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---Logopened Tue Jan 19 00:00:11 2016
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00:30<k-man>what does debian do about automounting usb drives by default? does it attempt to auto mount them? on my system they don't seem to auto mount
00:31<themill>Are you using some desktop environment?
00:31<k-man>xfce4
00:31<themill>I don't believe that has any sort of _auto_mounter but it should mount things for you in one click.
00:31<k-man>hmm
00:31<k-man>ok
00:33<themill>(I'm not an xfce user though...)
00:34<k-man>themill, in the file explorer, i get this error when i click on the device: http://sprunge.us/QZMQ
00:34<k-man>oh
00:34<k-man>well
00:34<themill>do you have a reboot pending?
00:34<themill>!reboot required
00:34<dpkg>If you've upgraded your kernel package you need to reboot to start running the new kernel. Unless the <kernel abi> has changed, uname -r doesn't tell you whether this is needed or not, instead compare /proc/version to the package version: if ! grep -q $(dpkg-query -f'${Version}' -W linux-image-$(uname -r)) /proc/version; then echo "Reboot required"; fi
00:35<k-man>oh... maybe
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00:35<k-man>that could well be it, thanks
00:36<themill>that can prevent you from modprobing the module for the filesystem which seems to be the issue here
00:36<k-man>yep thanks
00:36<k-man>rebooting now
00:44<k-man>yay, it works
00:44<k-man>thanks themill
00:44<themill>no worries
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01:32<xianur0n>I have a question. well, this is whats going on. I am log in as a regular user. Debian 8 jessie. and any time i downloads anything from icewesel it goes to the ROOT home directory
01:33<xianur0n>why is that and how can i solve it?
01:33<xianur0n>id
01:35<nevyn>xianur0n: how did you launch iceweasel?
01:35<xianur0n>from the dock
01:36<xianur0n>it could've been while i was log in as root
01:36<xianur0n>you think that would do it
01:36<nevyn>only if you launched the dock as root
01:36<nevyn>ps -ef|grep iceweasel at a commandline
01:36<xianur0n>mm no
01:36<nevyn>who's running iceweasel?
01:37<xianur0n>root
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01:37<xianur0n>somehow it got started by root
01:37<xianur0n>makes sence
01:37<xianur0n>i think we figured out
01:37<xianur0n>thanks
01:38<nevyn>that's why it's saving stuff in root's home dir
01:39<xianur0n>thanks nevyn
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02:34<Guest1036>exit
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02:35<foffa>Hello
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02:36<foffa>who's online ?
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02:41<Stummi>no one is online
02:44<foffa>only me and you
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02:46<Hydroxide>most US and European time zones are currently asleep, just going to sleep, or just waking up right now. (I'm in the "just going to sleep" category.)
02:46<jm_>only true for slackers from EU :)
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02:47<Hydroxide>jm_: a night owl in BST or WEST and maybe even in CEST might still be waking up, commuting, or settling in at work :)
02:47<krrnnkz>Most of Europe is at work now
02:48<grove>foffa: Why do you care? This is a technical channel, people ask questions and if one of those that look in the channel can answer it he/she does - And what is the definition of online? I run irssi in a screen on a vps, and am normally connected to that during work hours, but most of that time I'm not watching that window
02:48<Hydroxide>and in our industry late-shifted schedules in europe are more common because of the more frequent need to collaborate with Americas time zones, many of which also include night owls
02:48<Hydroxide>grove: please give the benefit of the doubt - people may be new to this pattern
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02:48<Hydroxide>grove: but yes, good summary of how many of us operate :)
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02:49<krrnnkz>I work more with China
02:49<Hydroxide>krrnnkz: sure, that would of course be different
02:49<krrnnkz>fortunately, they're used to working late
02:49<krrnnkz>:)
02:49<Hydroxide>:)
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02:52<quietone>hi, an old wheezy box has stopped connecting to wifi. Connecting by cable it can't access internet.
02:52<quietone>dns seems ok.
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02:53<quietone>not sure what to try
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02:53<jm_>why does ethernet not work then?
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02:55<quietone>jm_, I wish I knew. The box can access the router, the local machines but nothing past the router.
02:55<jm_>quietone: so you can ping the router? what's the default gw set to on the box?
02:58<quietone>jm_, just noticed that the box has the wrong ip address. I'll sort that out now.
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02:59<foffa>at first i'm not good at English and i hope you can know what i'm talking about ... and my question is How to shrink an ext4 partition
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03:00<foffa>its single partition
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03:10<foffa>How to Add ubuntu ppa repository to Debian jessie
03:10<jm_>don't
03:11<jm_>as for your FS question - there's resize2fs tool
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03:11-!-Yst is "Yst Dawson" on #php #ahmia #guardianproject #moocows #oftc #debian-offtopic #debian-next #tor #debian #
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03:12<foffa>how to install UNetbootin on debian jessie
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03:13<jm_>why do you want to use unetbootin?
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03:14<foffa>i want create a bootable usb for gparted so i can resize the ext4 partition
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03:16<jm_>as in gparted-live.iso? just dump it directly on the drive, be very very careful it's correct drive
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03:36<foffa>jm_ thank you
03:36<jm_>no worries
03:37<foffa>another questions is there a software center for debian jessie ?
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03:40<p0rk0ff>hi, why all these errors on an "aptitude changelog bash"? http://paste.debian.net/plainh/1e3435b4
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03:41<p0rk0ff>(on debian testing though, if it matters)
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03:45<themill>p0rk0ff: did you recently upgrade apt? Perhaps run apt-get update again to see if it changes the permissions on that directory itself.
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03:51<p0rk0ff>themill, the system is already freshly upgraded to the latest updates...
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03:52<themill>that's not why I'm suggesting that
03:53<p0rk0ff>themill, oh sorry, it's that i run an aptitude update few minutes ago
03:53<p0rk0ff>i'm going to retry
03:54<themill>The permissions on that directory have changed in a recent apt; I don't know why yours are wrong but apt is then unhappy about them
03:54<p0rk0ff>nope always the same
03:55<p0rk0ff>how could i fix? a dpkg-reconfigure?
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04:00<grove>p0rk0ff: qustion about testing belong in #debian-next, you might get better help there
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04:02<p0rk0ff>grove, yess i'll try there
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04:41<sauron_>hi
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04:42<sauron_>hey there
04:45<duclicsic>!ask
04:45<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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04:47<jelly>Shentino: you should check the currently open bugs, and report it if it's not already present
04:47<Shentino>ty
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05:13<piti>Hi there. I have a question about a nfs server/client: I have an export on a nfs server, and for a reason, the uid/gid numbers on this export is not known by the server. idmapd is already configured to map our ldap, but those uids/gids are external.
05:13<piti>What's happen is that on the client, I attempt a rsync -a as root from a remote (it comes from another institute) share to that first share, and it seems that the server refuses writes
05:14<piti>I guess that's because the server has no idea of who is behind that uid numbers, but didn't found any doc about that behaviour
05:15<piti>do someone has any hint for me ?
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05:29<kiranos_>http://debian.org/
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05:29<kiranos_>doesnt go to www.debian.org
05:29<kiranos_>https://debian.org/
05:29<kiranos_>shows errors
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05:30<kiranos_>the pointers for debian.org and www.debian.org goes to different servers
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05:31<kiranos_>the A pointer for debian.org has 7 ip in round robin
05:31<kiranos_>while www only have 2
05:34<themill>there's geo-ip based dns views in action
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05:35<themill>kiranos_: an extension of this earlier work: https://dsa.debian.org/dsablog/2009/06/Setting_up_GeoDNS_for_security.debian.org/
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05:45<kiranos_>themill: ok I get 128.31.0.62 and its not showing the correct site
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05:46<kiranos_>http://128.31.0.62/
05:47<kiranos_>^that is what I get when I go to debian.org
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05:52<duclicsic>kiranos_: going to http://debian.org/ just results in a 301 redirect to http://www.debian.org/
05:52<duclicsic>tested on that IP
05:52<duclicsic>seems fine
05:54<duclicsic>kiranos_: if you see "Welcome to mirror-csail" it would suggest your browser is not following redirects or something
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05:55<kiranos_>duclicsic: it works for me now aswell
05:55<kiranos_>so it must have been fixed
05:56<duclicsic>ah
05:56<duclicsic>guess so
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06:25<tuv>I've setup squid-deb-proxy, but it does not appear to recognize files across debian mirrors, so the same file, when requested from different mirrors, is retrieved again. Does apt-cacher-ng have the same limitation?
06:25<tuv>and more generally, any experience or recommendations for squid-deb-proxy vs apt-cacher-ng?
06:26<bremner>well, I've used, and mostly ignored apt-cacher-ng with httpredir.debian.org. I'm not sure if that counts as different mirrors or not
06:28<tuv>actually, squid-deb-proxy breaks with httpredir.debian.org because httpredir is really an HTTP redirect to a different domain that must be listed in squid-deb-proxy conf - otherwise you get an error
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06:29<themill>You can teach acng how to map hostnames to be identical mirrors. It comes with a stack of mappings it knows about to start with and you can trivially teach it more
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06:29<themill>(/etc/apt-cacher-ng/remap.conf fiwiw)
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06:42<foffa>how to fix this error in terminal E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
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06:50<gaetanov62>Hi, what should I install to have printer settings in control center?
06:50<gaetanov62>on mate-desktop
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06:54<themill>foffa: that's a sign that you have another apt, aptitude, synaptic, unattended-upgrades, ... also running
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07:02<tuv>so is apt-cacher-ng preferred over squid-deb-proxy?
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07:03<themill>only in the same way vi might be preferred over emacs
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07:05<foffa>themill thank you
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07:08<tuv>this seems to be the squid solution: http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/Redirectors#Using_a_re-writer_to_mangle_the_URL_as_it_passes
07:09<tuv>was hoping for an out-of-the-box solution for squid-deb-proxy in particular
07:09<tuv>i guess i'll try apt-cacher-ng - although squid-deb-proxy seems to be working very well otherwise
07:11<fabian>On a fresh jessie install, all qt apps appear black in openbox. I have no .Xresources file. Any ideas?
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07:27<tuv>out of curiosity, anyone here uses squid-deb-proxy?
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08:30<inkbottle>Hi, in modern sources.list, should I use "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ unstable main" or "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main"?
08:31<peter1138>unstable isn't jessie, so...
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08:31<themill>doesn't matter -- the d.n service isn't likely to go away any time soon. (assuming you didn't mean 'unstable' vs 'jessie')
08:32<inkbottle>yes you assumed correctly
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08:33<peter1138>the installer still picks localised adresses
08:33<peter1138>+d
08:33<inkbottle>by "d.n" you mean "http.debian.net"?
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08:35<inkbottle>OK, I can see here some guidelines: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianGeoMirror
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10:43<kiranos_>anyone know why https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=exabgp is not in jessie? would be nice otherwise to have it through backports
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10:52<grove>kiranos_: https://packages.qa.debian.org/e/exabgp/news/20140804T163916Z.html
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10:54<grove>(just a few clicks from the page you were on: any version, "Developer Information (PTS)" from the menu at the right side and then the "REMOVED from testing" in the news box
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10:56<kiranos_>grove: thanks
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11:16<TaTuMT>help
11:17<k>!ask
11:17<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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11:57<anonymous>salve
11:57<anonymous>come va
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11:57<anonymous>qualche italiano
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11:58<zumbi>!it
11:58<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
11:58<anonymous>ok
11:58<anonymous>grazie mille
11:59<zumbi>prego
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12:09<foffa>How to install BZ2 files
12:10<zykotick9>foffa: would this make sense to you "How to install ZIP files"? BZ2 is a compression...
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12:13<foffa>zykotick9, i'm extremely noob in linux =D
12:13<petn-randall>foffa: BZ2 is a compression type. So you probably have an archive of some kind. I'm guessing it's the source code to some piece of software you'd like to install.
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12:14<foffa>i extracted the bz2 file now what ? how to install it
12:15<mtn>foffa: are you sure the package manager does not have what you want or something like it? that is the best way to install software in debian
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12:15<zykotick9>foffa: i'd be sure you have reviewed https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian prior to manually installing things... best of luck
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12:17<blast007>foffa: what are you trying to install?
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12:18<zumbi> /win goto alee
12:18<zumbi>err
12:18<retrospectacus>foffa: the best answer is "don't". If you think you need to, then you read and follow the installation instructions that came with it
12:19<foffa>petn-randall, thanks
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12:20<foffa>mtn, thanks man you are right :D
12:20<mtn>foffa: welcome
12:20<foffa>blast007, im traying to install vuze
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12:23<blast007>foffa: I'd recommend looking at an alternative like transmission, rtorrent, or deluge
12:23<petn-randall>foffa: Use the package manager. Debian comes with 40,000+ packages of software installable out of the box. You seldomly need to install by hand.
12:23<retrospectacus>,v vuze
12:23<judd>Package: vuze on amd64 -- squeeze: 4.3.0.6-1.1; wheezy: 4.3.0.6-5; sid: 4.3.0.6-5
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12:26<zykotick9>retrospectacus: just fyi, "Backporting package vuze in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie."
12:26<retrospectacus>could probably just install the .deb
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12:27<blast007>"Currently, starting vuze results in a big empty window and the vuze process using ~80% of the time of one CPU." (with version 4.3.0.6-5) https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724867
12:27<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/724867 in vuze (open, confirmed, jessie, sid, stretch): «Main window is empty, apparent busy-loop»; severity: grave; opened: 2013-09-29; last modified: 2015-04-28.
12:27<foffa>i have another question How to edit and update my source.list
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12:27<retrospectacus>foffa: debian has plenty of great torrent programs; just use another one
12:28<blast007>foffa: what are you needed to modify/add to it?
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12:28<zykotick9>foffa: be careful! fyi, a quick command line shortcut is "apt edit-sources"
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12:56<gromit33>hola
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12:57<gromit33>alguien habla español?'
12:57<retrospectacus>!es
12:57<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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13:02<gromit33>gracias
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13:31<jean_>what profile does kde login session executes. After an update I am losing my environment variables. I have: .login, .bash_profile, .bashrc and none are getting executed by the login session
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13:32<R4F_Debian>Hi all
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13:32<bremner>!next
13:32<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
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15:46<The>hello
15:46<The>?
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15:46<The>Any one Here
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17:27<case>Hello, where can I ask questions ? I am having difficulties installing a program.
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17:27<PovAddict>here
17:29<case>I am trying to install Network Traffic Monitor from a .tar.gz archive. After extracting it I can't run ./configure or any make command... says they're not installed. Any clues
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17:30<peter1138>they're probably not installed...
17:30<teward>case: what is stated as not installed?
17:32<case>I'm trying to ./configure, says no such file or directory. I was trying sudo ./configure before.
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17:36<retrospectacus>case: that is not usually how you install things. We recommend to use the package manager, and not attempt to use software that is not provided by the debian repositories
17:37<satbyy_>case: is it open source ? do u have a link to tar.gz ?
17:37<retrospectacus>case: we cannot support such non-debian software; you can try contacting the developer for help with installation
17:38<retrospectacus>case: at the most basic, it is saying there is no file called "configure" in your current directory.
17:39<teward>case: ... which means that either it doesn't have a configure file, or you're not in the correct directory (remember to 'cd' to the extracted directory), or you have to generate the configure file (some things come with an automake script), etc.
17:39<PovAddict>if you ran 'sudo ./configure' and it succeeded, you now created a permission mess with files owned by root
17:39<teward>case: though, you should be reading upstream instructions and such to compile such things
17:39<PovAddict>'sudo' is not a magical "make things work" word
17:39<case>It's a GUI to limit bandwidth usage on my computer. I've found it here http://askubuntu.com/questions/112291/gui-app-for-bandwidth-shaping-internet-speed-limiter . I'd be happy to install it from the package manager, but I couldn't find it.
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17:39<teward>'ask ubuntu' for Debian >.<
17:40<retrospectacus>are you even running debian?
17:40<teward>retrospectacus: what distribution are you on?
17:40<case>Yes, of course I am. I tought you could install .tar.gz on Deb as well
17:40<teward>erm
17:40<teward>case ^
17:40<teward>mishighlight heh
17:40<retrospectacus>np
17:40<PovAddict>erm
17:41<PovAddict>that application is written in Python, no wonder ./configure doesn't work
17:41<teward>heh
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17:41<satbyy_>case: tar xf ntm-1.3.1.tar.gz && cd src && ./install.sh
17:41<PovAddict>satbyy_: did you even see what install.sh does?
17:42<satbyy_>aaand yeah, this is #debian, not ubuntu or python
17:42<satbyy_>PovAddict: lol, no
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17:42<satbyy_>PovAddict: wonderful app, what a way to install
17:43<PovAddict>satbyy_: now take a look at http://sourceforge.net/p/netramon/code/ci/master/tree/build/deb_base/DEBIAN/ because clearly debian source packages are for suckers :P
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17:44<satbyy_>PovAddict: oh dear, i need eye bleach.
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17:44<teward>MY EYES >.<
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19:18<bock>what can I do if a fullscreen wine application (such as a game) completely froze and won't release the input devices?
19:18<bock>computer still responds to pings
19:18<PovAddict>Ctrl-Alt-F1 should get you a terminal
19:21<PovAddict>I have a server that seems to have lost IPv6 connectivity
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19:21<PovAddict>but apps still try to use IPv6 and get stuck waiting
19:21<PovAddict>how do I turn IPv6 off? remove eth0's inet6 address?
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19:22<melmiwaberi>rip ian murdock
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19:45<poz2k4444>hi guys, can anybody help me with a problem? when i try to use startx or xinit it says it cannot find /dev/tty0, this is because that file belongs to root, so with i root i can do that but i cant with my current user
19:45<poz2k4444>how can a fix this?
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19:50<bock>PovAddict, nope, it doesn't. Wine has completely grabbed keyboard and mouse and hung
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19:55<petn-randall>poz2k4444: Usually you install a login manager and let that take care of everything.
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19:57<bremner>poz2k4444: are you sure this is debian stable? there is a related issue in testing/unstable, but #debian-next is the channel for that
19:57<petn-randall>poz2k4444: Oh, you crossposted. :/
19:57<petn-randall>bremner: Same question in #debian-next ...
19:57*bremner sighs deeply, considers doing real work instead
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20:01<poz2k4444>sorry guys, the thing is they are not answering in debian-next
20:01<poz2k4444>:(
20:01<PovAddict>so?
20:01<K-202>If you remember our realtime discussion, with max CPU speed (if it was max in real) results were worse than with dynamic freq.
20:01<PovAddict>"I tried to buy a Renault in a Renault shop, but there were no salesmen available, so I came into this Ford shop. Why won't you sell me a Renault?!"
20:02<poz2k4444>:/
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20:10<petn-randall>poz2k4444: Crossposting produces a lot of extra work on the volunteer side, that's why it's frowned upon. Always try to ask in the proper channel, and if you're not sure, ask if the topic is right channel.
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20:11<petn-randall>I'm just trying to explain the reaction of PovAddict for you.
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20:13<poz2k4444>okok, sorry for this, im kinda desperate cause i cant figure it out by myself and I need to do some work :/
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20:17<nevyn>K-202: still not sure what you're trying to achieve.
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20:46<twb>$boss wants me to run jessie on bleeding-edge hardware
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20:46<twb>For boring live-boot reasons, I can't use jessie bpo kernel without a bit of work.
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20:47<twb>I'm trying to make X go on a 8086:22b1, which https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Intel says needs linux 4.2+.
20:47<twb>My question is: does it *also* need a newer-than-Jessie xorg? Because I don't want to fix live-boot only to find Xorg is still too old
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21:44<k-man>its a good question
21:44<k-man>i have no idea
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21:52<twb>I'm doing testing now
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21:52<twb>I got knobbled because live-boot doesn't actually work on kernels >3.16
21:53<twb>(AFAICT because dba switched from aufs to overlayfs with no transition period)
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21:53<themill>such is the story of union filesystems
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21:54<twb>themill: pretty annoying that aufs patches were dropped from debian's kernels before live-boot actually worked with overlayfs -- considering the aufs was merged in in the first place, for live-boot
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21:55<twb>Maybe keeping it merged was painful, I dunno.
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21:59<k-man>is there some way to get xfce-terminal to display the current command in the title, or maybe hard code a title on certain instances, like the one where i run IRC for instance
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21:59<k-man>oh, you can set the title from the menus
22:00<twb>OK I got the rootfs to come up, but something is making it reboot immediately
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22:00<twb>Probably some security feature I built in to stop inmates being naughty
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22:01<themill>That'll be the «if face_detect twb.png; then reboot; fi» that we include in the initramfs.
22:01<twb>They actually asked for that
22:01<PovAddict>kmem russian roulette is more fun
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22:02<twb>I was like "how do you plan to support inmates with a glass eye, or no nose"
22:03<twb>protip: before you commit a crime, build a brick bbq pit in your yard.
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22:05<k-man>why?
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22:07<nevyn>they're awesome.
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22:08<twb>k-man: it wears off your prints for weeks/months
22:09<twb>(Unless you use gloves like a wuss)
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22:09<PovAddict>I wanted to make a fingerprint-authenticated ssh agent with my iPhone
22:09<twb>OK so PrisonPC kiosks now working on "gen8" 8086:22b1 intel graphics
22:09<PovAddict>but it seems I can't make it as secure as I wanted
22:10<twb>The only problem being that the hw clock is set to year 2061, I can't change it in UEFI, and the watchdog reboots before linux sets it.
22:10<twb>Aha, I can set the UEFI clock in "easy mode" but not in "advanced mode". Stupid UEFI wank.
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22:12<twb>How do I turn off numlock by default in this AMI UEFI? The stupid keyboard thinks numlock means "make all the letter keys send numbers"
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22:31<zack_>hello, friends. I need help and what channel should I go?
22:31<PovAddict>help with what?
22:32<zack_>I've just installed Debian and I can't reach my 500GB Volume.
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22:32<zack_>It's written you are not the owner.
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22:35<twb>zack_: this 500GB is NTFS?
22:35<zack_>no, it's ext4
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22:36<twb>It mounted correctly, you just can't edit/add files on it?
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22:37<zack_>I can see it correctly, but I can do nothing inside. I tried to format from Live Usb, but it doesn't help.
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22:38<twb>zack_: run ls -ld on its mountpoint and compare to your user ID
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22:39<zack_>twb_: sorry, I am absolutely new to Linux and I have no idea of what it is( I need detailed help if you don't mind
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22:40<twb>OK do you know how to use a terminal emulator?
22:40<zack_>yes. i do
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22:42<twb>OK so suppose it is mounted at "/media/Giraffe-based Terror Attacks 1993-1995"
22:42<zack_>twb_: I write to you in Dialog. I think it's more convenient
22:42<twb>You want to run ls -ld "/media/Giraffe-based Terror Attacks 1993-1995"
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22:42<PovAddict>lol
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22:42<twb>It will say something like "drwxr-xr-x 1 root root" which means only root can write to it.
22:42<twb>Once we know what the permissions are, we can change them
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22:43<twb>If it says something like "drwxr-xr-x 1 1031 1031", it is because you took this disk from a computer where your user had a different ID, and we have to fix it differently.
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22:45<zack_>the answer: No such file or directory
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22:45<PovAddict>then you gave it the wrong path
22:46<PovAddict>where is your volume?
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22:46<zack_> /media/zack/1fefa20c-8ac9-4fb0-9188-61e9f3d57d83
22:46<twb>You ran ls -ld on that?
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22:46-!-Yst is "Yst Dawson" on #debian #
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22:47<zack_>shouldn't I?
22:47<twb>ls -ld /media/zack/1fefa20c-8ac9-4fb0-9188-61e9f3d57d83 --> "no such file or directory" ?
22:48<zack_>got it: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jan 20 2016 /media/zack/1fefa20c-8ac9-4fb0-9188-61e9f3d57d83
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22:51<R4F_Debian>they try to attack and disqualify Debian, but I and other Debian Lover were in this site: https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1008169-redhat-centos-vs-debian-ubuntu?page=1#entry-5421621
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22:52<R4F_Debian>I know it is offtopic, but I need your help, supporting this pro Debian article with good comments, supporting Debian, of course
22:53<R4F_Debian>Please, help us, help Debian on this site !
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22:54<twb>zack_: please be patient, I am not just helpingyou
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22:54<zack_>twb_:sorry
22:54<twb>zack_: try "sudo chown -h /media/zack/1fefa20c-8ac9-4fb0-9188-61e9f3d57d83"
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22:55<twb>If that disk already has files, you can try something like "find /media/zack/ -user root -exec sudo chown -h zack {} +" -- but this might change more than you want
22:56<zack_>no, it's absolutely empty
22:56<twb>Then the first command should suffice
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22:57<twb>Once that is done, any new files you create will default to useful settings
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23:00<zack_>twb_I don't know why but It's seems my password is incorrect. That's impossible. I surely know it
23:00<boyang>join #deepin
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23:01<twb>zack_: I can't help with that :-)
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23:04<zack_> password for zack:
23:04<zack_>zack is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
23:04<PovAddict>that didn't say "password is incorrect"
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23:04<zack_><PovAddict> it was before.
23:05<twb>zack_: try "pkexec ..." instead of "sudo ..."
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23:05<twb>pkexec is sudo for GUI people
23:06<PovAddict>looks like he doesn't even have sudo set up, which would mean a separate root password?
23:06<twb>If that doesn't work, try "su -" to become root, then run "chown ..."
23:06<zack_>i
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23:06<twb>PovAddict: I don't know what a normal debian install looks like anymore :P
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23:06<zack_>zack@hostX:~$ pkexec chown -h /media/zack/1fefa20c-8ac9-4fb0-9188-61e9f3d57d83
23:06<zack_>/bin/chown: missing operand after ‘/media/zack/1fefa20c-8ac9-4fb0-9188-61e9f3d57d83’
23:06<zack_>Try '/bin/chown --help' for more information.
23:07<twb>you forgot the "zack" I think
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23:09<zack_>I have options: -c, -h, -l, -m, -p, -s
23:09<zack_>zack@hostX:~$ su chown -h /media/zack/1fefa20c-8ac9-4fb0-9188-61e9f3d57d83
23:09<zack_>Usage: su [options] [LOGIN]
23:09<zack_>Options:
23:09<zack_> -c, --command COMMAND pass COMMAND to the invoked shell
23:09<zack_> -h, --help display this help message and exit
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23:09<PovAddict>twb: no, you forgot it
23:09<PovAddict>[00:54] <twb> zack_: try "sudo chown -h /media/zack/1fefa20c-8ac9-4fb0-9188-61e9f3d57d83"
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23:10<twb>haha
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23:11<twb>When he comes back you can tell him how dumb I am, and that's why we don't do things in privmsg
23:11<PovAddict>in fact he sent me a privmsg "can you help me"
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23:11<dafiganteng>hallo
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23:12<PovAddict>I set a privmsg ignore in response
23:12<dafiganteng>tes
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23:14<markybob>zack_, twb is really stupid :P
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23:14<PovAddict>lol
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23:15<PovAddict>zack_: twb made a mistake in the command he gave you and then blamed you for it :D
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23:15<PovAddict>zack_: you need: pkexec chown -h zack /media/zack/1fefa20c-8ac9-4fb0-9188-61e9f3d57d83
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23:16<zack_>after - pkexec chown -h zack /media/zack/1fefa20c-8ac9-4fb0-9188-61e9f3d57d83 ---- nothing changed
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23:22<zack_>it worked. thank you all
23:22<zack_>for you patience and help
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23:25<twb>phew
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23:57<darkprince>hola a todos
23:58<darkprince>me pasarian canales irc para seguridad informatica
23:59<darkprince>ejemplo el canal irc de kali linux o backtrack
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