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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-01-17

---Logopened Sun Jan 17 00:00:08 2016
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00:22<xianur0n>Hello all
00:22<xianur0n>I was working on a script for 2 days and i erased it by mistake with a rm command
00:23<xianur0n>is there any way i could get it back
00:23<xianur0n>im using debian 8 jessie
00:23<xianur0n>??
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00:38<xianur0n>omg, thanks just found a way :), it was just test file so I did a grep -i -a -B10 -A100 'filenamehere' /dev/yourpartitionhere > file
00:38<xianur0n>and the text of my scrip showed up on the file
00:38<xianur0n>hope ip might help others.
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01:06<Arthurr>cool, thanks
01:06-!-hele [~hele@212-149-210-232.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #debian
01:07<Arthurr>also , the "trash" command, is safer than rm
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01:09<Arthurr>xianur0n: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/trash-cli
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01:10<Arthurr>it makes its own trashcan in /tmp
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01:52<exoplanet>hello, does the client download AND store the "Release" file of a repo? Or is it discarded after checking?
01:52<exoplanet>(couldn't find this detail anywhere in the documentation)
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07:54<edrz>exoplanet: see /var/lib/apt/lists/
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08:11<FlashSlayer>240 MB free of 4,8 GB partition. Is Debian like Windows that uses all free space?
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08:12<bremner>would you like to try asking your question again in a less trollish way?
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08:17<SpeedyG>hi, i've been googling this a bit without much luck... every time I reboot my desktop, I have to re-set all pavucontrol configuration settings... how can I make those changes persistent accross reboots?
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08:24<musca>!bremner++
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08:31<denis>hello
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08:33<bremner>SpeedyG: iiuc, pavucontrol is suppose to persist it's settings in $HOME/.config/pulse ; so it might be a bug. I don't normally use it, so that's about all I know, could figure out.
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08:40<diego>necesito ayuda con la configuracion de bluetooth
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08:40<bremner>!es
08:40<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
08:40<diego>ok gracias
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09:03<le_chinois>lol
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10:26<ham3l>@ all hi
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10:59<alex_>Hi all !!!
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12:07<circ-user-NvXVE>Hey guys- we're at a hackathon and our Raspberry Pi doesn't work.
12:07<circ-user-NvXVE>When we run allow-hotplug, it says command not found
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12:07<bremner>!raspian
12:07<dpkg>Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/
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12:08<circ-user-NvXVE>ok
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13:10<gregf>I closed a upgrade message before I could read it all, is there a way to go back and read old ones?
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13:13<Brigo>gregf, that messages are saven in the package documentation directory, so if you know the package you can still read it.
13:14<gregf>I know it had to do with networking and ifupdown iirc
13:14<gregf>lets see if I can find it
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13:18<gregf>Brigo: Having trouble finding it, I'm on testing and it was about changes to networking with systemd and ifupdown do you have any idea where that might be?
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13:21<Brigo>gregf, not really.
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13:23<gregf>think I figured it out let me test
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13:26<russ>Hello. Does anyone know why my two routers arent able to be accessed without manually changing settings on my computer first? i have 3 routers if you include the one i'm getting the connection from . Am i not doing something with dhcp right ?
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13:32<gregf>Brigo: sorted it out, thanks for the help
13:32<Brigo>gregf, you are wellcome :)
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15:19<javier>Hello, I have a problem with a VPN connection that seems to be connected but the browser do not recongnizes it it so I cannot use the VPN
15:20<javier>I have tried with Iceweasel, chromium and konqueror and any browser recognizes it
15:20<javier>I also have changed the proxy configuration to "Without proxy", "Autodetect" and so on, and nothing changes
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15:24<zenko>javier, have you visited a website like ifconfig.io to determine whether the IP address shown is your local IP address?
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15:27<javier>I am now on that website
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15:27<javier>the IP address showed is my ISP ip address
15:27<javier>not the VPN addres
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15:32<zenko>is it a work VPN or a service? have you filled in all of the relevant fields in the network gui?
15:32<javier>It is a work VPN
15:32<javier>and yes, it seems that is connected. ifconfig command
15:33<javier>shows the tun0 connection
15:33<javier> /etc/resolv.conf now has the dns server for the vpn
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15:33<javier>it seems that it is something related to the browser or to kde global network configuration
15:33<javier>i think
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15:34<lindi->javier: "ip route"?
15:34<zenko>hmm perhaps it decides to route traffic only destined for the VPN over the VPN and the rest uses the local network for the rest? are you able to contact a server that is known inside of the VPN?
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15:35<javier>http://paste.debian.net/366348/
15:35<javier>ip route: http://paste.debian.net/366348/
15:36<lindi->javier: your default route is not going over tun0
15:36<javier>yes, I am able to contact such sever
15:36<lindi->javier: only specific networks are going over VPN
15:36<javier>yes I see...
15:37<javier>well I do not know if this is the "correct" behaviour
15:38<javier>all networks should go through the VPN?
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15:38<lindi->javier: it depends on the VPN
15:38<zenko>not neccessarily
15:38<lindi->javier: "ip route change default dev tun0" should change the routing
15:40<javier>ok
15:40<javier>thank you
15:41<javier>mm but I dont know if I should change it
15:41<lindi->javier: maybe your work VPN is meant only for accessing your work services
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15:42<javier>and one question, if I set the default dev to tun0 and I shutdown the VPN connection, the eth0 is choosed automatically
15:42<javier>?
15:42<lindi->javier: with network-manager at least yes
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15:43<lindi->javier: but "ip" command does not make permanent changes anyway, if you reboot they are gone
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15:43<javier>ahm
15:43<javier>ok
15:44<javier>It is a little bit strange
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15:44<javier>I think it should work automatically
15:44<javier>I turn back to Linux a few months ago
15:45<javier>but I remember that in the past, I configured the vpn and the browser recognizes it automatically when I visit
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15:45<javier>websites that are included in the VPN network
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15:49<javier>well thanks guys
15:49<ex-parrot>hey javier
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15:50<ex-parrot>whoops wrong window :/
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16:25<sergio-br2>updated debian testing
16:25<sergio-br2>with lxde destkop
16:25<sergio-br2>and it's not doing the log in yay
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16:27<bremner>sergio-br2: for debian testing, join #debian-next
16:27<sergio-br2>thanks
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16:32<sergio-br2>bremner, do you know what lxde uses for the login stuff?
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16:33<sergio-br2>GDM? LightDM ?
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17:00<ceps>hello
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17:04<chrishell>hello out there, I just installed ALSA sound system and no pulse Audio, but my system remains silent
17:04<chrishell>do I need pulse audio now, or any soundserver in order to enable sound
17:04<chrishell>?
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17:06<Mekong>search me
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17:08<Arcade>chrishell, what de are you using (gnome?)
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17:11<chrishell>Arcade: i3 a very slender wm
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17:14<grove>chrishell: What are you using to produce sound? Have you tried running alsamixer to check that you device isn't muted?
17:15<bremner>chrishell: you can definitely use alsa without pulse (this machine was setup that way until very recently)
17:15<chrishell>hm okay, I used indeed alsamixer, and I enabled each channel in it
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17:17<chrishell>VLC compians something like PulseAudio server connection failure, Failed to connect to the D-Bus session daemon
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17:18<bremner>chrishell: specific software may need pulse, but I seem to recall that vlc can be configured to use other things
17:20<chrishell>just realized I didn't install dbus-x11
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17:21<chrishell>VLC complains dbus interface error: Failed to connect to the D-Bus session daemon: /usr/bin/dbus-launch
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17:21<grove>chrishell: Could you try something less complicated to produce sound, aplay comes to mind
17:22<chrishell>according to apt-file this is part of dbus-x11
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17:26<chrishell>uhmmm it works now! :-[
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17:29<chrishell>it was a _very_ simple hardware problem
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17:30<chrishell>thank you for your help anywa :-)
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17:33<K-202>I measured 10000 cycle start/stop times and then cycle latencies. How to compute measurement uncertainty for clock_nanosleep()?
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17:35<onryo>I have activated 'selinux-activate' on my Jessie server. Bit odd but I can't seem to find the default policies in the repository. That is selinux-policy-default. My Wheezy machines are set up and working fine using selinux. Have the policies changed name in Jessie?
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17:38<jelly>judd: v selinux-policy-default
17:38<judd>Package: selinux-policy-default on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:0.2.20100524-7+squeeze1; wheezy: 2:2.20110726-12; sid: 2:2.20140421-9
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17:39<jelly>onryo: they were probably just too buggy during the jessie freeze process
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17:39<amacater>Backports?
17:39<user`>is there a group in debian that can use mount and umount?
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17:40<user`>i see online about a group called 'fuse'
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17:43<onryo>Oh boy, nothing like writing SELinux policies from scratch for a server. SELinux half build into Debian. To bad the other half being policies is missing.
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17:44<onryo>is half built into*
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17:48<Arcade>i have a question about debian netinstall: is there a place upon bootup for enabling ufw or running any kind of commands
17:49<Arcade>is there a file that gets processed*
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17:54<alexsander>what is the beast software do i have install after instaled linux debian 8?
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17:58<nevyn>~best
17:58<nevyn>!best
17:58<dpkg>Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis!
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18:45<MJCS>is there an entry I can add to /etc/apt/sources.list to get java 1.8 on debian? All of the tutorials I've found want you to make a package manually
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18:46<sney>changes to java licensing mean nobody can redistribute the sun java binaries
18:46<MJCS>lame
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18:47<sney>if someone is hosting debs anyway, that's 3rd party, unsupported, etc. make-jpkg is the only legit option
18:47<MJCS>oh well. Is there a prefered method to install it?
18:47<sney>!java-package
18:47<dpkg>java-package (formerly mpkg-j2se, j2se-package) provides the make-jpkg utility for creating Debian packages from manually downloaded <Java> distributions; Oracle Java 6 (update >= 10) and Oracle Java 7 are currently supported. java-package is available for Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems in <contrib>. http://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage . Where possible, use <OpenJDK> instead, ask me about <install java>.
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18:48<MJCS>ok that was the article I was reading
18:49<K-202>Can high latencies be related to automatic screen disabling (after inactivity)? Is it caused by SMI interrupts? anyone knows?
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19:08<guardian>with fail2ban 0.8.6 when doing fail2ban-client get pam-generic actionunban iptables
19:08<guardian>I'm getting an exit code of 255
19:08<guardian>and this in the log WARNING Invalid command: ['get', 'pam-generic', 'actionunban', 'iptables']
19:08<Mekong>guardian
19:08<guardian>I was pretty sure it was the proper way to get the unban action for iptables though :/ and google seems to confirm that
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19:18<rf>how to actually edit source code of a package and rebuild it?
19:19<rf>I apt-get source , then edited source, then debuild -us -uc -b - but it complains with: patch does not remove cleanly (refresh it or enforce with -f)
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19:20<rf>it uses quilt
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19:21<rf>ah you need to run "quilt refresh" ... well that was unintuitive
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19:33<user`>oh right i forgot that nobody answers in here
19:33<dcosnet>correct.
19:33<user`>very reassuring
19:33<dcosnet>not really
19:34<dcosnet>whats the question?
19:34<user`>my earlier question asked how to mount/umount without root or sudo, if there was a group i could put a user into for this
19:34<dcosnet>oh
19:34<dcosnet>hmm
19:34<dcosnet>storage group maybe
19:34<nevyn>plugdev
19:34<user`>i also have a question about binding media keys without X11, since i'm using the virtual terminal
19:34<dcosnet>^
19:34<user`>ok thanks
19:35<user`>ah i'm in plugdev
19:35<dcosnet>log out and back in
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19:35<user`>wouldnt help if i was always in plugdev
19:35<dcosnet>also if its strictly owned by uid 0 you wont be able to mount/unmount the device
19:36<user`>oh
19:36<dcosnet>assumitvly
19:36<bremner>probably you want to look at something like pmount; or the DE equivalent
19:36<user`>i'll look more into that
19:36<user`>yeah i just saw pmount mentioned in a search for plugdev
19:36<user`>>DE equivalent
19:36<dcosnet>personally i use thunar/tunar-volman
19:37<dcosnet>thunar-*
19:37<user`>yeah i spend most of my time in the terminal
19:37<dcosnet>ah
19:37<dcosnet>i spend most of my time in a modern browser
19:37<user`>hence the reason for my other question regarding media keybindings
19:37<user`>i use mpd and would like to control it without opening another terminal and typing mpc command
19:37<dcosnet>alt-f1 through f7 usually are virtual terms
19:38<user`>im aware
19:38<dcosnet>k
19:38<dcosnet>next you can use screen or tmux
19:38<user`>i do
19:38<dcosnet>then edit their configs
19:38<user`>oh, you mean execute a command from tmux
19:38<dcosnet>eh
19:39<user`>sounds hacky
19:39<dcosnet>its likely possible
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19:39<user`>i dont even know if tmux would accept those keys, but i could try if it comes to that
19:40<dcosnet>http://dcos.net/pc/screenshots/monitor-1.png
19:40<dcosnet>this screen spliting was done in screen and tmux
19:40<dcosnet>tmux as outer container
19:40<dcosnet>and mrxvt as DE terminal
19:40<dcosnet>which also has excelent hotkeys
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19:43<user`>are we even talking about the same hting
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19:43<dcosnet>hotkeys
19:43<user`>i said twice now i want to bind *media keys*
19:43<user`>play, pause, volume
19:44<dcosnet>bindings
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19:44<user`>and i see there's a way to do that with X11
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19:44<user`>doesnt help if im not using X11
19:44<dcosnet>well my screenshot is not relivant just figured you would enjoy
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19:44<user`>lol
19:44<user`>looks nice i guess
19:45<user`>personally i use unifont
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19:45<dcosnet>ah
19:45<user`>that combined with fbterm, i have a nice unicode-capable terminal
19:45<dcosnet>i went with that font for license reasons i think
19:45<user`>i havent figured out how to do 256 colours with fbterm and ssh
19:45<dcosnet>and visual apeal out of the remaining list to pick from
19:46<dcosnet>forget. built that OS around 2009
19:46<dcosnet>was not debian, was sourcemage based.
19:47<dcosnet>sourcemage is fallin far behind on current things.
19:47<dcosnet>anyway
19:47<dcosnet>edit the tmux config and search for bindings
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19:48<user`>would the binding require the prefix typed before it (ctrl-B in my case)?
19:48<user`>i suppose i should mess with tmux config more
19:48<user`>the only change i made to the config was changing $TERM to screen-256color
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19:50<dcosnet>personally i'd just screen split a music player or mixer and tab into it for key use
19:50<dcosnet>i like least effort routes
19:50<dcosnet>well, then again... i did use sourcemage for 6 years. i suppose thats not least effort.
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19:52<user`>ive had a window for ncmpcpp and alsa before, but i'd rather just have to hit a key to do it
19:52<dcosnet>ah
19:52<titoflavio37>hello
19:52<user`>the tmux route wouldnt help much since i'd still have to tab over to somewhere
19:53<user`>so that ssh doesnt catch it
19:53<dcosnet>lol
19:53<user`>right now my volume down key works as a tilde
19:53<dcosnet>ah
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19:53<user`>i think that's also true for mute, not sure
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19:53<dcosnet>i have a cherry 83 key mini keyboard. its minimal.
19:54<user`>hm
19:54<user`>let me try one thing
19:56<user`>ok i found a solution to my issue
19:56<user`>i have a corsair keyboard, ckb can handle keybindings
19:56<dcosnet>ah
19:56<user`>cool
19:56<user`>guess it's a good thing i got this keyboard lol
19:56<dcosnet>thats actually rather nice
19:57<user`>well there's one issue, i cant seem to bind media keys still
19:57<user`>just the volume
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19:59<dcosnet>ah
20:00<user`>so much for that
20:00<dcosnet>could use shift as modulator
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20:10<dcosnet>end key could be a good modulator too
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20:10<dcosnet>like end-a
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20:12<ryouma>in iceweasel suppose i want to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti2Nokoq1J4&feature=youtu.be is this possible without running flash?
20:12<ryouma>doesn't have to be iceweasel
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20:12<dcosnet>chromium maybe
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20:13<dcosnet>if its html5s webm or ogv formats
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20:13<ryouma>why not iceweasel?
20:13<dcosnet>because firefox is not updating
20:14<dcosnet>well not yet
20:14<dcosnet>they are behind last i knew
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20:14<lfam>On Stretch, I try to set less as the default pager but it fails: http://paste.lisp.org/+6JKP
20:14<dcosnet>even though its a standard
20:14<lfam>It seems that less is not registered as a pager. Is this expected?
20:14<ryouma>dcosnet: thanks
20:14<dcosnet>yup
20:14<dcosnet>good luck
20:14<ryouma>dunno if i want to watch it enough to run chromium
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20:15<dcosnet>could try iron-linux
20:15<dcosnet>its a browser
20:15<ryouma>in debian?
20:15<dcosnet>not sure 1 sec
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20:15<dcosnet>nope
20:15<dcosnet>sadly
20:16<piper>video plays fine using Firefox/46.0
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20:16<dcosnet>http://www.srware.net/software_srware_iron.php
20:17<dcosnet>piper: cool
20:17<dcosnet>ill try it soon
20:17<ryouma>38.5 here, which i think is debian stable
20:17<dcosnet>i run testing personally
20:17<piper>nightly's and sid
20:17<dcosnet>but i dont run Xorg on my debian box
20:18<dcosnet>its a firewall
20:18<dcosnet>apu1d4
20:18<dcosnet>so eh, no video out
20:18<lfam>apu2b4, here :)
20:18<dcosnet>it come out recently?
20:18<lfam>Just
20:18*dcosnet searches franticly
20:18<lfam>Lol
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20:19<dcosnet>apu2b4
20:19<dcosnet>omg
20:19<dcosnet>is quad
20:19<dcosnet>< envious
20:20<dcosnet>i have 2 actually, 1 runs pfsense, 1 runs debian/iptables
20:20<dcosnet>they stack nicely
20:21<lfam>I think the apu2c4 is coming out soon. The schematics on pcengines.ch refer to it. I think there are two errors on the PCB layout that are corrected with little wires(!)
20:21<dcosnet>you work for them?
20:21<lfam>No
20:21<dcosnet>get me on that tester list then
20:21<dcosnet>:)
20:21<dcosnet>dcos.net
20:22<lfam>I'm not a tester. They are selling the apu2b4 and it seems to work fine
20:22<dcosnet>oh
20:22<dcosnet>overlooked c
20:22<lfam>But I remember the apu1b4 and apu1c4 before the current apu1d4
20:22<lfam>It's nice that they don't just silently update the hardware
20:23<dcosnet>thats a dirty game the cell phone companies started
20:23<dcosnet>and then router companies followed
20:23<lfam>You never know what you have
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20:25<dcosnet>http://varia-store.com/index.php
20:26<dcosnet>random but just found this site looking for the apu2d4 seems good
20:27<lfam>Yeah, I guess the BIOS is still a work in progress but the basic stuff works now. And the boot order selection is working now. varia can update their page.
20:27<lfam>Once the ECC is supported then it will be an extremely nice home server for the price
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20:27<dcosnet>ah
20:28<dcosnet>ya i host dcos.net on the apu1d4
20:28<dcosnet>and it has pfsense in front of it
20:28<dcosnet>with iptables on the host debian
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20:28<dcosnet>its reliable
20:28<lfam>Glad to hear that
20:29<dcosnet>repurposed a phone battery backup system for ups
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20:29<dcosnet>without that ac to dc back to dc to ac shit
20:29<dcosnet>plain ol 12v dc ups
20:29<dcosnet>3amp
20:29<dcosnet>belkin
20:30<lfam>I've been thinking about that. A so-called "powerbank" charger?
20:30<dcosnet>its more of a capacitor in electrical engineering sense
20:30<dcosnet>but it is a 12v lead acid battery
20:30<lfam>Link?
20:31<lfam>I don't know hardware so I'm sure to buy the wrong thing otherwise
20:31<dcosnet>http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/121857419880?ul_noapp=true&chn=ps&lpid=82
20:31<dcosnet>it can handle 1 apu1d4 each
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20:31<dcosnet>and multiple lower power 12v routers
20:32<lfam>"residential gateway" Do they mean the crappy cable-model/wifi-AP that ISPs give their residential customers?
20:32<dcosnet>meh its repurposed either way
20:32<lfam>It's meant to support one of those?
20:32<lfam>Seems appropriate
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20:32<dcosnet>its 12v
20:32<dcosnet>i had to replace lead acid battery though
20:32<dcosnet>they are generally old
20:32<lfam>I meant, I'm not calling the Belkin crappy. Just the thing it's supposed to provide power too
20:33<dcosnet>yea some ISP used to give them out for phone systems
20:33<dcosnet>for 9/11 service
20:33<dcosnet>err. 911
20:33<lfam>Ah, after phone lines went "cold"
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20:33<R4F_Debian>Hi all I would like to know if there is any specific script for backup in Debian to automate the process
20:33<dcosnet>something to do with VoIP
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20:34<lfam>Cool idea! I'll look into one of these. Although, if my power goes out, won't the block's ISP infrastructure go down soon too? How long do those things usually stay up?
20:34<lfam>I guess it would be useful to keep my data safe
20:34<dcosnet>dcosnet@debfw:~$ aptitude search amanda
20:34<dcosnet>p amanda-client - Advanced Maryland Automatic Network Disk Archiver (Client)
20:34<dcosnet>p amanda-common - Advanced Maryland Automatic Network Disk Archiver (Libs)
20:34<dcosnet>p amanda-server - Advanced Maryland Automatic Network Disk Archiver (Server)
20:35<dcosnet>my ISP modem has a lithium battery backup
20:35<dcosnet>it lasts a bit less then the 12v but you can give that modem a bigger ups
20:35<dcosnet>the AC type
20:35<dcosnet>dual layered relays are tricky
20:36<dcosnet>but it works sometimes
20:36<lfam>I have a friend in SF who repurposed an old box truck into an apartment. His boyfriend built solar power systems with days of storage for lights and a fridge. I need to ask him for help :)
20:36<dcosnet>lol
20:37<dcosnet>thats cool
20:37<lfam>Yeah, cheap rent on any block ;)
20:37<dcosnet>i have an E-Bike
20:37<dcosnet>they'd likely enjoy seeing it
20:37<lfam>I have to go. Good to meet you dcosnet. See ya around
20:37<dcosnet>http://www.pinkbike.com/u/dcosnet
20:37<dcosnet>ok ttyl
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20:42<dcosnet>nice meeting you too lfam
20:43<dcosnet>i wonder if r4f_debian knew amanda app was ment for him
20:43*dcosnet shrugs
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20:52<Arroyo1010>only steers and queers come from texas, so which one are you?
20:52<dcosnet>O.o
20:52<Arroyo1010>wrong channel!
20:52<dcosnet>elaborate on steers
20:52<dcosnet>haha
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21:01<vortek>i installed unstable and nothing hardly works.. is there a way to down grade back to testing?
21:01<dcosnet>edit /etc/apt/sources.list
21:01<themill>no
21:01<dcosnet>apt-get update
21:01<dcosnet>and then safe-upgrade
21:02<themill>no, on several levels
21:02<dcosnet>so possibly ^
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21:02<vortek>i safe-upgrade??
21:02<themill>no
21:02<dcosnet>its an aptitude command
21:02<dcosnet>no idea if it will bork your box
21:02<themill>and it's not going to do anything
21:02<vortek>oh sorry]
21:03<dcosnet>well, he knows i guess
21:04<vortek>noting to upgrade with aptitude
21:04<dcosnet>ah
21:05<vortek>so i guess i have to reinstall with testing image?
21:05<dcosnet>likely
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21:05<bremner>vortek: please pick one channel, and ideally the correct one
21:05<dcosnet>never tried going back one
21:06<themill>it'd be great if you didn't recommend things that you don't have any experience of and won't actually work, then
21:06<vortek>lol
21:06<dcosnet>heh
21:07<vortek>themill, so do i have to reintstall with testing image?
21:07<vortek>onlly option?
21:07<dcosnet>can reinstall with stable and up to testing
21:07<dcosnet>same way i recommended earlier. that i know DOES work.
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