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---Logopened Fri Jan 01 00:00:45 2016
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00:10<polaris>Hello everybody. I've just installed Debian 8 Jessie and GNOME 3 and I have some issues with my video card. If I install fglrx drivers when I reboot I get a black screen
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00:14<rww>Jessie release notes: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#gnome-fglrx
00:14<rww>gotta love fglrx :\
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00:19<polaris>Thanks for answering. Found this web page http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/222000/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-15-7-fglrx-15-20-1046-on-debian-8-jessie Do you think it could work?
00:22<rww>I've encountered major issues with that process (grabbing fglrx/catalyst from AMD's website). I'd stick to fglrx in the repositories, or if that doesn't work radeon
00:22<rww>I think fglrx/catalyst from AMD's website is also not supported here, not 100% sure though
00:22<rww>!fglrx
00:22<dpkg>fglrx / AMD Catalyst is the proprietary display driver for AMD Radeon R9 200 series, Radeon R7 200 series, Radeon HD 8000/7000/6000/5000 and FirePro graphic processing units. To install fglrx, see https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary or ask me about <fglrx dkms>. This driver is incompatible with the GNOME desktop of Debian 8 "Jessie" due to lack of EGL support (ref. §5.11 <jessie release notes>), use the <radeon> driver instead.
00:22<rww>hrm
00:22*rww shrugs
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00:26<polaris>So do you think it's better to change my desktop environment?
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00:27<polaris>fglrx-driver from the repositories doesn't work
00:30<rww>if i were you, i'd either figure out your radeon issues with blinking that you mentioned on freenode.#debian, or use KDE or something
00:30<rww>but I use radeon and KDE so I'm biased :\
00:30<polaris>thanks for answering rww
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00:47<Obelio>rww: what is your hardware memory and cpu, and how well does KDE run on your computer?
00:47<rww>Obelio: Radeon HD 7870, 16GB of memory (4GB until recently), i5-6500 3.20GHz (C2 Q6600 until recently)
00:48<rww>KDE runs fine.
00:48<rww>both 4 and 5
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00:49<polaris>rww: I have 4 GB of RAM and a Intel Core i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz Do u think KDE will run well?
00:49<rww>polaris: depends on graphics card drivers, usually
00:51<polaris>rww: Thanks, I will try KDE and install fglrx drivers.
00:51<Obelio>rww: It sucks that GNOME3 does not work with Radeon, will it be fixed in a forseeable future?
00:52<Obelio>rww: I really like GNOME3, with Nvidia
00:52<rww>it should work with radeon, just not fglrx
00:52<polpiem>any body knows how to help me get a free vpn please
00:53<rww>i don't know the history/future of it, as I don't use GNOME 3.
00:53<rww>or fglrx :\
00:53<rww>just happened to know they don't work together
00:53<Obelio>rww: ok you are right, thanks
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00:59<polaris>rww: When u talk about radeon drivers you mean this package xserver-xorg-video-radeon?
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00:59<rww>yes
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01:25<xvm>what is the current url for squeeze backports
01:25<xvm>i dont see the section in ftp.debain.org/debain dir's
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01:41<rww>http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/
01:47<urzo>Hey, does anybody know whether the unicode missing-glyph box shows the codepoint in row-column or column-row order?
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01:47<urzo>in gnome-terminal
01:47<urzo>there's probably some defacto standard for this right?
01:47<urzo>or maybe even published offiical standard
01:48<urzo>all I know is i see numbers in a box
01:49<rucky>do the numbers have colors?
01:50<rucky><-- likes colors
01:50<urzo>nope
01:50<rucky>drat
01:51<urzo>i'm in the process of hand-decoding the utf8 which is a major drag
01:51<rucky>if they had colors i would have been interested
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01:51<rucky>why pick that wheel to re-invent?
01:51<urzo>hm, gues i ould paste them into a haskell string and then echo the ord values
01:51<rucky>next you could make a list of all known prime numbers in binary
01:52<rucky>or google utf8 chart
01:52<rucky>:p
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01:53<rucky>you should hand-decode ansi
01:53<rucky>*it has colors*
01:54<rucky>much more interesting as far as codes go
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01:54<urzo>i don't think you understand my question, like, at all
01:54<rucky>^[[2J
01:54<rucky>of course not
01:54<rucky>1. i came in after you asked it
01:54<urzo>my font doesn't render the charater
01:54<rucky>2. i am only half paying attention
01:54<urzo>[02:00] <urzo> Hey, does anybody know whether the unicode missing-glyph box shows the codepoint in row-column or column-row order?
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01:55<rucky>nope..sorry
01:56<rucky>however that brings me back to half paying attention again
01:56*rucky blinks
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01:56<urzo>well, disovered the answer by experimenting, it lists the code point in column-row order, same as we read text, left to right, down, and left to right again
01:58<rucky>/google colored glyph box
01:58<rucky>u lost me at no colors
01:58<rucky>:p
01:59<rucky>remind me to take a beer outta the freezer in about 15 mins
01:59<rucky>for some reason the last one keeps breaking in there
01:59<rucky>:/
02:00<urzo>beer contains a toxic substance
02:00<rucky>I've been trying to write my first lkm for a couple days
02:01<rucky>the beer is mixing with the failure and letting me stop trying
02:02<rucky>dont worry.. i freeze the toxins out of it.
02:02<rucky>^^^ freezer.. *member
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03:10<IceNode>witam
03:11<IceNode>mógłby mi ktoś pomóc?
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03:43<bdog7>.np
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03:51<jelly>hi. Happy New Year! Is it worth filing a FTBFS (on rtorrent) that only happens with dpkg-buildpackage ... -j4, when doing a backport to jessie?
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04:46<NNick>Happy New Year everyone :)
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05:02<orthogonal>NNick:Happy New Year1
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06:26<hacker>sd
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06:26<Guest3286>Happy New Year
06:26<Guest3286>2016
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08:31<ritvars>hi all. I need help.... i cant install .deb package.
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08:32<Drahti>how did you tried?
08:34<ritvars>i tried instal in GUI way. But there is problem.... when you click install package from menu, there should dialog pop up for root pasword. But nothing pops up it just faills to install package
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08:34<ritvars>from termina i can install debs, but i need tu fix this gui thing
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08:35<ritvars>i have another PC with debian and there password dialog pops up when you install .deb
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08:36<bremner>ritvars: are you installing via apt, or downloading a .deb? and what is "this gui thing"?
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08:38<ritvars>right click on .deb package downloaded from web (in my case its MakeHuman-1.0.2_all.deb), in menu chosing install package.
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08:41<ritvars>it should ask my root pasword to install deb package. same dialog when you launch synaptic
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08:42<bremner>well, how often do you do this? I'm not sure it's worth investing a lot of time fixing.
08:43<bremner>generally downloading .debs manually is a bad idea
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08:43<bremner>makehuman is in testing/sid, perhaps !ssb helps
08:43<bremner>!ssb
08:43<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
08:43<bremner>but maybe that's too complicated, depends on you.
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08:47<ritvars>thanks. debian-backports will do the thing
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09:07<cesarnfo>lol
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09:07<cesarnfo>whats up !
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09:08<cesarnfo>som1ez up!?!
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09:12<cesarnfo>727 uh.u
09:13<cesarnfo>silent hill
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09:15<bremner>!off-topic
09:15<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
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09:50<Zupo>hi
09:50<Zupo>i'm on Debian Jessie – can't install dante-client
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09:51<Zupo>requires libsocksd0 (= 1.1.19.dfsg-3.1+b1), which in turn requires libc6 (> 2.21)
09:52<bremner>Zupo: what version of dante client are you trying to install?
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09:52<bremner>there is none in jessie, I notice...
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09:52<Zupo>bremner: 1.1.19.dfsg-3.1
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09:53<bremner>Zupo: it's unlikely to work directly. You could try !ssb
09:53<bremner>!ssb
09:53<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
09:53<Zupo>tried /jessie-backports
09:53<bremner>yeah, it's not there either. But you could try your own backport.
09:54<Zupo>!deb-src sid
09:54<dpkg>You can get apt to download source packages with a <deb-src> line in your <sources.list>. A suitable entry for the sid release is: "deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free". Remember to "apt-get update" after changing your sources.list.
09:54<bremner>#656096 looks a bit bad
09:54<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/656096 in dante-client (open, jessie, sid, stretch): «dante-client: socksify preloads libdl.so.2 from an incorrect path»; severity: grave; opened: 2012-01-16; last modified: 2015-04-28.
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10:21<drboon>hola o/
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10:21<drboon>happpy new year all \o/
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11:18<theonlycureforyou>Hello
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11:29<m0nk>hello?
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11:37<bremner>!ask
11:37<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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12:12<Guest3309>hey guys, happy new year to all
12:12<alexandros>happy new year
12:12<Guest3309>thanks
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12:14<Guest3309>i have accedently deleted my boot partition. i have created a new one and reinstalled grub. grub screen is showing up. but when i select kernel in grub menu i get prompt to initramfs console. with error message that the vg-root could not be found
12:15<Guest3309>i use debian jessie with luks partition
12:15<Brigo_>Guest3309, how do you reinstalled grub?
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12:16<Guest3309>chroot and then aptitude reinstall grub2-common grub-pc-bin grub-gfxpayload-lists grub-common
12:17<Brigo>Guest3309, not sure if this is enought. try update-grub
12:17<Guest3309>already done. same result
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12:18<mtn>need grub-install, too, right?
12:18<Guest3309>yes i have done that too
12:20<Guest3309>no broken links.
12:20<Guest3309>file initrd.img vmlinuz
12:20<Guest3309>initrd.img: gzip compressed data, last modified: Tue Dec 29 01:53:51 2015, from Unix
12:20<Guest3309>vmlinuz: symbolic link to boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64
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12:22<Guest3309>this is what i have done since yet:
12:22<Guest3309>cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 mylvm
12:22<Guest3309>lvmscandisk
12:22<Guest3309>/dev/mapper/mylvm [ 178,33 GiB] LVM physical volume
12:22<Guest3309>/dev/sda1 [ 243,00 MiB]
12:22<Guest3309>/dev/sda5 [ 178,33 GiB]
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12:23<Brigo>Guest3309, i think you have a problema about lvm support in initramfs
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12:23<Brigo>Guest3308, try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/26886/fixing-unbootable-installation-on-lvm-root-from-desktop-livecd
12:24<rescue_>sorry was kicked
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12:27<rescue_> update-initramfs -u
12:27<rescue_>update-initramfs: /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-amd64 has been altered.
12:27<rescue_>update-initramfs: Cannot update. Override with -t option
12:27<rescue_>should i override it?
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12:28<rescue_>command was executed in chroot enviroment
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12:32<rescue_>http://paste.debian.net/359081/
12:33<rescue_>so this is what i have done
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12:34<rescue_>Brigo, i will try your link
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12:42<drewv>Is there a RAM-backed psuedo device available for creating in-memory disks? I'm iteratively generating a disk image and I'd like to save the time of writing things to disk until the end, when I know the entire image is complete.
12:42<alexandros>hi there and happy new year
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12:43<drewv>happy new year :)
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12:45<alexandros>help me please with something, i have the iphone in the pc ,the mount is automatic i click with right open with terminal and i can't go i the root files. i see only the home. how i will see the root files ?
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12:48<bremner>drewv: can't you use a tmpfs /tmp?
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12:50<drewv>bremner: possibly! There's just so many of these filesystems for pseudo-disks that I didn't know where to start.
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12:57<bremner>drewv: I think man mount explains how to make a tmpfs partion
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13:48<frankyang>大家好
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14:06<Guest3315>Brigo> Guest3308, try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/26886/fixing-unbootable-installation-on-lvm-root-from-desktop-livecd
14:07<Guest3315>have tried that without effect
14:10<c3p0>Hey,how do I solve emergency mode after booting?Can anyone help
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14:33<Brigo>c3p0, solve emergency mode?
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15:07<Walex2>Brigo: that's windows "practictioner" terminology.
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15:09<c01d>hi there.sad to hear of Ian Murdock's passing. :-(
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15:32<c3p03>I am having problems with booting, I get sent to emergency mode and the red error message from "journalctl -xb" is "Failed at step EXEC spawning /bin/plymouth: No such file or directory" any help?
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15:34<c3p03>"systemctl default" gives the message "Hangup"
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15:58<f-rncne>hai, i got jessie running with some old hardware: an SiS video card, i found https://packages.debian.org/sid/xserver-xorg-video-sis for sid and wheezy as well, sould i use one of them tough e.g. backports? which one should i use?
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15:59<f-rncne>*trough
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16:00<bremner>it's not in sid afaict, so I don't know if it's really compatible with the reset of xorg in jessie.
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16:01<oldlaptop>some things that are not in sid will still show up on p.d.o, because of ports that are perennially behind the "current" state of sid (m68k is a common cause of this)
16:02<oldlaptop>and indeed that is the case here, if you look closely you'll see the only package linked is for m68k
16:02<bremner>see #732478
16:02<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/732478 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: xserver-xorg-video-sis -- ROM; unmaintained»; severity: normal; opened: 2013-12-15; last modified: 2014-01-16.
16:03<oldlaptop>probably not even any SiS hardware for that arch :P
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16:03<bremner>according to the mentioned bug, at some point they stopped building, and nobody fixed it
16:04<f-rncne>doh
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16:04<oldlaptop>your best hope is probably VESA mode, maybe a discrete video card
16:04<oldlaptop>(IIRC SiS were integrated chipsets? the only one I have is, anyhow)
16:04<f-rncne>vesa someow works, but not tose resolutions available in weezy
16:05<oldlaptop>A random $10 USD video card off ebay would perform better than the SiS one anyhow, most likely
16:05<oldlaptop>even in PCI
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16:07<f-rncne>jep, but pci cards are more expensive :) i'll have a look for alernatives, tx
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16:07-!-Yst is "Yst Dawson" on #php #ahmia #guardianproject #moocows #oftc #debian-offtopic #debian-next #tor #debian #
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16:10<oldlaptop>it doesn't need to be expensive
16:10<bremner>unless $10 is expensive ;)
16:10<oldlaptop>or particularly good
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16:11<oldlaptop>http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ATI-Rage-XL-8MB-8-MB-PCI-3D-VGA-Video-Graphics-Card-/251913535571?hash=item3aa7378053:g:KDIAAOSwa39UyFrh
16:11<oldlaptop>likely more powerful than the SiS hardware...
16:11<oldlaptop>http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATI-Radeon-7000-64MB-DDR-PCI-Video-Low-Profile-VGA-Graphics-64-bit-Video-Card-/141460712027?hash=item20efb72a5b:g:kaEAAOSw3ydV09z1 and that almost certainly is
16:12<oldlaptop>Ancient used junk, the kind of thing you'd dig out of a dumpster :)
16:13<oldlaptop>(and neither of those happen to be a particularly good deal)
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16:17<adriano>hellow gys
16:18<adriano>tem algum br ae?
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16:23<musca>hello adriano
16:23<musca>!pt
16:23<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
16:24<musca>perhaps theese channels are only on irc.freenode.net
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16:32<adriano>hellow
16:32<adriano>thanks
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16:37<blawiz>anyone getting warnings of vurnerable adobe flash, and ff wont play youtube?
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16:38<c01d>blawiz, yeah. use the html5 player in youtube
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16:39<c01d>do NOT use flash whenever possible
16:39<raspberrypi>I moved my debian install from x86 to armhf by copying /etc/ and /var/ I appaer to have messed up apt but everything else is working.
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16:40<blawiz>c01d, do i have to log in to change?
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16:40<c01d>blawiz, https://www.youtube.com/html5 (however, this is not debian.related)
16:40<c01d>blawiz, simply accept cookies and u r finde
16:41<c01d>-d
16:41<raspberrypi>Ought I do a fresh install, and this time copy only the parts of /var I need, and the /etc files by specific instance (not all of /etc)? I've ended up with some strange permissions, service directories in var being owned by the wrong group and so on. Reinstall easier than repair?
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16:41<blawiz>c01d, nice :]
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16:42<c01d>raspberrypi, I would reinstall in that case (but wait for other opinions, please)
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16:42<raspberrypi>thanks c01d
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16:44<jhutchins>raspberrypi: Second the reinstall, and be REAL conservative about what configs you transfer.
16:44<c01d>blawiz, raspberrypi: np
16:44<jhutchins>raspberrypi: The only things I'd copy from var are the mail spool and crontabs.
16:44<raspberrypi>jhutchins: all of /etc/ was too blunt, think shadow, passwd, and groups didn't like being copied
16:44<raspberrypi>jhutchins: and /var/www
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16:45<jhutchins>raspberrypi: Yeah, www is safe.
16:46<jhutchins>raspberrypi: You can use something like vigr and vipw to copy just the user accounts; you'd copy /home as well.
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16:48<raspberrypi>jhutchins: thanks. copy /home /root /var/www, mailspools and crontabs, and judiciously some service configs in /etc
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16:49<jhutchins>raspberrypi: In fact, you might want to snapshot /etc before you copy stuff over it, that way if you get an incompatible config you can recover easily.
16:50<raspberrypi>jhutchins: that makes sense, thanks
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17:02<blawiz>c01d, html5 doesnt seem to work as nicely on my comp :[
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17:06<c01d>blawiz, latest iceweasel?
17:06<blawiz>firefox
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17:08<c01d>blawiz, hm, okay.i have latest iceweasel and everything works fine. i have no idea for your case
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17:11<blawiz>ff says its up to date
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17:14<blawiz>oh maybe its dropbox downloading all the images and vids after holiday :>
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18:01<R4F_Debian>Hi All ! Happy and Healthy New Year for All of Debian Community all over the World ! Deep Knowledge and Practices on the Most Powerful and Ultra Stable OS all over the Universe - Debian is the Lord !
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18:04<Awal>R4F_Debian: +1
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18:05<R4F_Debian>Hi Awal ! Happy and Very Productive New Year for You and all Your Family ! Let us keep the Debian Faith Forever !
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18:07<dadis420>R4F_Debian, +2BILLION
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18:11<R4F_Debian>Hi dadis420, Great and Productive New Year for You too ! I feel Nice Every Time I navigate in this Marvellous UNIX like OS ! Debian is UNIX Old School !
18:12<dadis420>R4F_Debian, well the world will be open sourced and highly more free im super excited for this year
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18:17<R4F_Debian>In fact, dadis420, we start ahead Majority, Debian is Quite Experienced and Well Tested Open Source Software. I can't see any OS similar ! And, by the way, I've tested all BSD Systems, and the Main GNU/Linux Distros. Debian always takes the 1st Place !
18:17<R4F_Debian>And, surely, we will exchange lots os ideas and experiences with Debian Jessie here !
18:18<dadis420>That is glorious to hear R4F_Debian I hope you can leverage the power of open source Debian systems to create a utopia.
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18:30<R4F_Debian>I'm back, sorry dadis420, I was absent, a not so good New about a Friend of my Wife that died today because of a cancer
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18:33<R4F_Debian>But, as you said, dadis420, I will really get Deep Knowledge on Debian, My GNU/Linux Distro today and Forever ! I will focuse on more Specialized Studies and Practices on Debian Jessie and we will create this utopia all long the time, like Debian Veterans from the Past !
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18:37<dadis420>R4F_Debian, thank you we need more utopian militiamen!!!!!!!!
18:38-!-mode/#debian [+l 749] by debhelper
18:38<R4F_Debian>You will like my articles I write in Defense of this Marvellous Open Source Community, dadis420. If any one don't know or don't like (without clear reasons, of course) Debian, after reading my articles, they tend to give a choice for Debian, and will like it afterwards
18:38<R4F_Debian>Despite the fact I don't like Debian... I LOVE DEBIAN !
18:39<adb>! offtopic
18:39<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
18:39<R4F_Debian>HI adb, sorry ! And Thanks for Advice !
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19:02<alexandros>can anyone help me, i have 1 phone and i want to see the root files but i can't.the phone is closed and locked
19:02<bremner>alexandros: is this related to debian?
19:03<Hakan>yes
19:03<alexandros>yes
19:03<bremner>how so?
19:03<cra1g321>unlock the phone
19:04<cra1g321>if you cant do that then im guessing the phone isnt yours.....
19:04<Hakan>¿?
19:05<alexandros>i bought it from a little stor but i guess is stolen
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19:06<alexandros>with terminal i can see only the home files
19:07<alexandros>but i need the root files to delete the set up file
19:07<alexandros>i think
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19:07<bremner>alexandros: what kind of phone is it?
19:07<bremner>android? iphone? something else?
19:07<alexandros>5s ios 92.2
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19:08<bremner>so again, what does this have to do with debian?
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19:09<alexandros>i have debian and i wondering with debian if i can to do that
19:09<bremner>there must be much better places to get help with iphones
19:09<bremner>ok.
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19:09<R4F_Debian>bremner
19:11<alexandros>ok sorry , i didn't want to make your mood bud
19:11<R4F_Debian>HI alexandros
19:11<alexandros>hi
19:12<R4F_Debian>dadis420, do you know which PostgreSQL version comes with Debian Jessie 8.2 installation ?
19:12<R4F_Debian>9.4 ?
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19:13<bremner>judd: versions postgresql
19:13<judd>Package: postgresql on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 8.4.20-0squeeze1; squeeze: 8.4.21-0squeeze1; squeeze-security-lts: 8.4.22lts5-0+deb6u2; squeeze-backports: 9.1+134wheezy4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 9.1+134wheezy4; wheezy-backports: 9.4+165~bpo70+1; jessie: 9.4+165; sid: 9.4+171; stretch: 9.4+171
19:13<bremner>yes, 9.4
19:14<R4F_Debian>ok, thanks ! And Happy New Year for you with Strong Experiments and Development in Debian !
19:14<R4F_Debian>for you, bremner, and for you too judd !
19:15<dcosnet>happy new year!
19:15<dcosnet>Ian you will not be forgoten
19:16<R4F_Debian>Oh, Hi dcosnet, nice to know you here !
19:16<R4F_Debian>Ian Never will be forgotten !
19:17<dcosnet>hi
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19:17<dcosnet>http://dcos.net/pc/hardware/new-server/
19:17<dcosnet>24 virtual cores intel xeon, 32gb ram, 16x4tb
19:18<dcosnet>and of course its got debian on it with kvm virtual machines
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19:29<dcosnet>http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/201457528531?ul_noapp=true&chn=ps&lpid=82
19:29<dcosnet>id rather have the one i built
19:29<dcosnet>heh
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19:34<c3p0_>It's storming
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19:58<R4F_Debian>Bye all !
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20:23<Phoul>For kernel builds, has make-kpkg been deprecated in favor of make deb-pkg? Or is make-kpkg still preferred?
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20:28<Brigo>Phoul, i think make deb-pkg is the prefered system and then make-kpkg was deprecated, it has no sense any more.
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20:47<Phoul>Brigo: Thanks! Do you know if deb-pkg has any similar concept of targets like kpkg? make deb-pkg generates a lot of stuff by default.
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21:11<FuZi0N>Does Debian offer relro, fortify, pic/pie?
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21:21<t0rchic>Hello! I'm experiencing a problem trying to install Ophcrack. I get the error message that it cannot find the SSL libraries.
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21:22<love_lace>I run ./configure, all goes well until it checks for libssl
21:23<mju>try installing libssl-dev
21:24<love_lace>Installing
21:25<love_lace>Retried ./configure
21:25<love_lace>configure: error: ophcrack requires libexpat.
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21:28<mju>I guess libexpat1-dev will help.
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21:31<love_lace>checking for Qt4 version of qmake... configure: error:
21:31<love_lace> ophcrack requires Qt toolkit version 4.3 or later.
21:31<love_lace>Lol just one thing after another xD
21:34<love_lace>I disabled gui and it worked :3
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21:37<love_lace>Thanks for the help, mju_!
21:38<mju_>np
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21:40<kernelcorn>I'm seeing "info: validation failure <WWW.posT.Lt. A IN>: No DNSKEY record for key Lt. while building chain of trust" frequently in my Unbound log. Does anyone know how to fix this?
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22:51<anarcat>i don't understand why i talk to pulseaudio with mplayer -ao alsa
22:51<anarcat>same with mpd
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23:02<jpleau>anarcat: do you see something in the lines of "alsa plugin" in pavucontrol when you play something through alsa?
23:02<anarcat>i haven't checked
23:02<anarcat>but i found this https://wiki.debian.org/PulseAudio#Dynamically_enable.2Fdisable
23:02<anarcat>which i find ... puzzling
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23:04<anarcat>i am trying to debug a problem with glitches in audio playback
23:04<anarcat>i get skips and doubles
23:04<anarcat>trying to find the blame between PA and ALSA is near impossible if PA is basically forced on you
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23:06<jpleau>the way to disable the alsa -> pulse routing seems a little bit involved on debian, on some other distributions you can just remove their pulseaudio-alsa (or similar) package heh. Uninstalling pulseaudio here only removes two packages, not sure if that's a viable option to debug your problem
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23:07<anarcat>it turns out you need to rm /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf.d/pulse.conf...
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23:08<jpleau>they'll be pulled in again on upgrade :( i guess that's why the dpkg-divert was there (never used that before)
23:08<anarcat>i can't parse dpkg-divert statements
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23:12<anarcat>nice, and following those basically makes alsa completely silent
23:13<jpleau>alsamixer to the rescue! :D
23:13<anarcat>nope
23:14*anarcat headdesks
23:14<anarcat>jan 01 23:13:06 angela kernel: snd_hda_codec_conexant hdaudioC1D0: autoconfig for CX20582 (Pebble): line_outs=1 (0x1f/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) type:speaker
23:14<anarcat>jan 01 23:13:06 angela kernel: snd_hda_codec_conexant hdaudioC1D0: speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
23:14<anarcat>jan 01 23:13:06 angela kernel: snd_hda_codec_conexant hdaudioC1D0: hp_outs=1 (0x19/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
23:14<anarcat>wa
23:14<anarcat>wtf is this driver man
23:14<anarcat>speakers-out=0???
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23:16<anarcat>wow, it's the lineout that is off
23:16<anarcat>can't turn it back on
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23:19<guhan>hi
23:20<jpleau>anarcat: pressing m in alsamixer does nothing? sorry even since pulseaudio became a thing I forgot everything I knew about alsa :(
23:21<guhan>@jpleau can you share few tricks that are useful in xchat?
23:22<anarcat>geez wtf
23:22<anarcat>jpleau: no, mute doesn't work, it's weird!
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23:22<anarcat>the automute toggle works - if i flip it, the internal speakers go on
23:23<anarcat>but the externals don't
23:23<anarcat>rebooting fixed the problem and PA is gone now with the divert thing
23:23<anarcat>now checking if the audio shit is gone :)
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23:35<natanfelles>Hello
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