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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-02-25

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03:02<krasi>hi all. I need to install caching DNS server to serv on small network - 60 pc`s on Jessie.I just need that dns to be fast and secure. Nothing special?
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03:03<teatime>you can use dnsmasq, if you want to forward to upstream DNS servers.
03:03<teatime>or bind, if you want it to be independent.
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03:04<teatime>it's easy to find howtos for bind; you're wanting to setup a recursive resolver, not a non-recursive/authoritative server.
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04:11<nauczyciel>hey
04:11<nauczyciel>co tam :D
04:11<nauczyciel>jak tam życie?
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04:12<nauczyciel>hey :d
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04:12<nauczyciel>hej narcan :d
04:12<themill>!pl
04:12<dpkg>Na kanale #debian rozmawiamy po angielsku; jesli chcesz lub wolisz mowic po polsku, wejdz na kanal #debian-pl na irc.freenode.net (Polish speakers please go to #debian-pl on irc.freenode.net). pl is also <perl>.
04:12<nauczyciel>dam ci pałe z polskiego :d
04:12<narcan>yes?
04:12<nauczyciel>hay im a gay :d
04:13<nauczyciel>do you like me?
04:13<nauczyciel>my riend?
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04:13<Pan>Hello
04:13<nauczyciel>and hes name is John Cenaaaaa :D
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04:14<nauczyciel>hay
04:14<Guest5575>Cześć kuba
04:14<nauczyciel>o.o
04:14<nauczyciel>łata faaaaaaak
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04:15<Guest5575>ja
04:15<nauczyciel>tomuś is fakin gaj
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04:15<nauczyciel>maj rjend :D
04:15<Guest5575>WEŹ NIE PIERDOL
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04:17<narcan>hum... there is no school today for children?
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04:21<laughingtiger>hi I kept getting this error message: rebooting in 30 seconds, all happens when I playing video with mplayer. the x server was killed, no keyboard response, the only useful message from the tty1 is"bad:scheduled from idle thread", can someone help me to solve this? thanks very much.
04:22<jm_>check if you see anything in logs after reboot
04:22<laughingtiger>jm_, what log to check ?
04:22<jm_>laughingtiger: all of them
04:23<laughingtiger>jm_, that's too much. I don't have the ability to get useful message from the log sea.
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04:25<laughingtiger>it doesn't happen exactly every time when I play with mplayer, only few times, and if I remembered correctly, when this error happens, I also downloading things, either using torrent tools or opened virtualbox, so could it be a hard disk's problem?
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04:35<laughingtiger>most probably cause I can think of is the power was unstable at that time.
04:35<laughingtiger>thanks you guys
04:35<laughingtiger>see you
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04:45<DrZaius>when I hibernate my computer something wakes it up at random times... Ive searched the logs but i cant find anything...do you have any idea of what might be causing it?
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05:10<nonameyot>Hi
05:11<anddam>markybob: tracked down the issue :-)
05:11<anddam>REDSHIFT-GTK it's working on my system now
05:11<anddam>sorry for the caps
05:11<nonameyot>Question regarding smartd/smartctl Harddisk monitoring tool in debian unstable.
05:11<nonameyot>How to read specific attributes values and threshhold for the same?
05:13<nonameyot>for example :232 Available_Reservd_Space 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age
05:13<mestia>have updated the system, lightdm log file exploded to 3.4G kernel.log is 730M due to mismatching nvidia module version and so on, what would be a way to avoid such surprises ?
05:13<mestia>of course I do not want to reboot :)
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05:15<nonameyot>any idea or any other channel list ?
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05:16<mestia>nonameyot: why not just grepping the values ?
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05:18<nonameyot>mestia: that will have another script, I wanted to keep in smartd.conf so that I can just configure and that will send to syslog.
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05:28<jensp>hey there, I'm installing jessie via pxe with a preseed file and it always fails on mirror selection for me. In the logfile I see "mirror does not support the specified release jessie".
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05:28<jensp>googling the issue I found lots of recommendations to check my network settings
05:29<jensp>but the wget commands I see in the logs work fine if run by hand
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05:29<jensp>any ideas what I could be doing wrong?
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05:33<nonameyot>any other comments ?
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05:40<fniepelt>anyone else on wheezy seeing regular segfaults in libresolv?
05:40<fniepelt>since the latest glibc update?
05:40<jm_>nonameyot: what does "how to read" mean in this context?
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05:42<nonameyot>jm_: I mean when I run smartctl -a /dev/sda, one of the output line is
05:42<nonameyot>for example :232 Available_Reservd_Space 0x0000 100 100 000 Old_age
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05:45<exoplanet>Hello, does anybody know why imapsync isn't in the repo anymore?
05:46<jm_>no not anybody, but those with decent searching skills would find https://packages.qa.debian.org/i/imapsync/news/20110125T145634Z.html
05:46<nonameyot>so I wanted to read attribute id 232 value and check if its going less
05:46<jm_>read it how/where etc.?
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05:49<nonameyot>jm_: smartd.conf , one can configure to run self test in hard disk , for example "/dev/hdb -H -l error -l selftest -t -I 194" .
05:50<jm_>nonameyot: I still don't get what you are asking about
05:50<nonameyot>jm_: This is default , I just wanted to run that test for one Attributes, aboe example attribute id is 194.
05:50<jm_>the test is not for an attribute, it's a device test
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05:51<nonameyot>jm_: ah ok, so can I capture/monitor specific error ?
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05:53<jm_>nonameyot: smartd logs progress and status of self tests for me, is this what you are asking about? it also logs attribute changes for me (at least for some attributes) ....
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06:16<exoplanet>Hi, i just got this warning mail: "
06:16<exoplanet>CRITICAL! LDAP primary MDB database is 90% full.
06:16<exoplanet>" And i looked at the data.mdb file and ls reports 80GB as expected and "du -c -h" shows only 1,3M.
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06:17<exoplanet>Is this the right solution for the problem? https://syslint.com/blog/tutorial/solved-critical-ldap-primary-mdb-database-is-90-full-in-zimbra/
06:17<exoplanet>It looks counterintuitive as the database is so small and nowhere near 90%
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06:39<jensp>my issue turned out to be user error after all, I had an old proxy setting in the preseed file I had forgotten about
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07:19<jm_>fniepelt: anything in bts?
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07:48<fniepelt>jm_: couldn't find a report related to this. guess I'll have to file my first report.
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07:55<fniepelt>am I correct that the following line would warrant a bug report against libc instead of php5-fpm?
07:55<fniepelt>php5-fpm[21385]: segfault at 270752f65 ip 00007fd55be4f4fa sp 00007fffe6a3dcd0 error 4 in libresolv-2.13.so[7fd55be47000+13000]
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08:00<jm_>hard to say just from that
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08:05<teatime>how long has it been the case that debian repos only ever contain 1 version of a package
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08:05<teatime>I have lost an argument about this. but more importantly, people are trying to tell me that it is invalid for an apt repo in general to have more than 1 version of a given package.
08:05<teatime>and I'm sure that's absolutely untrue.
08:06<themill>apt can cope with and sometimes a debian repo will have more than one version but not often
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08:06<teatime>how do they manage that with the debian repos if they use dak to make them and it doesn't support doing that?
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08:07<themill>I don't know of any restriction in dak for that
08:08<teatime>unless it's changed recently, it's a widely-advertised limitation
08:08<teatime>of dak, not apt repos
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08:08<teatime>I'm really curious when this started to be how debian does it repos though, 'cause I'm sure I remember they used to have several versions, and only didn't have all versions due to space constraints for mirrors
08:09<themill>dake normally makes this happen but it doesn't have to
08:09<themill>-e
08:09<themill>no, several versions just for fun has never been something dak did
08:10<teatime>well dak is not as old as debian, either
08:11<themill>sure
08:11<themill>(that's why I phrased it that way, I don't even remember what the older scripts did)
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08:21<Osmosis>Has anyone been having trouble with LVM + encryption lately?
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08:25<mendi>Hi
08:25<mendi>Does anybody know if bluez5 in unstable support A2DP with AAC codec?
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08:27<redsucubus>anyone there
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08:28<redsucubus>??? yo sup
08:28<ring>I'm here
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08:28<ring>I don't know if I can help you
08:28<ring>You'll have to post your problem first
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08:37<adria>Hello everyone, anyone knows why UNetbootin is not on main repositories in debian 8.3? Thanks
08:38<Walex>when I see "anyone" questions I always wish that our psychic advisors were not always so busy on other astral planes :-)
08:39<themill>adria: because unetbootin's only function is to destroy debian installer images
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08:40<adria>themill: thanks!
08:40<peter1138>what about installer images that aren't debian's?
08:41<mendi>OK ring
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08:41<mendi>I bought a Bluetooth adapter, brand is Belkin
08:41<adria>gnome-disks is an alternative to UNetbootin
08:41<mendi>sound quality was medium-bad, like a bad quality MP3 (MP3 with 98 Kbps)
08:42<mendi>After A LOT of investigation, I discover that the device only supports A2DP with SBC codec
08:43<mendi>I used hcidump to see the negotiation process between bluez and the Belking Bluetooth receiver
08:43<fniepelt>Walex: phrasing the question that way is seen as a more polite way (in German anyway) whereas just asking out of the blue "Why is that" seems kinda bossy. imho
08:43<mendi>I decided to buy an Elecom bluetooth receiver, after making sure the Elecom receiver supports AAC and aptX, which are higher quality CODECs
08:43<mendi>OK, I know that aptX is a propietary CODEC that is not supported by bluez
08:44<mendi>Using hcidump, I can see the Elecom receiver reports supporting SBC, AAC and aptX
08:44<mendi>however, bluez always connects using SBC (low quality) CODEC!!!
08:45<mendi>I have done a lot of searching the last couple of days and I have not even found if bluez supports AAC or not
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08:45<mendi>Conversely, the audio quality of the Elecom receiver is much better than the Belkin
08:46<mendi>and surprisingly both receivers connect to bluez using SBC!!!
08:46<mendi>I'm totally puzzled
08:46<mendi>Also, the lack of documentation about bluez is DESPERATING!
08:52<amoe>Is it a bug for packages in jessie that bundle apache confs to use Order and other stuff that requires deprecated mod_access_compat in apache 2.4?
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12:09<lichen>anyone around?
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12:10<lostson>!ask
12:10<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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12:37<TheHoFL>Hello. I am trying to install minecraft on debian, but am running into an issue. I am trying to follow the step on the following site, but receive an error when i try to run get-add ... Can anyone assist? http://www.howtogeek.com/198476/how-to-install-minecraft-on-ubuntu-or-any-other-linux-distribution/
12:37<TheHoFL>I meant apt-add
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12:38<TheHoFL>Error is "bash: apt-add: command not found#"
12:39<Maulkin>That's because it's a Ubuntu specific thing, it doesn't exist in Debian
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12:40<Maulkin>TheHoFL: Are you after a client, or server?
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12:40<TheHoFL>Maulkin, I am looking to install the client.
12:41<Maulkin>TheHoFL: Ok, just install OpenJDK, then run "java -jar Minecraft.jar"
12:41<TheHoFL>Maulkin, I DLd the .jar, but it it not executing. It's opening with archive manager.
12:41<Maulkin>Yes, you need to do the above.
12:42<TheHoFL>Do i use synaptic for that?
12:42<Maulkin>Sure, you can do.
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12:49<TheHoFL>Maulkin, So i installed openjdk and tried to run. How do i specify Home/Downloads/Minecraft.jar?
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12:50<TheHoFL>Maulkin, user@computer:~$ java -jar Minecraft.jar #Error: Unable to access jarfile Minecraft.jar
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12:50<Maulkin>TheHoFL: Where did you download it to?
12:50<TheHoFL>home>downloads
12:51<TheHoFL>Maulkin, I'm a newb to linux... :)
12:51<Maulkin>TheHoFL: In your home folder, you have a folder called Downloads, right?
12:52<Maulkin>If so, it's "java -jar ~/Downloads/Minecraft.jar"
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12:53<TheHoFL>is ~, home?
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13:07<Guest5649>hi
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13:08<Guest5649>i have q
13:08<towo`>ask
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13:12<Guest5649>How to Collect several icons of programs in a folder on a single system, such as debian like kali 2
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13:14<debian_>How to Collect several icons of programs in a folder on a single system, such as kali
13:14<towo`>1st, this is not the kali support channel
13:14<towo`>2nd i dont understand, what you want do do
13:15<debian_>I want it in debian
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13:17<toogley>i /j #debian-security
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13:46<neiljp>which package should I report a linux bug against?
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13:47<neiljp>just the linux-image* one?
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13:58<gas>Hi. I'm running Xorg and XFCE and have the tearing problem. Running the Compton compositor helps with windows like a browser window, but doesn't seem to affect fullscreen video. Multiple sources suggest that tearing is an inherent problem of X11 and Wayland is supposedly free of that problem. Is there a way for me to try Weston without breaking what I currently have?
13:59<gas>I also don't quite understand yet where Wayland fits in the system: is it supposed to be between Xorg and the drivers?
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14:05<martinf99>gas wayland is a protocol like Xorg. It kinda reinvented the wheel. It doesn'T fix Xorg but it is aimed to replace Xorg sooner or later. That's why you can't use XFCE, MATE, LXDE or Cinnamon with it right now. Weston is the reference compositor of wayland, but it can't do anything else than starting a terminal. It is not considered usable just for testing
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14:09<gas>martinf99 thanks
14:09<gas>But what does the "xwayland" package do? What's its purpose?
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14:10<gas>It says it's an X server on top of Wayland, but what's the point of that?
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14:14<teatime>so that you can display existing X clients on wayland
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14:14<teatime>i.e., pretty much all graphical apps currently available for *nix
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14:16<mensoi>aho
14:16<gas>XFCE is not an X client then? Sorry, I'm trying to wrap my head around all this.
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14:16<teatime>XFWM is a window manager, which yes I think also qualifies as an X client.
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14:18<teatime>XFCE, being a whole desktop environment, is made up of lots of different programs.
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14:18<teatime>programs that want to display themselves on an X display/server are X clients.
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14:19<teatime>gas: so, you have multiple monitors?
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14:19<gas>I don't see why I coudln't use XFCE with Wayland then...
14:19<gas>teatime: no, I'm on a laptop.
14:20<teatime>and getting tearing w/ a single display?
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14:20<gas>teatime: yes, I am
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14:21<gas>It seems worse in fullscreen video but that might be just that the pictuere is bigger
14:21<teatime>you might actually be able to work around that, then
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14:21<teatime>if it were multiple displays I think you'd just be screwed
14:22<gas>Okay... What is the cure?..
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14:22<teatime>not sure. :)
14:22<gas>Oh, well :)
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14:23<gas>I've been running for a few days around that and found multiple claims that Wayland is the way to go. But then it turns out it's not usable?
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14:24<gas>The compositor in XFCE is turned off, but turning it on doesn't give anything.
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14:25<gas>Running Compton helps a little.
14:25<jmcnaught>gas: it's just that it's still fairly new, it will be a while before the X11 to Wayland transition completes
14:25<teatime>I've not been paying much attention, but I assume that's still the case, and you'd be going into a world of pain to try to use it.
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14:25<jmcnaught>gas: i think Gnome and KDE have some Wayland support in Jessie
14:25<teatime>and you might as well enable compositing, it's as likely to make things faster as slow anything down.
14:27<gas>XFCE has four compositors in the settings. All they seem to do is change the design of windows a bit, but nothing with vsync.
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14:28<teatime>investigate, play with different driver options in xorg?
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14:29<gas>teatime: where to look at? Where are those options?
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14:30<quietone>I've run into a bug in patchutils and would like to know if I can use the patchutils package from testing
14:30<gas>It seems, I don't have xorg.conf or how is it called. I didn't have it on previous Debian on my Desktop (that's a more painful story)
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14:31<teatime>yeah that's normal, you don't need it anymore
14:31<teatime>you just get reasonable defaults w/o it
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14:33<gas>On that desktop it insisted on running the monitor at 60 Hz, but I don't want to bug you about that for now since I've migrated to the laptop.
14:33<gas>It would be nice to have vsync here, could you please point at a man page or an article to read about driver options?
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14:35<teatime>no, sorry
14:35<teatime>but you should be able to find them, google for stuff specific to your driver
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14:36<gas>OK, thanks nonetheless, I know a bit more now.
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15:36<KaliLinuxGR>how i will reinstall ssh in debian7? beacouse is not working
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15:38<retrospectacus>why not?
15:38<sney>ssh client or server? and what is wrong exactly
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15:40<KaliLinuxGR>ssh server
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15:41<KaliLinuxGR>i cant to connect from the laptop in my pc
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15:43<sney>'apt install openssh-server' and if it says no packages will be installed, let us know
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15:46<KaliLinuxGR>ok
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15:57<KaliLinuxGR>ok and how i will change the blacklist ip for ssh ?
15:58<sney>man 5 sshd_config
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16:14<quietone>I need a version of patchutil in Jessie not effect by this, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=717411
16:14<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/717411 in patchutils (open): «strange issues with interdiff and patch generated from git»; severity: normal; opened: 2013-07-20; last modified: 2015-05-06.
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16:15<quietone>I tried patchutil 0.3.4-1 from testing, but get errors in compile and make check.
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16:16<markybob>quietone: you're doing it wrong
16:16<markybob>,checkbackports patchutils
16:16<quietone>markybob, I didn't find patchutils in the backports
16:16<markybob>,checkbackport patchutils
16:16<judd>Backporting package patchutils in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
16:16<markybob>!ssb
16:16<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
16:16<markybob>quietone: do that ^
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16:23<quietone>markybob, what is <bdo> and how do I see it?
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16:24<markybob>quietone: you don't need that. you need to do apt-get build-dep patchutils && apt-get -b source patchutils then dpkg -i the resulting debs
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16:25<quietone>quietone, I don't know what to do know.
16:25<markybob>quietone: after of course adding deb-src sid or testing lines (not deb lines!) to /etc/apt/sources.list and then apt-get update
16:26<markybob>quietone: you know how to add deb-src to /etc/apt/sources.list?
16:26<markybob>quietone: for sid/or testing. doesn't matter which in this case
16:27<quietone>markybob, yes, I searched for it. What is the difference between sid and testing?
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16:27<markybob>quietone: in this case nothing. now pastebin your sources.list somewhere so i can see it. http://paste.debian.net
16:27<markybob>quietone: in generally unstable is more unstable then testing. thus the name.
16:28<markybob>quietone: sid = unstable
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16:33<ompaul>!dontbreakdebian
16:33<dpkg>dont break debian is probably https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
16:33<markybob>ompaul: ssb is hardly doing that
16:33<ompaul>just one of those things you should read once quietone
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16:33<markybob>ompaul: for patchutils. c'mon
16:33<ompaul>at least know when you will fall out of favour
16:33<ompaul>iot's not
16:34<ompaul>it's not going to break but you know people get ideas
16:34<ompaul>oh look I can get a binary from there and drop it in hear
16:34<ompaul>s/hear/here
16:34<markybob>i'm not telling them to backport everything. this is harmless
16:34<ompaul>then it works once twice three times a failure :)
16:34<ompaul>just do it with caveats
16:34<markybob>i'm not even sure they understand how to do it since they stopped responding when i asked for a pastebin
16:35<ompaul>then when it breaks you get to keep all the pieces - quietone - if you don't know what you are doing or how deep in you want to go - build a test vm mess with it a bit
16:35<ompaul>when that breaks you will still have a working system
16:35<ompaul>and ... all the good data will be intact
16:36<markybob>we're talking about patchutils. this is insane FUD
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16:36<ompaul>markybob: no, it's not insane, it's over cautious, but at least teach people two things, one A is stable, B whatever B is is not stable
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16:37<ompaul>and there are safe ways to do B
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16:37<ompaul>however it is worth noting that there are unsafe ways to do B
16:37<ompaul>I'd suggest nothing less or more
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16:38<ompaul>oh and an unsafe B is C which is broken :)
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16:38<jmcnaught>+1 for encouraging people to read docs and learn concepts rather than just spoonfeeding commands they don't understand
16:38<Guest5671>Hola #-#
16:38<ompaul>markybob: I'll leave you in peace :) I've hand enough of Thursday, Testing, Trial by Terror as I had thrown at me in a bit of outsourced dev of sorts today
16:39<quietone>markybob, that was a lot of work to get the same 4 errors in the make
16:39<markybob>quietone: you never gave me what i needed
16:39<ompaul>markybob: I've my PHB hat on and am in need of something liquid and over 30% proof.
16:39<ompaul>:-) night night
16:39<quietone>markybob, what did I miss?
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16:40<markybob>quietone: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.debian.net
16:41<quietone>markybob, http://paste.debian.net/403938/
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16:42<Guest5671>Hola #-#
16:42<markybob>quietone: that's messed up. you don't have security or updates.
16:42<quietone>markybob, what is <bdo> ?
16:43<markybob>quietone: it doesn't have your package. you have to do it yourself
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16:43<markybob>!bdo
16:43<dpkg>backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>.
16:43<quietone>markybob, yes that is correct
16:44<markybob>quietone: okay so you know it's messed up. anyway, it should still work. although i fail to see why you'd knowingly do that. now pastebin the command/output of apt-get build-dep patchutils
16:44<quietone>markybob, I am doing this on a dev lxc container, I destroy and create as needed
16:44<markybob>quietone: apt-get update before you do apt-get build-dep patchutils if you didn't already
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16:50<quietone>markybob, http://paste.debian.net/403959/
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16:50<markybob>quietone: great
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16:56<tagada>Hello I have a Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u3 (2016-01-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux. And a geforce gtx650ti running with nvidia version 340.96. Unfortunately often when i watch a video (or use 3d plot in python/matlab) my screen get white and i need to reboot manually the pc. Can someone tell me where is the related logs to try to find out the issue.
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17:03<jmcnaught>tagada: i'm not sure if the nvidia drivers have their own log. you could look at /var/log/Xorg.1.log (or check for other nvidia logs in /var/log).
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17:04<jmcnaught>tagada: you could also check the instructions in /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian about enabling persistent logging in journald, and then after the crash review the logs from the previous boot with "journalctl -b -1".
17:05<jmcnaught>tagada: or try with the open source nouveau driver
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17:07<tagada>thx jmcnaught i am looking at it
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17:48<dngrz0n3>Hello, I have a software raid0 and raid5, these are mounted with the UUID in fstab. Is it safe to remove those drives and clean out my computer with out mdadm getting confused and losing the array? My fstab/mdstat http://pastebin.com/2PQvSWrq
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17:48<sney>yes, md is good at that
17:49<sney>it can even detect and mount an array from a different system
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17:49<dngrz0n3>sney, thank you! I appreciate the help.
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17:57<issacy>Hi, I'm trying to install debian 8.3 on my laptop, I already did it on my desktop, and for this time I wanted to setup a mirror of debian for my LAN, so, I followed this guide [http://askubuntu.com/questions/170348/how-to-make-my-own-local-repository] (accepted answer) and I have things working without issue. but when I actually try to use this mirror in the graphic intallation ( I typed: 192.168.1.6 for my hostname and /packages for the folder) but I got a
17:57<issacy>n error that says: " An error has ben detected while trying to use the specified Debian Archive Morror" the actual .deb files are in "192.168.1.6/packages/amd64" Any help or suggestions is gladly appreciated :)
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18:01<grove>Several of the answers on that site (including the accepted and the highest scoring) describes how to set up a repository for your own packages, not a mirror that you can install from.
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18:05<grove>(I didn't read the answers in detail, but only looked at what tools they suggested - You can proably use dpkg-scanpackages to build a mirror, but I think it will be <beep> to maintain)
18:06<issacy>the installation files are actually on the usb in which I'm booting on, It just that, when debian installs,it asks you for a mirror where you can choose one or enter one manually, the .deb that I have on the LAN are from the debian DVDs that I downloaded.
18:06<issacy>i did use dpkg-scanpackages
18:06<issacy>It created a Package.gz
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18:09<issacy>can't the debs on all 3 debian DVD be useful for that mirror it asks you when installing?
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18:09<issacy>I thought it was going to speed up the installation
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18:10<issacy>I'm thinking of installing debian in 5-7 more computers
18:11<grove>I normally just download a small netinst image and install things over the net, so I've never really cared about it, but I believe the installer will use the dvd before it will try downloading
18:11<jmcnaught>issacy: i use apt-cacher-ng on my LAN to speed up package downloads, very easy to set up
18:11<TobiX>issacy: Please use apt-cacher-ng
18:11<TobiX>dpkg: apt-cacher-ng
18:11<dpkg>apt-cacher-ng is a replacement for <apt-proxy>. Its usage is documented at http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~bloch/acng/ and alternatives comprise <apt-cacher>, <squid deb caching> and <approx>.
18:12<TobiX>IMHO, DVD is only useful if you don't have net access at all...
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18:13<grove>I've used apt-cacher-ng and it is nice - and building a mirror from the dvds is not going to be fun
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18:14<TobiX>issacy: And if those systems are all on the same net, you could forego installation media completly and launch the installer via tftp/pxe
18:14<TobiX>dpkg: pxe
18:14<dpkg>Pre-boot eXecution Environment (PXE) is a network boot protocol. A <TFTP> server with tsize support (such as tftpd-hpa, atftpd, dnsmasq) is required for PXE. See also <pxelinux>, <netboot>, <ipxe>.
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18:15<issacy>I will check apt-cacher-ng
18:16<issacy>About 215,000,000 results (0.61 seconds)
18:16<issacy>Search Results
18:16<issacy>Thanks for the heads up :(
18:16<issacy>i actually meant :)
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20:50<R4F_Debian>Hi all ! I ran 'debsums' to check the integrity of installed packages on my Debian Jessie 8.3 - it returned 'Ok' for all the lines. Now, I was running 'dpkg - V' and it returned the following line: '??5?????? c /etc/sudoers'. I tried to understand this result through Debian Handbook, but with no success. Please, what is it about ?
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20:55<sney>R4F_Debian: were you running dpkg -V as a normal user? only root has access to sudoers so that was likely the problem
20:57<R4F_Debian>Hi sney ! Both 'debsums' and 'dpkg - V' I ran as root
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20:59<R4F_Debian>running as root it has returned this information, sney (root@r4f:~# dpkg -V ??5?????? c /etc/sudoers). Anything is going wrong to my System ?
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21:01<sney>R4F_Debian: if you run visudo does it report any issues or just open the file?
21:02<R4F_Debian>the command in question is just 'visudo', sney ?
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21:02<sney>yes
21:03<R4F_Debian>sney, it has opened /etc/sudoers.tmp
21:03<sney>then you are fine
21:03<yahia> cvbxfgfgfdthyujykiloi;po
21:04<R4F_Debian>sney, take a look on these last lines in the file, please: #includedir /etc/sudoers.d r4fkramer ALL=(ALL) ALL
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21:04<sney>looks fine to me
21:05<R4F_Debian>Oh, Great ! If it's fine to yours, surely will be fine for me ! Really Great !
21:05<sney>assuming your r4fkramer user is supposed to be able to use sudo unrestricted
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21:06<R4F_Debian>to get 'root priviledges' temporally, you mean ?
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21:09<R4F_Debian>I can perform administrative tasks without accessing root user directly, using sudo and the command. It only asks for [sudo] r4fkramer passwd
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21:09<R4F_Debian>conclusion: so my Jessie 8.3 is ok, sney ?
21:09<sney>sounds normal to me
21:09<sney>did you have some reason to suspect it had been compromised?
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21:12<R4F_Debian>well, sney, I have 9 Debian Installations, only one is wheezy and the others are Jessie 8.3. In one of Jessie installations I use non-free repo and installed virtualbox-5.0 through download from its official site and Adobe Flash Player plugin through nonfree repo, for I couln't watch some videos...
21:12<sney>ok, but did you think there was something wrong?
21:12<R4F_Debian>as these packages don't belong to stable Jessie repositories, I suspected I could damage my OS
21:13<R4F_Debian>oh, I used backports for iceweasel, and noticed it was slow today. After using bleachbit as root, it was ok again
21:14<sney>it's really very unlikely. as much as we don't like oracle, they are professionals, and they aren't distributing malware with virtualbox. and things in non-free are still subject to high standards
21:14<R4F_Debian>that was why I suspected I could have damaged my Debian. Fortunately it didn't happened, as I can see
21:15<R4F_Debian>I see, sney, it's quite important to have your point of view, for it's much more accurate than mine about Debian. In fact, I uninstalled virtualbox-5.0 today, and after that, used apt-get autoremove and bleachbit
21:16<sney>I suppose a little paranoia never hurt anyone
21:16<R4F_Debian>even used apt-get purge virtualbox to eliminate everything of it from my Jessie
21:18<R4F_Debian>well, Debian Power Users paranoia is Strongly Welcome for me ! Helps me to get approach to Debian Culture, sney ! That's what I think
21:19<R4F_Debian>I don't use any other OS, Fell in Love to Debian, and uninstalled all the other OS I ran in the past. Only Powerful and unbeatable Debian nowadays
21:19<sney>ok.
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21:20<R4F_Debian>I must go now, thanks for your Great Support and Attention, sney ! Glad to know from your Experience !
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21:21<R4F_Debian>Bye, sney, have you a good night ! Thanks again ! Always Happy in Debian Channel !
21:21<R4F_Debian>Bye all !
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21:30<R4F_Debian>sney, just one more thing, please: after your explanation I thought it would be better uninstall flashplayer plugin-nonfree. Is there any other plugin in Jessie stable repository that can replace it ?
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21:36<somiaj>R4F_Debian: are you wanting a more modern flash plugin (nonfree) or a free alternative?
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21:38<R4F_Debian>Hi somiaj ! I would like any, not necessarily more modern flash plugin, but from Debian Jessie stable repository if this option is available, to replace adobe flash player plugin (non-free)
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21:39<somiaj>R4F_Debian: both options I mention are in the debian repo. Just courious if it was a newer version of nonfree flash you wanted, or a free alternative (usually the free altnernative might not work as well as a plugin, but I have no experience with it)
21:39<R4F_Debian>I uninstalled virtualbox, and intend to do the same about flashplayer plugin-nonfree
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21:41<R4F_Debian>interesting, somiaj, I didn't know about it. Don't you know any Jessie stable alternative for flashplayer plugin-nonfree ?
21:41<R4F_Debian>It would help me a lot
21:41<somiaj>!gnash
21:41<dpkg>Gnash is the GNU <Flash> movie player, developed from GPLFlash and part of the GNU project. The project aims to create a free software player and browser plugin. The browser plugins are packaged for Debian as browser-plugin-gnash (for Iceweasel/Firefox) and konqueror-plugin-gnash. http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ #gnash on irc.freenode.net.
21:42<R4F_Debian>Great ! Let me install gnash here...
21:42<somiaj>but maybe browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash would be what you want (this uses the pepperflash plugin from chroimum (a modern non-free flash) and is a wrapper so you can use it in iceweasel)
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21:44<R4F_Debian>I see, in the case, the first option you told me to, gnash replaces succesfully flashplayer plugin-nonfree ?
21:45<somiaj>I don't know, I think may work, but I woudlnt' expected it to be compadable with all flash sights/video players
21:45<somiaj>also depending on the site, such as youtube, you can just use html5
21:46<somiaj>but I don't know what it is about flash you are wanting to remove from your system.
21:47<R4F_Debian>adobe flash player, somiaj. It's called flashplayer plugin-nonfree for Debian environment
21:47<somiaj>It is either because it si non-free (in that case your choice is gnash and you may not have it work on some flash sites) or it is due to the age of the plugin since adobe stoped updating it and in that case you can use google's newer version.
21:48<somiaj>R4F_Debian: yes I know that, I didn't catch the eariler converastion as to why you were not wanting it. So those are the two alternatives I know of.
21:49<somiaj>I belive pepper flash is adobe flash, but google is mataining it for google chrome, not adobe. But I'm unsure on the exact details as what google has done with it.
21:50<R4F_Debian>Great, somiaj, I will install these two options you have passed me. I intend to uninstall flashplayer plugin-nonfree now and will replace some sites using chromium and gnash for iceweasel as you suggested
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21:51<somiaj>the package I said for pepperflash is for iceweasle, pepperflashplugin-nonfree is the chromium plugin.
21:52<R4F_Debian>I have chromium installed here, so it comes with pepperflashplugin integrated with chromium installation or not ?
21:52<somiaj>no
21:53<somiaj>chromium does not come integrated with non-free plugins. You have to install them sepertally which is why I mentioned the difference between the packages for pepperflash
21:53<somiaj>they are both in contrib, they will both install non-free softawre on your computer. One is for chormium and one is for iceweasel.
21:53<R4F_Debian>oh, in fact, now I understood so I prefer the 1st option you've passed
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21:55<R4F_Debian>I will do it now and see the results, I think It will go fine... Thanks for Help, Explanations and Patience, somiaj ! Glad to see you again ! I didn't talk to you for a long time !
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21:55<R4F_Debian>must go now, have you a good night and rest, somiaj !
21:55<R4F_Debian>Bye !
21:55<R4F_Debian>Bye all !
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23:54<jamesawagner3>So the other day I was fighting a kernel panic caused by a null pointer exception in the nouveau driver. I compiled the 4.4.0 kernel from upstream, and the bug was gone. I just tried the 4.4.0 kernel from sid, and its gone there as well. Something was just screwy with 4.3.0 and the G72M chipset.
23:55<jamesawagner3>On the one hand, I'm considering still filing a bug report with nouveau so whatever fixed was applied between 4.3 and 4.4 can be backported, but I don't really know if it's worth the time.
23:56<jamesawagner3>*fix was
23:56<jamesawagner3>Thoughts?
23:57<somiaj>jamesawagner3: debian will eventaully move to the 4.4 kernel (which will then be in backports) so not sure if debian or kernel.org would be interested in fixing it. You can still report it, but at least in debian 4.3 won't be around for to long
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