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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-03-23

---Logopened Wed Mar 23 00:00:54 2016
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00:34<HillaryTrumpton>y no krita 2.9? it's over a year now
00:34<HillaryTrumpton>have to compile from source
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01:04<R4F_Debian>Hi all
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01:10<R4F_Debian>I've installed Firefox 'release' version, included the respective line in sources.list and installed jessie-backports for it. But didn't understand the last procedures, such as adding the archive key to my APT keyring. How to install pkg-mozilla-archive-keyring package for that ?
01:10<themill>R4F_Debian: you just install that package
01:12<R4F_Debian>Hi themill, I don't see you for a long time ! themill, in this case, after firefox installation, do I have to install apt-get install pkg-mozilla-archive-keyring_1.1_all ?
01:12<R4F_Debian>is that the command: apt-get install pkg-mozilla-archive-keyring_1.1_all ?
01:12<themill>no, the package name is pkg-mozilla-archive-keyring
01:13<R4F_Debian>I see, only this name without _1.1_all at the end...
01:13<R4F_Debian>let me try it here
01:14<R4F_Debian>is that normal, it replies the message: pkg-mozilla-archive-keyring is already the newest version
01:14<themill>that means you've already got it installed
01:15<R4F_Debian>ok themill, to check the key I use: gpg --check-sigs --fingerprint --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/pkg-mozilla-archive-keyring.gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg pkg-mozilla-maintainers
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01:15<R4F_Debian>is that the command ?
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01:21<R4F_Debian>themill, apparently it is everything ok with firefox here, just didn't understand why there are 2 signatures not checked due to missing keys
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01:22<R4F_Debian>But, thanks for support again, themill !
01:23<R4F_Debian>Bye themill. Bye all !
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03:47<islam>please
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04:04<HillnaldyClintrump>where is the efi bootable live cd of debian?
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04:11<yohano>hello debs
04:11<trump>sup
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05:22<ubuntu-studio>Hello
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05:23<ubuntu-studio>MY name is abhishek.
05:24<ubuntu-studio>some one see this
05:24<ubuntu-studio>please tell me sir or madam..
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05:29<phylophyl>ubuntu-studio, seen
05:30<jm_>!ubuntuirc phylophyl
05:30<dpkg>phylophyl: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
05:30<jm_>sorry if you are not the same person :)
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05:31<phylophyl>i am not :)
05:31<phylophyl>and the user left anyway
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06:03<abd32>Hello, I'm on Debian 8 (Jessie/stable) and Gnome 3.14.1 - how can I disable curtain users from accessing network interfaces/Internet (so that even Network Manager will not reanable it). Thank you very much!
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06:13<Walex>abd32: you need local firewall rules for that.
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06:14<Walex>abd32: there are several firewall rule generators. Note that you cannot prevent specific users from *receiving* network traffic, but you can prevent them from *sending* it, which should be good enough.
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06:24<abd32>Walex: (1) are firewall rules defined per user? (2) I need to prevent downloading....
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06:27<abd32>It sounds really strange that there is no way to block a specific user from accessing network cards...
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06:35<chubinou>Hi, I have some issues with network manager, which is seeing my partition containing /var/lib/NetworkManager as Read-Only
06:35<chubinou>the result is that I can't connect to new networks
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06:36<chubinou>my partition isn't read-only. I can create files in the folder
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06:38<chubinou>the logs from NetworkManager: http://pastebin.com/BUjvred0
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06:40<chubinou>in it I failed to create an access point (my_shared_connection) or to connect to a new network (macawyse)
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06:40<jm_>you could check with strace which return value open gets (i.e. if it's really EROFS, 30)
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06:44<Blaster04>Hi
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06:45<chubinou>jm_: open("/var/lib/NetworkManager/timestamps.PF92EY", O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0666) = -1 EROFS (Read-only file system)
06:45<jm_>chubinou: so it's not wrong then :)
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06:46<themill>chubinou: what's the output of "mount"
06:47<chubinou>http://paste.debian.net/418319/
06:47<chubinou>but /var is a symlink to /home/var
06:49<chubinou>The last file created in my /var/lib/NetworkManager is from the 18 feb and the hour correcpond to an apt upgrade
06:50<chubinou>http://paste.debian.net/418320/ (sory for the bloat)
06:50<chubinou>I'm using KDE on debian testing
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06:52<themill>odd
06:52<chubinou>a more readable output: http://paste.debian.net/418322/
06:54<chubinou>I can try to downgrade network-manager to 1.0.10-2+b1
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07:17<Walex>abd32: to prevent downloading, you can put in firewall rules per-userid as to sending, which prevents any effective connection to download sites
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07:39<ubuntu-studio>offline software install in ubuntustudio internet pc to without internet pc
07:39<ubuntu-studio>some one help me.. how..?
07:39<themill>ubuntu-studio: #ubuntu is on irc.freenode.net
07:40<ubuntu-studio>not opening in browser
07:42<jm_>right click on this irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu and go there
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07:44<neiljp>anyone use gufw?
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07:48<neiljp>I ran gufw as a regular user, but it won't unlock, claiming "Wrong identification" straight away, which makes me suspect that it's not running some 'acquire permissions' dialog at all...
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07:50<onyx>hi
07:51<onyx>how see topic?
07:51<onyx>i'm new in this world
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07:52<jm_>are you saying hexchat does not show it when you join the channel?
07:53<onyx>no..
07:53<grove>onyx: This is a support channel for debian, not for using irc, but if your client doesn't display it either when you enter a channel or at the top of the window, you can try /topic
07:54<onyx>help me please.. i want to learn
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07:55<grove>onyx: We just did, even though you're in the wrong channel
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07:56<onyx>which channel i choose?
07:56<onyx>sorry for my english..
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07:59<grove>I don't know italian and no chat channels where italian is spoken, but
07:59<grove>!chat
07:59<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
07:59<grove>!it
07:59<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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08:33<ubuntu-studio>how to extract a zip file on kali linux
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08:33<jm_>!kali
08:33<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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09:42<[E]sc>I have plasma-desktop 4.8.6 running on jessie but after like 45-60 minutes it spikes to 50% CPU usage and remains there until I kill the process. I tried looking around for a fix, but couldn't find one yet. any suggestions on how to fix this?
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09:51<lukas_>halo, dose somebody know a mailserver thats working with telnet or nc ?
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09:52<grove>lukas_: What do you mean? You should be able o connect to any mail server using telnet/nc
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09:52<lukas_>yes but i cant send a mail out.
09:52<lukas_>always getting a diconnect
09:54<grove>lukas_: What do you do, and what does the server respond?
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09:56<lukas_>server : wp.pl i get a conection the next step is helo localhost, its ok then i even get mail from and rcpt to ,both ok and the next step wenn i type in data the server says : 421 service temporaily unavailable
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10:00<lukas_>@grove server : wp.pl i get a conection the next step is helo localhost, its ok then i even get mail from and rcpt to ,both ok and the next step wenn i type in data the server says : 421 service temporaily unavailable
10:01<grove>lukas_: Show us the actual in-/output on a pastebin
10:01<lukas_>sorry dont know what you mean
10:01<grove>!pastebin
10:01<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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13:27<needToLearnALot>hey everyone... i am experiencing a problem when trying to install libraries through pip (for example numpy)[i know im supposed to install it through apt-get install python-numpy] but im facing this problem even when trying to install other non supported libraries. The error i see is: "RuntimeError: Broken toolchain: cannot link a simple C program". I'm using debian jesse. Thank you in advance
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13:29<wowaname->needToLearnALot do you have gcc and a linker (ld)?
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13:30<needToLearnALot>wowaname-, yep i have both
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13:31<wowaname->https://www.google.com/search?q=Broken+toolchain%3A+cannot+link+a+simple+C+program
13:31<wowaname->have you checked that?
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13:32<needToLearnALot>wowaname-, http://pastebin.com/MYTfmesa this is my error and yes i have thoroughly checked and tried all the google solutions but to no end
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13:32<wowaname->ah
13:32<oem>apt-get install --reinstall {pkg} does not restore any config files? rm -rfv /etc/nginx; apt-get install --reinstall nginx-common; dir structure created, but no config files? apt-get purge nginx-common and apt-get install nginx-common restored everything - how come?
13:33<wowaname->needToLearnALot yeah i've never encountered something like that; i'd check #python on freenode if you don't get a response here
13:33<wowaname->or if they have a channel for pip, then that
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13:34<needToLearnALot>wowaname-, ok ill try that, thanks!
13:34<wowaname->good luck
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13:40<lancelot>Hello, when i try to create a new mode in xrandr, it adds the mode to a different screen, how do i specify the desired screen?
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13:49<linux>hi
13:49<linux>pls help me
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13:49<sney>!ask
13:49<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:50<Guest8910>tg
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13:50<wowaname->too much for him
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14:26<jose>buen dia, soy un nuevo suario
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14:31<jmlongo>hola jose!
14:31<jmlongo>!es
14:31<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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14:44<jmlongo>I was too slow! :P
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15:26<descala>hello
15:26<retrospectacus>hi
15:26<jmlongo>hey descala
15:26<descala>does anyone know how to block emails with attached zip files which are viruses (js files inside zip) ?
15:27<descala>I use amavisd and clamav
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15:38<jthomas>Hello, we're trying to install the HTML Validator and Validator-Nu on a Deb8 machine. We can't get the Validator-Nu to build using OpenJava 1.7 nor OpenJava 1.8. Can anyone help me?
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15:40<sney>jthomas: do you have more details?
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15:40<jthomas>yes, getting a pastebin now
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15:45<jthomas>http://pastebin.ca/3409574
15:45<jthomas>thanks for looking sney
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15:46<sney>is it known to work with openjdk?
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15:47<jthomas>based on the two HowTos we're looking at, such as https://github.com/tlvince/w3c-validator-guide
15:47<jthomas>we've looked at plenty more as well
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15:48<jthomas>not just these two
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15:48<jthomas>lots of info out there about using this on Java 6 (Java 1.6) on an Ubuntu 12.04 but I've no interest in that
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15:53<sney>jthomas: the question is openjdk vs oracle/sun java. a lot of developers target the latter
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15:53<jthomas>Yes, all the instructions mention OpenJava
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15:57<sney>jthomas: no ideas, sorry. maybe #debian-java
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15:58<jthomas>thanks much!
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16:00<Yst>Some of my music files are behaving strangely on my mobile, so I'm trying to figure out what makes those files different from my laptop. Right now, I'm looking into the use or lack of use of ID3v2. How do I tell if ID3v2 is being used in a given MP3 file?
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16:01<jthomas>used, on the mobile? you'd have to ask in the mobile channel, prob not on the Debian server. But you could use Amarok or something to change the tags and see if the mobile picks those up.
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16:02<jthomas>I have a ton of mp3 files that my Android mobile shows with an Asian language, even tho ID3 and ID3v2 all look fine on my Debian setup. No idea what's the deal there.
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16:02<Yst>jthomas: No, if they're used in the file. I suppose "present" would be a better word that "used". I'm trying to test the files on my Debian 8 laptop.
16:03<Yst>I'm not sure how to get a client/server music setup. I tried that once, but got nowhere.
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16:03<jthomas>use Amarok or kid3 or something to see how they're tagged
16:04<Yst>Alright, I'll try those. Thank you!
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16:04<jthomas>command line: apt0itude search id3 << that should give some options
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16:17<Yst>jthomas: THank you, thank you, thank you! While some other applications were showing the meta data, they weren't showing whether it was being read from ID3v1 or ID3v2. Kid3 shows both separately though. I'm still not seeing a pattern yet, but mismatched information in one file explained why one of the many files is displaying different meta data on Debian than on the mobile.
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16:19<jthomas>yay great to hear you're getting closer. If you figure out why my music shows in Asian characters, lemme know!! :D
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16:49<Yst>jthomas: I just ran into a strange anomaly in some of my files. The ID3v1 and ID3v2 metadata doesn't match. Android is prefering one over the other, while applications on Debian are preferring the other. Maybe your titles don't match and one is in Asian characters?
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17:06<Tomy>Hola Todo Bien Alguien Con La net Del Gob
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17:17<Lemmata>hello, I'm trying to install a package that depends on Qt5Qml and Qt5Quick libraries. I have the libraries as .so files under /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ but there do not seem to be any corresponding .pc files in the pkgconfig directory. Does anyone know which dev packages correspond to these?
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17:24<itd>Lemmata: guessing: qtquick1-5-dev for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig/Qt5Declarative.pc and qtdeclarative5-dev for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig/Qt5Qml.pc
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17:27<Lemmata>itd: Bingo! I had qtquick1-5-dev but not qtdeclarative5-de, thank you very much!
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19:17<k-man>in xfce, i have saved my screen layout, but it doesn't get excecuted at startup time... do i have to manually add it as a startup item to run?
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19:18<k-man>if I manually run it from an xterm, then my correct screen layout is restored
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20:02<live>how is debian
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20:05<live>i use sparky now
20:06<live>byeee
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20:33<ach>well sparky
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21:46<DarkXTC>Hi guys. having a problem with cinnamon under debian stretch (testing). After login it says: "error do you want to restart it?" yes does nothing and no shows me a desktop but no window titles, taskbar and everything. already purged and reinstalled it but it doesn't help. And i have no idea where it logs something
21:46<Creak>Hi! How do you make to forward your local emails (the ones in /var/spool/mail/user) to your real email address?
21:47<jmcnaught>DarkXTC: try it with a different user account, it could be your user's settings. you might also get better support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
21:48<DarkXTC>it doesn't work with my private and work account :/ started after i tried installing steam with the i386 deps. already removed that but no luck
21:49<jmcnaught>Creak: one way to do this would be to configure your MTA (exim4 is installed by default but there are others) and then make an alias in /etc/aliases
21:49<jmcnaught>DarkXTC: heh, we're already on irc.oftc.net. you should ask in #debian-next, this channel's for stable only :)
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21:51<DarkXTC>i'll try my luck there ^^
21:51<Creak>thanks jmcnaught!
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22:00<Fox682-Pi>Testing
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22:03<DarkXTC>hm. if anyone has the same problem with cinnamon: removing nvidea helped xD
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22:07<DarkXTC>fox we can see your text^
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