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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-12-27

---Logopened Sun Dec 27 00:00:37 2015
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01:34<mint>merry christmas all
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03:39<yang>I am geting error "W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8107e-2.fw for module r8169" http://paste.debian.net/hidden/072b5237/ I was googling for solution which suggests installing "firmware-realtek" and "firmware-linux" I have both and it doesnt fix the issue (I have a manually compiled kernel)
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03:51<yang>Google tells me that the missing realtek firmware files were added in version 0.44
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03:54<yang>solved
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03:55<xayto>ls
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04:02<yang>Getting slightly different error now http://paste.debian.net/356502/
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04:25<tonko>hi?
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04:30<tonko>anyone willing to help me troubleshoot a wifi problem on jessie?
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05:53<tom>Adding xmp data to a pdf. I did exiftool -wm c -file.xmp myfile.pdf but exiftool reports only reading, not writing...
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06:24<FLD>why aren't backported packages kept up to date by apt by default?
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06:25<FLD>apt-get upgrade just keeps them at current version even if there is a newer version available
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06:29<cato>Hi, I am looking for debian developers or maintainers to sign my gpg key at the 32nd chaos communication congress in hamburg. anyone available or have a hint where to seek?
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06:35<bremner>cato: try #debian-devel
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06:36<cato>bremner: thanks
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06:37<tom>FLD: perhaps because backports are, by definition, not part of a distribution... you can of course add a line to your sources.list like "deb http://http.debian.net/debian-backports squeeze-backports(-sloppy) main"
06:38<FLD>i had a pinning to set all backports to -1
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06:38<FLD>that's probably a stupid idea
06:39<bremner>not needed, in any case.
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06:41<FLD>looks like the default pinning for backports is 100
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06:56<tom>exiftool doesn't document writing xmp to pdf files. I need it for only one file. Has anyone a Adobe Acrobat to write xmp to a pdf please?
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07:03<bremner>tom: pdftk update_info might help
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07:15<tom>bremner: update-info: does not seem fit for xmp: when I extract the xmp again, i see only one long line of text, and not the data I wanted to put in. I tried pfdtk file.pdf update_info license.xmp output resultado.pdf
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07:18<bremner>I don't think xmp is the right input format
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07:19<bremner>ah, in deed, "this operation does not change the metadata stored in the PDF's xmp stream". I suppose the xmp stream is what you are after
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07:20<tom>pdftk manpage states: update_info does not change the metadata stored in de pdf's xmp stream...
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07:59<goloce>Anyone migrate from Debian 32 bit to 64 bit successful ?
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08:20<usrnix>That's a bit odd, I just registered on alioth, but after verifying email and logging in it says user doesn't exist, but trying to create the same user results in 'Unix name already taken' :(
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08:24<pi___>hey
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08:26<bremner>usrnix: you might try #alioth
08:26<usrnix>bremner: cheers
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11:47<ckosloff>I need some help setting up an ssh tunnel to my remote server...
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11:48<ckosloff>remote does not use default port 22 for ssh, it has been changed to something else, but I could change it back...
11:48<gbit>-P port
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11:50<ckosloff>I am using ssh -NL 3307:localhost:'my ssh port' root@IP, not working
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11:51<ckosloff>gbit: for normal connections I do use -p
11:51<C-Keen>ssh -p your-port user@host
11:51<C-Keen>you can also put that into a .ssh/config entry for the host for convenience
11:51<aleksandar>'Add "contrib" and "non-free" components to /etc/apt/sources.list, for example...' Does it mean do add it to 'main' (first) repository, or to all, including security?
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11:52<ckosloff>C-Keen: what would be syntax for ssh tunnel?
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11:53<C-Keen>ssh -Llocalport:host:remoteport user@host
11:53<C-Keen>as you did
11:53<ckosloff>C-Keen: but that did not work
11:53<C-Keen>-N if you don't want a shell at all just the forwarding
11:53<C-Keen>ckosloff: what does "not work" mean
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11:54<ckosloff>C-Keen: did not connect
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11:54<C-Keen>ckosloff: please be more specific
11:54<C-Keen>ckosloff: try with a -v flag for more verbose output
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11:55<C-Keen>ckosloff: ah your example might not be doing what you want to do
11:56<C-Keen>ckosloff: so IIRC you have a sshd listening on a nonstandard port remotely right?
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11:56<C-Keen>ckosloff: in that case your forwarding command will fail as the ssh call will still try to connect to the standard ssh port, then establish the forwarding tunnel
11:56<ckosloff>C-Keen: debug1: Connecting to IP port 22, but that is not the port set up on remote host.
11:57<ckosloff>C-Keen: right
11:57<C-Keen>ckosloff: so additionally give the ssh call the -p option as well, in that case it will connect to the right port, then sets up forwarding for you
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11:57<ckosloff>C-Keen: what would be final syntax, please
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11:58<C-Keen>ssh -p remote-port -NL localport:host:remote-port user@host
11:59<ckosloff>C-Keen: moment, trying
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12:08<C-Keen>ckosloff: *crossesfingers*
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12:10<ckosloff>C-Keen: I am trying this, ssh -p 'remote port' -NL 3307:localhost:80 root@IP
12:10<ckosloff>it is asking for password but it does not go anywhere, stalled
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12:12<ckosloff>C-Keen: I also tried the -p at the end, wth same results, maybe I should return to default 22
12:13<la>como estas
12:13<la>hola
12:13<la>como te llamas
12:14<C-Keen>ckosloff: well how do you authenticate yourself usually? Of course it asks for a password...
12:14<ckosloff>C-Keen: I enter the correct pass and it stops
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12:14<C-Keen>ckosloff: yes, with the -N parameter it won't open a shell
12:15<ckosloff>C-Keen: trying that
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12:15<C-Keen>ckosloff: what's your use case btw? I don't understand why you want the forwarding at all
12:16<la>holaaaaa
12:16<ckosloff>C-Keen: it worked, I need ssh tunneling for this use case https://degreesofzero.com/article/manage-remote-mysql-servers-with-local-phpmyadmin.html
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12:17<C-Keen>ckosloff: I see. Nice that it works now. For a more permanent solution you'd want to have a look at man ssh_config
12:18<C-Keen>There you can add all the options for the specific host, so you can just run a simple "ssh host"
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12:19<ckosloff>C-Keen: of course, I will have to investigate all this further, thanks for the help
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12:24<C-Keen>ckosloff: good luck!
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12:54<kernelcorn>hi guys. I've been trying to find a workaround that would allow me to set up swap on a OpenVZ VPS. I ran across http://linux-problem-solver.blogspot.ca/2013/08/create-fake-swap-in-openvz-vps-if-you-get-swapon-failed-operation-not-permitted-error.html, which describes a script that supposedly sets up a swapfile. My question is, where is this file and does this actually do swap? Near as I can see, it just makes the system think that there is
12:54<kernelcorn>swap when in reality there isn't any. What's actually going on here?
12:54<kernelcorn>the instructions in that link are also copied across multiple websites, so supposedly it's a good idea
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13:01<throwthecheese>Hi
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13:02<throwthecheese>It seems like that since Wheezy was released, Blender Render hates Nouveau
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13:04<throwthecheese>When I try to use the default engine in Blender, I don't get a correct result, only a part of it
13:04<throwthecheese>However, Cycles and the Game engine works like a charm with Nouveau
13:05<throwthecheese>Also, the splash screen is mangled if I use Nouveau
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13:27<toogley>should the gpg key contain the complete realname when one's wants to go to a keysigning party? // does it lower the reputation, when the realname is not included?
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13:28<throwthecheese>I have a problem with Blender Render
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13:34<throwthecheese>Specificly, this: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1t0fmf&s=9
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13:55<kernelcorn>toogley: usually the real name is there, yes
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14:02<toogley>well thx kernelcorn
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14:31<dpkg>Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>.
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14:54<suchmystery>hello. i've been trying to get dual monitors (one HDMI, one DVI) working on my fresh testing install. because it's not detecting both the monitors (it only switches to the second, smaller one once I set the resolution of the HDMI monitor to its resolution, then the displays are mirrored even as it still doesn't detect the other monitor, with the HD
14:54<suchmystery>MI monitor working at the wrong resolution), i've decided to install the amd proprietary drivers (my GPU is a Radeon HD 7790) first to see if the problem is related to that. however, apt-get refuses to install them, giving the error "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." thanks in advance.
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14:55<suchmystery>my DE is xfce, sorry to leave that out
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14:58<shaikh>hi
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15:00<shaikh>how to get win 7 new vulnerability
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15:03<suchmystery>here's a paste of everything apt-get says once I try to install the drivers: http://paste.debian.net/356651/
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15:07<suchmystery>oh. nevermind. i've accidentally blindly copy+pasted from the wiki's page for ATIProprietary, when i added the source for contrib and non-free, and put in the jessie repo by mistake. sorry.
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15:10<knoppix_>hey all
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15:11<Guest2851>hey all
15:11<Guest2851>german here ?
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15:21<suchmystery>hello, again. right after installing the amd proprietary drivers on my new testing install (for my HD 7790), and after running sudo aticonfig --initial + rebooting, debian now boots up to a black screen. keypresses do nothing; there's not even a blinking cursor in the corner of the screen. i would give logs, but i can't get into the CLI. is there any way to fix this issue, or should i just reinstall?
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15:23<bremner>suchmystery: can you boot to single user mode?
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15:24<suchmystery>i'll see, bremner
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15:29<suchmystery>no, i can't. when i try to do so using GRUB, the system says "Cannot open access to console, the root account is locked."
15:29<suchmystery>pressing enter to continue just repeats the cycle again.
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15:30<peter1138>init=/bin/bash
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15:30<s11g>tudo NEGBRO
15:30<s11g>ADOROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
15:30<s11g>beijo na boca
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15:31<suchmystery>alright, i'll try that
15:32<bremner>suchmystery: in grub, you selected advanced options, then recovery mode?
15:33<suchmystery>oh, no. i just added the option single in place of quiet while i was editing the debian commands before booting. i'll try that.
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15:34<suchmystery>and it gives me the exact same error as before: "Cannot open access to console, the root account is locked."
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15:35<Kamil_>Hello, how do I install Debian alongside Windows 8.1 (non-UEFI)? Will the installer do everything that's required for the combination to work?
15:35<bremner>suchmystery: huh. It just asks me for the root password
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15:35<suchmystery>i didn't set a root password when installing, though.
15:36<bremner>ah. you might be screwed then. not sure.
15:36<suchmystery>oh. that sucks.
15:36<bremner>well, the other trick with init might still work
15:36<suchmystery>i mean, i can always reinstall debian again
15:37<suchmystery>but i'll try that trick
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15:41<suchmystery>init=/bin/bash works! thanks peter1138
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15:43<suchmystery>wait, which logs should i upload, though? just Xorg's?
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15:44<root>hello nerds
15:45<root>bye nerds
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15:49<Kamil_>Can the latest AMD GPU drivers (Crimson Edition 15.12) be installed on Debian?
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15:52<lzz>Kamil_: seems to be no..as a short answer
15:52<lzz>,v fglrx-driver
15:52<judd>Package: fglrx-driver on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 1:10-9-3squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 1:12-3-1~bpo60+1; wheezy/non-free: 1:12-6+point-3; wheezy-backports/non-free: 1:14.9+ga14.201-2~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 1:14.9+ga14.201-2; jessie-backports/non-free: 1:15.9-2~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 1:15.9-2; sid/non-free: 1:15.9-2
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15:54<Kamil_>I see, when can we expect those drivers to be available? They're already there on AMD's website so I guess someone needs to make them work with Debian?
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15:57<suchmystery>ok, i've copied xorg.0.log, xorg.0.log.old, syslog, and user.log to a flash drive from the machine. should i upload all of those, or just xorg?
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16:07<suchmystery>actually, nevermind.
16:07<suchmystery>i'll just reinstall everything, it doesn't matter anyways
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16:13<debnoob>I realize this is off topic, but nobody seems to be in debian-live....
16:14<debnoob>does anyone know the default username and password for the debian 8.2 standard live cd?
16:14<debnoob>boots fine. can't get past login.
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16:15<peter1138>user / live ?
16:15<debnoob>will try that.
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16:15<debnoob>it worked! thanks!
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16:20<debnoob>names
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16:43<Arcade>Can I ask does gnome logs not work due to the conversion over to systemd.
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17:43<maira>!tellme about sbb
17:43<bremner>Arcade: seems unlikely, since the description mentions systemd
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17:44<maira>!tellme about sdb
17:44<maira>!tellme about sbd
17:44<bremner>!tail maira about ssb
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17:44<maira>thanks
17:44<bremner>err.
17:44<maira>!tellme about ssb
17:44<maira>!tell maira about ssb
17:45<bremner>Arcade: what "doesn't work"? are you maybe not a member of the right groups?
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17:51<maira>how can i install an wheezy package on my jessie?
17:51<maira>need xserver-xorg-video-sis
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17:55<maira>how can i install an wheezy package on my jessie?
17:55<maira>need xserver-xorg-video-sis
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17:59<maira>how can i install an wheezy package on my jessie?
17:59<maira>need xserver-xorg-video-sis
18:00<lzz>i don't think repeating helps much....
18:01<lzz>mixing wheezy and jessie packages is a bad idea and loses support
18:01<maira>but i need the driver
18:01<maira>need xserver-xorg-video-sis
18:01<maira>build source form sid??
18:02<musca>maira: the old driver will not work with a more recent xserver-xorg
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18:02<maira>musca, but the newer!?!?!?!??
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18:03<musca>maira: there is no newer driver for that ancient hardware.
18:03<maira>- -
18:04<maira>o deb repos there is a driver on sid
18:04<musca>,v xserver-xorg-video-sis
18:04<judd>Package: xserver-xorg-video-sis on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:0.10.3-1; squeeze-backports: 1:0.10.3-3~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:0.10.4-1
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18:19<hajk>hi, i am pretty new with linux and just installed Lubuntu on my netbook, any tips how to get staarted?
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18:21<MrFrood>hajk: you could try asking in the ubuntu channel
18:21<MrFrood>!ubuntu
18:21<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
18:21<hajk>looks like a good idea
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18:24<praveen>greeshma
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18:37<xvistaman>hello
18:37<xvistaman>i had a few questions about the debian dvd images avalbe for download
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18:40<xvistaman>i see there are 3 images for the dvd images i take thees contain extra packages that would normaly be downlaoded over a apt mirror but can some one please define what the update images are there seems to be 2 of them for 8.0 i would jsut like some short explantion as to what is on them all thanks
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18:51<alex010101>hello
18:52<musca>hello alex010101
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18:54<alex010101>anyone around who know about ipv6/network routing? i am lost right now
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18:54<musca>xvistaman: the 8.2 update images contain collected updated packages since the original 8.0 release
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18:55<musca>xvistaman: especially useful for ownwers of the original 8.0 images.
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20:07<Arcade>bremner, quite possibly let me check
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20:09<Arcade>I see the issue bremner when launching it does not run as root
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20:10<bremner>Arcade: I don't use gnome-log, but I would guess it uses the same groups as journalctl. You can see the group names in man journalctl
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20:34<felipy>oiii
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20:45<Arcade>I see bremner : Members of the groups "systemd-journal", "adm", and "wheel" can read all journal files.
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20:52<bremner>Arcade: yeah, so you could try adding your user to the group systemd-journal
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22:10<xvistaman>another prehaps dumb question but ill ask any ways do the extra dvds inlude the main conrtib and nonfree repos or jsut main
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22:11<bremner>just main, on all the official CDs/DVDs
22:12<xvistaman>ok
22:12<xvistaman>any ways to make a backup of the others
22:12<markybob>xvistaman, sure. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD
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22:16<xvistaman>ok sorry for all the newb questions
22:16<xvistaman>ill have a read
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22:20<sleser>is it posible to convert my 32 bit jessie to 64bit without loosing any settings and stuf
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