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00:22<R4F_Debian>Hi all
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00:23<R4F_Debian>recently I've installed 'R' programming language and statistical application, but I had to install extensions of its base. Which command I use to see in the terminal about programs already installed on my Debian Jessie 8.2 ?
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00:29<R4F_Debian>apt-cache show r couldn't help me
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00:31<R4F_Debian>dpkg -l | grep r couldn't help me also
00:31<dpkg>ii | grep r couldn't help me also 1.4-1.1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package
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00:44<R4F_Debian>Hi all, is there any specific r -base complementary package for r language applied to Neurosciences ?
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00:48<virgosun>hi all
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00:49<virgosun>my fstab error parsing
00:49<virgosun>dont know why
00:49<R4F_Debian>Hi virgosun
00:50<virgosun>hi R4F
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00:51<R4F_Debian>what's exactly happening on your fstab file ?
00:52<R4F_Debian>can't you edit on it ?
00:53<virgosun>http://pastebin.com/83m5gu7g
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00:53<virgosun> can only boot in emergebcy mood
00:54<virgosun>sorry for my Englis
00:54<virgosun>it said error parsing fstab line 1
00:54<virgosun>whatever edit dont work, i have to rm fstab
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00:56<virgosun>sorry . this is http://pastebin.com/DzGMapnM
00:57<R4F_Debian>what do you see whenever you type 'cat etc/fstab' ?
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00:58<jm_>that's everything it says? "error parsing fstab line 1"?
00:59<virgosun>I see the file content as this http://pastebin.com/DzGMapnM
00:59<virgosun>yes
01:00<virgosun>it say error 'parsing fstab line 1 unknow static filesystem'
01:00<virgosun>then 'fs-tab exit status 32'
01:00<R4F_Debian>try this: sudo blkid -c /dev/null
01:01<jm_>is this debian?
01:01<jm_>what does cat -v show?
01:02<jm_>(make sure you use coreutils cat)
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01:02<virgosun>here pls http://pastebin.com/VyLMVU6p
01:02<R4F_Debian>Are you sure your /etc/fstab has the # at the start of the first line? the error message kind of suggests it's trying to mount a device called '/etc/fstab'
01:02<virgosun>this happened after I edit fstab by LibreOFFICE
01:03<virgosun>but I have tried to create new fstab, not work
01:03<jm_>yeah don't do that it probably added crap to the file
01:03<R4F_Debian>is that possible editing fstab in libreoffice, instead of through vim or emacs, jm_ ?
01:03<stoned>wow. Why ?
01:04<jm_>R4F_Debian: maybe it is if one saves it in the right format, but I would discourage it
01:04<R4F_Debian>yes, I agree jm_
01:04<stoned>Why not just use nedit or something if you need a gui editor.
01:04<virgosun>I open thinar in root
01:04<virgosun>and double click it
01:04<virgosun>the LibreOfice auto open
01:04<stoned>That might be potentially unsafe.
01:05<jm_>what I would do in your place is this - boot with a rescue medium, mount your /, cd there/etc and do mv fstab fstab.lo; cat > fstab and then paste the contents from pastebin, end with ctrl-d, then try to boot
01:05<virgosun>yes
01:05<R4F_Debian>stoned is right, it's not secure doing it through libreoffice
01:05<virgosun>I have create new fstab with nano
01:06<virgosun>the conten as in pastebin but not work
01:06<stoned>can you pastebin the contents of /etc/fstab?
01:06<stoned>!pastebinit
01:06<dpkg>pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
01:06<R4F_Debian>what did you see when you type sudo mount -a ?
01:07<stoned>Oh nm.I see you already pasted it;
01:07<jm_>and what error you get now with fstab?
01:07<virgosun>mount: /etc/fstab: parse error: ignore entry at line 1.
01:08<R4F_Debian>sed '1!d' /etc/fstab | xxd
01:08<jm_>what does "/bin/cat -v /ets/fstab" show? make sure /bin/cat is coreutils version
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01:09<stoned>"/bin/cat -v /etc/fstab"
01:09<R4F_Debian>could you paste the result of sudo gedit /etc/fstab ?
01:10<R4F_Debian>paste the result of sudo gedit /etc/fstab and pass me the pastebin link, please
01:10<virgosun>this is sed '1|d' http://pastebin.com/w3SjnLVk
01:11<stoned>There are ... before # in the first line
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01:13<virgosun>this is gedit /etc/fstab http://pastebin.com/bwR5Dvxu
01:13<virgosun>yet
01:13<virgosun>stoned
01:13<virgosun>there are thee (3) dot
01:13<virgosun>...
01:13<kernelcorn>does anyone here have experience with libcurl? I'm trying unsuccessfully to send and receive over the telnet protocol. The connection is established, but it seems like nothing is sent.
01:14<kernelcorn>virgosun: how about four lights?
01:14<virgosun>but these ... not show up in gedit or nano
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01:15<stoned>virgosun: here
01:16<stoned>virgosun: backup your /etc/fstab somewhere, and then try "wget http://sprunge.us/LOOe -O /etc/fstab"
01:16<stoned>virgosun: do that as sudo/root and mount -a
01:16<virgosun>ok
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01:16<R4F_Debian>virgosun, try this command: sudo touch /forcefsck
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01:17<stoned>R4F_Debian: too many cooks. Let him try a cleaned up /etc/fstab that I prepared for him.
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01:18<stoned>And next time don't ever use openoffice or anythign silly like that to edit files. Dont' rely on gui file managers, and learn to use the command line.
01:18<stoned>s/edit files/edit system config files/
01:18<virgosun>it seems ok
01:18<jm_>or at least use normal GUI editors, i,e, gvim, emacs - there must be at least 10 more
01:18<virgosun>no error
01:18<kernelcorn>gedit is probably fine
01:19<stoned>virgosun: your drives are mounted now?
01:19<stoned>virgosun: check using 'mount' command
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01:19<stoned>That cleaned up fstab should work for you.
01:20<virgosun>it works
01:20<stoned>Now you learned your lesson
01:20<virgosun>thank you all
01:20<stoned>you're welcome
01:20<virgosun>and stoned and r4f
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01:21<stoned>using curl to send/recieve over telnet?
01:21<stoned>What the heck?
01:21<virgosun>great lession
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01:23<stoned>try not to use gui file managers.
01:23<virgosun>so stoned, this command detect wrong file right sed '1!d' /etc/fstab | xxd
01:23<stoned>No, it simply dumps a hex output of the file
01:23<stoned>man xxd
01:24<stoned>and sed is a stream editor, it replaces text on streams line by line
01:24<stoned>man sed
01:24<jm_>it helps you detect if there's crap in it, but use it without the sed part
01:24<virgosun>my system now mount all http://pastebin.com/fvcYfyaz
01:24<kernelcorn>yes, I'm trying to use libcurl to communicate over telnet. This is part of a larger application and I'm doing it for a reason.
01:25<stoned>kernelcorn: how are you establishing the connection?
01:25<virgosun>Ah libre added crab to its
01:25<stoned>kernelcorn: do you have any code to show or any commands yo'ure running?
01:25<kernelcorn>stoned: yes, one second
01:26<kernelcorn>stoned: here's the libcurl code: https://github.com/Jesse-V/libjson-rpc-cpp/blob/master/src/jsonrpccpp/client/connectors/socks5client.cpp#L66
01:26<stoned>private repo?
01:26<stoned>404.
01:27<kernelcorn>really?
01:27<jm_>WFM
01:27<virgosun>thanks jm_, I'll reboot and everything ok, back to my hackintosh stuff
01:27<stoned>O_o
01:27<stoned>hackintosh?
01:27<kernelcorn>stoned: it's public, should work fine
01:27<virgosun>yah stoned
01:28<stoned>kernelcorn: I'm logged in to github and I can only get 403
01:28<stoned>404 on that link
01:28<stoned>It must be a private repo
01:28<stoned>oh nm
01:28<kernelcorn>well, I just confirmed that it works fine on another browser where I am not logged in
01:28<jm_>the URL works for me and I don't even have an account on github
01:28<stoned>stupid weechat can't click two line links
01:28<stoned>it's fine.
01:28<stoned>hang on
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01:29<kernelcorn>stoned: the URL I pass in is telnet://ip:port
01:29<stoned>kernelcorn: your proxy config seems off to me.
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01:29<kernelcorn>how so?
01:30<stoned>kernelcorn: curl_setopt(curl, CURLOPT_PROXYTYPE, CURLPROXY_SOCKS5_HOSTNAME); You might need something like this
01:30<stoned>Try that
01:30<kernelcorn>socks5h is the same thing according to the documentation
01:30<kernelcorn>it's telnet over a SOCKS5 port
01:30<stoned>And also, if you're goig over telnet, you can't do logins you have to I think manually catch the login prompt string and send login info
01:31<kernelcorn>huh? I'm not doing any logins
01:31<stoned>kernelcorn: that's probably why you have an established connection but not sending anything
01:31<stoned>You have to login to the remote telnet system first
01:31<stoned>Unless I fail to understand everything completely.
01:32<kernelcorn>the remote telnet system needs no login. I'm simply running netcat on the remote host
01:32<stoned>I see
01:32<stoned>Well, I don't really even do cpp. Ask in a programming channel.
01:32<stoned>Or ask curl folks.
01:33<kernelcorn>there are many examples for FTP, HTTP, POP3, and so on, but no examples for telnet despite it being dead simple
01:33<stoned>https://github.com/bagder/curl/blob/master/lib/telnet.c might shed light on how curl implements telnet
01:33<stoned>*shrug*
01:34<kernelcorn>where would you suggest that I go to talk to Curl folks?
01:34<stoned>hmm
01:34<stoned>I would try their mailing list, or ##programming on irc, or maybe there is a #curl on freenode ?
01:34<stoned>Look around.
01:35<jm_>and if it's really netcat only why use telnet at all?
01:35<kernelcorn>jm_: yes, but Curl doesn't support raw TCP. It's as close as I can get.
01:35<jm_>kernelcorn: but why do you have to use curl?
01:36<kernelcorn>because it's the underlying transport in the libjson-rpc-cpp software for JSON-RPC
01:37<kernelcorn>and I'd like to use that library to replace my current reliance on Boost Asio, which is a ~100 MB dependency
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02:46<mrpine>hi,
02:47<mrpine>I am looking for a place that i can find all deb file of debian 7.1 not updates deb file
02:47<mrpine>any help
02:47<mrpine>?
02:47<jm_>what exactly do you mean?
02:48<markybob>mrpine, i have no idea what you mean but maybe http://packages.debian.org is what you mean?
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02:48<mrpine>I have a installed debian 7.1 server. can not update it. no internet connection. what to install dnsutils packes
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02:49<jm_>you can use apt-zip for offline updates
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02:49<markybob>mrpine, yep. apt-zip. or if it's just a simple package you can download it from http://packages.debian.org and then use dpkg -i foo.deb to install
02:49<mrpine>can not fine the proper version. debian site always show me the latest version. so I have to update many deb file to install it
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02:50<jm_>search for it for the right release
02:50<mrpine>who?! give me a hint
02:50<markybob>mrpine, archive.debian.org is still around
02:50<jm_>but yeah, some dependencies will need to be downloaded I suppose, depending on particular package
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02:50<jm_>or use the snapshot site
02:51<jm_>!snapshot
02:51<dpkg>http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412
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02:55<markybob>mrpine, /topic clearly says don't /msg people
02:57<mrpine>ok ... snapshot.debian.org is good ... but how to find 7.1 ?!
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02:57<markybob>mrpine, do you have a cell phone? make a mobile hotspot. apt-get update. then use apt-zip and download the packages elsewhere
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02:58<mrpine>no, no internet connections!
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02:58<markybob>mrpine, then how do you think you'll get the package from anywhere?
02:59<kernelcorn>for that matter, how are you on IRC?
02:59<kernelcorn>put the packages on a flashdrive or something
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03:00<markybob>kernelcorn, yeah he's been shown how to do it...it's confusing. i don't know what the real problem is.
03:02<mrpine>come on ! this is exactly the thing i want to do, so looking for the package. but the problem is that can not old version of package. new version need many update dep file.
03:02<jm_>I told you, find it on the snapshot site
03:04<markybob>mrpine, apt-cache policy packagename will tell you what version you need
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03:06<mrpine>wow ... solved. tnx every body ;-) . I ran dpkg -l| grep bind and find the exact bind version in snapshot file
03:06<mrpine>so, it show me the dep file(dnsutils) and ...
03:07<mrpine>tnx. I have a goode experice with linux(centos/sl/redhat) but new in debian
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03:51<[Dan]>hello
03:51<[Dan]>the search on https://packages.debian.org doesn't work for jessie
03:52<[Dan]>https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=apache2&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all
03:53<jm_>click on the Some link and read what the web page tells you, it works just fine
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03:53<[Dan]>apache2 in unavailable on jessie
03:53<jm_>also read this at the bottom of the page -- To report a problem with the web site, e-mail debian-www@lists.debian.org.
03:54<[Dan]>some link provide infoemation only for others
03:54<[Dan]>ok, thanks, will do that
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04:13<anonymous>hello
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04:13<anonymous>is there anyone here
04:13<anonymous>i need to ask a qustion
04:14<jm_>!ask
04:14<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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04:15<anonymous>ok bro thx
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04:29<mypine>I have 2 bind server. each one have on zone. my users should set any bind server to get all zones info. so I create zone forward zone on each server
04:29<mypine>if but it does not work
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04:30<mypine>connection timed out; no servers could be reached.! no firewall! . i can get dns packet on other dns server but it does not answer
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04:37<jm_>try #bind on irc.freenode.net
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04:39<mypine>tnx jm_
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07:10<prectOS>Hey
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07:10<prectOS>Does anyway knows a way to monitor the IP addresses and ports of a certain application?
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07:13<duclicsic>prectOS: you can see what IP and port a process is listening on with netstat. "netstat -ntlup" will show this if you run it as root.
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07:14<jm_>and also for any connections it has
07:14<chele>prectOS You can use a packet sniffer for specific IP and/or port e.g. wireshark/tcpdump
07:15<duclicsic>if you want to see open connections, omit the "l" from the arguments
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07:21<prectOS>Thanks, sorry i wasn't here
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07:25<prectOS>Its not printing the foreign addresses
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07:29<grove>prectOS: I've never seen that, even when run as non-root netstat shows foreign addresses here, can you put the output on a pastebin?
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07:31<prectOS>I ran it on sudo, herehttp://pastebin.com/uuYNvtiE
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07:31<prectOS>http://pastebin.com/uuYNvtiE *
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07:35<prectOS>so after using netstat --tcp --programs , i got a foreign ip for that java program
07:35<krrnnkz>damn foreigners
07:36<prectOS>But games uses more an UDP p to exchange data
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07:37<grove>prectOS: That is to be expected. You specified -l, i.e. asked netstat for sockets programs are listening on, in that case there are no foreign addresses
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07:38<prectOS>Why doesn't UDP prints anything?
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07:39<grove>prectOS: UDP isn't stateful, so there are no connections, so netstat can only report on UDP traffic going right in the moment it looks
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07:40<prectOS>But the game obviously have a fast update rate, so i should get something now?
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07:43<grove>prectOS: I'm not an expert on netstat with UDP and absolutely not on games. Another way to monitor what a program does on the network is to make sure it runs as a specific user (or with a specific pid) and use LOG rules in iptables
07:44<prectOS>Ah thanks sir
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08:36<jose>hola
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09:27<gaetanov62>Hi
09:27<gaetanov62>can I ask in italian?
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09:27<anonymous>h'
09:27<anonymous>hi
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09:30<gaetanov62>I have installe debian 8 jessie
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09:31<gaetanov62>and in synaptic there isn't te possibility
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09:31<gaetanov62>to set from which server get the repositories
09:32<grove>!it
09:32<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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09:33<gaetanov62>ok grazie
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10:05<master>Yo
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10:36<anjaneyulu>hi
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10:54<gass>hello there
10:54<gass>there where linux kernel packages with realtime extensions
10:54<gass>but it seems not to exist anymore
10:55<gass>is there any "how-to" enable them and repackage the kernel?
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10:59<alex_>Hu
11:00<alex_>Hi*
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11:37<K-202>Anyone using math software? which is fast in computations and do not have "float" issue (like matlab)? Calc has high precision numbers but its performance sucks.
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12:47<Guest358>how can i configure xorg.conf for dual monitor use? (with an LCD TV)
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12:51<mju>!xorg.conf
12:51<dpkg>From Debian 5.0 "Lenny" onwards, xorg mostly configures itself. Resolution is set by your monitor/graphics card (unless they're broken), by your desktop environment or <xrandr>. From Debian 6.0 "Squeeze", input hotplugging saves duplicating settings and restarting X after changes. The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is usually no longer needed and is often blank. Manual configuration is still possible, see <xorg manual config>.
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12:52<mju>I think that one does not need to fiddle with the xorg.conf to use two monitors. At least on my laptop, I can set up using an external monitor with GUI programs.
12:53<fabian>yeah, it should be possible in most desktop environments or alternatively using xrandr
12:54<fabian>even xfce has it now
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12:56<Guest358>no it doesn't recognize the other monitor
12:57<Guest358>i tried to create config files in xorg.conf.d but than the X failed to load i don't know how to edit it
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12:58<Guest358>inxi -G says:
12:58<Guest358>Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV710/M92 [Mobility Radeon HD 4530/4570/545v]
12:58<Guest358>Display Server: X.org 1.16.4 drivers: fbdev,ati,vesa,radeon
12:58<mju>Guest358: what is your setup? Which desktop environment do you use? How is your TV connected, how is your monitor connected?
12:59<Guest358>can someone tell what to write to xorg.conf ? or how do i know what to write
12:59<Guest358>it is connected with HDMI
13:00<Guest358>KDE
13:00<mju>Are you using Jessie (Debian 8)?
13:00<Guest358>yes
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13:02<towo`>Guest358, you have firmware-linux-nonfree installed?
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13:03<mju>So, personally I had trouble with KDE and several monitors. I have never really solved them. But gnome seemed to have more support. You could try if gnome just recognizes your screen and try to work from there.
13:03<towo`>Guest358, and delet any xorg.conf, it's not needed at all
13:03<lindi->Guest358: indeed, test with a live cd for example
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13:04<Guest358>there is no config file in use at all? on default
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13:05<towo`>Guest358, x does not need any xorg.conf
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13:05<towo`>Guest358, and can you answer the question above?
13:06<Guest358>well i guess it's not installed correctly
13:06<Guest358>how can i determined if it's installed or not? i remember i had problems with it when i set up debian
13:07<towo`>Guest358, dpkg -l firmware-linux-nonfree
13:08<towo`>Guest358, and debian official does not provide this firmwares on the install media
13:08<towo`>so you have to install it yourself
13:08<Guest358>it is not installed
13:09<towo`>then install it and reboot
13:09<towo`>after that all should work
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13:10<Guest358>thank you
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13:17<dog>could I get some help with my graphics driver?
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13:17<dog>I keep having to reinstall debian when the proprietary installer crashes
13:18<dog>I'm using an AMD radeon R9 380, the free drivers put cinnamon into software rendering mode and the system crashes about once an hour
13:18<dog>if I could successfully get some better drivers installed, I think it would stop doing that.
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13:20<mju>A wild guess:
13:20<mju>!radeon firmware
13:20<dpkg>Binary-only firmware for the radeon <DRM> driver is packaged for Debian as firmware-linux-nonfree. Without this package installed, poor 2D/3D performance in the <radeon> xorg driver is commonly experienced. To install, ask me about <non-free sources>. This is not required for use of the <fglrx> driver.
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13:27<towo`>mju, jessie is to old for R9
13:27<towo`>it would need a recent kernel, dri, ddx and mesa
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13:28<mju>Ok. Sorry.
13:28<towo`>and i think fglrx 15.9 would be the minimum version for R9
13:29<towo`>which is in testing, don't know if it is in backports
13:29<peter_>(I'm Guest358) it's still not working but i'm glad i managed to install firmware-nonfree
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13:29<towo`>peter_, "not working" sayes zero
13:30<towo`>peter_, provide relevant logfiles, at minimum /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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13:31<peter_>http://pastebin.com/7ExCem6u
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13:33<towo`>peter_, ever played with fglrx?
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13:35<peter_>no, not yet
13:35<peter_>yes
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13:35<towo`>peter_, dpkg -l | grep fglrx
13:36<Bloodshot>Hey guys. I have a small patch for the package 'grub2' that fixes what I believe to be a deficiency. How would I go about suggesting the patch?
13:36<Bloodshot>Should I submit a bug report and put the patch there?
13:37<peter_>http://pastebin.com/06qEguEb
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13:39<towo`>peter_, apt purge $(dokg -l | awk '/fglrx/{ print $2 }') then reboot
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13:39<towo`>grr
13:39<towo`>peter_, apt purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/fglrx/{ print $2 }') then reboot
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13:39<peter_>this will delete fglrx?
13:40<towo`>sure
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13:41<peter_>ok, it's done im rebooting
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13:41<Bloodshot>For future reference, `apt purge 'fglrx*'` works just as well without shelling out to awk
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13:42<Bloodshot>Or '*fglrx*' to get it anywhere in the package name
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13:45<Guest372>:O it's working
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13:45<Guest372>towo, thanks for your help
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14:01<DrManhattan>I'm looking to take the jessie live standard (no GUI) image, change the repos and add a few packages, then export that as an iso image to use on USB sticks. Is this possible?
14:05<lindi->DrManhattan: you should just generate a new image I guess
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14:06<DrManhattan>ok, how do I go about generating a new image out of an install?
14:06<blast007>DrManhattan: https://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ some info there about building a custom live image
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14:15<retrospectacus>DrManhattan: #debian-live would know a lot about doing that
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14:33<stoned>apt purge?
14:33<stoned>That's new to me.
14:34<stoned>Interesting.
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14:35<Bloodshot>stoned, if you're unfamiliar with 'apt', it is the newest frontend to apt
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14:35<stoned>Yeah, I'm reading.
14:36<stoned>There are only 4 differences.
14:36<stoned>The option DPkg::Progress-Fancy is enabled. <- done on apt-get already
14:36<stoned> The option APT::Color is enabled. Also done using grc and regex, maybe acs.
14:37<stoned>A new list command is available similar to dpkg --list. <- not sure what this does
14:37<stoned>The option upgrade has --with-new-pkgs enabled by default. <- and I'm sure this also has an apt-get equivalent.
14:37<stoned>I don't any need to switch my bash aliases to apt instead of apt-get
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14:38<stoned>It even says to not use apt in script, but to use apt-get, apt-cache, etc.
14:38<Brigo>stoned, dpkg --list lists files in a package
14:38<stoned>Brigo: dpkg -L or --list
14:38<Bloodshot>Brigo, I think you mean dpkg --listfiles
14:38<Bloodshot>dpkg --list lists packages
14:38<dpkg>Bloodshot: I don't know, could you explain it?
14:39<stoned>-L, --listfiles package-name...
14:39<Brigo>Bloodshot, you are right, sorry.
14:39<stoned>I always used -L and not --list. So I never knew that --list was a thing. I read the dpkg manpage long time ago before today.
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14:40<Bloodshot>apt also includes 'search' from apt-cache, and 'edit-sources'
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14:41<stoned>Cool
14:41<stoned>Nice tool
14:41<stoned>Cool tool
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14:46<gxg>Is there something different with how apt 1.1.0 reads sources.list?
14:46<stoned>In what way?
14:47<gxg>stoned: It doesn't seem to be reading all the entries in my sources.list.d/all.list file. Or is there just way less output.
14:47<stoned>How do you know it's not reading it
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14:48<stoned>What happens when you apt-get update? Does it show your repository from all.list in the output?
14:49<gxg>stoned: http://paste.debian.net/365876 http://paste.debian.net/365877
14:50<roopertti>hello
14:50<stoned>uhm.
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14:50<stoned>gxg: it's working. But WHY o WHY are you mixing stable, stable updates, testing, unstable and experimental on one system?
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14:51<gxg>stoned: because im crazy
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14:51<stoned>May I know why?
14:51<stoned>'crazy' isn't good enough reason.
14:51<gxg>stoned: i have things pinned nicely.
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14:51<stoned>May I see your pins?
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14:51<stoned><- curious
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14:56<gxg>stoned: i sent you a query
14:56<stoned>I got it
14:56<stoned>Sounds like you have things under control.
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14:56<stoned>Beware that this kind of a system, you're likely not going to find much support for
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14:59<stoned>I don't think you're stupid. I don't think it's terrible. I just think that you are free to use your system and compute however you like to compute, but should you deviate from the norm, keep in mind others may not be able to support you
14:59<stoned>Also, I don't much care for pms out of the blue. :)
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15:09<gxg>stoned: My only concern, just so you know, was whether apt 1.1.0 was reading my sources.list files correctly, and it's NOT.
15:09<gxg>stoned: but don't worry you won't get any pms from me ;)
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15:11<stoned>It seemed like it was reading it correctly
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15:11<anonymous>i_
15:12<anonymous>hi_
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15:12<anonymous>Hi markybob
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16:58<dark-jedi>Hey whiteghost :)
16:59<whiteghost>hello was tying to figure out what to do lolbut got it
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17:01<whiteghost>im using peppermint distro would it be problem using that here never tried dedian itself but should be close to the same i hope
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17:03<retrospectacus>only debian is supported here.
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17:03<retrospectacus>try #peppermint on irc.spotchat.org
17:04<whiteghost>let me look
17:04<whiteghost>yep was there its dead
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17:05<retrospectacus>you should install debian then. Lots of helpful people here!
17:05<dark-jedi>lol. Best sales pitch I've heard.
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17:07<whiteghost>most machines more then 10 yrs old have few that are 5yrs or newer think debian thats why went peppermint way
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18:06<R4F_Debian>Hi all
18:07<R4F_Debian>I would like to know about the graphical environment for R Statistical Programming Language
18:07<R4F_Debian>which package do I have to install, in order to have this graphical resource for R ?
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18:08<patron>R4F_Debian: R is not supported in mint , however they have their own irc channel on the freenode network
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18:09<R4F_Debian>Hi patron, but I don't use linux mint, My OS is Debian Jessie 8.2
18:10<R4F_Debian>I have this resource in other Debian installation, but don't remember what is the package to activate graphical system for R
18:11<patron>R4F_Debian: my mistake, i wasnt paying attention to my channel window
18:11<R4F_Debian>I don't have any idea about mint project, for I only use Debian (my first OS) and Slackware
18:11<R4F_Debian>no problem, patron
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18:12<R4F_Debian>Hi somiaj
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18:14<patron>R4F_Debian: what desktop do you use? there is a kde front end - rkward, it appears
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18:15<R4F_Debian>patron, I use mate
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18:15<R4F_Debian>I just remember when it is installed, it shows an icon called " R Commander ' in desktop
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18:21<R4F_Debian>don't know if it will be of help, patron, but the packages for R in the old installation is these: http://pastebin.com/dHKuHC7v
18:22<R4F_Debian>but it is a large list, don't know which of these packages refer to graphical environment for R
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18:46<imathemad>hello everybod
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18:46<imathemad>hello i need helpp with debiann
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18:52<R4F_Debian>I would like to know about the graphical environment for R Statistical Programming Language. Its name is 'R Commander', but I don't know how to install it through command line in Debian
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18:54<R4F_Debian>imathemad, I think you have to introduce your question, first of all, to be attended
18:54<R4F_Debian>if they don't know about your issue, they won't be able to help you
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19:05<usr>hi
19:05<R4F_Debian>Hi usr, how are you ?
19:05<usr>good thnx, first time here
19:05<R4F_Debian>Welcome !
19:05<usr>thnx
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19:10<R4F_Debian>HI all, I've installed 'R' Statistical app and programming language here, but I need Rcmdr (R Commander). How to install this application through command line in Debian ?
19:11<patron>R4F_Debian: has it been packaged and released for debian ?
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19:12<R4F_Debian>yes, it has been packaged, and its name is rcmdr, but I don't know the specific syntax I have to use in the command line to install it
19:12<Brigo>R4F_Debian, maybe r-cran-rcmdr?
19:13<Brigo>R4F_Debian, apt-get install rcmdr, then
19:13<R4F_Debian>no, the 2nd option does not exist, I have already tried it
19:13<R4F_Debian>perhaps the first one, let me try it here
19:14<patron>tried apt install r-cran-rcmdr ?
19:14<Brigo>R4F_Debian, rcmdr is the name of what?
19:14<R4F_Debian>R Commander, the graphical interface for the 'R' Program, Brigo
19:14<patron>seems to work here
19:15<R4F_Debian>R is a programming language and application, by the same time, for Statistical Computing
19:15<R4F_Debian>what did you do patron ?
19:15<patron>tried apt install r-cran-rcmdr
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19:15<patron>as root
19:16<R4F_Debian>surely, but, did you use this sequence: apt-get install rcmdr ?
19:17<R4F_Debian>oh, sorry, I see, patron
19:17<R4F_Debian>apt-get install r-cran-rcmdr, as Brigo said
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19:18<patron>R4F_Debian: as root i typed exactly this: apt install r-cran-rcmdr
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19:18<patron>copy and paste it into a root terminal
19:18<R4F_Debian>did you get the graphical interface for R, so ?
19:18<R4F_Debian>well, good !
19:19<patron>R4F_Debian: have you ever used said interface?
19:20<R4F_Debian>no, patron, it is better using R in the command line, but as I'm novice in 'R', its better to begin it using R Commander
19:20<R4F_Debian>Hey patron, it is being installed here ! Great !
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19:20<R4F_Debian>Debian Warriors are the Best, Forever ! Thanks, Brigo and patron !
19:20<Brigo>R4F_Debian, yw :)
19:20<patron>R4F_Debian: i have no idea how one starts the interface once it has been installed
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19:21<Brigo>patron, there is an icon, anywhere :)
19:22<R4F_Debian>as Brigo said, patron, it is created an R Commander icon, on the desktop
19:22<R4F_Debian>red an white icon
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19:27<R4F_Debian>I must go now, Thanks for Great and Powerful Support, Brigo and patron ! As I said before, Debian Warriors are the Best !
19:28<R4F_Debian>Bye !
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19:43<seanw>Brigo: high praise from R4F
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20:28<R4F_Debian>Hi all ! I'd like to install cinelerra on my Debian Jessie 8.2. But I only use official stable debian jessie repositories, and cinelerra is not available on them. I saw a site that explains the procedure of non-free installation. That is here: http://linuxdicasesuporte.blogspot.com.br/2013/12/edicao-de-videos-com-cinelerra-no.html
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20:29<R4F_Debian>My doubt is: is there any risk of damaging my Debian installation, if I add these non-free repository for cinelerra on my Debian ?
20:29<R4F_Debian>or, it's better compiling it ?
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20:31<bremner>R4F_Debian: that's a tough question to answer, unless some has actual experience with those repositories in particular.
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20:31<R4F_Debian>Oh, Hi bremner, how are you ?
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20:33<R4F_Debian>other installation strategy would be to compile it. What do you think about it ?
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20:34<bremner>R4F_Debian: I guess I'd probably compile it and install it into /usr/local
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20:35<R4F_Debian>sorry bremner, I don't know how to compile it. Where can I find any explanation about it ?
20:37<bremner>R4F_Debian: any reasonably large project will include instructions with the source
20:38<R4F_Debian>ok bremner, thank you !
20:39<R4F_Debian>Didn't see you before, a Nice and Productive 2016 for you bremner !
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21:56<virgosun> hi all
21:56<virgosun> something wrong with asusx451ca uefi
21:56<virgosun> can anyone help
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21:59<virgosun_> hi all
21:59<virgosun_> something wrong with asusx451ca uefi
21:59<virgosun_> can anyone help
22:00<bremner>!ask
22:00<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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