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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-03-27

---Logopened Sun Mar 27 00:00:00 2016
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00:02<grantwu>somiaj: Okay, I'm going to try to do the thing with debootstrap
00:03<somiaj>grantwu: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en
00:03<somiaj>grantwu: which sounds like what your friend was suggestion. I geuss most of the install is in the initrd image
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00:07<grantwu>somiaj: I tried that, but network configuration took forever for strange reasons
00:08<somiaj>ahh
00:08<somiaj>check the current network configuration, do you happen to have hardware that needs non-free firmware?
00:08<grantwu>I do
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00:08<grantwu>I copied the initrd.gz and vmlinuz from the unofficial non-free firmare netinst iso though
00:08<somiaj>you may have to skip network configuration or there is an unoffical isntaller with non-free firmware if you are going to use nonfree anyways
00:09<somiaj>ahh
00:09<tomo>how to use the xchat
00:09<somiaj>tomo: seems like you are using it. This channel here is for asking for support with debian.
00:10<tomo>ok i see
00:10<grantwu>somiaj: Should copying that initrd.gz and vmlinuz have worked?
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00:13<somiaj>grantwu: I'm unsure as I have no experience. It could be the firmware is not inside the initrd, but it could be some other issue.
00:13<somiaj>grantwu: note you don't need the network to install, you could skip the network, do a base install, then copy over the firmware, and go from there
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03:07<CheetahPixie>Goodmorning.
03:07<CheetahPixie>I have here a Thinkpad R50e with an IPW2200.
03:07<CheetahPixie>Thing is: iwlist scan finds networks, but Wicd doesn't.
03:07<CheetahPixie>(Debian 8 LXDE)
03:07<CheetahPixie>8.3 to be exact.
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03:12<CheetahPixie>oop
03:12<CheetahPixie>got it
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03:13<CheetahPixie>Turns out the wireless device is eth1.
03:13<CheetahPixie>Wicd didn't know that and seemed to expect wlan.
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03:41<omi>Hello, in Jessie, in Gnome sound settings, stereo audio (analog) stopped showing as an output, only S/PDIF available. in alsamixer the stereo audio is present. Is this a known issue?
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04:01<vaio>i have probs too..blocking nvidia from loading as sound handler i get nothing..and no other hardware to reassign to
04:01<vaio>omi, seems as because you still show some hardware providing sound..either you have more than one and one blew out leaving with less options..and that's not it probably...so you got to fiddle with settings or do warm and hard reboots
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04:06<vaio>sorry never saw a setting for volatile/persistent looks like i join part often..it sure can't be netsplits wtf
04:07<vaio>test elsewhere sorry
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04:39<vortek_>how do i get java to work?
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04:41<chris_se>work in what context?
04:41<vortek_>i fallowed the wiki guide
04:41<vortek_>does not work period
04:42<chris_se>which wiki guide? what does "not work" mean?
04:42<vortek_>https://wiki.debian.org/Java
04:42<chris_se>(in what context? browser plugin? running java programs directly? java web start? something else?)
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04:43<vortek_>oh sorry, on web pages that use java
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04:45<chris_se>so I just installed icedtea-plugin on my system, and going to an example web page with an applet, (I got this from wikipedia: http://openastexviewer.net/web/thinlet.html ) it works for me
04:45<chris_se>I'm using firefox/iceweasel, so I did have to enable the plugin (in about:plugins ) first
04:45<vortek_>ok
04:46<chris_se>so what does "not work" mean in your case?
04:46<chris_se>what happens?
04:46<vortek_>web pages that use java won't load
04:47<chris_se>what do you mean "won't load"?
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04:47<chris_se>the problem is that your error description is far too vague to be useful to diagnose your problem
04:48<vortek_>here this is what i get on mail.com
04:48<vortek_>Please enable JavaScript to experience the full functionality of mail.com.
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04:48<chris_se>vortek, Java is not JavaScript, they are two separate things
04:48<vortek_>oh sorry
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04:48<chris_se>JavaScript is integrated in most browsers and doesn't need a plugin
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04:49<chris_se>Java is something that's on the decline for in-browser use (starting with Java 9 the browser plugin is actually deprecated) but would need a plugin for some pages (see the link I posted where I testeed an applet)
04:49<vortek_>yeah iceweasel dont work and chromium don't worrk even after fallowing the debian wiki for it
04:49<vortek_>ok
04:49<vortek_>thank you :))
04:49<chris_se>so I don't know about mail.com, but if the message appears, could it be that you disabled javascript in your browser?
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04:50<chris_se>or have an extension installed that selectively enables javascript on a per-webpage basis? (such as NoScript for Iceweasel/Firefox)
04:50<vortek_>no it don't show up in about:plugins
04:50<chris_se>plugin != extension
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04:51<vortek_>k
04:51<chris_se>go to: about:addons and click on "extensions" in iceweasel
04:51<chris_se>that shows you the browser extensions installed (no idea about chromium)
04:51<vortek_>java is not listed in iceweasel or chormium
04:51<chris_se>wait. what? do you want to enable javascript or java now?
04:51<vortek_>yes
04:52<vortek_>javascript
04:52<chris_se>forget about java then
04:52<chris_se>it's not the same thing
04:52<chris_se>the only relation is the name
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04:54<chris_se>again: most browsers come with javascript out of the box, that includes chromium and firefox/iceweasel. if a web page complains, then a) either you have disabled it in the settings of the browser or b) you have an extension installed that disables javascript on a per-website basis
04:54<chris_se>(or the website is buggy)
04:54<chris_se>since that is not the default setting, you should know about that, because you would have had to either change a setting or install something
04:54<Glanzmann>Hello; I have google chrome installed on Debian jessie 8 amd64. When I do a apt-get update I get: https://pbot.rmdir.de/E3jtT067u52eyveV3vs2yA Any idea where the error is coming from and why it tries to get the i386?
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04:55<vortek_>ok ii think i know what it is
04:55<vortek_>i installed noscript lol
04:55<chris_se>vortek_, well, there you have it
04:56<Ouroboros>is there a procedure for installing debian from the hdd?
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04:56<chris_se>Glanzmann, that's a bug in how skype is packaged for debian
04:56<chris_se>err chrome I mean
04:56<Glanzmann>Ouroboros: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en
04:56<vortek_>chris_se, hehe
04:57<chris_se>Glanzmann, so what you can do is the following: edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list as root
04:57<Ouroboros>Glanzmann: ah right
04:57<chris_se>and change deb http://.... to deb [arch=amd64] http://...
04:57<chris_se>(basically, insert [arch=amd64] after deb)
04:58<chris_se>note that chrome auto-generates that file, so if they don't fix it, at some point that error will come back
04:58<Glanzmann>chris_se: Thank you, that works.
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04:58<Glanzmann>chris_se: I already deleted the file and put in my sources list, but now I know how to fix it. Thank you.
04:58<chris_se>no, don't do that
04:59<chris_se>that file will be recreated by some script coming with chrome
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04:59<chris_se>(underlying problem was btw. that chrome dropped 32bit builds, but they didn't update their script to tell apt to only use the 64bit stuff - and they also removed the 32bit part of their repository)
05:00<Glanzmann>I see.
05:01<Ouroboros>with booting installer from hdd, am i likely to encounter any problems in an VPS situation? like might they have some restrictions on modifying the MBR or something
05:01<Ouroboros>i basically want to replace whatever debian image they have with a cleanly installed one
05:01<chris_se>Ouroboros, what kind of VPS? typically running the installer from hdd according to the manual is NOT something you'd want to do in a VPS setting
05:02<yufw>what is the tracker-store process, it takes 1/4 of memory on my machine, even more than firefox
05:02<chris_se>Ouroboros, can you boot into a rescue system from your provider? then you could manually debootstrap your system
05:02<Ouroboros>dunno
05:02<chris_se>yufw, that's part of gnome's desktop search
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05:03<Ouroboros>chris_se: is that much different?
05:03<chris_se>is what much different from what?
05:04<Ouroboros>from the disk bootstrapping method
05:04<yufw>chris_se: will it always take that much memory, or just one-time, because this is a newly installed debian
05:04<chris_se>Ouroboros, yes
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05:05<chris_se>yufw, no idea, not a GNOME user. you can disable it by installing the tracker-gui package and modifying the settings
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05:05<yufw>chris_se: ok, i'll check that out, thanks
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05:06<chris_se>Ouroboros, the method mentioned in the manual (which still requires physical access to the system unless you can preseed the installer, which is non-trivial) actually starts a debian installer from the hard disk, with which you can then install debian like from a CD/USB/...
05:07<chris_se>debootstrapping means that you do everything manually
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05:07<chris_se>(which is quite complicated, because you can't automate much, and it would take me quite a long time to explain that)
05:07<Ouroboros>chris_se: why does it require physical access? cant i just rewrite grub menu and reboot?
05:07<chris_se>also, depending on how the VPS integrates their boot process there might be additional complications
05:08<chris_se>Ouroboros, well, do you have any access besides SSH?
05:08<chris_se>(some web-based console or so?
05:08<Ouroboros>not sure
05:08<Ouroboros>i dont have this provideer now, so
05:08<Ouroboros>(its ovh)
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05:09<Ouroboros>there is some management interface, but i dont know if it includes an actual console
05:09<Ouroboros>presumably it does though
05:10<chris_se>well, according to the video on https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/manager-web.xml they do have KVM console support
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05:12<Ouroboros>bleh, this is going to be a mess
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05:14<Ouroboros>chris_se: is there a video on that page? doesnt work for me :/
05:14<chris_se>does for me *shrug*
05:14<chris_se>but it doesn't show much
05:14<chris_se>and the KVM doesn't appear to support external drives
05:15<chris_se>BUT it does appear to provide a view on the system console, which is equivalent to physical access
05:15<Ouroboros>yeah
05:15<chris_se>to the method from the manual _should_ work
05:15<Ouroboros>i see what you mean why i need physical access
05:15<Ouroboros>since the installer needs that, duh :)
05:16<chris_se>however, there's a catch
05:16<Ouroboros>well, the question is how does their boot process work
05:16<Ouroboros>i read that it might be PXE based
05:17<chris_se>so if they don't have a separate /boot partition, the method described in the debian manual won't work
05:17<Ouroboros>why does it need to be separate?
05:17<chris_se>oh actually no, it doesn't
05:17<chris_se>I just realized
05:17<Ouroboros>as i understand it, it reads the stuff into ram disk and then i can nuke the hdd
05:19<chris_se>yes, sorry
05:19<chris_se>was thinking of the normal installer, but the manual suggests the netboot one, which does use a RAM disk
05:19<chris_se>ok, this is a sign that I really should go and buy some breakfast because I can't think straight :)
05:20<chris_se>but yeah, it should work, and from what I saw of the video, if you screw up, you can just nuke your instance and reinstall one of their images from the control panel, so you should be all set
05:20<Ouroboros>oh sure
05:20<Ouroboros>worst case scenario, i waster $3.50
05:20<Ouroboros>(yes, thats the actual price ;)
05:21<chris_se>I saw
05:21<Ouroboros>there is a chance they even have custom isos to begin with, their docs are kinda vague
05:21<chris_se>just don't expect it to be lightning fast at that price ;)
05:22<chris_se>anyway, brb
05:22<Ouroboros>thanks
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08:03<arq>helllo. i have a problem with my network on debian jessie ... ive installed the system on my desktop pc and it works fine. i use the system only through ssh in my bedroom. i can access the system and it works really fine. but the system always loses the internet connection. im connected via ssh, but if a want to make a apt-get install or ping oder something i have to do /etc/init.d/network restart twice. after that internet connection w
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08:06<arq>oh ive lost internet connection again, but this time i didnt do anything ...
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08:10<arq>ha ... if i start a ping when internet connection is working, ping will run until i stop them. but if i start a new ping after that, internet connection will be lost
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08:24<blast007>arq: is it wired or WiFi?
08:25<arq>wired
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08:26<blast007>and is it losing just the connection to the Internet (as in, to websites and other external content) or is it completely losing its network connection where even your SSH drops?
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08:26<arq>its hp dc7900 usdt ... its directly connected with my router ...
08:26<arq>no ssh works fine
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08:29<arq>ha its a dns problem ... i cant ping my domain, but the ip of my webserver
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08:39<peter1138>ps aux
08:39<peter1138>doh
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08:52<mic> /topic
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09:31<Stranger>hello
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10:08<Posterdati>hi
10:08<Posterdati>I've got a problem with jessie on amd64 + systemd: A start job is running for Enable support for additional exe... I experienced freezing with debian latest stable kernel and kernel 4.5.0
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10:09<chris_se>Posterdati, what exactly happens?
10:09<Brigo>Posterdati, could you paste some logs in paste.debian.net?
10:09<chris_se>does it not boot at all?
10:09<chris_se>or does it just wait 90s (or something like that) before continuing to boot
10:10<chris_se>(if it boots, see Brigo's comment about logs)
10:10<Posterdati>chris_se: bouncing red star and unusable system: no login, no network and so on
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10:10<chris_se>for how long?
10:11<Posterdati>endless
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10:11<Posterdati>I had to force power off with the button or use sysrq
10:12<Brigo>Posterdati, you can turn on the emergency console adding systemd.unit=rescue.target in the kernel boot line.
10:12<chris_se>even > 90s? from the message /lib/systemd/system/binfmt-support.service appears to be the culprit and that has default dependencies as well as the default job timeout, which is 90s
10:12<Posterdati>chris_se: then?
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10:13<chris_se>also, you could probably boot by masking the service beforehand (systemctl mask binfmt-support.service), then you could unmask it during a running system and see what's going on
10:13<chris_se>also, do you have files in /usr/lib/binfmt.d and/or /etc/binfmt.d?
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10:13<Brigo>chris_se, for masking the service you first need a console, i think.
10:14<chris_se>boot with an older kernel that doesn't have this problem?
10:14<chris_se>but yeah, if that isn't an option, use your rescue shell
10:15<Posterdati>//usr/lib/binfmt.d/ is empty
10:15<Posterdati>"/usr/lib/binfmt.d/" is empty
10:16<Posterdati>"/etc/binfmt.d/" is empty
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10:17<Brigo>Posterdati, try booting with systemd.unit=rescue.target and check then the logs for a clue.
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10:17<Posterdati>ok
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10:18<Brigo>Posterdati, those new kernels are from Debian?
10:18<chris_se>oh, I just realized that binfmt-support.service is from the binfmt-support package and not systemd proper (which has an extra mechanism) - binfmt-support looks at /var/lib/binfmts/
10:18<lacene_>hello
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10:29<Posterdati>Brigo: 3.16 was from debian, the 4.5.0 from kernel.org
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10:30<Brigo>Posterdati, And you got the same error with both kernels?
10:30<Posterdati>Brigo: I found that Process /bin/plymouth could not be created
10:30<Posterdati>Brigo: both kernel
10:30<Brigo>created?
10:30<Posterdati>Brigo: I found that Process /bin/plymouth could not be executed
10:31<Brigo>does such process exist?
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10:32<Posterdati>no
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10:33<Posterdati>plymouth is not installed on my system!!!
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10:35<Brigo>Posterdati, not installed or removed?
10:35<Posterdati>never installed it on my system
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10:36<Brigo>Posterdati, so the output of dpkg -l plymouth is not found?
10:37<Posterdati>I'm installing it now
10:37<Brigo>you shouldn't need it by default.
10:37<chris_se>the system should boot regardless of whether plymouth is installed
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10:38<chris_se>it's a nice splash screen and boot I/O multiplexer, but it's not required in the vast majority of cases
10:38<chris_se>(you do need it with systemd and cryptsetup outside initramfs)
10:39<Posterdati>let's see what will happen
10:39<Brigo>chris_se, maybe you can find it in archive.debian.org
10:39<Posterdati>if it will still give me problem I will rip off systemd
10:40<chris_se>the problem doesn't appear to be systemd related
10:40<chris_se>but something that systemd tries to start that hangs
10:40<chris_se>(which could be any service on your system)
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10:41<chris_se>but anyway, did you try booting with binfmt-support.service masked? to see if that really is it?
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10:46<Posterdati>worst, now I lost the console :(
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10:49<Posterdati>masked binfmt-support.service
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10:49<Posterdati>rebooting
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10:52<Posterdati>booted!
10:52<chris_se>yeah, so apparently your new kernel doesn't like what binfmt-support does
10:52<Posterdati>got a working kdm
10:53<chris_se>so what you should try is, as root: update-binfmts --enable (that's what binfmt-support.service does at boot)
10:53<Posterdati>chris_se: even the old kernel doesn't work then
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10:53<chris_se>that will likely hang, but maybe that will give you an indication of what's wrong
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10:54<chris_se>because masking the service just tapers over the problem but doesn't solve it
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10:57<Posterdati>systemctl enable binfmt-support.service
10:57<Posterdati>Synchronizing state for binfmt-support.service with sysvinit using update-rc.d...
10:57<Posterdati>Executing /usr/sbin/update-rc.d binfmt-support defaults
10:57<Posterdati>Executing /usr/sbin/update-rc.d binfmt-support enable
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11:25<Posterdati>seem solved
11:25<Posterdati>strange!
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11:26<Posterdati>chris_se: I did update-binfmts as you suggested
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11:28<chris_se>and no error?
11:28<Posterdati>no
11:28<chris_se>weird
11:28<chris_se>no idea then
11:29<chris_se>did you unmask the unit? (systemctl unmask binfmt-support.service) and reboot again?
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11:29<Posterdati>chris_se: I did enable
11:30<chris_se>not sure that's sufficient, could you check systemctl status binfmt-support.service
11:30<chris_se>that will tell you if it's enabled, disabled or masked
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11:30<chris_se>(second line, "Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/binfmt-support.service; XXXX)", where XXXX is the state)
11:30<Posterdati>Loaded: loaded
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11:31<Posterdati>Loaded: loaded (... enabled)
11:31<chris_se>ah good, then it's not masked
11:31<chris_se>and Active: active (exited) I presume?
11:31<Posterdati>inactive (dead)
11:31<chris_se>oh, then it wasn't started at boot
11:31<chris_se>well, you'd need to reboot to see if it works
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11:33<Posterdati>rebooting
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11:35<Posterdati>kdm greeter!
11:35<chris_se>log in and check the status of binfmt-support.service
11:35<chris_se>to be sure it was started
11:35<Posterdati>yes
11:35<chris_se>if it was: no idea what your problem was, but glad it's fixed :)
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11:36<Posterdati>green ball!
11:36<Posterdati>Active: active (exited)
11:36<chris_se>:)
11:37<chris_se>not very satisfying if you want to know what happened, but at least it works now :)
11:37<Posterdati>I switched from nvidia proprietary module to nouveau, my card is not supported by latest nvidia kernel module
11:37<chris_se>that shouldn't have any effect in this regard
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11:37<Posterdati>yes
11:37<chris_se>at worst, your graphical login wouldn't come up, and you'd get a text mode login
11:38<anonymous>Hello
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11:38<chris_se>hello
11:38<Posterdati>hi
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11:38<Posterdati>chris_se: seems to work!
11:38<chris_se>Posterdati, btw. wait a few weeks, and linux 4.5 will probably be in jessie-backports
11:39<Posterdati>chris_se, Brigo thanks people
11:39<anonymous>Is this SAFE Chat -_-
11:39<chris_se>what do you mean by safe? this is a support channel for debian
11:39<Brigo>Posterdati, np :)
11:40<chris_se>Posterdati, also np :)
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11:40<anonymous>Hmm
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11:42<chris_se>well, apparently he though that support for debian is not safe ;-)
11:42<Posterdati>Hmm
11:43<Posterdati>maybe he was running systemd too
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12:27<n-st>hi, i've created /etc/update-motd.d on jessie and populated it with the 00-header script used by ubuntu, but it doesn't show up when i connect via ssh...
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12:28<n-st> /etc/pam.d/sshd contains session optional pam_motd.so motd=/run/motd.dynamic, but it seems to create /run/motd instead
12:28<n-st>what am i missing here?
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14:14<crtrmai>!list
14:14<dpkg>crtrmai: vedi http://packages.debian.org/
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14:37<austino>what do need to do if firefox refuses to integrate xdm
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14:41<chris_se>what do you mean xdm?
14:41<chris_se>(xdm is a display manager)
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14:49<blawiz>hmm i installed stretch, which the web-site says it testing, but 'lsb_release -a' says its sid(unstable)
14:49<sney>testing and sid are interrelated
14:50<sney>/etc/debian_version for instance will tell you 'stretch/sid'
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14:51<blawiz>sney: aha :]
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14:57<remi>Hi
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15:52<punkgeek>how can i disable show this massege after the grub? Loading initial ramdisk ...
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15:55<rudi_s>punkgeek: Why?
15:56<punkgeek>because i have dirty boot
15:56<rudi_s>?
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16:00<jmcnaught>punkgeek: if that's your biggest problem you should be grateful, and go outside or something :P
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16:01<punkgeek>:D
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16:11<jelly>punkgeek: you'd probably have to change your boot loader's code to get rid of it, the boot loader is the one loading the kernel and initramfs from disk
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16:15<punkgeek>see this video http://dl1.shatelland.com/files/841d54e3-deac-46b1-8a74-6ae329b5dc86/83865773-a4c2-4a95-a190-ed00887d8ffc
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16:20<chris_se>punkgeek, you can edit /etc/grub.d/10_linux and comment out the lines you can find in https://paste.debian.net/419370/
16:20<chris_se>(comment out all of them)
16:21<chris_se>afterwards, run update-grub
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17:19<valterze>!lista
17:19<valterze>!list
17:19<dpkg>valterze: vedi http://packages.debian.org/
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18:05<wargreen>hi here!
18:06<Texou>hi
18:07<jack>Hey guys, I would like to have HDMI setup on my laptop, where should I go?
18:08<Texou>it's a kernel module
18:08<Texou>are you sure it's not enabled?
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18:09<jack>Texou I wouldn't know, I'm fairly new to Linux, my touchpad is barely working...
18:10<wargreen>after an upgrade, all my dkms modules won't compile. the headers seem not found, but i've triple-check, and the headers package is here... someone have any idea?
18:10<jack>When I plug into TV nothing happens
18:10<Texou>jack: dmesg says nothing when you plug-in?
18:11<Texou>wargreen: Debian Jessie?
18:11<jack>Yes sir
18:12<jack>Texou: dmesg?
18:12<Texou>jack: yes
18:12<wargreen>Texou: debian sid, with a custom 4.1.3 and 4.4.4 kernel. (yes, i prefere when it's complicated...)
18:12<teatime>wargreen: do you have the linux-headers package matching your running kernel installed?
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18:13<teatime>oh.
18:13<Texou>jack: try xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768 --pos 0x0 --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x768 --pos 0x0 from a graphical terminal
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18:14<Texou>wargreen: and what release isn't built?
18:14<wargreen>teatime yes i've the two linux-headers packages installed. i run the 4.1.3 for now, and it's this one than won't build the dkms modules
18:15<Texou>jack: xrandr says what is connected, then try the abour command "xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768 --pos 0x0 --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x768 --pos 0x0" replacing VGA1 with your HDMI you see in the list
18:15<Texou>wargreen: what kind of errors?
18:15<wargreen>all seem good for the 4.4.4, but the nvidia-kernel-dkms build (but i think it's another story)
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18:16<jack>Texou: Thank You
18:16<Texou>wargreen: the log says something?
18:16<Texou>jack: yw
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18:18<wargreen>Texou : i don't know where find more information than "kernel sources for the currently runing kernek does notseem to be installed"
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18:18<Texou>wargreen: generally the dkms says to you "see /(ar/log" for more info with appropriate file
18:21<wargreen>Texou, i don't see anything in dmesg or syslog
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18:23<Texou>wargreen: try rebuilding and analysis the output
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18:23<magovalter>buonasera a tutti
18:23<magovalter>!list
18:23<dpkg>magovalter: vedi http://packages.debian.org/
18:23<Texou>magovalter: ciao :)
18:25<wargreen>Texou : dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel-dkms don't give more information
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18:26<Texou>wargreen: and if you remove then re-install
18:27<wargreen>hummm. remove the nvidia package?
18:27<wargreen>i've already re-install the linux-headers-* package
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18:28<wargreen>.L. and nothing more
18:28<wargreen>and now i haven't any working nvidia module
18:28<Texou>wargreen: and /var/log/apt doesn't help?
18:30<wargreen>i've just try, and no, there is no more information
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18:31<Texou>wargreen: hmmm :(
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18:32<wargreen>it seem to me than the build is'nt launched since the dkms script don't find the headers
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18:32<Texou>wargreen: have you -headers-common installed?
18:33<wargreen>hu, no
18:33<Texou>could explain
18:33<Texou>linux-headers-$version-common
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18:34<wargreen>but it's a custom kernel, and these versions aren't packaged by debian
18:34<Texou>wargreen: sure? not at all?
18:35<Texou>that would explain too
18:35<Texou>wargreen: check on snapshot.debian.org if there's not a re;ease, at least headers
18:36<Texou>-common are for a branch iirc, not a preiise !elease
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18:36<wargreen>sure. but all have worked fine until now
18:36<wargreen>(with all the dkms-stuff)
18:37<Texou>maybe sid changed something in kernel or dkms
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18:38<wargreen>ho, it's news rt kernels in the repos.. maybe i don't need anymore my custom kernel?
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18:43<Texou>wargreen: let's hope
18:43<wargreen>ooops, kernel panic
18:44<wargreen>at boo(
18:44<Texou>wargreen: lol
18:44<Texou>weird with a Debian kernel
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20:05<wargreen>Texou: the 4.4.0 rt from the repo seem work fine and dkms also. but one of my hard drive will die in few time
20:05<wargreen>thanks for your help!
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20:06<Texou>wargreen: yw
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20:30<ritek>chris_se: the audio problem was fixed when I upgraded from stable to testing, along with some super fast video playback problem l also had.
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20:31<ritek>chris_se: things seem to be working good so far
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20:36<jadz>good
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20:38<Texou>does someone use pidgin-twitter?
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22:43<dave>hello
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22:44<Guest9423>hello, i have a question about debian
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22:47<teatime>!ask
22:47<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
22:49<Guest9423>how can i set up debian jessie to run in two different languages? where i am given the opportunity to choose between them
22:50<teatime>hrm, well step #1 would definitely be running `dpkg-reconfigure locale` as root and select the various locales you want to support (use the .UTF-8 variant of each)
22:51<teatime>after that, I'm not quite sure. like, e.g., how to select which to use on-login.
22:51<teatime>but it's definitely possible! :)
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22:52<Guest9423>that's a step in the right direction! thanks!
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22:53<teatime>sorry, it's locales (plural)
22:53<jmcnaught>Guest9423: there are also task-$lang packages for various packages that will pull in language packs for that language. for example task-french and task-french-desktop. The desktop environment that you use probably also has an option in its settings (at least Gnome does)
22:54<jmcnaught>Guest9423: there's some more info about locales here: https://wiki.debian.org/Locale
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22:57<Guest9423>alright, I believe it has worked, thanks, guys!
22:58<Guest9423>I've just to reboot to see if it actually takes effect
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23:00<leslie>it has indeed worked, the language bit
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23:03<teatime>hrm, well. that was easier than expected.
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