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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-01-08

---Logopened Fri Jan 08 00:00:18 2016
---Daychanged Fri Jan 08 2016
00:00<markybob>Meltro, it doesn't. it stores temp in /var/cache/apt/
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00:01<themill>Meltro: the permissions (modes) of /tmp are irrelevant to being able to execute things from there.
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00:04<Meltro>So is there a way to ensure anything created in a directory is non-executable? I'm looking at access control lists now
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00:05<markybob>Meltro, sure. 666
00:05<themill>markybob: no, that's very wrong.
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00:06<themill>Meltro: making the mount point noexec is the normal way of doing this, but these aren't mount points
00:10<Meltro>If I were to create a partition and mount /tmp to there, the normal way would work though, yes? (pending the dpkg fix you gave above)
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00:12<Meltro>It's not what I'd ultimately like, but I'm not short on disk space
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00:16<exoplanet>Hi which package do i need to install for `getfacl`?
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00:17<Meltro>exoplanet: acl
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00:22<Meltro>addendum: playing around, it would seem /run/shm is automatically created whether or not the entry is in fstab, but adding an entry seems to add mount options to it correctly
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00:56<Meltro>I seem to have what I need to get working, thanks
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01:29<sleser>hi i was using another gamepad and it created /dev/input/js0) is there a way to delete it
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01:30<quietone>Jessie lxc containers logs "getty@tty6.service has no holdoff time, scheduling restart." every 10 seconds
01:30<quietone>same for tty5
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01:33<levinster>quti
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01:50<exoplanet>thank you melmothX_
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05:02<ninja>Hi, why doesnot cgroups work in debian wheezy
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05:02<ninja>what are alternatives to setup per user cpu and memory limits in wheezy
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05:05<grove>At work we use cgroups on wheezy heavily, so it does work.
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05:07<peter1138>memory cgroup needs a kernel command line option to enable, i think
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05:08<peter1138>ninja, https://wiki.debian.org/LXC#Prepare_the_host < "Optional: Enable memory cgroup support ..."
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05:17<ninja>But i dont find /etc/init.d/cgred init script
05:17<ninja>is there any other way of starting this?
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05:32<peter1138>what is cgred?
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08:35<sveta>how do i report a request for new package if my computer does not have mail program/daemon set up properly?
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08:44<ifvoid>what's the recommended wya to install a runy gem in Debian?
08:45<ifvoid>I'd prefer any type of dpkg integration over local gem installations in /opt or /usr/local
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09:41<avalenn>ifvoid: there is no recommended way
09:41<avalenn>https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Ruby/RubyExtras/OnRubygems
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09:53<ifvoid>avalenn: bah...
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09:58<vortek_>my sound is not as loud as it was on win 10. howthis? alsa is maxed out also
09:58<vortek_>any ideass on how to get my sound louder?
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10:09<mattia>hi
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10:10<mattia>porcodio
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10:26<Hydronic>hey all.
10:26<Hydronic>i'm using cat to display contents of text files.
10:26<Hydronic>i'm wondering if there is a way to make the console pause when the file's too long
10:27<grove>Use less instead
10:27<Hydronic>nice!
10:27<Hydronic>thanks :)
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10:38<vortek>hello :) my debian system does not sound as loud as when win10 was loaded... alsa sound is at max. what can i do to get louder sound?
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10:40<tremon>it's possible pulseaudio is doing soltvol control. Try installing/running pavucontrol (assuming you're running pulse, of course)
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10:40<vortek>ok thanxs
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10:55<vortek>that wotked!
10:55<vortek>worked
10:55<vortek>thanxs man
10:55<vortek>:)
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11:02<vortek>tremon thanxs!
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11:28<Rojas>a
11:28<Rojas>daSDA
11:28<Rojas>EH+
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11:51<papamoose1>Anyone know if debootstrap can be passed a file with a list of packages, instead of a comma separated list via '--include=alpha,beta' ?
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12:03<zumbi>papamoose1: I do not think that's possible, but multistrap does it
12:05<papamoose1>never heard of multistrap... googling now.
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12:06<papamoose1>zumbi: ah, multistrap is exactly what i need. thanks.
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12:07<papamoose1>good thing I stopped by cause I was about to re-implement multistrap in shell. :P
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12:08<zumbi>heh.. no need to re-invent more wheels :P
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12:15<jonathanh>When I try to test a npm package, mocha seems to error out, claiming that it can't find a module
12:15<jonathanh>http://paste.debian.net/362402/
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12:17<jonathanh>Tried to reproduce that error manually by requiring the module in the REPL, but it works there
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12:20<jonathanh>But works when doing it as root
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12:49<vortek>is there a script in debian to harden or secure the os more?
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12:51<lindi->vortek: hmm, for server usage?
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12:55<blawiz>how can i get norwegian chars in the terminal?
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12:56<Brigo>blawiz, i think you have to configure the locales.
12:57<Brigo>blawiz, https://people.debian.org/~schultmc/locales.html
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13:00<blawiz>brian, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales doesnt seem to work
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13:00<Haku_>Hello everybody.
13:00<Haku_>I just finish to install debian in my computer.
13:00<Haku_>I have encrypt my hdd during the instalation.
13:00<Haku_>And now when the computer ask me to input the pass phrase, my keyboard isn't recognized
13:00<Haku_>what can I do ?
13:01<vortek>lindi- just to secure my box
13:01<lindi->vortek: yes but what type of box is it? desktop?
13:01<vortek>lindi-, yes
13:01<lindi->vortek: aha, that is quite hard
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13:02<lindi->vortek: is it a default gnome desktop or something more custom?
13:02<vortek>but there used to be a script that performed basic security stuff
13:02<vortek>default
13:03<lindi->vortek: ok, are you its only user?
13:03<vortek>yeap
13:03<Brigo>Haku_, try this: http://www.kasploosh.com/weblog/14000/14016-debian_jessie_usb_keyboard.html
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13:05<Haku_>Brigo, Thx I'm going to watch.
13:05<lindi->vortek: one way to increase security in such a setup would be to use separate users for different activities, like vortex for normal stuff, vortex-banking for banking and vortex-sudo for using sudo
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13:05<vortek>ok
13:05<vortek>:)
13:05<lindi->vortek: with fast user switching you can quite easily switch between those users
13:05<Brigo>Haku_, if you can manage anyhow to install plymouth, it could solve your problem too.
13:05<vortek>true :)
13:06<lindi->vortek: then you of course want to configure backups and automatic security updates
13:06<vortek>yeap
13:07<lindi->vortek: a simple "apt-get install ufw; ufw enable" is also a good basic firewall
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13:07<lindi->vortek: securing a desktop is quite hard since people use desktops in so many different ways
13:08<Haku_>Brigo, did you have an idea how can I do that
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13:08<vortek>i got firewall configed
13:08<vortek>i used some debian scriipt to configure iptables i think
13:08<vortek>true
13:09<lindi->vortek: did you forget ip6tables?
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13:09<lindi->vortek: IPv6 is enabled by default
13:09<vortek>yeah
13:09<vortek>the scipt coverd that
13:10<lindi->ok
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13:11<Haku_>Brigo, i'll rebbot now. I'll want to try something
13:11<Haku_>thx for you help
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13:15<vortek>cecksecurity does what i want ::))
13:15<vortek>well some of what i want :)
13:15<vortek>checksecurity
13:15<vortek>i searched synaptic fir security founds lots of good stuff :)
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13:16<vortek>tripwire :)
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13:20<vortek>apparmor
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13:20<vortek>im making this system secure!
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13:22<vortek>its gona be like trusted debian hehe
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13:50<ryouma>rebooting is really broken on my jessie box. it hangs after dnsmasq. then i have to ctrl alt del. then it continues until it says reached target shutdown. and then it does not reboot. it requires manually shutting down the computer and restarting. wheezy worked fine on the same box. i need to reboot frequently because my mice turn off. thanks for any help.
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14:08<prectOS>Azul
14:08<prectOS>So i want to remove an architecture from dpkg, cause i wont need it for now
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14:09<prectOS>I will just purge and use --remove-arch? this wont take off any packages from my other 64 os
14:09<prectOS>?
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14:11<ryouma>i am limited in ability to physically turn ont he computer so this is an issue. quite often, it also goes forever on trying to unmount things etc.
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14:46<vortek>hello
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14:47<vortek>i got a problem in jessie
14:47<bremner>what is the nature of your jessie related emergency?
14:48<vortek>its saying unable to locate a package when i dpkg -i package-name.deb
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14:48<vortek>and the package is in var /cache/apt/archives
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14:49<vortek>i dpkg -i packagename.deb and it says its not there
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14:49<bremner>did you give the full path?
14:49<vortek>and i used the tab completion to finish typing the name also
14:49<vortek>oh ill try that
14:49<vortek>one sec
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14:50<bremner>why dpkg and not apt, btw?
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14:50<vortek>becuase aptave install erprs g
14:50<vortek>i mean errprs
14:50<vortek>errors
14:50<bremner>ok, but maybe you should fix those errors...
14:50<vortek>thats what im trying to do
14:51<vortek>can ya help me?
14:51<vortek>:)
14:52<bremner>you could start by using paste.debian.net to report the actual errors
14:52<vortek>ok
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14:54<vortek>my www is slow
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14:54<vortek>so iit will take a sec
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14:55<vortek>hrm
14:56<vortek>my other web pages loaded but its hanging ... says waiting for paste.debian.net...
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14:58<bremner>loads pretty fast here.
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14:58<catt>Hi, hoping I can get some help today
14:58<vortek>its laodibg noq
14:58<vortek>http://paste.debian.net/362423/
14:58<ryouma>how does one debug jessie never rebooting?
14:59<catt>vortek: have you considered apt-get install nvidia-drivers?
14:59<catt>or grabbing the drivers from the nvidia site?
14:59<catt>and just running them ./nvidia-drivers.deb?
14:59<bremner>well, nvidia-driver
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14:59<bremner>installing directly is not reccomended by the channel wisdom
15:00<bremner>dunno, I just run nouveau
15:00<catt>ah
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15:00<catt>Yeah, I've got a few issues I need help with
15:00<catt>one being compton and input lag when using nvidia drivers
15:00<catt>There's info on the git, but I'm not sure what to do exactly
15:01<vortek>so what should i do?
15:01<catt>well, what are you trying to do?
15:01<catt>You want nvidia drivers, right?
15:01<vortek>yeah
15:01<catt>what's your GPU?
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15:01<vortek>nvidia 550 m
15:02<catt>I think you'd be fine with the repo drivers?
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15:02<towo`>would he?
15:02<towo`>550 m sounds like optimus
15:02<catt>Not sure
15:02<towo`>so simple installing nvidia-driver would not work
15:03<catt>I've got a 310m and nvidia-driver works for me
15:03<vortek>let me try
15:03<towo`>vortek, lspci | egrep -i "vga|3d|display"
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15:04<vortek>RecentChangesretruns nothing
15:05<vortek>reeturns nothing
15:05<towo`>impossible
15:05<towo`>then you would not have any graphics device
15:05<vortek>ill show you root@Gardian:/var/cache/apt/archives# lspci | grep -i "vga|3d|display"
15:05<vortek>root@Gardian:/var/cache/apt/archives#
15:05<vortek>woops
15:06<towo`>vortek, are you blind?
15:06<vortek>sorry bout paste
15:06<towo`>grep != egrep
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15:06<catt>wew
15:06<vortek>haha
15:06<towo`>if it is hard to read, use c&p
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15:08<catt>So
15:08<catt>There is a slight buzzing noise that comes out one of my laptop speakers (Sony VPCF130) sometimes when audio is muted
15:08<catt>Only when muted, I have alsa + pulseaudio, Debian 8.2
15:08<catt>Happens from stock, I didn't do anything
15:08<catt>Well
15:09<vortek>http://paste.debian.net/362429/
15:09<towo`>vortek, so its optimus
15:09<catt>https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
15:09<catt>https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/10/10/us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/340.65/README/supportedchips.html
15:09<catt>Your chip is on this list
15:09<towo`>vortek, so installing nvidia-driver will end up in black screen
15:09<vortek>ok
15:10<catt>oh wow really
15:10<towo`>catt, doesn't matter
15:10<catt>ok
15:10<towo`>vortek, can you disable the intel in your bios?
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15:16<vortek>i can try
15:16<vortek>dam pages loading still!
15:16<vortek>hah
15:17<vortek>thhis sh!ty wifi
15:17<vortek>ahh fixed it
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15:23<vortek>what the heck
15:24<catt>How come I never seem to get help for my audio issue
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15:31<nathan1>hello, I've upated from debian wheezy to jessie but now I have a problem running eclipse, in particular each time I close a window (eg: help->install new software->close) I get a SIGSEGV and the following error log http://paste.debian.net/362433 could please somebody help me?
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15:37<prectOS>Hey
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15:38<prectOS>am stuck getting an error "/sys/cdef.h" no such file or directory
15:38<prectOS>trying to compile using the gcc AVR tool chain
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15:41<seeS>anyone know how to make your mouse stop disappearing in Wayland/gnome?
15:41<seeS>makes it hard to click in chrome
15:41<prectOS>Disappears when typing?
15:42<seeS>no, it just disappears
15:42<prectOS>Randomly? or at defined rates?
15:42<seeS>the only way i can make it come back is switch to a gnome terminal
15:42<seeS>it always appears on that, and switches back
15:42<seeS>pretty much consistently
15:43<seeS>alt-tab gnome terminal click in it, alt-tab to chrome/smuxi/etc got mouse
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15:43<seeS>of course *now* its not going away, it will
15:44<seeS>there it goes, gone
15:44<prectOS>When it disappears u still can move it around?
15:44<seeS>oh yes, its like its there (links hover, buttons glow)
15:45<seeS>everything works exactly like there is a mouse, or cursor, except its not
15:45<vortek>how do you acess bookmarks iin iceweasel?
15:45<seeS>and if i go to the top bar it appears
15:46<prectOS>Ctrl + Shift + O
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15:46<seeS>vortek: there is an icon, looks like a list, or that set of keys prectOS said
15:46<prectOS>go to a console and type dconf write /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/cursor/active
15:46<prectOS>go to a console and type dconf write /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/cursor/active false
15:46<vortek>thabxs
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15:47<prectOS>Did ur mouse appear again?
15:47<seeS>it was back so give it a lil while
15:48<prectOS>try dconf write /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/cursor/active true
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15:48<seeS>it , oh it was until i started typing
15:49<prectOS>Do you have a touch screen?
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15:49<seeS>no
15:49<seeS>ok true is worse than false
15:49<prectOS>does it disappears when u use false?
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15:50<seeS>it disappears faster when false
15:50<seeS>oh... it disappears when its in the bottom cm or two of the screen
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15:52<seeS>ok so that false makes it better
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15:52<prectOS>Does this happen in other desktops?
15:53<seeS>you mean if i used kde or something?
15:53<prectOS>I use Cinnamon
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15:53<seeS>ah
15:54<seeS>not tried that
15:54<prectOS>Its pretty nice, except for the slow menu which u can u fix using an applet
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15:56<seeS>im finding wayland and gnome clunky, might try it later
15:56<seeS>i dont like how i can crash a system with a copy and paste
15:56<vortek>when i go to configure the nvidia driver it says x cant beloaded
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15:56<vortek>how do i close x ? and get yo command? with oout it rebooting?
15:57<prectOS>which desktop ur using
15:57<vortek>gnome
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15:58<vortek>no
15:58<vortek>cinamin
15:58<vortek>cinnamon
15:58<prectOS>In cinnamon u might press Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
15:58*seeS has nvidia on the laptop, alternates between "yay it works isnt this great" and "oh, why did i ever buy nvidia"
15:58<vortek>hehe
15:59<vortek>doesnt do anything
15:59<prectOS>lol sorry
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15:59<prectOS>go to console and type cinnamon --replace
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16:01<vortek>just refreshes screen
16:02<prectOS>To restart cinnamon from the shortcut, its Ctrl + Alt + Escape
16:02<prectOS>Whats ur problem
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16:05<vortek>hrmm
16:05<vortek>i cant quit x
16:05<vortek>how do i quit x
16:06<vortek>i cntrol alt f1 and get out of x and i kill x and it just restarts
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16:07<vortek>i need to completely exit x to config nvidia driver
16:07<vortek>hoow do i do this?
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16:07<prectOS>configure nvidia driver?
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16:08<catt>uh
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16:08<catt>go to init 2
16:08<catt>or 3
16:08<prectOS>Explain to me, cause am really confused
16:08<musca>systemctl stop display-manager.service
16:08<catt>or I think uhm
16:08<catt>well, my issue was that even without x, it still wouldn't install
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16:36<LsKoder2>Hi everyone. I have to install debian into a hackberry card. The pre-build image (debian) for this card is not available because the company failed
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16:36<LsKoder2>somebody can help me to install manually a armhf debian to this card using a microsd?
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17:19<d3rp>anyone know how to build depends from a .make file?
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17:31<yorman>hola
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18:45<Darael>Laptop. Debian Testing. UPower.conf ends with CriticalPowerAction=HybridSleep. On critical battery, what actually happens is the machine shuts down, even though org.freedesktop.login-1.Manager.CanHibernate and .CanHybridSleep both return 'yes'. What do?
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18:46<Darael>(Suspend, hibernate, and hybrid sleep have all been tested, both via systemctl and dbus calls to org.freedesktop.login-1.Manager method calls, and work just fine)
18:47<Darael>Welp, wrong channel. Sorry. That'll teach me to read the MOTD properly.
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19:23<ubuntu-studio>Sup geeks
19:26<blast007>!ubuntustudio
19:26<dpkg>Ubuntu Studio is a <Ubuntu> derivative oriented towards multimedia production. Not supported in #debian. http://ubuntustudio.org/ #ubuntustudio on irc.freenode.net. See <based on Debian>.
19:27<ubuntu-studio>Its not 1999 any more yall can come back to windows
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19:29<ubuntu-studio>Shut up
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19:29<themill>ubuntu-studio: do you have a Debian related support question we can help you with?
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19:34<R4F_Debian>Hi all
19:34<salad>hey
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19:35<R4F_Debian>Hi salad, how are you ?
19:35<salad>I'm alright
19:35<salad>you?
19:35<R4F_Debian>Great ! I'm fine, thanks, salad ! Nice to see you here !
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19:36<R4F_Debian>Some days ago, I asked about a software for Statistical Computing - 'R', but I forgot the link to get informations about this program for Debian. Hope anyone can help me with this information. Thanks for now !
19:37<themill>!r
19:37<dpkg>R is a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. To install: "aptitude -r install r-base". http://wiki.debian.org/R http://wiki.debian.org/DebianScience/R http://www.r-project.org/ #r on irc.freenode.net. And it's "are", not "r". See also <plotting>.
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19:40<R4F_Debian>yeah themill, if you need statistical calculus and predictions in your job, R is the way
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19:43<themill>I know
19:47<R4F_Debian>Bye salad, I must go now. Bye themill ! Hope see you soon here !
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19:47<salad>cya
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21:03<allure>someone please help me remember the name of that other command you could use to "burn" a ISO file to a flashdrive that was similar do "dd" ?
21:03<allure>even the name was similar
21:03<allure>it is dd something...
21:03<allure>ok, nvm
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21:28<Asdru>Hola
21:29<Asdru>:3 Hola?
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21:30<bremner>!es
21:30<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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21:37<ryouma>jessie does not reboot. it stops at "reached target shutdown" or similar.
21:37<ryouma>wheezy rebooted fine on the same hw
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21:39<vortek>hello
21:40<vortek>my system hangs at Setting up libgl1-nvidia-glx:amd64 (340.96-3) ...
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21:40<vortek>any ideas?
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21:51<R4F_Debian>Hi all, I've installed 'R' statistical software through help I was given here, and tried to look for its graphical user interface in the Debian Site. For my surprise, in the Section 'packages' subsection gnu-r, there is a lot of different packages
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21:52<R4F_Debian>Don't know exactly which package to install for using 'R' in graphical environment also. Hope anyone can help me on this. Since now, Thanks
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21:59<R4F_Debian>I've found here: r-cran-rcmdr
21:59<malcolm>Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone knew how I could write a script that deletes a string of text from a large batch of files. Can anyone point me to a good place to start? Is sed a good program?
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22:00<R4F_Debian>According a book about UNIX&Linux Certified Support, sed is better than vi, vim or emacs for the purpose you have in mind, malcolm
22:02<R4F_Debian>you will need an editor that works through non-interactive flux
22:03<R4F_Debian>vi and emacs won't help you in this case, but sed is precisely for this kind of task, malcolm
22:03<malcolm>R4F_Debian: Ok I will start with sed, thank you very much
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22:04<R4F_Debian>Unix&Linux - Charlie Russel and Sharon Crawford, page 268 - ' What is sed ? "
22:07<R4F_Debian>malcolm: have a look on this, perhaps it will be useful - http://www.cs.nyu.edu/~mohri/unix08/lect5.pdf
22:07<R4F_Debian>Good Luck !
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22:15<afh_>malcomlm: I'd use xargs with sed or perl
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22:45<leaveone>can anyone help me install or uninstall my nvidia-legacy drivers so i can use X windows
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