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---Logopened Fri Feb 26 00:00:10 2016
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00:01<jamesawagner3>That's what I figured. The bug would be directly with kernel.org, because the behavior was nonexistent in the debian build of 4.4. I figure that the null pointer exception couldn't have been caused by a Debian specific patch, because then the bug would still present in the sid kernel. The fact that it is gone in the kernel.org sources, and in the debian sources, leads me to believe that Debian has no
00:01<jamesawagner3>thing to do with it.
00:03<jamesawagner3>I never did find a bug with the exact symptoms, but I did find one bug from early November with an NPE in nouveau. It was in a different call however. IDK, I'll probably ignore it, since it's fixed upstream, and the module maintaiers would probably just declare a dup of the other bug.
00:04<jamesawagner3>*early Febuary, not November.
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00:37<PigeonWhisperer>I wrote a script that uses env. variables such as $USER, it works but not when run as a cron job
00:37<PigeonWhisperer>A stackexchange answer says: Bad idea. The general practice is to specifically set all required environmental variables in a script that is to be run from a cron job.
00:38<PigeonWhisperer>What do I have to add to my script to do so?
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00:39<valdyn>PigeonWhisperer: how is that user determined?
00:40<valdyn>PigeonWhisperer: this is a general question where you have a problem that requires a specific question and a specific answer
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00:40<valdyn>!wayttd PigeonWhisperer
00:40<dpkg>What Are You Trying To Do, PigeonWhisperer?
00:40<alumno>ee
00:40<alumno>vieja
00:41<alumno>quien quiere ser mi novio?
00:41<teatime>PigeonWhisperer: some crons allow you to specify env vars directly in the crontab
00:41<PigeonWhisperer>let's say that I have a script that's juste echo $USER|wall , I add the script to the current user's crontab -e , but $USER is undetermined
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00:42<valdyn>PigeonWhisperer: so hardcode the user
00:42<valdyn>PigeonWhisperer: or run "whoami" in the script
00:43<PigeonWhisperer>I was hoping to use it on my different boxes without having to edit it for each
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00:43<valdyn>PigeonWhisperer: there you go then, whoami
00:43<teatime>export USER=`whoami`
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00:54<PigeonWhisperer>neat, adding USER=$(whoami) did the trick
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00:59<PigeonWhisperer>It feels a bit dirty though, no? It works but I'm unclear as to why cron doesn't recognize $USER in the first place
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00:59<teatime>it's not dirty
00:59<jm_>because USER is set by login ...
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01:00<PigeonWhisperer>What if i want to have all of the user's env. variable usable as part of a script? I would source or import some file?
01:01<teatime>cron doesn't get the typical environment 'cause it doesn't run under an interactive or login shell that would source a user's shell startup stuff
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01:02<teatime>the answer to that would be to make a script (that produces no output) to setup env stuff, per-user
01:02<teatime>and have that sourced from both the user's shell startup, and a wrapper around cron scripts
01:02<teatime>or use a shell like zsh that has a .zshenv startup file already
01:03<teatime>if you can manage to avoid that complexity with soemthing like USER=`whoami`, then that's a lot easier and less fragile.
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01:06<PigeonWhisperer>This is a bit over my head for now but I get the gist of it, at least I can move on now with a working script, thanks
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01:09<PigeonWhisperer>Here is a live picture of my colleague for your troubles https://goo.gl/photos/mpRUVXxr2F8kYafS7
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01:17<teatime>PigeonWhisperer: nice.
01:17<teatime>PigeonWhisperer: is that bird poop on the chair?
01:17<teatime>I had a boss w/ a sneezy office cat that would snot on my desk and chair.
01:17<teatime>I hated it.
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01:22<PigeonWhisperer>Ah I would feel the same, as for the poop..we're still figuring out living arrangements
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02:10<C64-Arc>lol
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02:10<C64-Arc>this actually works
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02:11<C64-Arc><-- Using a Commodore 64
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02:12<teatime>haha, sweet
02:12<C64-Arc>A miraculous set of hacks
02:12<jm_>but not for IRC client it seems
02:12<C64-Arc>correct
02:12<C64-Arc>pardon my short lines
02:12<C64-Arc>long story
02:12<C64-Arc>but yes
02:13<teatime>what are you running on the C64?
02:13<C64-Arc>using a term program calaledd novaterm 9.6
02:13<C64-Arc>it has vt102 emulation
02:13<C64-Arc>and ansi
02:13<jm_>reminds me to play with my chameleon
02:13<C64-Arc>and can emulate 80 cols as well
02:13<C64-Arc>as 40
02:13<C64-Arc>so I actually get
02:14<C64-Arc>to see this shit
02:14<C64-Arc>in color..lol
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02:14<C64-Arc>im using tcpser
02:15<C64-Arc>tcpser is brilliant
02:15<C64-Arc>run it against a serial port
02:15<C64-Arc>and it acts like
02:15<C64-Arc>a hayes modem
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02:15<C64-Arc>allows you to use real
02:15<C64-Arc>c64 term progs
02:15<C64-Arc>atdt foo.bar.baz 23
02:16<C64-Arc>speaks hayes on the front, tcp on the back
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02:16<C64-Arc>so im dialed into a raspPi
02:16<C64-Arc>got to a prompt
02:16<C64-Arc>set up my term
02:16<C64-Arc>ran scrollz
02:16<C64-Arc>here i am
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02:17<C64-Arc>it takes forever to
02:17<C64-Arc>paint the line im typing
02:17<C64-Arc>so i have to
02:17<C64-Arc>keep it shoport
02:17<C64-Arc>lol
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02:18<C64-Arc>short rather
02:18<C64-Arc>this poor 64 is under an
02:18<C64-Arc>enormous sttrain
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02:19<C64-Arc>this box will be 34 yrs old this yr
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02:22<C64-Arc>i should riun this
02:22<C64-Arc>in a screen session
02:22<C64-Arc>one sec
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02:26<C64-Arc>Hah, there we go
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05:42<blankon>hello
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06:16<EmleyMoor>Is there any software available for Debian that can play dashcam videos and also show the position on a map? (the files have the GPS data in too - the video and audio play just fine in vlc)
06:17<EmleyMoor>(I have the Datakam Registrator player for Windows, but it won't work in wine)
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06:19<spaww>Hi all. I like to talk with someone about add root certificates on debian distro (specialy iceweasel / firefox)
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06:25<jm_>you could always submit a request for iceweasel via BTS
06:25<spaww>BTS ?
06:25<spaww>debug traking system ? :D
06:26<jm_>!bts
06:26<dpkg>Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS
06:27<spaww>very thank you JM !
06:27<jm_>no problem
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07:01<mickeratta>hi everyone
07:01<mickeratta>can some one PLZ help me i am kind of a noob when it comes to Linux
07:02<mickeratta>i would like to join a irc channel called https:webirc.nullim.org
07:02<mickeratta>but using xchat i dunno how to do
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07:06<Walex>mickeratta: that's not a channel, it looks like the name of a web UI interface to some kind of IRC "network".
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07:06<Walex>mickeratta: probably you should try to open https://webirc.nullim.org/ or http://webirc.nullim.org/ in a browser
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07:10<jm_>hmm maybe it's about ca-certificates instead of iceweasel
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07:12<Hacker_Anonymous>im need help
07:12<Hacker_Anonymous>necesito ayuda
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07:19<Conan> /msg NickServ REGISTER l4ur41982 conanhd2@gmail.com
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07:51<DarkFenix>Hi all. I have problem with a Nvidia instalation. I don't know if this is the correct channel for throw the question or there is other for that.
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07:51<jm_>we only support using nvidia driver the debian way, not using their installer
07:52<DarkFenix>Hi, jm_, I'm using the Debian way.
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07:58<DarkFenix>I have a Geforce 7300 GT. I have installed the legacy 304 in Testing. The module nvidia is compiled and instaled, but when the X try to get up it cannot. I don't know if it is importan, but I have seen that /dev/nvidia* don't exist. But I really don't know if that is important.
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08:00<jm_>for help with testing ask in #debian-next
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08:00<jm_>and make sure kernel module is loaded (check dmesg if it says anything)
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08:02<DarkFenix>Yes, the Nvidia kernel module is loaded. I'll go to debian-next as I am in testing. Thanks, jm_ . :)
08:02<jm_>no worries
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08:05<Guest5722>hi all can u help me// after instal i got root1@debian:~$ and what i should do next
08:05<jm_>!grounding
08:05<dpkg>Before asking in here or on the <debian-user> mailing list, you should read the Installation Guide, or if you already have Debian installed, the Debian Reference. The Debian Administrator's Handbook is also good. Ask me about <ig>, <overview>, <reference>, <refcard>, <docs>, <manuals>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>, <debian-handbook> (e.g. in your IRC client, type /msg dpkg reference).
08:06<Guest5722>can u help me
08:07<Guest5722>i allready check guide
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08:07<themill>You'd need to explain what you wanted to do
08:09<Guest5722>i want use graffical dizain
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08:09<Guest5722>not command line
08:10<jm_>install one of the DE-s
08:12<Guest5722>how can i do it
08:12<Guest5722>what i should write on command line
08:12<jm_>start by deciding on which one to use
08:13<Guest5722>to instal one of the de-s
08:13<jm_>and if you really read the guides you would know how to install software on debian
08:13<Guest5722>i allready instal in avtomaticaly choice
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08:15<Guest5722>ohhh it big problem..dear people plz help
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08:19<R4F_Debian>Hi all
08:19<R4F_Debian>HI all
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08:19<R4F_Debian>Hi all
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08:21<phochs>Hello, I am creating a backup program using Bash and
08:21<R4F_Debian>Please, what really do you need, Guest5722 ?
08:22<phochs>it has a loop in which it backs up all the paths (http://pastebin.com/ShGVrKLa), but it only goes through the first line. I figured out it has to do with the SSH line, but I don't know how to resolve it, can someone help me?
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08:56<cbug>Hi, someone here who is familiar to network/interfaces syntaxes? My inet6 and my post-up commands beeing ignored somehow.
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09:07<NapoleonWils0n>hi all
09:07<NapoleonWils0n>im trying to install grub on an external drive, but having a bit of grief
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09:08<NapoleonWils0n>i know ubuntu has an option to specify the drive to install grub too but cant find a simmilar option on debian
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09:08<NapoleonWils0n>when i run update-grub it installs grub to the internal drive
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09:09<NapoleonWils0n>is there a grub file i can specify which drive to install grub too
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09:16<martinf99>use grub-install /dev/DEVICENAME DEVICENAME=Name of the drive you want to install it. update-grub just updates the config in /boot/grub
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09:17<NapoleonWils0n>martinf99 tried grub-install /dev/sdb it adds an entry to grub on the internal drive
09:17<NapoleonWils0n>then i have to fix grub on the internal drive so i can boot linux on the internal
09:18<NapoleonWils0n>using grub3 and efi
09:18<NapoleonWils0n>grub2
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09:19<jmlongo>grub-install /dev/(your disk) is not working?
09:19<NapoleonWils0n>no tried half a dozen times
09:19<NapoleonWils0n>it changes grub on the internal drive
09:20<NapoleonWils0n>when i boot up in rescue mode and select root drive it promps me to mount boot as well
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09:20<NapoleonWils0n>maybe thats the problem its mounting internal /boot
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09:21<teatime>grub-install will indeed change the grub config that lives in /boot
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09:21<NapoleonWils0n>ubuntu has an option to specify the drive to install grub to
09:21<NapoleonWils0n>but dont see that during the install
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09:22<teatime>it does ask
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09:22<teatime>maybe running in expert mode will make it easier to find
09:22<NapoleonWils0n>i was running in exper mode
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09:22<teatime>but it sounds like you want it on both
09:22<josh_>hi - anyone have solutions for installing skype on stretch? I'm getting major dependency issues
09:23<NapoleonWils0n>i should be able to hold down alt on a mac and boot up in efi mode
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09:23<NapoleonWils0n>installed in efi mode and copied debian efi to /boot/efi/EFI/boot/bootx64.efi
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09:24<teatime>grub-install does work, but the location of /boot (or whatever partition contains grub config) is a grub config option that it uses
09:25<NapoleonWils0n>teatime is there a script in /etc/grub.d to specify the partition to install grub to
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09:29<teatime>looks like there's stuff to auto-detect it
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09:30<NapoleonWils0n>thats what i thought
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09:38<NapoleonWils0n>when i hold down alt i get an efi drive to boot to
09:39<NapoleonWils0n>it then drops me to the grub shell
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09:39<teatime>there's two parts to it
09:39<teatime>the device to put the boot loader on, and the partition to put the necessary files
09:40<NapoleonWils0n>right
09:40<NapoleonWils0n>when i do ls at the grub prompt it lists drives hd0 to hd2
09:41<NapoleonWils0n>and some labled hd0,got3
09:41<NapoleonWils0n>gpt3
09:41<NapoleonWils0n>gpt2 got1
09:41<NapoleonWils0n>gpt1
09:41<teatime>the former are drives, the latter partitions
09:41<NapoleonWils0n>right
09:42<NapoleonWils0n>do i need to specify the root drive in the grub prompt
09:42<teatime>been a while since I've had to mess with it, so if stuff has changed i might tell you wrong
09:42<teatime>but yes
09:43<teatime>but what grub calls the root drive is /boot, not /
09:43<teatime>so you'd do like
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09:43<NapoleonWils0n>ah ok
09:43<teatime>root (hd0,gpt1)
09:43<teatime>if that's /boot
09:43<NapoleonWils0n>have to figure out which is the external drive now
09:44<NapoleonWils0n>i have hd0 hd1 and hd2
09:44<NapoleonWils0n>internal must be hd0 i guess
09:45<NapoleonWils0n>i have an hd2,gpt1
09:45<teatime>that's probably internal
09:45<teatime>hd0 I mean
09:46<NapoleonWils0n>so hd0 is the internal and hd2 is the external i guess
09:46<teatime>most likely
09:46<teatime>how many physical internal drives do you have?
09:46<NapoleonWils0n>only 1 internal and 1 external
09:47<teatime>something's wrong with that
09:47<teatime>grub is seeing 3.
09:47<NapoleonWils0n>internal has an efi partition
09:48<teatime>I wouldn't think that'd appear as its own drive
09:48<NapoleonWils0n>its a macmini if that makes a diff
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09:49<NapoleonWils0n>id have thought the boot on the external should be hd2,gpt1
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09:50<NapoleonWils0n>so id do: root (hd2,gpt1)
09:50<teatime>grub can show you the files inside the partitions
09:50<teatime>if it helps you identify them
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09:50<NapoleonWils0n>i obviously need to do a bit of reading on grub commands
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09:51<teatime>it has tab completion
09:51<teatime>how were you booting earlier
09:51<teatime>to be able to do grub-install
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09:51<NapoleonWils0n>i installed with a bootloader
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09:52<teatime>'cause I think if you get into the system, have the correct /boot and possibly /boot/efi mounted (disclaimer: I have little experience w/ EFI), and run grub-install then update-grub, you should be able to reboot and have it work
09:52<NapoleonWils0n>then booted into rescue mode and installed grub and copied the efi file
09:52<NapoleonWils0n>but didnt ru update-grub
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09:52<NapoleonWils0n>everytime i ran grub-update it update grub on the internal drive
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09:54<teatime>did you have the right /boot mounted though?
09:54<NapoleonWils0n>when i mounted root in rescue it asked if i wanted to mount boot as well
09:55<NapoleonWils0n>my guess is that mount internal boot
09:55<NapoleonWils0n>so should select no
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09:55<teatime>in that case, it will make a /boot directory under /
09:56<teatime>I'm assuming you want /boot to be on the external drive too?
09:56<teatime>btw, why the external drive anyway?
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09:56<NapoleonWils0n>arch linux on internal drive
09:56<NapoleonWils0n>yes boot on external
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09:57<teatime>is the OS installed to the external drive too?
09:57<NapoleonWils0n>debian installed to external, arch on internal
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09:57<teatime>ah k, that makes some more sense.
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09:58<NapoleonWils0n>so i hold down alt and i can select debian in efi mode
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09:58<NapoleonWils0n>it then drops to the grub prompt
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09:59<NapoleonWils0n>just goin to make some tea
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10:19<NapoleonWils0n>thx teatime will read up on grub cheers mate
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13:14<floki>Hello, this channel for beginners?
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13:14<towo`>this channel is for debian
13:14<towo`>as the name suggest
13:15<floki>And i can asked for some issues?
13:15<floki>for my issues^
13:15<towo`>no one knows if you can
13:15<lostatwork>yeah ask your questions and wait for an answer
13:15<towo`>!ask
13:15<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
13:15<floki>Nice
13:15<floki>thx
13:16<floki>hydra use only with wordlist?
13:17<floki>I'm want to test my password
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14:07<alumno>hola
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14:10<floki>Hi
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14:20<floki>What better KDE or Gnome?
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14:20<mtn>floki, yes
14:20<teatime>it's a hotly debated matter of opinion
14:20<teatime>(KDE)
14:20<towo`>what is better, porsche or ferrari?
14:20<mtn>yes
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14:20<mtn>I will take either
14:21<floki>lol
14:21<floki>This was easy
14:21<floki>I'm use Gnome
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14:21<zoredache>I upgraded a 7.x system to 8.x and I am my /etc/fstab bind mounts are acting funny. They are acting like I am doing an rbind, which I do not want to do. Apparently this may have something to do with what systemd does for namespaces? Are there any easy work-arounds to make my bind mounts act the way they did under wheezy?
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14:25<simplegui>hello, please someone, if possible give me a link pointing to the official debian repos for apt-get, what I should have normally at /etc/apt/sources.list
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14:26<zoredache>simplegui: try this. http://httpredir.debian.org/
14:26<blast007>simplegui: for Jessie?
14:27<simplegui>zoredache: thanks :)
14:27<simplegui>blast007: yes, for the normal official stable release
14:27<blast007>!jessie sources.list
14:27<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
14:28<simplegui>million thanks :)
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14:43<floki>SEND adrian /home/floki/secret.tar.gz
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15:00<nikitasius>hi, is there channel to speak about gnupg?
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15:02<sney>nikitasius: #gnupg on chat.freenode.net, or if you have a usage question on a debian system you can ask here
15:02<nikitasius>sney thanks! im already on freenode and came here. freenode's channel keeping the silence..
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15:09<mais>hello, i have an issue when watching youtube video on 720p resolution
15:09<mais>i m getting spikes. If there anyone who wants to help and have spare time just say it :)
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15:16<musca>mais: don't wait for anyone, better start to present details of your config, desktop, application, hardware, driver, ...
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15:19<mais>i got this output http://pastebin.com/PmhP56Sr
15:21<musca>try http://paste.debian.net to earn more clicks
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15:24<mais>I m having spikes when watching youtube videos at 720p resolution and above. this is my hardware: http://paste.debian.net/405935/ and this is additional info: http://paste.debian.net/405934/
15:27<jmcnaught>mais: what's a spike?
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15:28<mais>its not smooth. it stops and plays again but the sound goes smooth
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15:30<jmcnaught>mais: which browser? are you using flash? do other sites do the same, or just youtube?
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15:31<mais>jmcnaught: firefox and chromium, no flash installed, havent tried other sites
15:32<mais>i believe its about resolution cause on 480 resolution is just fine
15:32<dumbl3d0re>I got a little annoying problem with my laptop. I've my laptop lid closed and two displays connected to it, but when I disconnect the laptop from the monitors the laptop's screen isn't "activating". It's a Thinkpad T430. Any suggestions?
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19:57<judd>Backporting package gpgv2 in sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libassuan-dev (>= 2.4.1).
19:57<markybob>,checkbackport gpgv2
19:57<judd>Backporting package gpgv2 in sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libassuan-dev (>= 2.4.1).
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21:50<EarlGrey>hello world
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22:24<pc>@search quotas for women in politics
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22:25<Nixeo>hi
22:27<Nixeo>anyone here?
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22:34<R4F_Debian>Hi all, I need a help from anyone who uses chromium in Debian Jessie 8.3. Occurs that I've installed the extension 'Video Download Helper' in chromium, but this add-on doesn't open as it opens fine in Iceweasel. Anyone knows which is IRC for chromium, please ? I made a research through internet and just found irc for google chrome. Is that the same to chromium ?
22:37<R4F_Debian>#chromium (freenode) is not a Support Channel
22:37<r6ku>R4F_Debian: have you tried youtube-dl?
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22:39<Alam_Squeeze>Chromium is not the same as Google Chrome
22:39<R4F_Debian>Hi r6ku, is that a package for easy install in Debian Jessie ? 'apt-get install youtube-dl' ?
22:39<Alam_Squeeze>Google Chrome is based on Chromium, but they are not the same
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22:39<R4F_Debian>Hi Alam_Squeeze, as I suspected
22:40<r6ku>R4F_Debian: yes
22:40<R4F_Debian>the problem is that I'm trying to find the IRC for chromium, but, the only I've found (freenode), although it's named #chromium, is not a support channel
22:40<Alam_Squeeze>You can go to https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/ and download the DEB file to install Google Chrome and APT repos for it
22:41<R4F_Debian>let me try it here, r4ku
22:41<Alam_Squeeze>yea, youtube-dl, but you may need to get the testing/sid
22:41<Alam_Squeeze>since Youtube keep change their API
22:42<R4F_Debian>you mean including testing/sid repository in my sources.list, Alam_Squeeze ?
22:42<r6ku>there's a newer version of youtube-dl in backports fortunately
22:42<Alam_Squeeze>that may work for you if you going to stick to stable
22:43<R4F_Debian>so, I have to include the backports for 'youtube-dl' in my repository, r6ku, right ?
22:43<r6ku>yes, http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/
22:44<Alam_Squeeze>shot, you got to it first
22:46<Alam_Squeeze>if you have a GUI interface to Youtube without needing Flash, you can use MiniTube
22:46<R4F_Debian>ok r6ku, I will do it, but remains my doubt about why chromium is not opening download helper fine, as it is being opened without any problem in iceweasel
22:47<Alam_Squeeze>oh, you want to download videos
22:47<R4F_Debian>great, Alam_Squeeze, lots of video tutorials I can find in youtube
22:47<Alam_Squeeze>if you going to use youtube, use the -l option so the downloaded file is named after the Title-YID.mp4
22:48<Alam_Squeeze>you can also pass youtube-dl a playlist URL, so it will download all the videos in it
22:48<r6ku>it works on a lot of different sites besides youtube as well
22:48<R4F_Debian>I do it frequently in iceweasel, but chromium appears to have any problem using 'download helper'. And my Debian Jessie is running fine in every occasion and opens all the applications I installed on it
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22:49<R4F_Debian>yes, r6ku, can't understand why it's not running fine here....
22:50<Alam_Squeeze>now if only my Windows VM will let me open applications..
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22:50<R4F_Debian>I checked my Debian with 'debsums' for applications and their configuration files also. It's everything ok with my Debian
22:51<R4F_Debian>also ran 'dpkg - V' and it's fine. Also used 'visudo' and it doesn't reply any issue
22:52<R4F_Debian>I only use Debian, Alam_Squeeze, 9 Debian Installations here - 8 Jessie and one remaining wheezy
22:52<Alam_Squeeze>why wheezy?
22:53<R4F_Debian>curiosity, I compare its performance and features with Jessie, Alam_Squeeze
22:54<R4F_Debian>and have to make a large backup to make wheezy hd available for other Jessie installation
22:55<R4F_Debian>that's why this wheezy installation remains in one of my hard drives
22:55<R4F_Debian>and there was Debian potato too
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23:02<R4F_Debian>this line is for all backports for Debian, r6ku, or am I wrong ? deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie-backports main
23:02<R4F_Debian>I would like just the backports for 'youtube-dl'
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23:03<alex_>hi all
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23:04<R4F_Debian>The following NEW packages will be installed: rtmpdump youtube-dl - it exists in stable version also, r6ku
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23:05<R4F_Debian>but comes with this other package: rtmpdump
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23:06<ricardo>hi
23:06<r6ku>R4F_Debian: rtmpdump is fine, just remember to install backports version of youtube-dl
23:07<r6ku>iirc rtmpdump is needed to download video from streaming sites
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23:08<R4F_Debian>I see, r6ku, but in the case of youtube-dl, it was installed here through stable repository. It will be necessary to install backports version of youtube-dl ?
23:08<Learner>suuuuuup?
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23:09<r6ku>R4F_Debian: well yeah, it needs to be updated for it to keep working, websites change their APIs all the time you know
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23:11<R4F_Debian>oh, I see r6ku, what is the specific backport repo for youtube-dl, please ?
23:11<r6ku>R4F_Debian: you're on jessie, so jessie backports :)
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23:13<R4F_Debian>I only found this, as I showed you before: deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie-backports main
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23:13<r6ku>R4F_Debian: yeah, that's the one
23:13<R4F_Debian>isn't there a specific backport for youtube-dl in jessie ?
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23:15<r6ku>R4F_Debian: I'm not sure what you mean
23:15<R4F_Debian>sorry, r6ku, let me try to explain you better, just one moment, please
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23:17<R4F_Debian>r6ku, I used this line in my sources.list to update iceweasel to 44.0 version: deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ jessie-backports iceweasel-release
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23:18<R4F_Debian>it means, only iceweasel is updated, not other applications. Isn't there a specific jessie-backports for youtube-dl, as it exists for iceweasel ?
23:18<r6ku>R4F_Debian: oh, so that's what you meant. No, iceweasel is an exception, all the other backported software is in one repo
23:19<R4F_Debian>oh, I see ! I didn' know about that (iceweasel as an exception), made me surprise now
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23:20<r6ku>having backports enabled won't automatically install stuff you don't want, just ones you install yourself
23:21<R4F_Debian>oh, so, it's fine ! Only I include deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie-backports main without installing anymore else as pre-requisite ?
23:21<R4F_Debian>let me do it now, r6ku
23:22<R4F_Debian>And thanks for help !
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23:29<R4F_Debian>but remains the question about chromium and 'Video download helper', I will spend a bit more time in research in order to help Debian Project with this issue, r6ku. As I said to you, do you suspect there is any bug in chromium for Debian Jessie ?
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23:32<r6ku>R4F_Debian: probably not, it's more likely that it's a bug in video download helper, browser plugins do have to deal with multiple versions of browsers after all
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23:43<R4F_Debian>well, bug in chromium means mistakes made by Community in software included in stable Debian repositories, and it's not acceptable. Sorry, r6ku, it was not my intention suspect this Marvellous job, it was a mistake of explanation of mine
23:44<r6ku>R4F_Debian: did you get youtube-dl working?
23:45<R4F_Debian>not yet, I will check it now, I opened man youtube-dl and saw about the syntax command for it. Made me a bit confused here. Let me see which option I do have to use...
23:45<r6ku>R4F_Debian: you don't have to pick any options if you don't want to, the default settings are good enough
23:46<r6ku>R4F_Debian: just: youtube-dl <paste-url-here>
23:46<R4F_Debian>so, I type 'youtube-dl and URL where is located the video' and go on ?
23:46<r6ku>yup :)
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23:47<R4F_Debian>Great r6ku, as I always say: Debian Warriors are the Best ! I will try it now, let me see here....
23:49<R4F_Debian>This is the option I use for DE in my Debian Jessie, r6ku, if possible, take a look on it, please
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23:51<r6ku>?
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23:55<R4F_Debian>r6ku have you seen the url I've passed to yours ?
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23:56<R4F_Debian>Debian Jessie + Mate DE, Perfect Harmony !
23:56<r6ku>R4F_Debian: no, did it work though?
23:56<R4F_Debian>bye the way, it's downloading the specified file here
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23:57<R4F_Debian>[download] 100% of 27.09MiB in 04:24- Great ! Fast and precise, more than 'Video Download Helper'. Really Great !
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23:57<R4F_Debian>and I don't need to perform the task as superuser
23:58<r6ku>R4F_Debian: great, don't forget that you can download playlists too :)
23:59<R4F_Debian>oh, it's really nice this application ! I'm just searching for the downloaded file
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