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---Logopened Fri Jan 15 00:00:00 2016
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00:00<vortek>hello
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00:00<vortek>when ever i watch a movie or dvd the color is blocky can anyone help?
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00:16<Gamer1990>hello
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00:17<Gamer1990>i need help figuring out how to get my bluetooth hardware to work
00:17<Gamer1990>this is what i get from lsusb
00:17<Gamer1990>Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0a5c:21b4 Broadcom Corp. BCM2070 Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR
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00:25<vortek>my sound is not loud.. i forgot what pkg u all told me to download to fix this
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00:31<Gamer1990>can someone please help me get my broadcom bcm2070 bluetooth adapter to work?
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00:36<nevyn>firmware
00:36<nevyn>!bcm2070
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00:39<vortek>i cant get loud sound in debian.. im using pulse audio. can i get some help? google dont offer any good solutions
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00:39<steve_foley>sometimes I use VLC and it boosts up the sound
00:39<steve_foley>at least, I think it does :-)
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00:40<Gamer1990>i still can't get it to work
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00:41<vortek>steve_foley, thanxs ill try that
00:41<nevyn>Gamer1990: did you download the firmware? I think I have the same one
00:41<Gamer1990>what firmware?
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00:42<Gamer1990>it is integrated as part of my b43 wireless card but it is talking through usb
00:42<Gamer1990>the wifi works fine
00:42<Gamer1990>the bluetooth however, doe not
00:42<steve_foley>@vortek I use pavucontrol
00:43<Gamer1990>and it identifies as Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0a5c:21b4 Broadcom Corp. BCM2070 Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR
00:43<nevyn>yep and it works but not headset profile?
00:43<nevyn>what are you trying to make it work with as a bluetooth device?
00:43<vortek>steve_foley, that the one
00:43<Gamer1990>the bluetooth assistant does not find it
00:43<vortek>steve_foley tanxs man
00:44<nevyn>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1065400
00:44<Gamer1990>i want my headphone to connect to it
00:44<steve_foley>@vortek :-)
00:44<vortek>:)
00:45<nevyn>Gamer1990: yeah
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00:45<Gamer1990>...
00:45<nevyn>Gamer1990: see the launchpad bug.
00:45<Gamer1990>i am reading it...
00:45<nevyn>you need firmware to support A2DP and Headset profiles
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00:48<Gamer1990>the bluetooth hardware seems to work when i attempt to access my wiimotes
00:48<Gamer1990>but the assistant hates me
00:48<nevyn>yep
00:49<nevyn>so bluetooth software is.. sigh the bluez5 transition was nasty
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00:49<Gamer1990>is there a fix ?
00:49<Gamer1990>i have the bluez package and so on
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00:51<nevyn>which one?
00:51<nevyn>what version of bluez do you have
00:52<nevyn>Gamer1990: so there are possibly multiple things wrong here.
00:52<Gamer1990>hold on
00:52<Gamer1990>how do i find that out?
00:54<nevyn>dpkg -l bluez
00:54<dpkg>ii bluez 3.1-2 ultra s3kr1t #debian package
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00:55<vortek>why iis my dvd video playback color slightly blocky?
00:55<Gamer1990>ii bluez 5.23-2+b1 amd64 Bluetooth tools and daemons
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00:56<nevyn>right.
00:56<Gamer1990>so?
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00:57<nevyn>his version fo bluez no longer support HASP
00:57<nevyn>HSP and HFP
00:58<Gamer1990>and?
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00:58<nevyn>Remove internal support for telephony (HFP and HSP) profiles. They should be implemented using the new Profile interface preferably by the telephony subsystem of choice (e.g. oFono which already supports this)
00:58<nevyn>from the bluez 5 release notes ^^
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00:59<Gamer1990>i installed ofono, now what?
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00:59<nevyn>that won't help
00:59<nevyn>hillariously
01:00<Gamer1990>...
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01:00<nevyn>What profile do your headphones use?
01:00<Gamer1990>i don't know
01:00<Gamer1990>they're from headrush
01:00<nevyn>bluez5 is also why your bluetooth gnome widget is busted btw
01:00<nevyn>model/brand?
01:01<nevyn>harmony?
01:01<Gamer1990>model : 8003763
01:01<nevyn>blech
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01:02<nevyn>last page of the manual. supported profiles
01:02<Gamer1990>they work fine on my android 4.4.x tablet and they worked fine in windows 7
01:02<nevyn>but if they're stereo headphones they almost certainly support a2dp
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01:03<Gamer1990>yeah?
01:03<Gamer1990>they are stereo headphones
01:03<nevyn>right so they do a2dp
01:03<nevyn>but.
01:03<Gamer1990>?
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01:03<nevyn>that ubuntu bug.
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01:03<Gamer1990>what part?
01:04<nevyn>the bcm2070 doesn't do a2dp without a firmware file
01:04<Gamer1990>okay
01:04<nevyn>so it'll work for keyboards, mice, wiimotes etc
01:04<Gamer1990>what specific file is it?
01:04<nevyn>but not anything audio
01:04<vortek>mplayer isn not showing video.. only plays sound with no video.. what do i need to do?
01:05<nevyn>Gamer1990: look in dmesg
01:05<Gamer1990>okay hold on...
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01:05<nevyn>the kernel will print a message that it's missingif it's what I think.
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01:05<jm_>vortek: are you on jessie?
01:06<vortek>i fixed it :)
01:06<jm_>if you're on jessie switch to mpv instead of mplayer
01:06<vortek>ok
01:06<vortek>thanxs
01:07<vortek>but mplayer i went to ppreferences and selected x11 for video
01:07<vortek>it fixed it
01:07<Gamer1990>nevyn: http://paste.debian.net/365938/
01:08<vortek>nope wont display full screen video
01:09<vortek>ill try mpv
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01:10<Gamer1990>i'm using xfce
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01:11<nevyn>nope that looks fine
01:11<Gamer1990>ok
01:11<nevyn>other than the hci0 timeout
01:11<nevyn>which is scary
01:11<Gamer1990>why?
01:11<nevyn>so if you run bluetoothctl
01:12<nevyn>and put your headset in pairing mode can you see them?
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01:14<Gamer1990>No default controller available
01:14<vortek>it takes for ever to install packages.. takes minuted to download but for ever to install.. any ideas as to why?
01:14<Gamer1990>nevyn: when i type list, it returns nothing
01:14<jm_>slow disk? issues with it?
01:15<vortek>its using /dev/sda so that means a ssd?
01:15<jm_>if you are adventurous you could try using eatmydata for installation to see if it's any faster
01:15<vortek>ok
01:15<jm_>just be careful with it
01:15<vortek>why? hehe
01:16<jm_>read its description - I also noticed installing is slow on SSD too, at least for single (or small number of them) packages, I know dist upgrade was not that slow
01:16<nevyn>Gamer1990: run power on then scan on
01:16<nevyn>inside bluetoothctl
01:17<Gamer1990>it returns No default controller available
01:17<nevyn>ok
01:17<Gamer1990>[bluetooth]# ?
01:18<Gamer1990>should i be using it as root?
01:18<vortek>thanxs jm_
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01:18<jm_>no worries
01:18<nevyn>is it turned off? check rfkill (tho that should be the same as power inside bluetoothctl)
01:18<Gamer1990>how?
01:18<nevyn>oh get out of bluetoothctl
01:19<nevyn>and type rfkill
01:19<Gamer1990>i did
01:19<nevyn>see if it's listed
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01:19<Gamer1990>it is not hard or soft blocked.
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01:20<Gamer1990>1452838789.862195: idx 0 type 1 op 0 soft 0 hard 0
01:20<Gamer1990>1452838789.862255: idx 1 type 2 op 0 soft 0 hard 0
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01:20<Gamer1990>that is the event readout from rfkill
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01:22<nevyn>ok
01:22<Gamer1990>the bluetooth hardware on listed on hci0
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01:22<nevyn>but you can pair your wiimote?
01:22<nevyn>how did you do that?
01:22<Gamer1990>yeah with wmgui
01:22<Gamer1990>and transfermii
01:23<nevyn>does that work still
01:23<Gamer1990>hold on...
01:23<nevyn>becasue it looks like hci0 has gone bye-by
01:23*nevyn has gotta get out of here. biab
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01:24<Gamer1990>it still works
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01:40<nevyn>you should use bluetoothctl as yourself
01:41<nevyn>so if you run list with the wiimote connected it should be listed
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01:45<vortek>im not understanding gvfs-fuse.. googled for it .. no luck.. i looked at wiki still dont know if i need it.. can some explian to me wht gvfs-fuse is?
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02:10<vortek>jm_ that eatmydata works , thanxs
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02:17<jm_>vortek: just be very careful when using it, i.e. make sure no power loss happens and do sync afterwards
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02:18<jm_>bleh
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02:28<jm_>vortek: just be very careful when using it, i.e. make sure no power loss happens and do sync afterwards
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02:30<vortek>sync?
02:30<jm_>man sync
02:31<vortek>ok :)
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07:13<el_es>so I don't want to run proxmox ;J i found LXC webpanel (claudyus fork) - anyone used that?
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07:14<el_es>I also can't run KVM vm's 'cause my cpus are too old (no hw virt)
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08:45<vortek_> is there a guide for installing bsd security features on debian , like pax overflow protection and such?
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08:51<vortek_>is there a guide on how to add bsd seurity to debian
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08:52<vortek_>like pax and buffer oveflow security?
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09:20<vortek>how can i find out rd is using?what driver my wireless ca
09:20<vortek>wtf
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09:21<vortek>how can i find out what driver my wireless card is using?
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09:23<homediseno>hblen
09:23<homediseno>hablen claro
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09:23<homediseno>Lacritas
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09:23<bremner>!es
09:23<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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09:24<homediseno>Hablen
09:24<vortek>i found it :)
09:25<homediseno>que la que hay??
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09:26<homediseno>Lacrita Vortek
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09:26<vortek>?
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09:36<homediseno>nah jo de
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09:40<homediseno>hablen
09:40<homediseno>Lacras
09:40<homediseno>no vale
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09:41<petn-randall>!es
09:41<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
09:41<petn-randall>homediseno: ^^^
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11:10<hmuller>Does equivs work with library packages? (i.e. libfoo, etc), if so, what's the trick
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11:27<r4fkramer>Hi all
11:27<r4fkramer>I had to delete one of the two OS in my hd, but gparted couldn't delete the swap partition
11:28-!-mode/#debian [+l 760] by debhelper
11:28<mtn>r4fkramer: probably because it was mounted
11:28<r4fkramer>now, I don't know exactly which swap partition I have to delete. I'm afraid getting the mistake to delete the wrong partition
11:28<r4fkramer>Hi mtn
11:28<r4fkramer>mtn, the second OS is my Debian
11:29<mtn>r4fkramer: you only need one swap partition, so as long as the fstab points to the right partition, you are fine
11:29<r4fkramer>don't remember which swap partition belongs to debian
11:29<grove>r4fkramer: Look in your fstab
11:29<r4fkramer>yes, mtn, I know, but how to discover the debian partition ?
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11:29<r4fkramer>Hi grove
11:30<mtn>r4fkramer: should be easy, look in your fstab :)
11:30<r4fkramer>in the case, I have to access fstab
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11:30<r4fkramer>ok mtn and grove
11:30<r4fkramer>emacs /etc/fstab ?
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11:31<grove>I wouldn't use an editor just to look at the file, but that would work
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11:31<r4fkramer>I see grove, in the case I could use cat
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11:32<r4fkramer>I can see descriptions of the two swap partitions, but continue in doubt: which of them belongs to my Debian ?
11:32<r4fkramer>I can't delete the wrong partition
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11:33<mtn>r4fkramer: as long as the one in the fstab is still existing, you are fine. so delete the other one, the one not in the fstab
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11:33<hmuller>equivs question. context:
11:34<hmuller>equivs question. context: http://paste.debian.net/366011
11:34<grove>If two swap partitions are mentioned in fstab both are probably used. As there's no persistant data on a swap partition, there's normally no problem in using the same with multiple distibutions
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11:34<petn-randall>grove: Unless you suspend to disk.
11:35<grove>r4fkramer: Use free to see how much swap you have in total, and compare to the size if the partitions
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11:37<lzz>r4fkramer: commanding "swapon" without parameters, you can see swap partitions and files
11:37<grove>petn-randall: I've never tried that, so I don't know, but why would that cause issues. There's no chance anything will change what is in that partition while the machine is suspended, and it will be the same installation waking up
11:37<r4fkramer>ok grove, but now I have an unallocated space to install kali linux again. And, during the installation, it will require a new swap partition. How do i do, continue with the installation, despite the fact there is one swap already ?
11:38<r4fkramer>I see, lzz
11:39<mtn>r4fkramer: you do not need a new swap. you only need one swap on the entire hard drive, they will share it
11:39<grove>r4fkramer: I don't know kali, but if it doesn't allow you to select an existing partition (or two) to use for swap, select one and remove it from fstab, and then use that for our kali installation
11:39<mtn>!kali
11:39<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
11:39<r4fkramer>I didn't know about it, mtn, so, only one swap will be enough for two OS ?
11:40<mtn>r4fkramer: or 4 or 6 or how ever many you are using :)
11:40<r4fkramer>ok, so I won't delete the remaining swap partition, which belonged to old kali installation
11:40<petn-randall>grove: You suspend on distro A, boot into distro B. If you use the swap on distro B it will wipe the signature on the swap partitions causing you to loose state in distro A (i.e. you can't resume into distro A again, that state is lost).
11:41<r4fkramer>it will consume a bit of space, but, if there is no problem...
11:41<r4fkramer>don't I have to create an other new swap during kali installation so.... ?
11:41<mtn>r4fkramer: go ask the kali channel
11:42<r4fkramer>I think it is not the case to ask in the kali channel
11:42<r4fkramer>according your previous instructions about this issue, mtn
11:42<mtn>r4fkramer: yes, it is. this is not kali support. read what dpkg just said
11:42<grove>petn-randall: If you can boot into another distro while one is suspended to disc, I do see problems, but I didn't know that was an option - isn't suspend-to-disk mostly for when closing the lid on a laptop
11:43<r4fkramer>in the case, I don't want any ask about kali
11:43<r4fkramer>my question is preserving debian, not kali
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11:43<r4fkramer>that's all I don't want to get the mistake to delete the wrong partition
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11:44<mtn>r4fkramer: and you have had your answer several times
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11:44<petn-randall>grove: Depends on the config. Closing the lid will either do nothing, suspend to RAM, or suspend to disk. It's just a minor pitfall to take care of before dual booting distros. Having two swap partitions or not suspending to disk will circumvent that problematic case.
11:44<grove>r4fkramer: But the open question lies in whether you can select an existing partition to use for swap during kali installation, that has nothing to do with debian
11:44<r4fkramer>doubts are doubts, mtn, If I was totally secure about it, I wouln't ask here several times....
11:45<grove>r4fkramer: A better option is to skip kali and just run debian
11:45<r4fkramer>no, this is not the central question, grove, it comes after. My basic question is preserving debian
11:45<mtn>r4fkramer: the answer is not going to change, so.....
11:45<r4fkramer>yes, grove, I think about it
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11:47<r4fkramer>good and decisive suggestion, grove, I will do it.
11:48<r4fkramer>well, thanks mtn, for your Support and information; thanks, grove, for your Supporte and information given
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11:48<r4fkramer>and, sorry if I disturbed you mtn, but I was feeling unsecure about what to do, doing without sure and damage my Debian
11:48<grove>r4fkramer: In addition to saying that it shouldn't be a problem if the kali installation isn't too stupid, I've also told you what you can do if you need to free a partition
11:50<hmuller>r4kramer: don't be afraid to break it. make sure you have a good backup process. and if stuff breaks beyond repair, reinstall.
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11:51<r4fkramer>My first and basic OS is always Debian, grove, I just intended to study a little bit about penetration testing with kali in the same hard disk, that's why I used it in the same hd I use debian jessie
11:51<r4fkramer>ok hmuller, thanks for suggestion !
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11:51<r4fkramer>grove, and because it is a debian based on OS
11:52<r4fkramer>but, thanks for help
11:53<r4fkramer>I must go now, bye Debian Warriors
11:53<r4fkramer>and thank you very much again !
11:53<r4fkramer>Bye !
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12:02<Kryczek>Hi! I was wondering: is the first WiFi card detected always wlan0? Or do some drivers still create names like ath0, eth1, etc?
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12:10<royman87>buenos dias
12:10<hmuller>Kryczek: I believe that depends on the driver for the WIFI card. Google madwifi, and you will see ath0 and wifi0 devices may be created
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12:12<Kryczek>hmuller: thanks, I remember madwifi that's why I mentioned ath0 :) but I thought maybe that was prevented by newer udev or something
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12:39<hmuller>Does equivs work with library packages? (i.e. libfoo, etc), if so, what's the trick? context: http://paste.debian.net/366011
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13:39<RogerB>Doesn't anyone ask any questions??
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13:50<musca>"yes!"
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14:43<rafalhack>hi, why the firmware for ath9k_htc is not in main repository?
14:43<rafalhack>I mean why the open-source firmware is not there, the one from https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc/open_firmware
14:44<bremner>is it in the main linux tree?
14:44<petn-randall>rafalhack: It probably didn't exist at the time when the stable release was frozen.
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14:48<musca>,v firmware-atheros --release jessie-backports
14:48<judd>Package: firmware-atheros on amd64 -- jessie-backports/non-free: 20151207-1~bpo8+1
14:49<rafalhack>bremner: I see the .fw file in http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/ath9k_htc if that was your question
14:50<Brigo> * Atheros AR9170 free firmware for use with carl9170 (carl9170-1.fw) is in firmware-linux-free package from sid
14:51<Brigo>in jessie too.
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14:53<rafalhack>Brigo: it's device https://wikidevi.com/wiki/TP-LINK_TL-WN722N I think it can't use Carl driver
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14:54<rafalhack>Chipset: Atheros AR9002U / WI1 chip1: Atheros AR9271
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15:22<musca>rafalhack: oh, are you still searching?
15:22<musca>!AR9271
15:22<dpkg>ath9k_htc is a Linux kernel driver for Atheros AR9271 and AR7010-based 802.11n USB wireless LAN devices, introduced in Linux 2.6.35. Firmware is required, ask me about <atheros firmware> to provide. https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc
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15:23<musca>rafalhack: did you try firmware-atheros?
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16:26-!-ToBeFree is "Tobias "ToBeFree" Frei" on #debian #oolite-ger #oolite-dev #tails #openttd #tor #oolite #https-everywhere @+#linux
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16:41<gaetano>hhh
16:41<gaetano>hi
16:41<musca>hello gaetano
16:41<z3r0>hi all
16:42<gaetano>you speak italian?'
16:42<musca>!it
16:42<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
16:42<gaetano>tnx
16:43<musca>maybe that channel is on irc.freenode.net
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16:44<k>it's here on OFTC
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16:45<z3r0>i have question about Oracle weblogic, is there anyone that can help me?
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16:47<Guest572>hola, he instalado ubuntu MATE en un portátil LG y no me funcionan algunas letras.
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16:48<marcin>hello
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16:48<Guest572>hello i have problem with my ubuntu MATE
16:48<markybob>!es
16:48<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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16:49<markybob>Guest572, and this isn't #ubuntu. go to that channel
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16:49<Guest572>ok thanks
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16:50<k>z3r0, I only know a tutorial about installing it, but ask and someone might know
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16:57<k>z3r0, just ask
16:57<z3r0>i have question about hacking Oracle Weblogic, is there anyone that can help me???
16:58-!-mode/#debian [+l 745] by debhelper
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17:00<grove>!tell z3r0 about ask
17:03<z3r0>i have server that run oracle weblogic in htt://add:7001/console/login/login.jsp
17:03<z3r0>it run weblogic 10.3
17:04<z3r0>i try to find some code , exploit or something for attacking that but was not useful
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17:47<bremner>z3r0: this channel is for technical support for users of Debian GNU/Linux. It doesn't sound like your question is on topic.
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17:48<z3r0>ok bremner
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18:00<rich_ard>test
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18:06<k>!ask
18:06<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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18:10<TheAmorphous>After running apt-get update and upgrade today my Debian 8 won't boot. I'm getting a "timed out waiting for device dev-md0.device" error upon boot after it runs some 90 second job on the array. Can anyone help?
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18:11<TheAmorphous>It's a RAID5 array built with mdadm that works fine until I update. I can restore a backed up image of the Debian installation from right before the update and it mounts fine again.
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18:15<rich_ard>test
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18:16<Brigo>TheAmorphous, what does that upgrade changed?
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18:16<Brigo>TheAmorphous, what did that upgrade change?
18:16<TheAmorphous>A number of updates. Samba, linux-image, ssh, etc.
18:16<TheAmorphous>I tried deselecting the Samba ones in Package Updater last time but it updated them anyway
18:17<TheAmorphous>I imagine it has to be the new linux-image though
18:17<Brigo>samba can't be the problem more likely linux-image, yes.
18:18<TheAmorphous>What could cause an array to stop mounting? My mdadm.conf file is unchanged, as is fstab. They look identical to a very similar setup I'm running on an Ubuntu box with the same type of array.
18:18<Brigo>TheAmorphous, or something else executed on boot, grub, systemd, etc.
18:18<TheAmorphous>I can reboot the box repeatedly and it always mounts... until I run update and upgrade
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18:19<Brigo>TheAmorphous, search in the apt log for the package installed when you make and upgrade
18:20<TheAmorphous>Not sure what you mean. What am I looking for?
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18:21<Brigo>check /var/log/apt/history.log, there you can find all the packages installed, upgraded, etc.
18:21<sendq>can anyone join #debian-security ?
18:21<Brigo>TheAmorphous, anyway, the mounting is done by systemd.
18:21<sendq>chanserv says it's because of the +S flag
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18:22<sendq>Brigo: what about you?
18:22<Brigo>sendq, what about me? :)
18:23<Brigo>sendq, do you want me to try it?
18:23<sendq>yes please sir
18:23<TheAmorphous>Yeah I get a systemd-fsck error regarding "3 files" That's when it starts the job running on /media/Storage for 90 seconds
18:23<Brigo>sendq, i am in.
18:24<sendq>+S must be for registered with services users only
18:24<TheAmorphous>I'm trying to install all other updates except linux-image right now
18:24<Brigo>TheAmorphous, where did you get that information?
18:24<sendq>how is a channel public if it forces its users to identify themselves!?
18:24<TheAmorphous>The systemd-fsck error? During boot right before it dumps me into emergency mode
18:24<Brigo>sendq, well, it is security :)
18:25<TheAmorphous>Normally at that point it just says md0 has been started with 5 drives, etc then boots right into Gnome
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18:25<sendq>against what?
18:25<Brigo>sendq, against unregistered people ? :D
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18:26<markybob>sendq, spam bots, mostly
18:26<Brigo>TheAmorphous, this can help: http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/#index1h1
18:27<sendq>is this something common on oftc because I can count on the fingers of one hand the amount of times I've received any type of spam on IRC over the last 3 years with 90% certainty
18:27<sendq>bbl
18:27<sendq>thanks guys
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19:40<AndroUser>hi. quick question. what package is ftp from? i cant find it using apt-file or at packages.debian.org
19:41<themill>it would normally be from the 'ftp' package (via the alternatives system)
19:42<themill>,alternatives ftp
19:42<judd>Alternative ftp in sid: ftp, ftp-ssl, gftp-text, heimdal-clients, inetutils-ftp, krb5-clients, tnftp.
19:42<themill>but there are other providers you could use
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20:23<CPUSA>Hello
20:24<llldino>Is it a greater security risk if I leave a terminal window open that is logged into the root account?
20:24<CPUSA>Yes
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20:28<CPUSA>Hey
20:29<markybob>llldino, of course. i don't have a single machine with root enabled
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20:30<llldino>markybob, No, my root account is disabled, But if I use sudo -i in a terminal and leave it open, that's bad news bears right?
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20:31<markybob>llldino, yes. mostly because you can fuck up royally after a couple of beer without the sudo pause making you think and reread, though :P
20:32<llldino>Let's be honest, anything can happen after a few beers :D
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20:43<ferret_>boa noite
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21:55<gorgolath>hi ,can i have the best driver for beringer uca202 , it is not working with mydebian distro ,thanks in advance for your help
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22:07<llldino>gorgolath, Can I see the output of lsusb?
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22:13<gorgolath>i did it ,now ,it working thanks
22:16<llldino>Errr, no problem
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22:22<antichrist>hello
22:22<antichrist>should I be able to uninstall systemd from jessie?
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22:25<llldino>Why do you want to uninstall systemd?
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22:26<antichrist>does anyone know how to define the currently active init system?
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22:28<antichrist>llldino: hardening an installation and don't know enough about systemd at this time to know i want it there so i don't
22:28<llldino>What dio you want instead?
22:29<antichrist>the less shiny stuff
22:29<llldino>Which is...
22:30<llldino>Also do "head /proc/1/status" to see what init system you use
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22:30<antichrist>sysvinit
22:31<antichrist>yep, it's systemd
22:31<antichrist>o
22:31<antichrist>ok I think I need to kill init
22:31<antichrist>brb
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22:36<self>restarting init worked and systemd was uninstallable on boot
22:36<self>thanks
22:36<llldino>Are they still developing sysvinit?
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22:43<self>llldino: maintaining?
22:43<llldino>Sure
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22:59<dick>exit
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23:59<diblo>hi
23:59<diblo>are you here
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