<Telegramf>how to set xchat,let it not show join and exit the chat room?
04:01<dtw>The download progress bar in programs like "wget" doesn't work anymore. It prints each progress stage as separate line. I guess this is a terminal thing as it's not only about "wget". Noticed the problem after update to Debian 8.
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05:21<salad>hey, how do I shorten the time before screen blanking happens? on a machine with no desktop environment, nothing selected at tasksel on install
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05:23<dtw>salad, if you have X window system use "xset".
05:23<salad>no xwindows on this machine, it's a server
05:23<Brigo>salad, is logind running?
05:24<salad>Brigo: yep
05:24<Brigo>salad, then check logind.conf
05:24<Brigo>IdleActionSec=
05:24<Brigo> Configures the delay after which the action configured in IdleAction= (see above) is taken after the
05:24<Brigo> system is idle.
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05:25<salad>the default action for that it is nothing, there doesn't appear to be an option for that can blank
05:25<salad>and changing the timeout for it doesn't change the time in which the screen actually blanks
05:25<salad>tried it sorry :(
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05:28<Debora>hi all! I have a question if anyone can help me. I'm using my laptop as access point to share a cellphone internet connection to other laptops. It works, but I want to create a access point without authentication. No wep, no wpa. Anybody knows how to change it on debian? In graphical interface if possible?
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05:29<Debora>I am using the network tool on gnome to do it, but I can't even choose the wifi password or ssid
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05:32<Brigo>salad, setterm
05:32<salad>solved my problem. had to set consoleblank=120 (for 2m) in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" in /etc/default/grub
05:32<salad>tyvm anyway
05:34<Brigo>Debora, you can't do it in graphic mode, and afaik it is not trivial.
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05:37<Brigo>Debora, may be this link could help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/180733/how-to-setup-an-access-point-mode-wi-fi-hotspot
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05:51<lzz>my apologies, problem with lenovo laptop wifi and i disconnected, so i repeat some
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05:52<lzz>salad, consoleblanking is set by kbd, but kbd has a bug and it doesn't set up blanks at bootup...
05:52<salad>Izz: it's working dude.
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05:56<Debora>Brigo, I tried this. But when I start the Hotspot network, it puts a password. This is really annoying. When the system try to decide for you, it looks like a stupid windows thing :(
05:57<lzz>salad, did you get last message about grub config
05:57<salad>Izz: Yeah.
05:57<salad>Izz: Setting in the grub config works, good enough for me.
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06:03<siva>I need to create a new account at wiki.debian.org . It seems it doesn't allow creation of new accounts due to spam. Can someone help me with this?
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06:11<Brigo>siva, there is a #debian-www channel may be they could help you.
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06:12<siva>Brigo, Thanks for the help. Will head over there
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06:12<Brigo>debchange, search for the configuration file and modify it.
06:12<Brigo>siva, yw :)
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06:26<rselon>Hey guys, is there a way to get the latest nvidia drivers on stable?
06:26<rselon>The current ones have some problems with my card
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06:33<hajk>hi, i just installed lubuntu on my netbook, and the OS just froze, it seems to be a problem with the graphicscard. how can i find out what happened
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07:28<prectOS>Hey
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07:29<prectOS>am really stuck, i have an app which is only available in 64bits and am using 32bits, i read about multiarch but it seemed like a complex process.
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07:31<prectOS>Can anyone guide my on how to make the app work with the minimum downloading and hassle
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07:32<grove>prectOS: I know it's possible the other way around (running 32 bit stuff on 64 bit installations), if it is possible that way multiarch is the way to go. If the source for the app you want to run is available ccompiling it yourself for 32 bit might also be an option
07:32<prectOS>I dont think the source is available
07:33<prectOS>Am lost in this multiarch steps
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07:34<prectOS>What about this, its seems fairly easy
07:34<prectOS>http://neuro.debian.net/blog/2013/2013-05-31_matlab_64bit_on_32bit.html
07:34<jelly>prectOS: which app is this?
07:34<prectOS>Its an app for flashing mtk based phones
07:35<prectOS>Sp flash tool
07:35<jelly>prectOS: where are you downloading it from?
07:35<prectOS>http://www.needrom.com/download/sp-flash-tool-v5-1424-00/
07:35<prectOS>Someone said that there are no 32bits releases
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07:36<grove>prectOS: Following that guide will probably work
07:36<prectOS>Okey then am downloading the dependencies 70mb
07:37<prectOS>The app, when i ran it mentioned something about ld-linux86-x64 .so
07:37<prectOS>And some more lines which i couldnt read
07:37<jelly>prectOS: first thing to do is boot a 64bit kernel. Which debian release are you using?
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07:38<prectOS>Stretch 32
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07:38<grove>But it will only work if your machine can run a 64 bit kernel (installing that is the first step of that guide) - but if there's probably no way to make that app run
07:38<jelly>stretch?
07:38<prectOS>yeah?
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07:41<prectOS>There came a file with the program, a script shell and a file
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07:41<jelly>I happen to have a mtk-based phone and a copy of /d/dl/jiayu/SP_Flash_Tool_exe_Linux_v5.1452.00.100/ unpacked from 2014 for some reason
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07:41<prectOS>the file when executed prints : Syntax error : expecting (
07:42<prectOS>Is it compiled 32bits?
07:42<jelly>that stuff was so badly written and failed to work even after having the necessary multiarch support in place
07:43<prectOS>So i dont have to try?
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07:43<prectOS>I ran it with wine, the window version but i didnt know how to add the preloader drivers
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07:43<jelly>who knows, it might work for you
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07:44<jelly>prectOS: so, did you install and boot a 64bit kernel?
07:44<grove>prectOS: That sounds like an error from executing the shell script, those aren't compiled. And if they can't even make a shell script that doesn't contain syntax errors, I wouldn't get my hopes up for getting their code to run
07:44<prectOS>It's still downloading
07:44<prectOS>I wouldn't hope that either
07:45<jelly>prectOS: which command did you use to install a 64bit kernel?
07:46<prectOS>I am following this thread http://neuro.debian.net/blog/2013/2013-05-31_matlab_64bit_on_32bit.html
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07:50<jelly>,v linux-image-amd64 --arch i386
07:50<judd>Package: linux-image-amd64 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 3.2+46~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63
07:50<jelly>prectOS: ok, you're following that, but which command are you doing right now to install a 64bit kernel?
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07:50<prectOS>the apt-get to get the 64 image
07:51<jelly>I'm asking because the very first command in that procedure should not work on stretch
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07:51<prectOS>why wouldnt it work?
07:52<prectOS>So it did and i added the 64 arch and updated
07:53<prectOS>And installed the rest of the libs
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07:53<jelly>prectOS: because there is no package named "linux-image-amd64" for your architecture, "i386" in stretch any more
07:54<prectOS>The libs couldnt be found, maybe cause theres no link to 64 in the sources?
07:54<prectOS>Why did it download then?
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07:55<jelly>prectOS: what does "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" say
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07:58<prectOS>it says amd 64
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07:58<jelly>good
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07:59<jelly>report back when you reboot into the -amd64 kernel
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08:00<prectOS>I couldnt install the libs
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08:00<jelly>what libs?
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08:01<jelly>sp flash tool is almost, but not quite, statically compiled
08:01<prectOS>The last step, says couldnt locate the packages libxp6 and another 2
08:01<jelly>you don't need those
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08:01<jelly>they are, as the web page says, "needed for matlab"
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08:03<prectOS>So what should i do now?
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08:04<jelly>reboot into the 64bit kernel
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08:07<phale>Can anyone help me? My internet was fine these few months but now it's really slow and laggy
08:07<phale>I've tried: disabling IPV6, using nohwcrypt and disabling powermanagement
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08:08<phale>and fixing that avarhi daemon bug, None of this worked and I'm lagging again. The issue fixed itself temporarily for 2 months but now its doing it again
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08:09<phale>I use Realtek 8192CE Wi-fi, which came built-in with my Lenovo Thinkpad X230
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08:10<Digitalcrypto>Are you downloading torrents?
08:10<phale>Nope.
08:10<Digitalcrypto>What kind of wireless router/access point do you have?
08:10<phale>You mean router model or?
08:10<Digitalcrypto>For example...I use pfsense router/firewall
08:11<Digitalcrypto>Do you use linksys belkin?
08:11<Digitalcrypto>etc?
08:11<phale>I use TP-LINK
08:11<Digitalcrypto>Have you recycled power on it recently?
08:11<phale>Not sure, I don't know what that means
08:11<Digitalcrypto>unplug it for 5 minutes...then plug it back in
08:11<jelly>5 minutes?
08:11<phale>Yeah, i've tried
08:11<Digitalcrypto>sure
08:12<jelly>why the delay?
08:12<Digitalcrypto>it's not good to pull power and put it back real quick on electronics
08:12<phale>So yeah I've tried that 15 minutes ago
08:12<Digitalcrypto>how close are you to the router?
08:12<phale>About a hallway away
08:12<phale>A small hallway though
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08:13<Digitalcrypto>like a dorm or home?
08:13<phale>home
08:13<Digitalcrypto>ok
08:13<Digitalcrypto>is anyone else using it?
08:13<phale>Nope
08:13<phale>According to my router I'm the only DHCP Client
08:13<Digitalcrypto>can you go to testmy.net and do a speed test?
08:13<phale>alright
08:13<bremner>how about other access points on the same channel?
08:13<bremner>or nearby channels?
08:13<Digitalcrypto>good point bremner
08:14<jelly>having them on the same channel is better than nearby channels
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08:14<phale>So
08:14<phale>its elling me
08:14<phale>Download :: 6.7 Mbps
08:14<Digitalcrypto>I don't mess with wifi so it's not exactly my forte
08:15<Digitalcrypto>Who is your provider?
08:15<phale>"Vipnet"
08:15<Digitalcrypto>ok
08:15<phale>http://testmy.net/db/GFc4Xdz5U see here
08:15<phale>those were my results
08:15<Digitalcrypto>Can you plug an ethernet cable into your computer near the router and test it again?
08:16<phale>I don't have one atm
08:16<Digitalcrypto>Need to make sure it's not the ISP
08:16<phale>I used to have one but I lost it somewhere
08:16<Digitalcrypto>yeah
08:16<phale>But yeah
08:16<phale>When I had it with my computer
08:16<Digitalcrypto>I would suggest doing that before hunting in the dark
08:16<phale>my internet connection was great
08:16<Digitalcrypto>Wifi is generally slow all the way around
08:17<phale>I've transmitted and received a lot of data yesterday
08:17<Digitalcrypto>It's fine for checking news, weather and maybe an email but
08:17<phale>could that be the reason why i'm lagging now?
08:17<Digitalcrypto>Your ISP may be throttling your connection
08:17<phale>I see
08:17<Digitalcrypto>Is this a DSL line or Cable?
08:17<jelly>phale: 7Mbps does not sound throttled for B.Net
08:18<phale>DSL
08:18<Digitalcrypto>ok that explains the slower speed
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08:18<jelly>Digitalcrypto: it's actually pretty good for .hr
08:18<Digitalcrypto>hr?
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08:18<jelly>their place of residence.
08:19<phale>My link quality goes from 78% to 90%
08:19<phale>etc
08:19<phale>which is average I think
08:19<Digitalcrypto>The thing with DSL is it is subject to weather conditions
08:19<jelly>phale: which debian release are you using?
08:19<phale>Debian 8.1 Jessie
08:19<phale>Digitalcrypto: It's warm here atrm
08:19<phale>atm
08:19<jelly>phale: and the default kernel? uname -r says what?
08:19<phale>3.16.0-4-686-pae
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08:20<jelly>that's a yes then
08:20<phale>yes to what?
08:20<jelly>default kernel
08:20<phale>oh
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08:20<phale>I don't know, /var/log/syslog says nothing about it
08:20<phale>neither does dmesg
08:20<Digitalcrypto>A similar problem and solution was mentioned here http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=107419
08:20<phale>whewn im lagging
08:21<jelly>phale: your machine is 64bit capable. You could install linux-image-amd64 and reboot into it. Probably won't make a lot of difference tho.
08:21<phale>apt-get upgrade?
08:21<Digitalcrypto>yes
08:21<prectOS>You should ask other users about it before getting any more technical
08:21<prectOS>brb Kappa
08:21<phale>will apt-get upgrade mess anything up
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08:21<jelly>phale: it's just patches.
08:22<Digitalcrypto>Alright. I gotta get back to work before boss (wife) sees me chatting instead of coding. Sorry I can't be of more help.
08:22<phale>This is a lot of patches
08:22<phale>I don't know
08:22<jelly>you did not update the system in a long while, then
08:22<phale>236 MB
08:23<phale>I'm scared
08:23<jelly>!comfort phale
08:23<dpkg>There, there, phale. It's OK. I'm here for you.
08:23<phale>ok
08:23<phale>I'll do it now
08:23<phale>uh oh
08:23<phale>im getting some 404s
08:24<jelly>phale: run "apt-get update" again
08:24<phale>after the upgrade?
08:24<jelly>no, Ctrl-C this one
08:24<phale>but
08:24<phale>will it mess up my installation
08:24<jelly>nope
08:24<phale>ok i di
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08:25<phale>0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
08:25<phale>;_;
08:26<phale>i cant apt-get upgrade anymore
08:26<phale>what od I do now
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08:26<phale>I ctrl-c'd
08:27<phale>and now I cant apt-get upgrade anymore
08:27<jelly>phale: do an apt-get update, first
08:27<phale>I did
08:27<phale>oh nvm
08:27<phale>yeah its upgrading now
08:27<phale>this shouldn't mess anything up right?
08:27<jelly>correct
08:28<jelly>unless you messed with sources
08:28<phale>well
08:28<prectOS>Hey again, so i restarted in 64b
08:28<phale>what do you mean by that
08:28<phale>sources.list?
08:28<jelly>phale: right
08:28<phale>well
08:28<phale>I only added the non-free thing
08:28<jelly>that's fine
08:28<phale>and the google thing,
08:28<jelly>what google thing?
08:29<phale>dl.google.com repo
08:29<jelly>what for?
08:29<prectOS>/etc/apt/
08:29<phale>installing google chrome, since it seemed to use a sandboxed version of Flash Player which Iceweasel didn't have the latest
08:29<phale>I needed it to go to a website which needed the latest version
08:29<jelly>for google-chrome-stable?
08:29<phale>yeah
08:29<jelly>that's fine too
08:29<phale>okay cool
08:29<phale>and then I reboot?
08:30<hermogenes> /msg dpkg
08:30<prectOS>And i am getting the error, error while loading shared libs libstdc++.so.6
08:30<jelly>phale: if there was a linux-image-something in the upgraded packages list, yes
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08:30<phale>there was
08:30<jelly>prectOS: show the command you're running and the whole output in a pastebin (paste.debian.net, for example)
08:30<phale>I'm afraid of rebooting and seeing a large error on my screen
08:31<jelly>phale: what about a small error?
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08:31<phale>that too
08:31<jelly>well... if you reboot and you see a small error, you'll know not to trust random people on irc
08:31<jelly>^_^
08:32<phale>ok
08:32<prectOS>So i downloaded that lib and now it gives me another missing lib
08:32<phale>well I mean
08:32<phale>apt-get upgrade shouldn't break anything
08:32<phale>because if it did it wouldnt be included ,
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08:34<jelly>that is correct if you only have repos for your release (jessie) and not anything else
08:34<phale>I removed the google repos
08:34<phale>but google-chrome-stable was still installed
08:34<jelly>right
08:34<phale>so im not sure if that will break anything
08:35<jelly>you probably want to keep Chrome up-to-date
08:35<prectOS>I am downloading the other missing lib if anyone cares lol
08:35<jelly>phale: but also, it probably added /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list on its own when you first installed it
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08:36<blubee>hi guys
08:36<jelly>prectOS: that means you're able to figure out the correct :amd64 packages containing those libs on your own, great
08:37<blubee>i am having trouble with unmet depencencies with installing from a experimental debian repo
08:37<blubee>http://pastebin.com/2miHTa9e
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08:38<phale>ok
08:38<phale>i am about to reboot
08:38<blubee>The official docs say that I can install from experimental with no issues: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
08:38<phale>Its gonna be alright..
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08:39<synt_>jelly: I rebooted
08:39<synt_>no errors whatsoever
08:39<jelly>blubee: shouldn't that command read "install" instead of "upgrade"
08:40<synt_>I hope my wifi is stabler now
08:40<jelly>synt_: I'm pretending I don't know you're phale
08:40<synt_>Sorry, for some reason "phale" is still here
08:40<synt_>even though I rebooted
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08:40<jelly>ah, you did not close the irc client properly
08:40<synt_>I just did sudo shutdown -r now
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08:42<synt_>so how do I get rid of him now
08:42<blubee>jelly install gives a similar error
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08:45<jelly>synt_: it's gone, just change the nick now
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08:45<phale>great
08:47<blubee>even trying to install the dependencies I still get errors
08:47<blubee>what is going on with this
08:48<jelly>blubee: hmm. You may have to add jessie-backports to the mix
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08:49<jelly>blubee: pastebin the outputs of "apt-get -s -t experimental install nvidia-driver nvidia-vdpau-driver=352.63-1" "apt-cache policy nvidia-driver nvidia-vdpau-driver libvdpau1" and "apt-cache policy"
08:49<blubee>jelly i do have jessie backports
08:49<blubee>http://pastebin.com/DaEbwhBz
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08:50<jelly>put all of that in a single pastebin if possible, please
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08:52<blubee>jelly here's the full pastebin: http://pastebin.com/Qj1n27Ad
08:54<jelly>blubee: you don't have jessie-backports enabled.
08:54<jelly>,v libvdpau1
08:54<judd>Package: libvdpau1 on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.4.1-2; squeeze-security-lts: 0.4.1-2+deb6u1; wheezy: 0.4.1-7; wheezy-security: 0.4.1-7+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 0.4.1-7+deb7u1; jessie: 0.8-3; jessie-security: 0.8-3+deb8u2; jessie-proposed-updates: 0.8-3+deb8u2; jessie-backports: 1.1.1-1~bpo8+1; sid: 1.1.1-3; stretch: 1.1.1-3
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08:54<jelly>blubee: there's no jessie-backports: 1.1.1-1~bpo8+1 version of libvdpau1 avaialable
08:55<jelly>dpkg, tell blubee about jessie-backports
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08:56<jelly>blubee: do the same three commands after adding jessie-backports (with contrib and non-free) and doing apt-get update
08:56<blubee>jelly I have to re-enable it, i noticed i commented it out
08:56<blubee>okay
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08:59<phale>My wifi seems to be nice
08:59<phale>tHis is great, thanks
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08:59<jelly>sometimes patching the kernel (and the drivers) helps
09:00<phale>Yeah
09:00<phale>:-)
09:00<jelly>keeping your system up to date is a good idea in any case
09:00<blubee>jelly: here's the updated pastebin: http://pastebin.com/mYyn6zEV
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09:01<phale>jelly: Nevermind
09:01<phale>I'm lagging again
09:01<jelly>blubee: right. Can you add libvdpau1=1.1.1-1~bpo8+1 to the apt-get install command and redo it
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09:03<jelly>blubee: which card do you have anyway, perhaps 340.93-8~bpo8+1 from jessie-backports would be new enough?
09:04<jelly>blubee: lspci -nn |grep VGA
09:06<phale>jelly: I seem to be lagging mostly when playing a game that requires sending a lot of data
09:06<blubee>jelly i have the nvidia 750m
09:06<phale>or receiving a lot of data
09:06<blubee>jelly i have the nvidia 750m01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 750M Mac Edition] [10de:0fe9] (rev a1)
09:06<blubee>I still get the same unmet dependencies error
09:07<jelly>nvidia-detect 10de:0fe9 says 340 ought to be ok
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09:07<blubee>this is the command that I run: sudo apt-get -s -t experimental install nvidia-driver libvdpau1=1.1.1-1~bpo8+1
09:07<blubee>so the 340 is fine for my 750m?
09:07<jelly>blubee: so do "apt-get -t jessie-backports install nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-driver" instead
09:08<jelly>can't say whether it works fine, but it's supported yes
09:09<phale>so...
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09:10<jelly>blubee: you're already using the 340 from jessie. Does it work fine, or isthere something missing?
09:10<jelly>but that's 340.65 and there's 340.93 in backports
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09:11<jelly>phale: dunno. you might try the kernel and firmware from jessie-backports yourself, see if it works any different
09:11<phale>ok
09:11<jelly>dpkg, tell phale about bdo kernel
09:11<phale>but i mean like
09:12<phale>it was fine before
09:12<phale>i just dont know what happened
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09:13<jelly>phale: it's hard to say. Maybe you upgraded and that _introduced_ a regression bug. Maybe you booted into windows and did something to the pci device,
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09:13<phale>I don't Dual boot and ithink
09:13<phale>like I said
09:13<phale>I think it was because I sent and received a lot of data
09:13<jelly>phale: maybe you have three new neighbours with wifi
09:14<jelly>what does "a lot" mean?
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09:14<phale>so that kind of delays but then afterwards lags me out a lot
09:14<phale>jelly: Well I just lag at random times
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09:14<phale>like now
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09:17<phale>jelly: I'm unsure what to do anymore
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09:18<phale>│RX: 139,092 (178.02 MiB), invalid: 0 nwid, 0 crypt, 0 frag, 849 misc │
09:18<phale>│TX: 83,139 (8.41 MiB), mac retries: 0, missed beacons: 0
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09:26<prectOS>So you're having a low download rate?
09:27<phale>yep
09:28<prectOS>Are you using any desktop interface?
09:28<phale>I'm using xfce + dwm
09:28<phale>but DWM main
09:28<phale>running on top of xfce
09:29<prectOS>You're connected to a router thru wifi?
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09:30<phale>yes, prectOS
09:30<prectOS>The wifi is encrypted and no one else uses it?
09:30<phale>sometimes
09:30<phale>my family uses it
09:31<phale>bu tnot now
09:31<prectOS>Is the lag continuous or occasional?
09:31<phale>continous
09:31<phale>well
09:31<phale>it occours randomly
09:31<phale>but wont go awray
09:31<phale>so continuous
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09:32<prectOS>When did this slowness started?
09:32<phale>Today
09:32<phale>I've experienced it before though
09:32<phale>before the problem fixed itself
09:33<phale>But I havent experienced it for 2 months
09:33<phale>:-/
09:33<prectOS>Try to form a single line when possible, in replying
09:33<phale>I'll try
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09:33<prectOS>Do you have this problem in other pc';s or os's ?
09:34<phale>I haven't tried, but on my computer which used to have an ethernet cable connected to it, I had an excellent connection
09:34<phale>It also ran Debian
09:34<prectOS>How did you notice the slowness?
09:34<bremner>no point really comparing wired with wireless
09:35<phale>prectOS: I was trying to load a web page but it wasnt loading very well
09:35<phale>then I noticed my LAG meter on my IRC client was full
09:35<phale>and kept doing +2.5 seconds etc
09:35<prectOS>true bremner
09:36<prectOS>Have tried using your eth cable again?
09:36<phale>I've lost it
09:36<blubee>jelly okay i updted to the latest backports version
09:36<blubee>i'll just have to leave it at that
09:36<blubee>thanks for the help
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09:39<prectOS>Whats the signal of ur wifi?
09:39<phale>According to wavemon
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09:39<phale>it flunctuates between 78% to 98% linkquality
09:39<phale>but the signal level is
09:39<phale>around -50 DBm at all times
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09:43<prectOS>use wget on any file to test the download speed available
09:43<phale>ok
09:43<phale>index.html [ <=> ] 18.87K --.-KB/s in 0.02s
09:44<prectOS>Try something larger
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09:44<phale>alright
09:45<phale>test10.zip 100%[=================================================================================================================================>] 11.00M 1.12MB/s in 15s
09:45<prectOS>Whats the internet speed given by ur provider?
09:45<phale>its supposed to be like 9m
09:45<phale>9mb
09:45<phale>but ive never gotten higher than 2mb
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09:46<prectOS>obviously
09:46<user>-hispano.org
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09:46<prectOS>If you used a larger file it would reach 2mbs i guess
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09:47<phale>probably
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09:47<phale>But still im not sure why its happening all of a sudden
09:47<phale>It was fine,
09:47<prectOS>Do you have a network monitor in ur xfce desktop?
09:47<phale>You mean like a traffic monitor?
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09:48<prectOS>Yeah
09:48<phale>yep
09:48<phale>what aout it?
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09:49<prectOS>You may use it to track down your network rates
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09:50<phale>well sig level is
09:50<phale>│[─] sig lvl (-48..-40 dBm)
09:50<phale>atm
09:50<prectOS>The up/dl rates
09:50<phale>no network rates mentioned
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09:50<phale>only bitrate
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09:53<prectOS>try nload
09:54<phale>alright
09:55<phale>outgoing 1.34kbs
09:55<phale>etc
09:55<phale>16mb ttl
09:55<phale>When downloading file
09:55<phale>incoming goes up to 11 mbs
09:55<phale>680 kbs outgoing
09:56<bremner>phale: again, please stop hitting return so much.
09:56<phale>ok
09:56<prectOS>Whats the max?
09:56<phale>16 mbs
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09:59<phale>I have to go now, though, I'll come back later depending on whether I still remain having problesm
09:59<prectOS>So the lag isn;t happening now?
09:59<phale>Nope.
09:59<phale>Anyways, goodbye, thanks for all the help
09:59<prectOS>Well see ya
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11:00<deb>Теперь вы оказались среди дружественной толпы обитателей канала #debian. Здесь вы можете задавать вопросы по Debian.
11:00<PovAddict>!ru
11:00<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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11:20<ak>this is my second message
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11:53<tom>I'm publishing a 1 page pdf with a creative commons license. Putting xmp metadata into a pdf: can it be done with free software?
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11:55<bremner>tom: maybe with pdfinfo
11:56<markybob>tom bremner no, that's a read-only tool. if you want to edit/write pdf metadata you need exiftool
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12:00<bremner>hmm. I remember using some pdf specific tool, perhaps "pdftk update_info"
12:00<tom>aha i must have missed exiftool. checking now...
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12:03<tom>oh dear, my first perl app
12:04<PovAddict>heh is it downloading a billion perl libraries? :)
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12:06<tom>tom just completed a first perl command line test!!
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12:06<markybob>i don't use libreoffice, but i assume if you export to pdf it'll give you metadata options if you want the "gui way". not sure though
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12:07<tom>the pdf is already made with commercial software (hence the problem...)
12:07<markybob>ah, yeah, then exiftool
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12:25<ckosloff>How to launch phpmyadmin in a remote server accessed from IP. I cannot use localhost there, must type IP first
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12:28<blast007>ckosloff: I'd recommend using an SSH tunnel to port 80 to access it, or using something like MySQL Workbench (which can connect to MySQL over an SSH tunnel)
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12:55<sn34k>whats up debian crew
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13:47<ckosloff>blast007: thanks for answer. Connecting to mysql is not a problem, I can do that via webmin, problem is how to launch phpmyadmin, to access localhost I type: IP/html, default webserver page appears, then what?
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13:49<blast007>!webmin
13:49<dpkg>Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives.
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14:15<ckosloff>blast007: thanks again for answer, but please forget about webmin, my problem is how to launch phpmyadmin in a remote server.
14:16<blast007>how do you launch it locally from the server? is it tied to a hostname? a directory? a port?
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14:17<sney>sounds like you need to configure the vhost in whatever webserver you are using. a2ensite phpmyadmin or equivalent.
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14:23<markybob>phpmyadmin doesn't by default block remote access. it's exactly the same.
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14:26<ckosloff>blast007: locally it is just localhost/phpmyadmin
14:27<markybob>same from remote. ip/phpmyadmin
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14:27<ckosloff>sney: most probably a2enconf
14:27<sney>hmm yeah more likely
14:28<blast007>ckosloff: then can't you set up an SSH tunnel on port 80 and access 'http://localhost/phpmyadmin' from your local system?
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14:36<ckosloff>markybob: ip/phpmyadmin throws 'not found'
14:36<markybob>ckosloff, what does it do for localhost/phpmyadmin on the actual host?
14:38<ckosloff>markybob: that is for my local server, on remote there is no localhost
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14:39<ckosloff>blast007: I can use ssh but do not know how to set up a tunnel, there should be an easier way
14:39<ckosloff>sney: ERROR: Conf phpmyadmin does not exist!
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14:40<blast007>An SSH tunnel is easy. How to do it just depends on what SSH client you're using.
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14:40<ckosloff>blast007: it is just the kde konsole
14:41<blast007>so OpenSSH then?
14:41<sney>ckosloff: "or equivalent"... go look in your apache config directories and see what's there before blindly typing commands
14:41<ckosloff>blast007: yes
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14:43<ckosloff>blast007: on my machine I am using Debian testing, the server is on stable, but I have a VM running on stable to communicate with server
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14:44<joelkraehemann>Hi all, I got a samsung tablet and now I want to debilein from fdroid.org, howto get root access?
14:44<blast007>ckosloff: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/PortForwarding#Local_Port_Forwarding (so something like 'ssh -L 8080:localhost:80 YourServerIP', complete the SSH login process, and then access http://localhost:8080/phpmyadmin on your local system)
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14:48<markybob>joelkraehemann, i don't know. ask #fdroid
14:49<joelkraehemann>Yeah, just found it on freenode
14:50<ckosloff>blast007: my ssh is not in default port 22, I moved to something else for security
14:51<blast007>"for security", and then you run webmin?
14:51<markybob>ckosloff, that doesn't make it more secure. nmap -sS will find it
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14:51<Encrypt>Hello guys o/
14:51<Encrypt>I have a problem with my keyboard layout
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14:52<markybob>!key layout
14:52<Encrypt>I had, in the correct order: FR ("standard") / US(qwerty)
14:52<markybob>damnit
14:52<Encrypt>I wanted: FR (latin-9) / US(qwerty)
14:52<ckosloff>blast007: because of the above, I am getting connection refused
14:52<markybob>Encrypt, dpkg-reconfigure locales
14:52<Encrypt>I edited the file /etc/default/keyboard and switched both configurations
14:52<blast007>ckosloff: so... include the right port?
14:53<Encrypt>So, when I arrive at the login screen, latin9 is already set
14:53<markybob>ckosloff, man ssh. you'll clearly see "-p" option for port
14:53<Encrypt>But once I open my gnome-shell session, the keyboard layout is automatically US (qwerty)
14:54<ckosloff>markybob: that is what I use to connect -p xyz
14:54<markybob>ckosloff, but don't be fooled to thinking that changing your port makes you more secure. use keys and/or fail2ban or some such
14:55<Encrypt>Hum
14:55<Encrypt>markybob, How can that affect the prefered keyboard layout?
14:55<ckosloff>markybob: will do, but now please let's focus on phpmyadmin
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14:55<markybob>ckosloff, i tried. you still didn't answer me about localhost. just told me localhost doesn't exist remotely. like i didn't know that.
14:56<Encrypt>Ah!
14:56<ckosloff>markybob: what should I say? IP/localhost returns 'not found'
14:56<Encrypt>Localectl shows us as VC Keymap
14:57<markybob>ckosloff, so if it doesn't work on localhost why do you expect it to work remotely? i'm starting to wonder if you even installed phpmyadmin the debian way(tm)
14:57<ckosloff>markybob: yes, I installed from repo
14:57<markybob>ckosloff, with apache?
14:58<ckosloff>markybob: yes
14:58<markybob>ckosloff, pastebin your configs
14:58<ckosloff>markybob: it works on my local VM
14:58<markybob>sigh
14:59<ckosloff>markybob: which configs? where?
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15:01<Encrypt>Ok, I found something
15:01<Encrypt>I'll reboot, time to try
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15:03<ckosloff>markybob: there is an apache.conf in /etc/phpmyadmin, many web answers recommend to include it in apache2.conf
15:03<sney>and here's the point where someone asks if you tried that yet
15:04<ckosloff>sney: are you talking to me?
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15:05<Tbyte>hi!
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15:05<Tbyte>guys i have a question
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15:06<Tbyte>i had atlon x3 processor now i upgraded to a x8 eight cores processor the question is if i have to do some kind of changes on my Os to adapt to the new processor?
15:07<markybob>Tbyte, you should probably install amd64-microcode
15:07<Tbyte>i'm on it
15:08<Tbyte>done
15:08<markybob>Tbyte, that's it :P
15:08<Tbyte>Hope it fix the laggy feeling i had
15:08<Tbyte>thanks ! :)
15:09<Tbyte>amd64-microcode: microcode will be updated at next boot
15:09<Tbyte>so
15:09<Tbyte>brb!! cya ^^
15:09<markybob>yes
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15:12<Tbyte>i think it worked! :D cuz i had in system monitor CPU 8 at 100% now is 2%
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15:12<markybob>Tbyte, cool :)
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15:33<ijk__>hi
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15:40<joelkraehemann>What port to use with Arm Cortex-A7 to do cross compile?
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15:41<amacater>armhf, probably
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15:42<joelkraehemann>Great, I thought it would be arm64
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15:46<amacater>For now, try armhf _unless_ you're sure that it's ARM 8 64 bit arch. ARM Cortex A7 is 32 bit :)
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15:46*amacater is also often confused so used Google and is not super clever
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16:57<ckosloff>I found https://degreesofzero.com/article/manage-remote-mysql-servers-with-local-phpmyadmin.html
16:58<ckosloff>this shows how to use a local phpmyadmin with remote servers, no need to even install an instance in remote server
16:59<ckosloff>It uses ssh tunnelling, so I think that blast007 was on the right path, I will try that and take into account everything that was discussed about security, thanks for all answers
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17:11<whatanoiceman>Am I in the right place to ask about driver issues?
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17:11<danielsh>if they're with debian, yes
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17:13<whatanoiceman>Okay then... I have intel graphics with OpenGL 4.3. I am trying to run a game that needs 4.1. The game is telling me I dont have 4.1.
17:13<sney>it is more likely a multiarch issue
17:14<whatanoiceman>A multiarch issue?
17:14<whatanoiceman>How?
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17:15<towo`>i don't think you have opengl 4.3 in debian stable
17:15<towo`>there you have only mesa 10.x, which gives opengl 3.x
17:15<whatanoiceman>I'm on Debian Test
17:16<whatanoiceman>Is there a command to check mesa version?
17:16<towo`>glxinfo | grep OpenGL
17:17<whatanoiceman>glxinfo command not found...
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17:17<towo`>then install mesa-utils
17:17<whatanoiceman>kk
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17:18<Guest2720>how to install and configure in wine should jessie
17:19<Guest2720>how to install and configure on debian wine jessie
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17:19<whatanoiceman>I have OpenGL core profile 3.3 and mesa 11.0.7
17:19<whatanoiceman> Where can I get the latest mesa driver?
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17:20<towo`>whatanoiceman, from experimental
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17:21<whatanoiceman>but how can I download it early without going experimental
17:21<towo`>you can't
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17:21<towo`>mesa are lots of packages
17:21<whatanoiceman>for different cards?
17:21<towo`>and you need them all
17:22<whatanoiceman>okay
17:22<whatanoiceman>what mesa driver is in sid?
17:22<towo`>what's the problem with installing mesa from experimental besides, that this channel is the wrong?
17:22<towo`>11.0.8-1 is in sid
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17:22<towo`>and would not help you
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17:23<whatanoiceman>What other drivers can I get?
17:23<towo`>there are no other drivers
17:24<Guest2720>Please, I have debian jessie as install and configure wine
17:24<towo`>then do it
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17:26<bombillo>Please, I have debian jessie as install and configure wine
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17:28<grove>bombillo: Last time I tried (but that is many years ago) wine just worked after installation. I can't imagine it has goten worse, so if you need configurtion you must have a problem or special needs, in either case you should say what you need help with (and as I said, it has been many years since I used wine last, so I probably can't help)
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17:30<tt>curious, is mono the same as wine? what's the difference?
17:32<bombillo>how to install wine in debian
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17:35<tt>bombillo: apt-get install wine
17:35<tt>bombillo: aptitude is your friend
17:36<towo`>this will not help many
17:36<tt>use aptitude program to see all the available software that you can install
17:37<towo`>since the most games are 32bit, multiarch has to be enabled and wine:i386 must be installed
17:37<towo`>the easyer way would be using of playonlinux
17:37<towo`>but multiarch is nessesary
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17:39<tt>i was wondering how to install the driver for my video card. it is an AMD/ATI card that is at least a year old. i don't have the exact model handy
17:39<tt>it is for a different computer than i am using now
17:40<towo`>lspci | grep -i vga would tell you the model
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17:42<tt>this is what it says for the computer i am using now. it worked without having to do anything... 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 TurboCache] (rev a1)
17:42<tt>but it is an old card
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17:44<towo`>for the ati card, you need xserver-xorg-video-ati and firmware-linux-nonfree installed
17:44<tt>is there any plans to have an official release for Raspberry Pi system?
17:44<whatanoiceman>I read that mesa can have openGL 4.x but it needs to be compiled with it. So can I get openGL 4 if i goto sid?
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17:45<bombillo>as playonlinux install in debian
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17:45<towo`>whatanoiceman, afaik you only get opengl 4.x in mesa 11.1, not with 11.0.x
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17:47<tt>so... once i have found the vga info about my card, how do i find the driver for it?
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17:48<towo`>tt, [23:44:30] <towo`> for the ati card, you need xserver-xorg-video-ati and firmware-linux-nonfree installed
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17:55<whatanoiceman>towo`: Yes I can get a newer mesa. Someone outlined how to do it here: http://a3nm.net/blog/debian_mesa.html
17:56<towo`>you can get mesa 11.1 from experimental, you haven't to compile anything
17:57<whatanoiceman>tell me how. Thanks!
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18:00<whatanoiceman>towo`:How can I download a package like mesa from experimental branch?
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18:05<towo`>whatanoiceman, add experimental entrys to your sources, apt update && apt -t experimental install lbgl1-mesa-glx
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18:11<whatanoiceman>My sources.list entries are like this: deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian stretch main
18:11<whatanoiceman>deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian stretch main
18:11<whatanoiceman>deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian stretch-updates main
18:11<whatanoiceman>deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian stretch-updates main
18:11<whatanoiceman>deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main
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18:13<whatanoiceman>towo`:So i just add experimental to the end of each sources.list entry?
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18:18<tt>whatanoiseman: this should work: deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ experimental main
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18:19<whatanoiceman>Thanks! cause I just added experimental to each entry and I'm gettin errors...
18:21<tt>whatanoiseman: i think that you leave the other lines in your sources.list and ADD the experimental line
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18:28<whatanoiceman>tt: your right but now I have: "E: Unable to locate package lbgl1-mesa-glx"
18:29<whatanoiceman>tt: I'm just gonna revert all of my changes and compile using some instructions i found...
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18:34<whatanoiceman>tt: Thanks for your help anyway...
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18:49<tt>whatanoiseman: make sure to add a "deb-src" line and see if you can locate it in there maybe. not sure
18:49<tt>oh... just remembered... look it up on debian.org packages
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18:52<tt>whatanoiseman: i found it: https://packages.debian.org/experimental/libgl1-mesa-glx
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19:21<Welington>Hello boys
19:21<Welington>Boa noite a todos
19:21<Welington>Tudo bem?
19:21<Welington>Algum Brasileiro ai?
19:21<bremner>!pt
19:21<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
19:21<Welington>Como faço isso?
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19:42<whatanoiceman>How can I install libgl1-mesa-glx from experimental?
19:42<whatanoiceman>I'm on testing if that helps
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19:45<bremner>whatanoiceman: see #debian-next for testing support
19:45<whatanoiceman>Okay thanks!
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20:03<whatanoiceman>Hi, I have installed a new version of "libgl1-mesa-glx". How can I set this as my preferred graphics driver?
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21:25<tt>does SDR# (http://airspy.com/download/) work with wine or similar?
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22:42<r4f_Debian>HI all
22:44<r4f_Debian>I have two applications installed on my Debian Jessie, to check about temperature, Psensor and hddtemp, but no of them measure processor temperature. is there any application that I can install on Debian, which is able to measure Processor temperature ?
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22:46<coruja>try inxi (including recommended lm-sensors)
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22:46<rno>maybe "sensors" is a cli exe going along with package lm-sensors
22:46<r4f_Debian>Hi coruja. In the case of lm-sensors, does not run here
22:47<r4f_Debian>it is not installed, search for sensors, does not find anything and doesn't install anything useful for the purpose I have in mind. I will try inxi, instead. Thanks !
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22:49<r4f_Debian>coruja, inxi is being installed here. Is it an command line app ?
22:50<r4f_Debian>a command line, sorry
22:50<coruja>yes
22:50<coruja>kind of system information script
22:50<r4f_Debian>do I have just typing 'inxi' on terminal, and it starts the application ?
22:51<coruja>try inxi -s for sensor info
22:51<r4f_Debian>ok, and it shows me the 'processor' temperature ?
22:51<r4f_Debian>inxi -s ?
22:52<coruja>for more details look up its manpage :)
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22:53<r4f_Debian>ok coruja, just needed a fast information here, but you helped me a lot. Thank you very much, Warrior !
22:53<r4f_Debian>lm-sensors (1:3.3.5-2) was set up here through the path you showed me, coruja, Thanks !
22:54<coruja>you're welcome
22:55<r4f_Debian>coruja, sorry disturbing you again, but when I opened inxi through 'inxi -s', it replied the following information: Sensors: None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured ?
22:56<coruja>runs fine here on jessie
22:56<coruja>Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 48.5C mobo: N/A
22:56<r4f_Debian>but, in the case, I have to configure lm-sensors, I suppose...
22:56<r4f_Debian>that's what I need, this information
22:57<coruja>is lm-sensors really installed?
22:58<r4f_Debian>I think not, but I tried to install it in the past, and with no positive result
22:59<r4f_Debian>I used apt-get install... here, and displays the message: lm-sensors is already the newest version....
23:00<r4f_Debian>I type 'sensors' and replies: no sensors found...
23:00<r4f_Debian>make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need...
23:00<coruja>maybe (but rather unlikely) your cpu isn't capable of showing its temp
23:01<r4f_Debian>strange, if I use windows xp here, with apps for it, it shows me cpu temperature....
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23:01<r4f_Debian>I suppose Debian does it better than Windows...
23:02<coruja>ok, then it should do
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23:02<r4f_Debian>this issue remains with no solution....
23:03<r4f_Debian>information here suggests me to use sensors-detect
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23:04<rno>kernel module name is hwmon maybe trying lsmod | grep hwmon
23:05<coruja>or lsmod | grep coretemp
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23:06<r4f_Debian>rno - lsmod | grep hwmon ?
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23:06<r4f_Debian>or lsmod | grep coretemp ?
23:07<r4f_Debian>the 1st option does not show any information here
23:07<coruja>try both to be sure ;)
23:07<r4f_Debian>lsmod | grep hwmon
23:07<r4f_Debian>surely, coruja, I will try your option now
23:08<r4f_Debian>no answer for lsmod | grep coretemp....
23:08<r4f_Debian>both commands don't reply any info
23:08<coruja>modprobe coretemp
23:08<r4f_Debian>ok, let me try here coruja...
23:08<r4f_Debian>and thanks for attention
23:09<coruja>not for too long, 5 am here and bed is waiting ;)
23:09<r4f_Debian>sorry coruja, you need to sleep
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23:09<r4f_Debian>here says: 'coretemp': no such device
23:10<r4f_Debian>I will try it afterwards, have you a good rest coruja, and thanks for attention again !
23:10<coruja>hmm, kind of exotic cpu there?
23:10<coruja>welcome again ;)
23:10<r4f_Debian>don't know, coruja, it's an old machine: 2006, ehehehe
23:11<coruja>inxi -C
23:11<r4f_Debian>coruja, I'm worried about yours, you have to sleep ! Thanks again, but I don't want to disturb you anymore !
23:11<r4f_Debian>Thanks, Dear Warrior !
23:13*coruja is not a warrior btw, rather the opposite ;)
23:13<r4f_Debian>ok, I use this expression positively, but sorry
23:14<r4f_Debian>I used it to express my good feelings about yours
23:14<coruja>i know, it was just a remark
23:15<coruja>so, do you mind showing the output of inxi -C?
23:15<r4f_Debian>yes ! inxi -C showed some info here, cache: 256 KB, clocked at 2659 Mhz
23:16<r4f_Debian>the name of my processor: Intel Celeron ( -UP-) is also displayed...
23:16<r4f_Debian>but not the processor temperature...
23:16<r4f_Debian>but, as I said you before, Dear coruja, worried about yours. It's too late and you have to go to bed
23:16<coruja>then i'm out of ideas for now, maybe one of the 666 others joins in
23:16<r4f_Debian>I will try it afterwards
23:17<r4f_Debian>yes, I will find you here other occasion !
23:17<coruja>gn8 then ;)
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23:17<r4f_Debian>nice, really nice to see you here, coruja !
23:17<r4f_Debian>Bye ! Good Sleep and Rest !
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