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---Logopened Mon Dec 28 00:00:17 2015
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01:13<the-careta>help join
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01:55<yannsy>slt
01:56<yannsy>hi
01:56<errorsiniak>hi
01:56<errorsiniak>я установить пакет: "UTILITY_PROCESS_CRASHED_WHILE_TRYING_TO_INSTALL". Не удалось установить пакет из-за сбоя. Перезагрузите
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01:56<yannsy>hi
01:57<errorsiniak>UTILITY_PROCESS_CRASHED_WHILE_TRYING_TO_INSTALL
01:57<errorsiniak>yt gjlcrf;tnt xnj pf jib,rf
01:57<errorsiniak>не подскажете что за ошибка?
01:57<errorsiniak>не устанавливается дополнения в гуглхром
01:57<yannsy>what?
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01:58<errorsiniak>Additions are not installed
01:58<errorsiniak>what to do?
01:58<errorsiniak> UTILITY_PROCESS_CRASHED_WHILE_TRYING_TO_INSTALL
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---Logclosed Mon Dec 28 02:44:23 2015
---Logopened Mon Dec 28 03:00:05 2015
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03:01<Stummi>mylar, so, you have a disk which is already partitioned and has empty filesystems and just want to install debian into them?
03:02<lyz>this starting to be messing with installer but i thought you want manually set up root dir or something ... from memory ... debian installer has /target which is the target root dir
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03:03<mylar>Stummi: yes, I would like something easier than debootstrap
03:04<cheapie>I think what you want is to pick partitions and choose the proper mount point options, but turn the format option off.
03:04<cheapie>(not entirely sure what it calls it, but it should be in the menu for each partition in the partitioning menu)
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03:08<mylar>I'll do some experiments with feeding it a dud config and then re-partitioning
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03:26<coker>hi all
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05:16<sven>hej hej, are there any tools to easily configure a firewall for a debian jessie?
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05:17<d3nny>sven, how about shorewall? or what do you mean?
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05:22<sven>d3nny: Yes, it does. I want to configure the firewall of a jessie server and i was looking for something easier than configuring the iptable rules on my own. I used the firewalld from fedora before and the configuration was relativly easy. Thanks for the tip.
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05:23<winsen>Hi all
05:23<winsen>anybody home?
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05:30<d3nny>olivenspitze, then have a look at shorewall - it's an easy iptables firewall. You just need to configure some things and then just a rule file. There are some really good examples on the shorewall doc page (there are also example files installed via deb-file)
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05:32<olivenspitze>d3nny: Thank i will look further into the documentation and will ask again, if i do not understand something ;)
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05:35<d3nny>olivenspitze, you're welcome :)
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05:46<K1dX>hello all
05:46<K1dX>how do I install debian
05:47<K1dX>I am not new to debian but could never get it to be installed I just want a stable distro for doing my radio and audio.
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05:50<K1dX>would it be wise to install the hybird iso?
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05:58<narcan>K1dX: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual
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06:00<K1dX>so much to read
06:00<K1dX>just to install a distro
06:00<K1dX>wonder why linus complains lmao
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06:02<narcan>K1dX: we can't help you if you don't RTFM
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06:03<narcan>you can find some quick tutorial on internet if you want
06:04<narcan>but you should read a book about that or the manual in the futur
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06:05<narcan>how drive a car without learning?
06:05<narcan>Its the same thing for Debian
06:07<K1dX>I learned to drive by hands on
06:07<K1dX>no joke my dad sat me on his lap
06:07<K1dX>and my grandfather
06:08<narcan>K1dX: https://wiki.debian.org/LennyIllustratedInstall
06:08<K1dX>so yeah i am not lieing there
06:08<EmleyMoor>I am running spamassassin, but spamd seems to die fairly often... filling my exim paniclog. How can I find out why?
06:08<K1dX>i guess i gotta do it hands on
06:08<K1dX>so fare like linus we have tried so many times but not sucessfull
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06:15<narcan>EmleyMoor: you haven't any spamd log?
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06:18<EmleyMoor>narcan: Nothing at all logged anywhere near the relevant time.
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06:23<narcan>EmleyMoor: /var/log/syslog also?
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06:23<EmleyMoor>Not "also" but "only".
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06:27<narcan>and when you restart the service what it says?
06:27<EmleyMoor>Basically, it (without confirming anywhere other than logs) starts normally.
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06:51<narcan>EmleyMoor: you "should" found the issue into syslog
06:51<narcan>I can't help you anymore :(
06:51<EmleyMoor>narcan: "should" but don't... nothing from spamd logged *at all*, anywhere near the relevant time.
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08:12<EmleyMoor>BTW, if spamd goes down, it's always around 06:00
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08:58<david_>I have had to get rid of Linux Mint 17 Cinnamon 64bit as it just flat out refused to install so I have ,moved to Debian 8 Jessie 64bit and I don't think that I will move to any other Distro for a long time if I have to I will have to format the hard drive after merging all partitions
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08:59<david_>only problem was finding the stuff that I wanted but after a wile I seem to have everything that I need.
09:00<jmlongo>welcome david_ :)
09:00<david_>is Todor Videv here
09:00<jmlongo>can't say ...
09:02<david_>I would have thought that Todor Videv would have used Debian as his choise of Linux
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09:18<kidx>hello
09:18<kidx>I got debian hybird xfce working
09:18<kidx>but why is my name not in the sudoers list? also how do update my drivers for steam?
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09:23<grove>kidx: The debian default for sudo is that only root and members of the sudo group can use it for anything, that's a sane default
09:24<kidx>yea but sudo not working
09:24<kidx>so i cant use sudo
09:24<kidx>also i cant install steam
09:24<kidx>or my grpahic drivers?
09:25<markybob>kidx, su - to become root. then visudo
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09:25<kidx>ok you might have to help me
09:25<markybob>kidx, i just did
09:25<kidx>casue installing steam it asking for root password
09:26<kidx>and visudo dont work
09:26<kidx>so thats outta the question
09:26<kidx>root in general is not what I want
09:26<kidx>I want sudo
09:26<kidx>so i can install steam
09:26<markybob>kidx, yes. you need the root password to do anything. including adding the user to sudoers. if you don't know root and you don't have sudo you'll install nothing
09:27<kidx>the issue is its telling my user is not in that group
09:27<markybob>kidx, ask the admin for help
09:27<kidx>when it is
09:27<kidx>i know
09:27<markybob>kidx, if you know then you know we can't help you.
09:28<kidx>but how can I install anything if my user is not in a group or it keeps saying it is not when i added it?
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09:28<markybob>kidx, how did you add it without knowing the root password?
09:28<kidx>seems liek your not understanding me
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09:28<kidx>how do i know its not added well try to acess sudo
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09:28<markybob>kidx, you need to run visudo as root to add your regularly user to sudo
09:28<kidx>sudo apt-get install gedit
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09:29<kidx>then i am prompt with enter your password
09:29<kidx>i enter it
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09:29<grove>If you just want to be able to do everything as root (giving your password), add your ordinary user to the sudo group with 'adduser <user> sudo' as root, and log out and back in
09:29<markybob>kidx, right, because it's not in sudo yet. so log in as root with "su -" like i said. then run visudo
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09:30<kidx>User_Alias sudo = kidx
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09:30<markybob>no dude
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09:30<kidx>i am added
09:31<markybob>if you can't follow instructions i give up
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09:31<kidx>lmao
09:31<kidx>your funny
09:31<kidx>i am clearly added
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09:31<kidx>i just did visudo and shows me added
09:31<kidx>so before saying i am not following instructions read
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09:32<EmleyMoor>Have you logged out and in again/
09:32<kidx>oh no
09:32<kidx>let me try that
09:32<kidx>good point
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09:34<kidx>works now
09:34<kidx>thanks guys
09:34<kidx>this distro is amazing
09:34<kidx>very fast
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09:35<kidx>now on to my drivers
09:35<kidx>any way to update my video drivers
09:36<EmleyMoor>What kind are they?
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09:39<kidx>nvidia 340
09:39<kidx>i need nvidia 340 drivers
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09:39<kidx>swrast
09:39<kidx> driver
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09:52<sothsch>good morning
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09:53<kidx>cant install my drivers
09:54<kidx>any idea or way to install my nvidia 340 drivers
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09:57<musca>hello kidx
09:58<kidx>hello
09:59<musca>debian has nvidia-driver 340.xx packaged in its non-free archive
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09:59<musca>!nvidia dkms
09:59<dpkg>For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
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10:00<musca>kidx: the binary installer from the nvidia website is not supported here.
10:01<kidx>how do i get steam to work?
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10:01<kidx>I just wanna game
10:01<kidx>is there a way to install drivers or update them?
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10:02<musca>yes ... m(
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10:11<jesusch>can anybody explain me, why dpkg thinks the package has unmet deps? https://goo.gl/5c7yKC
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10:16<blast007>jesusch: where are you getting that MySQL package from? 5.7 isn't in Debian.
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10:18<jamjam>hi
10:19<jamjam>which debian iso contains gnome ?
10:20<jamjam>I installed jessy iso cd 1 and although I had desktop environment checked debian boots to command line
10:23<blast007>jamjam: it might just be failing to start X
10:23<jamjam>I tried startx
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10:24<jamjam>it remains in command line but with a mouse
10:24<amacater>Use tasksel and install Debian desktop environment and check gnome as well
10:25<jamjam>I have the iso on usb
10:25<blast007>jamjam: did it give you any output when you ran startx?
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10:26<jamjam>yes, it sain something like xsession does not exist
10:26<jamjam>*said
10:26<da2>Hi, I need some help making a simple udev rule executing when I plug a VGA monitor. I'm going crazy after hours turning around the problem. The way I do it : http://pastebin.com/QiX2gxuG
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10:27<jamjam>amacater: I tried that with the usb attached it does nothing
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10:28<blast007>jamjam: does this show you a line starting with 'i task-gnome-desktop'? aptitude search ~i~ntask-gnome-desktop
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10:30<jamjam>it just appears for a split second after startx, then the font changes and I get a mouse
10:30<jamjam>I couldnt read the whole thing
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10:31<jamjam>I think startx runs an environment called xorg or something
10:32<jamjam>I am only using cd iso on a usb, without any net connection during install
10:32<blast007>jamjam: are you able to run the command I mentioned?
10:33<amacater>OK - if you've only got the CD, you might not have enough - any chance of using a DVD
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10:33<jamjam>amacater: that is what I want to figure
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10:34<jamjam>why does debian cd say desktop environment while not having one?
10:34<blast007>jamjam: please, run the command I mentioned...
10:34<blast007>aptitude search ~i~ntask-gnome-desktop
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10:36<blast007>or just: aptitude search ~i~ngnome (to see all installed packages with the word 'gnome' in them)
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10:37<jamjam>blast007: I have to check that later as I'm away from it now
10:38<jamjam>blast007: are you positive cd1 should install gnome?
10:38<blast007>k, then just run the 'aptitude search ~i~ngnome' command at that time. You should see a regular 'gnome' package as well as some others.
10:41<blast007>I rarely install desktop environments, and I always have net access during the install, so I'm not sure.
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10:42<blast007>there are a number of Gnome packages on CD1 though, including 'gnome-shell'
10:43<da2>I use netinstall and I just have to select "gnome" at installation
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10:43<blast007>jamjam: You'll want to look through 'dmesg' and the xorg log file to see if it's complaining about anything. You might just be missing firmware for your GPU.
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10:44<jamjam>will do that and check
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10:45<jamjam>also, is there a way not to install graphics or office programs along with gnome?
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10:49<blast007>jamjam: by not installing the 'gnome' metapackage, and instead installing something like the gnome-core metapackage
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10:50<jamjam>can that be done during installer run?
10:51<blast007>I don't know.
10:51<jamjam>I couldnt see any option to pick individual packages even with expert install
10:52<blast007>you might be able to drop to a shell at some point, or just skip installing a desktop environment during the install and do it afterwards
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10:54<jamjam>I wonder if the graphical installer could include these options to make it more managable for new users, I am one
10:55<jamjam>blast007: I will try this as well
10:55<blast007>looks like parts of gnome, as well as libreoffice, are on CD2, so maybe CD1 isn't enough if you want an offline install of Gnome
10:55<blast007>DVD1 is going to be a better option if you have no network access during the install
10:56<amacater>DVD1 is always good for this
10:56<amacater>since it includes CD 1-4
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10:59<jamjam>this wasnt mentioned on the site, hence the confusion
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11:04<da2>I need some help making a simple udev rule executing when I plug a VGA monitor. I'm going crazy after hours turning around the problem. The way I do it : http://pastebin.com/QiX2gxuG
11:04<scootergrisen>Are there a program for Debian GNOME so i can switch CPU throttleing?
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11:05<scootergrisen>A GUI so i dont have to use commandline
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11:15<Brigo>da2, i think the problem is the Xorg authority, try instead writing a file, for example: RUN+="/usr/bin/touch /home/your-user/itworks.tmp"
11:16<lindi-_>da2: also running xmessage as root and having it connect to your display sounds like a potential security issue
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11:22<bremner>someone was asking about editing pdf metadata. This gui tool seems to work: https://github.com/Glutanimate/PDFMtEd ; it's just a wrapper for some tools already in Debian
11:23<da2>Brigo, It works! (.tmp). So I will go back trying to execute my bash script (xmessage was just for debugging)
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11:28<blast007>jamjam: just tried here, and without access to network mirrors, CD1 does not install Gnome
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11:30<jamjam>blast007: thats so helpful, thanks a lot for that!
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11:30<jamjam>I would suggest users should be informed of that on the debian website
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11:34<da2>Brigo, I changed the rule, now my xrandr script is executed when (un)pluging VGA monitor : KERNEL=="card0", SUBSYSTEM=="drm", ENV{DISPLAY}=":0", ENV{XAUTHORITY}="/home/myusername/.Xauthority", RUN+="/bin/bash /path/to/my/bash/script"
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11:35<da2>I also noticed the rule file must finish with empty line, or the "udevadm test" while throw a strange error
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11:37<prectOS>Hey
11:37<prectOS>since the last time i installed the linux image for a 64bit kernel
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11:37<prectOS>Grub always boots using the 64 arch, how can i make the 32bits default?
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11:38<jelly>prectOS: why would you want to do that?
11:38<prectOS>Cause i dont want 64bits
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11:38<jelly>prectOS: does it not work?
11:38<prectOS>I just use it to run 64bits apps
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11:38<jelly>prectOS: it run 32bit apps without changes, too
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11:38<prectOS>I need the 32bits kernel, how to set it to default
11:39<jelly>prectOS: let's put it this way: what fails with the 64bit kernel?
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11:40<prectOS>Emm memory allocation maybe?
11:40<jelly>what do you mean "maybe"
11:40<jelly>does anything break, or not?
11:41<prectOS>Cause your asking me a question instead of answering another
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11:41<prectOS>Its doesnt feel comfortable, i am used to 32
11:41<jelly>prectOS: you can change GRUB_DEFAULT= in /etc/default/grub to pick a different menu entry, run "update-grub" after. I'm just curious what breaks, -amd64 kernel should be completely compatible.
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11:41<jelly>prectOS: I've been running 32bit userspace with amd64 kernel for years. Maybe before 2010.
11:42<prectOS>Why would i use 64?
11:42<prectOS>and my ram isnt over 1gb
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11:42<jelly>because it works
11:42<prectOS>32 works either
11:42<jelly>and because you can run both your 32bit and your 64bit stuff
11:43<prectOS>Are u sure all the apps are cross compatible
11:44<jelly>I haven't seen anything break since virtualbox back when they were their own company
11:44<jelly>that fact you booted means stuff works, the system you booted is still 99% 32bit
11:45<prectOS>I dont have to compile my applciations to 64 bits and then people with 32bit os's wont have the backward compatibility
11:45<scootergrisen>How do i start Apache automatically on each boot?
11:45<prectOS>Am used to 32
11:45<jelly>scootergrisen: it ought to start that way by default on a regular debian installation
11:46<scootergrisen>Well it doesnt
11:46<jelly>scootergrisen: which debian release are you using?
11:47<scootergrisen>3.16.0-4-amd64
11:48<prectOS>There are many menues in the grtub loader menu
11:48<blast007>scootergrisen: that's the kernel version, not the debian version. Which version of Debian are you running?
11:48<prectOS>The 32bit arch is in the advanced booting options for debian
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11:48<scootergrisen>Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie) 64-bit
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11:52<jelly>prectOS: previously, you'd look at the menuentry entries in the generated /boot/grub/grub.cfg, count starting from 0 and pick the one you want. I don't know how this works when there are submenus.
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11:53<CaBa>hi
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11:53<CaBa>is there any way to make ls indicate whether a file has metadata (xattr) attached to it or not? for ACLs it shows a '+' sign, but that doesn't seem to be the case for other metadata
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12:00<jamjam>blast007: do you know if other cd images have the same issue like debian-kvm-cd1 and other desktop images? do they also fail to install the said desktop environment?
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12:09<amacater>I know that the KDE one should work - as should the LXDE one - LXDE is small - but I can't guarantee it.
12:10<amacater>Most people use a netinst - and then pull down whatever is needed from the Internet or use DVD 1
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12:11<jamjam>amacater: that is cool enough for me as long as there is some kind of desktop
12:11<jamjam>do you know why debian prefers gnome?
12:12<da2>My udev rule runs a bash script in it I wrote "echo $USER>/a/file" and the file i empty. What does it mean? I think I need the script to be executed by the normal user account, is it possible?
12:12<da2>i*=is
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12:15<da2>The reason is I have to refresh pcmanfm (pcmanfm --desktop-off && pcmanfm --desktop ...) and the "desktop-off" seems not working cause it is run as root.
12:15<amacater>They don't - there isn't a preferred desktop as such but one has to be selected to install a GUI. A lot of people suggest LXDE for a very lightweight desktop for an old/slow machine, for example
12:15<da2>And probably running pcmanfm --desktop as root is a bad idea
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12:16<amacater>If you install Cinnamon, Gnome, KDE for example - Cinnamon is selected first - alphabetical order, perhaps
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12:54<da2>I finally have my udev rule + bash script working \o/ If someone wants to have a look and say if my script is safe to be run from an udev rule (with root privileges), it would be nice (I'm also noob in bash) : http://pastebin.com/Sdhxcc6h
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12:59<danielsh>da2, you might want to check that xrandr is installed.
12:59<danielsh>da2, string comparison in shell is tricky... but if $LIVE is either 0 or 1 then what you have will suffice.
13:01<da2>danielsh, thanks. $LIVE is 1 or 0 yes. I don't check for xrandr cause it is only for one computer actually.
13:02<da2>danielsh, But maybe I will post the script somewhere, so it can be usefull for someone (using LXDE for my case), and then I'll add the check.
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13:05<da2>Now I have to check if the screen is activated after reboot. And ventually manage xinitrc
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13:16<josiane>There is no lang package for Scite?
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13:19<da2>it seems I have to install manually lang package from there http://www.scintilla.org/SciTETranslation.html
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13:55<pootsmk>I just updated from wheezy to jessie and the networking broke. Basically, network-manager shows me as connected, I can ping the router, but when I try to ping other hosts like google.com I get "destination host unreachable" (although it is able to do the DNS lookup) ... what should I do to figure out how to get networking going again?
13:56<petn-randall>pootsmk: Do you have traceroute or mtr installed?
13:56<pootsmk>petn-randall, yes, traceroute is installed
13:57<petn-randall>pootsmk: What happens if you run 'traceroute 8.8.8.8'?
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13:58<pootsmk>When I try running traceroute google.com I get: 1 debian (168.23.33.2) 2996.486ms !H 2995.432ms !H 2992.107ms !H
14:00<pootsmk>petn-randall, Sorry - I meant traceroute 8.8.8.8
14:00<pootsmk>(same thing happens for Google.com though, actually)
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14:01<petn-randall>pootsmk: Can you show the complete output? → http://paste.debian.net
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14:03<pootsmk>petn-randall, , I can't pastebin from it because no connection but the complete output is just that line I just shared and the one before it ("traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets")
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14:04<petn-randall>pootsmk: I see. What is the output of 'route -n'?
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14:04<petn-randall>As root. Do you have a default route?
14:04<petn-randall>Destination 0.0.0.0
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14:07<pootsmk>petn-randall, There are two listed for 0.0.0.0, one for eth0 and one for wlan0 ... I am trying to use wlan0. The output for that one is Destination: 0.0.0.0 Gateway 192.168.0.1 Genmask: 0.0.0.0 Flags UG Metric 1024 Ref 0 Use 0 Iface wlan0
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14:07<pootsmk>there are several more lines in that one though - I could get a USB stick and copy/paste to pastebin it from here if you want
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14:07<petn-randall>pootsmk: The upper one is used, but from the looks of it your gateway isn't letting anything through.
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14:09<pootsmk>petn-randall, There are two other laptops that are connecting to the Internet through that gateway right now, so I'm not sure why it would just be dropping packets from this host ...
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14:12<pootsmk>I'm gonna look through the dpkg logs more carefully to see if maybe there was some kind of error when installing a networking package...
14:13<blast007>pootsmk: try power cycling the router
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14:15<blast007>pootsmk: (I've had issues with some cheap home routers before where everyone else was fine, but I couldn't even get an IP - slightly different issue here, but still worth trying)
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14:16<pootsmk>blast007, OK, if you think that will help, I will try it. But I'm connected through two other hosts to it right now, and I am able to get an IP ...
14:16<pootsmk>I'll be back in a minute (this is going to kill my connection
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14:27<pootsmk>blast007, Power cycling didn't change anything.
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14:28<blast007>k, figured we could at least get the easy test out of the way :)
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15:19<MrStein>Not strictly debian (more general unix shell), but : is the result of this command deterministic? cmd: cmp  <(echo echo1)  <(echo echo2)
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16:07<General>hello everybody
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18:01<hubeldo>to whom can i ask a few short questions?
18:02<mtn>!ask
18:02<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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18:10<mtn>hubeldo: please ask your questions here in the channel. it is considered rude to pm someone without permission
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18:11<hubeldo>hi, im wondering how secure my jessie servers are but im not skilled. theyre runing 24/7, have latest patches via get update get upgrade. its a minimal installation with ssh - only user login with ssh+ strong passphrase, no root-login
18:12<mtn>hubeldo: are you behind a firewall?
18:13<hubeldo>dedicated servers i didnt configured some firewall
18:13<orthogonal>hubeldo: Pretty secure. You might want to disable ssh on the internet if you're only going to access it locally
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18:13<mtn>hubeldo: not behind a router, either?
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18:14<hubeldo>broadly eyposed static ip
18:14<mtn>hubeldo: well, no firewall leaves you open to many attacks
18:14<hubeldo>i think there are plenty opf routers
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18:15<hubeldo>ok so my systems are probably overtaken?
18:16<orthogonal>No
18:16<mtn>hubeldo: probably not, but you really should be behind a firewall
18:16<hubeldo>ok good thanks (:
18:17<hubeldo>got a bad feeling after mionth running bur never configured a firewall#
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18:17<orthogonal>Is there a reason that you have a bad feeling? Does anything appear strange?
18:18<hubeldo>no, just guess its kinda "open" out there
18:18<markybob>hubeldo, you should be running something like fail2ban. and no root ssh access. key only ssh access, etc
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18:19<hubeldo>even after month i should run fail2ban? humm
18:19<markybob>hubeldo, yes. you should always run fail2ban
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18:20<hubeldo>ok ill read some about it & ask here if needed
18:21<markybob>hubeldo, you can also use 2fa with ssh. that's pretty great when you don't have keys on a random box.
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18:25<hubeldo>via mobilefone shortmessage?
18:25<markybob>hubeldo, or google authenticator app
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18:26<markybob>hubeldo, even gives you backup codes if you don't have a phone
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18:27<markybob>hubeldo, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-protect-ssh-with-two-factor-authentication
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18:27<hubeldo>humm well fail to ban hopefully wont influence my system... is it really necessary= i never used/installed/configed it plus im unskilled so it will harm my running server
18:28<markybob>hubeldo, yes. and there's really no configuring needed. default is fine.
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18:29<hubeldo>well so i put the scr into sources list and than update&upgrade right
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18:30<markybob>hubeldo, src? no.
18:30<markybob>,v fail2ban
18:30<judd>Package: fail2ban on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 0.8.4-3+squeeze2; squeeze: 0.8.4-3+squeeze2; squeeze-security-lts: 0.8.4-3+squeeze3; squeeze-backports: 0.8.6-3wheezy1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.8.6-3wheezy3; wheezy-security: 0.8.6-3wheezy3; jessie: 0.8.13-1; stretch: 0.9.3-1; sid: 0.9.3-1
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18:30<Hennessy>o.o
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18:34<hubeldo>thanks for helping that far
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20:18<Notfound404>world
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20:20<dpkg>Test failed.
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21:48<iexploit>hello all
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23:43<twb>"dgit clone gtk+2.0" doesn't work, but "dgit clone mg" does. gtk+3.0 is also busted. What am I doing wrong?
23:43<twb>(I suspect it doesn't like the +)
23:44<twb>It's the right source name, tho: https://packages.debian.org/source/sid/gtk+2.0
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