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01:45<Al_>Hello, noob here. Is jigdo faster than the bittorrent way to obtain iso files? Should I use it? Thank you.
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01:51<iflema>probably... not really... flip a coin
01:51<iflema>is jigdo still a thing?
01:52*iflema tried it once
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01:53<iflema>Al_: if you have a torrent client installed just find a link for it...
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01:54<Al_>Thank you for your answer
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01:57<Gamer1990>hello
01:57<Gamer1990>i need help
01:57<Gamer1990>https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64671
01:58<Gamer1990>i used this command "hciconfig hci0 up" as Root and rebooted, and my bluetooth works again. how do i make this fix permanent?
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02:07<nevyn>Gamer1990: that makes no sense
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02:09<Gamer1990>what do you mean
02:09<Gamer1990>it makes perfect sense
02:10<Gamer1990>my bluetooth kept timing out
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02:11<Gamer1990>if that command is used, then rebooted, it works again and is visible as "debian" instead of "foobar"
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02:11<Gamer1990>it is a kernel bug
02:11<Gamer1990>and other people are having the same issue as me
02:12<iflema>Gamer1990: you do command and then reboot?
02:12<Gamer1990>i looked up hci timeout 0x1009 tx
02:12<Gamer1990>yes
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02:12<Gamer1990>hciconfig hci0 up
02:12<iflema>and it dies when?
02:12<iflema>suspend?
02:12<Gamer1990>if i turn off my laptop
02:12<Gamer1990>it dies
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02:13<Gamer1990>and the timeout error shows up in dmesg
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02:13<iflema>huh
02:13<Gamer1990>if i shut it down, it dies too
02:13<Gamer1990>if i force it to turn off the same happens
02:13<iflema>halt it?
02:14<Gamer1990>halt what?
02:14<Gamer1990>the bluetooth or the whole machine?
02:14<iflema>m
02:14<Gamer1990>would upgrading the kernel fix the issue?
02:15<Gamer1990>i am on this kernel "3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u2"
02:16<iflema>Gamer1990: what does the debian wiki page say about bluetooth?
02:17<Gamer1990>which part exactly?
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02:18<iflema>nothing useful?
02:19<Gamer1990>no
02:20<Gamer1990>it did not mention the command+reboot root trick
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02:22<iflema>im with nevyn
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02:25<Gamer1990>beats me too
02:25<Gamer1990>i'm as stumped as you are
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02:33<vortek>hello :)
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02:35<vortek>i cant seem to write an image to my usb, i get cp: error writing ‘/dev/sdd1’: Operation not permitted
02:35<vortek>and when i try /dev/sdd i get read only file system
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02:36<vortek>the usb was writeable from windows 10
02:36<vortek>but debina dont like it.. any Ideas?
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02:36<iflema>are you looking to install or just move an image?
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02:38<iflema>i assume; seeing the sdd1 and the cp - move
02:38<iflema>oh but now i see write...
02:38<junkmechanic>most probbly he wants to create a bootable usb..
02:39<junkmechanic>use dd
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02:39<junkmechanic>vortek: ^
02:39<vortek>ok
02:39<vortek>thanxs
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02:39<iflema>hehe
02:40<junkmechanic>dont mention the partition..use sdx not sdx1 ... where x is the drive letter
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02:40<junkmechanic>and use sync to flush the buffer before you remove the usb...
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02:43<vortek>dd: failed to open ‘/dev/sdd’: Read-only file system :(\
02:43<vortek>it windows the usb was writeable with win32disk image i thiink i used
02:44<vortek>but win 10 is gone i wiped it
02:44<vortek>so i cant use win to write the image
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02:55<iflema>vortek: su/sudo
02:57<vortek>iflema same error
03:01<iflema>vortek: is it mounted
03:01<iflema>is there a switch
03:01<vortek>yes
03:01<vortek>its mounted
03:01<vortek>nno switch
03:01<iflema>umount
03:01<iflema>all
03:01<iflema>of its partitions
03:02<vortek>ok its done
03:03<vortek>same error
03:03<vortek>i wonder why win32 disk image could write it
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03:03<vortek>usualy linux has the uperhand not winblows
03:04<iflema>use another stick
03:04<iflema>next
03:04<jm_>try to find out what kernel says about it - dmesg | grep sdd
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03:06<vortek>ok
03:06<iflema>this is debian... there is no stick...
03:07<iflema>screw the iso
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03:08<vortek>jm_ Write Protect is on
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03:10<jm_>that explains it then
03:11<vortek>any way to change this?
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03:12<jm_>I think there are some tools that sometimes help - I have one USB drive where it didn't help - it has two partitions, first one is some kind of CD emulation thing, and the second one is usable normally (this is often used for promotonial stuff, that's how I got mine)
03:13<jm_>(not my primary USB stick, but good enough for grml at work)
03:13<vortek>k
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03:14<jm_>how many partitions are on it?
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03:19<vortek>2
03:20<vortek>wait how do i tell?
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03:21<vortek>one it apears
03:21<jm_>cat /proc/partitions
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03:22<vortek>sdd and sdd1
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03:26<jm_>so it's not like mine, no idea why it's marked read only
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03:29<vortek>so now idea how to write to ths usb?
03:32<jm_>nope, for me regular sticks always had write toggle switch and that helped, but that's mostly gone these days
03:33<vortek>yeah
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03:38<Linnak>Hi, I have a Lenovo Z580 laptop. I'd like to install Debian jessie on it. What drivers do i need to install manually? I just realized the broadcom wifi driver from non free repository. What else?
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03:39<jm_>which graphics driver does it need?
03:40<iflema>vortek: hdparm -r ?
03:41<Linnak>Intel integrated
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03:43<Linnak>Do I have to add contrib non-free to all three (updates and security updates as well) repositories or just to the main one?
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03:46<jm_>then you probably don't need anything additional
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03:48<Asus_>jim_ Thanks
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04:04<blackrose>hey
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04:05<krrnnkz>ho
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04:27<imathemad>goodmorning
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04:28<imathemad>does anybody know how to install ati drivers on debian?
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04:29<jm_>https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo
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04:29<aidalgol>What's the Debian equivalent of Arch's mkinitcpio? I'm trying to follow a guide for setting up initrd with uboot, but its initrd bits are Arch specific. http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=7071#p39831
04:30<jm_>update-initramfs
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04:36<imathemad>Thankss
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04:41<aidalgol>OK, so I was on the right path. Now I just need to figure out the correct incantation for this ARM Debian system...
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04:45<iflema>dpkg-reconfigure kernel-image
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04:49<iflema>dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-blah.blah use tab
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04:52<imathemad>sorry guys how to see which version of debian am i running?
04:52<imathemad>i mean jessie stretch etv etc
04:52<duclicsic>look in /etc/debian_version
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04:53<imathemad>thanks
04:54<aidalgol>iflema: Hum, this image doesn't have a kernel package...
04:54<iflema>aidalgol: err
04:54<iflema>mkinitramfs
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04:57<aidalgol>I think I may need to tweak the initrd image when building the image. https://github.com/OLIMEX/OLINUXINO/blob/master/SOFTWARE/A20/A20-build-3.4.103/A20_Olimex_kernel_3.4.103%2B_Jessie_with_camera_support_building_description.txt
04:58<lime_>lime@debbie:~/0ad$ cat /etc/debian_version stretch/sid
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04:59<aidalgol>What's an example of an ARM-based machine on which you can simply run the Debian installer as you would on an x86 PC?
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05:00<aidalgol>Because all of the ARM boards I've looked at require a similarly complex dance in order to get a Debian system up and running (excluding using pre-built images).
05:00<lime_>there is a really interesting amd server chip just released, 8 core. arm, low power, called the A1100 i think
05:01<lime_>debian installer, hmm
05:02<lime_>you're going to need a 'stage 3 install'
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05:07<iflema>oh Advanced Risc Machine...
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05:09<aidalgol>iflema: Uh, what'd you think I meant?
05:09<iflema>aidalgol: id say all are a pain (excluding pre-built disk images)
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05:12<aidalgol>blargh, boot-time LUKS...
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05:13<aidalgol>Is setting up a LUKS-encrypted home partition easier than an encrypted root fs?
05:13<aidalgol>Or is it done via exactly the same mechanism?
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05:20<themill>it's a bit harder actually, because encrypted root is done for you by the installer from the beginning while encrypted $HOME you'll have to do yourself.
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05:25<junkmechanic>is there man page that explains the different variables in sysctl ?
05:26<vortek>i got port 443 open .. it says its iceweasel , can i close this port?
05:27<junkmechanic>443 is for https traffic...yo uwont be able to connect over ssl if you close it...
05:27<vortek>oh ok
05:27<vortek>thanxs :)
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05:32<jm_>junkmechanic: kernel docs cover those
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05:33<krrnnkz>hej Johan!
05:33<junkmechanic>jm_: genrally available online...but are they available as man pages?
05:33<jm_>junkmechanic: not that I know
05:33<jm_>maybe some of them are mentioned though
05:34<junkmechanic>alright...i think i ll save a copy
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06:58<blu>hi guys. I've got a strange file access / permission problem on a client mounting via NFSv4. It seems group permissions are not evaluated somehow: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/6133046e/ is this due to some of my mount options?
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07:01<blu>could this be due to the solr user having a different uid and gid on the NFS master and slave server? I thought this wouldnt matter as I only use groups here
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07:07<blu>only happens for the NFS share on the NFS Client
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07:14<lime_>blu:I don't know but does nfs have rw access to that folder?
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08:29<PaulePanter>Hi. debootstrap fails with `chroot: failed to run command 'mount': Exec format error` when run on a Debian 8.2 (Jessie/stable) system.
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08:29<Haler1631>hello
08:29<PaulePanter>$ sudo debootstrap --arch=amd64 unstable ~/test
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08:30<PaulePanter>Sorry for the noise. I need to use `--arch=i386` on my system. That should fix it.
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09:20<lzz>magmax: you get complaints about those away messages, so turn them off
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09:54<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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10:17<JuanDosSantos>Hello, what is the common way to monitory a directory and do some action if something in this directory was changed, now I am using inotifywait that I start with init.d, is there another more elegant solution? Maybe with systemd.path?
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10:20<enrico_>hi!
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10:39<vortek>hello
10:39<vortek>did they ever fix the disk encryption vulnerability?
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10:41<duclicsic>vortek: you might have to elaborate a little
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10:43<vortek>the defualt install that lets u set up a encrypted drive.. i read thats its vulnerable
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10:44<vortek>that a user can decrypt it or that it can encrypted some how
10:44<vortek>i read it a few times about the vuln but i cant remember ware
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10:45<JuanDosSantos>found this and its perfect for me http://www.ocsmag.com/2015/09/02/monitoring-file-access-for-dummies/
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11:23<siery>Hey! Do someone knows where system sounds are stored in Debian?
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11:26<radio_nowhere>It varies by what sounds you are looking for. KDE system sounds are in /user/share/sounds/
11:26<radio_nowhere>Sorry, my bad, /usr/share/sounds/
11:26<radio_nowhere>You can look around in the /usr/share folder or maybe try locate *.ogg
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11:32<siery>thanks, thats what i been looking for C:
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11:33<siery>I have one more question about locations in debian
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11:35<siery>Where can i change the directory where devices are mounting? Since i install graphical desktop devices are automatically mounting at ~/media
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11:40<radio_nowhere>That I don't know. You might need a custom fstab entry or udisks rule.
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12:03<finiteBubbles33>Say that I am working in a container environment with little to no tooling installed. Is there a prebuilt vim version somewhere I can download & run as a single executable file? Linux/64 flavor.
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12:07<phoe>Hey! Is it possible to install Krita in debian sid right now? It complains about missing dependencies, for example, libilmbase6 - but that is replaced by libilmbase6v5 which I have installed. And I can't remove libilmbase6v5 because a lot of other things depend on it.
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12:11<brlancer>What could cause oom-killer to not log? (rsyslog is still running)
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12:13<retrospectacus>phoe: sid support is in #debian-next
12:14<phoe>retrospectacus: thanks!
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12:17<trico>im trying to install debian, using the automatic partitioning, and its saying there is no efi partition. should i make one or just redo this install as BIOS?
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14:03<guardmoony>evening all
14:03<guardmoony>got a small problem / question
14:04<mtn>!ask
14:04<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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14:10<guardmoony>Got a problem doing ssh from srv1 to srv2. both run wheezy 8.2 openssh. i can connect with putty to srv2.
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14:14<guardmoony>hmmm just thought of something.
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14:17<retrospectacus>see !ask
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14:21<noname>hola
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14:22<k>!es
14:22<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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14:33<Shentino>Hey guys
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14:45<Arcade>Hi there I am trying to use this command #sudo npm install -g yo generator-code and keep getting sh: 1: node: not found
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14:48<finiteBubbles33>Arcade: You need to install nodejs first. If installed from the package manager, it might be named nodejs instead of node, in which case a simple symlink in /usr/local/bin will do the trick.
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14:49<K-202>Hi. possible to switch from TSC to HPET without reboot in Deban 8?
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14:49<bremner>from who to what?
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14:49<K-202>bremner, TSC and HPET are electronic sources of time for system timers
14:50<K-202>TSC is default but HPET has more precision
14:50<bremner>ok.
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14:56<Arcade>finiteBubbles33, ok. I think I see the issue (may look into not using this package). I got bootstrap to work. Looks like using VS code is a pain in the butt.
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15:04<finiteBubbles33>Arcade, what do you mean by "VS code"?
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15:16<AB>jemand da?
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15:17<AB>kann mir jemand mit dem bootloader helfen?
15:17<musca>hello AB
15:17<musca>!de
15:17<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
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15:17<AB>ou sry
15:17<AB>thx
15:17<musca>no problem
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15:52<Arcade>finiteBubbles33, visual studio code by MS.
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16:21<itp>hello, how to enable in gnome 3 desktop sharing to terminal? thanks
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16:22<morelikedoor>itp, what do you mean by sharig to terminal? :)
16:23<itp>sorry for my bad english, i want remote desktop
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16:23<rf>itp: how about using openvnc? google it
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16:24<itp>i know vnc
16:24<rf>be aware, vnc is very insecure unless tunneled over ssh or something, it's password is useless
16:24<rf>s/it's/its
16:25<itp>i use in my local network
16:25<itp>it's a curiosity
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16:29<Shentino>jelly: Shoudl I assume that this GB vs GiB thing hasn't been reported yet and to go ahead and email?
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16:31<satbyy>itp: you can also check out remmina or rdesktop
16:32<Ironhand>hello, is there a way to configure a Debian repository in a local filesystem, in such a way that it is sufficient to run debootstrap off of, and without locally mirroring the entire release/arch?
16:33<itp>i know remmina or rdesktop is a client
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16:34<itp>whan i go to gnome > screen sharing> remote control on is a graphical mode
16:34<itp>i want try to enable or disable in terminal
16:35<itp>on/off
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16:37<rf>itp: turning it on/off does work good in the GUI?
16:37<rf>itp: maybe ask also in #gnome
16:38<itp>in the GUI works very well
16:38<itp>but i prefer terminal
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16:39<itp>i connect to #gnome irc but no response...
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16:41<itp>for example i install local GUI server i can connect to ssh and enable vnc mode in 2 click
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16:48<rf>itp: you should SSH to the target server, and there run the VNC server program
16:48<rf>itp: something like: SCREEN=:0 vnc4server or something... google examples
16:49<rf>itp: when the vnc process is running on the remote server, then you can use vnc client to connect to it
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16:51<itp>it"s the same for example: $ vncsever:1 -geometry 800x600 -depth 24
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16:52<itp>gnome 3 use similar process in GUI mode?
16:52<rf>itp: I think so, yes, some kind of VNC server
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16:52<rf>itp: do not forget you need DISPLAY=:0 or somethig
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16:53<itp>ok i understand thak you very mutch rf
16:53<rf>no prob
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16:56<retrospectacus>or just use ssh -X to display remote programs locally and forget about vnc
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16:57<itp>yes i use for example $shh -X root@ip
16:57<itp>ssh*
16:58<retrospectacus>not root
16:58<itp>user
16:58<itp>it's dangerous in root mode
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16:59<K-202>Okay, I typed echo "hpet" > /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/current_clocksource but how to make sure HPET is used, not TSC?
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17:01<petn-randall>K-202: cat that file, and see the output (my guess)
17:01<K-202>petn-randall, it says "hpet" but I don't know if system can change its clock source during working
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17:04<petn-randall>K-202: Check the permissions on this file. Only root can write to it. So unless you have installed something that specifically changes it as root, it will stay the same.
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17:08<K-202>well, it seems to work, the latency is much higher while performing realtime computations
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17:18<K-202>Maybe it's better to force "execution thread" on CPU0 and "communication threads" on CPU1?
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17:27<rf>K-202: if you are interested in linux latency, check out the "CK" patches to linux kernel too
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17:28<K-202>rf, does it provide lower latencies compared to http://rt.wiki.kernel.org/ ?
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17:30<rf>K-202: I'm not sure, but CK used to be far better then vanilla kernel afaik
17:30<rf>K-202: best you try it and tell us :)
17:30<K-202>rf, I have ended my thesis (except research results) but if I keep going with realtime, I will try it
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17:39<rf>K-202: neat
17:39<Gamer1990>can someone please help me?
17:39<mtn>!ask
17:39<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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17:40<Gamer1990>i'm having an issue with virtualbox
17:40<Gamer1990>i'm running debian stretch/sid 64-bit
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17:41<mtn>Gamer1990: #debian-next is for testing/sid support
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17:43<K-202>one more question - i changed CPU governor to echo "performance" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_governor
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17:43<K-202>lscpu shows maximum freq but fan is silne
17:43<K-202>*silent
17:43<K-202>does it mean CPU freq is in real highest possible or it shows wrong?
17:44<nevyn>K-202: fan will be controlled by thermal
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17:45<nevyn>and millions of noops a second while more power than sleeping... still isn't much power/heat
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17:49<K-202>my laptop has power saving mode in bios but i wonder if disabling it can help with latency
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17:51<nevyn>what's the latency problem?
17:51<nevyn>biab
17:52<K-202>nevyn, it's non-zero
17:52<K-202>and sometimes over 10 ms - maybe caused by smi interrupts
17:53<Gamer1990>i know this issue is for sid/stretch but i want to paste the links here because i'm not getting a response
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17:53<Gamer1990>http://paste.debian.net/366539/ & http://paste.debian.net/366540/
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18:19<nevyn>K-202: with -rt?
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18:20<nevyn>K-202: 0 isn't realistinc
18:20<K-202>nevyn, -rt prefix is currently not required but if you ask for RT-Preempt patch - yes
18:20<nevyn>unles syou're doing silly things with no_hz
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18:20<nevyn>you'd need to do all the ho_hz things
18:20<nevyn>and then SMI can still screw you
18:21<K-202>nevyn, you mean spinlocks? and avoid nanosleep/clock_nanosleep?
18:21<nevyn>K-202: no I mean you'd have to move interrupts to a cpu with processor affinity
18:22<nevyn>then bind the app to dedicated cpu's that arn blah blah blah
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18:22<nevyn>K-202: what's the application requirement?
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18:38<K-202>nevyn, no time requirements, just to minimize latencies as most as possible
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18:44<nevyn>for why?
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18:44<nevyn>you realise that low latency systems achieve less right?
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18:45<nevyn>low latency also means lower throughput than theoretically possible
18:46<Marillion>K-202: but RT isn't endless scaleable, i mean if you have low CPU power and to much processes/threads
18:47<nevyn>so there's a few techniques.
18:47<nevyn>but they're all compromises.
18:47<nevyn>you can now with NO_Hz_FULL dedicate cpu cores to apps and never have them run interrupts
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18:48<nevyn>SMI is still whoknows tho
18:48<nevyn>because we don't see that code
18:48<nevyn>but we're in really essoteric configuration land
18:48<Marillion>and offtopic ;)
18:49<nevyn>how?
18:49<nevyn>assuming K-202 is running debian.
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18:49<Marillion>this discussion is foreward is to debian-offtopic
18:50<nevyn>fine
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19:10<bkuhn>Greetings! I'm an experienced Debian user, but setting up a machine for my wife with GNOME. It's a default jessie install. Previously, I *thought* setting her up with full sudo would Cause Synaptic to prompt her for her own password, not the root password.
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19:11<nevyn>bkuhn: the mechinism used is controlled by su-to-root which is part of menu
19:11<nevyn>I think you can override it to use gsudo/whatever using a .sutorootrc or something
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19:11<bkuhn>ah hm
19:11<bkuhn>I will research gsudo and su-to-root
19:11<bkuhn>That's a helpful step
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19:12<zykotick9>isn't it gksudo?
19:12<nevyn>bleh of course.
19:12<bkuhn>But in my experience in wheezy for her (I just installed a new jessie machine)...
19:13<nevyn>bkuhn: is menu installed?
19:13<bkuhn>... it would prompt for her password, and it's prompting for roots
19:13<bkuhn>let me see.
19:13<bkuhn>standby....
19:13<petn-randall>bkuhn: She also needs to be in the sudo group for that. Maybe that's missing?
19:13<bkuhn>No, it wasn't, installing that now
19:13*bkuhn checks to see if she's in sudo group
19:14<bkuhn>(I configured her with sudo ALL: ALL)
19:14<bkuhn>so I don't think the sudo group thing is it
19:14<bkuhn>but might as well look
19:14<petn-randall>Also, the user needs to log out and in after you added the user to sudo.
19:14<bkuhn>One of those things worked. :)
19:14<nevyn>bkuhn: su-to-root may use it for the detection mechinism (I don't think it's so smart as to use sudo -l (not that it could because that would require authentication)
19:14<nevyn>)
19:14<zykotick9>petn-randall: or newgrp i think...
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19:15<nevyn>bkuhn: looking forward to your talk btw :)
19:15<nevyn>lca couple of weeks
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19:16<bkuhn>Thanks!
19:16<bkuhn>Ok, so now I've done a lot of things
19:16<bkuhn>I think installing menu is what worked
19:16<bkuhn>I'm going to back out changes with the sudo access I gave her
19:16<bkuhn>and limit it more
19:16<bkuhn>and see if it stillw orks
19:16<bkuhn>Thank you all for your help!
19:16<nevyn>np
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19:51<magyar>hi, how can I disable ipv6 on jessie?
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19:56<petn-randall>!tell magyar -about noipv6
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19:59<intruder>hi, I'm back to using i3 and I wondered why the notion of parent/child window seemed so important for this wm, anyone can explain the appeal ? By default if I open three terminals and I move focus back on the first, the 2nd one is highlighted like its something important to know
20:00<intruder>aren't child windows usually dialogs and preferences windows, then floating already
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20:10<magyar>thanks petn-randall
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20:17<Sm0k3y13>hello i'm having issues with python. can i get some assistance?
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20:22<petn-randall>magyar: you're welcome
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20:27<piMii>Hello
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20:50<piMii>If I have a bluetooth adapter that is recognized by alsa but only works when recording. So I installed pulse. Do I have to load my bluetooth modules for it to work?
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20:59<nevyn>piMii: they should load by default if they're installed
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21:02<nevyn>piMii: ensure that pulseaudio-module-bluetooth is installed
21:02<piMii>nevyn, Well now that I've installed pulse, the recording doesn't work any longer.
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21:02<nevyn>'the recording' lacks context
21:02<nevyn>piMii: did you configure it?
21:03<nevyn>!pulseaudio
21:03<dpkg>PulseAudio (formerly Polypaudio) is a cross-platform network sound server, intended as a drop-in replacement for <ESD>. Packaged for Debian since 4.0 "Etch", read /usr/share/doc/pulseaudio/README.Debian after installation for configuration recommendations; Debian specific how-to is at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=12497 . http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/FAQ http://pulseaudio.org/ #pulseaudio on irc.freenode.net.
21:03<piMii>just using audacity to make sure that playback and recording are working properly. I was originally using ALSA and the recording part worked fine but no playback
21:04<nevyn>from your bluetooth headset?
21:04<piMii>I'll keep messing around and I'll be back when I break it further :P
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21:04<piMii>yes
21:05<nevyn>piMii: so why did you install pulse?
21:05<nevyn>oh
21:05<piMii>It operates over bluetooth but it has an adapter that works over usb. It is recognized by the kernel and ALSA just fine
21:05<nevyn>you couldn't work out how to output to it
21:05<piMii>nevyn, yes this is true
21:05<nevyn>so pulse will make this trivial
21:05<nevyn>follow the debian specific howto above
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21:06<nevyn>http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=12497
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21:07<piMii>nevyn, thank you.
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21:10<piMii>nevyn, I should have mentioned this first (didn't think it was an issue since I believe it runs debian) I'm using a rPi so some of the packages aren't in the repos
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21:18<nevyn>!rasbian
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21:20<nevyn>piMii: that stuff will work but !raspbian
21:20<nevyn>!raspberian
21:20<nevyn>!raspbian
21:20<dpkg>Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/
21:20<nevyn>stuppid spelling
21:21<piMii>nevyn, haha
21:21*piMii givve nevyn high five
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