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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-03-29

---Logopened Tue Mar 29 00:00:03 2016
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04:57<rms>hi? (?
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04:58<rms>Hi??
04:58<triciad>hi
04:59<Wulf>hi (-:
04:59<musca>rms visits us?
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05:02<rms>:?
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05:03<musca>!rms
05:03<dpkg>i heard rms is a hacker name of Richard Stallman, founder of Free Software Foundation (fsf), (co)author of the GNU General Public licence(s), and GNU philosophy in general.
05:04<rms>What D:
05:04<Wulf>"rms" is actually "Nickname information for rms (Matt Lee)"
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05:09<rms>Eh.. hi(??)
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05:10<Wulf>rms: ¿te hablas ingles?
05:11<rms>Si(?
05:11<jmcnaught>rms: this is a tech support channel, if you just want to chat there's a #moocows channel
05:11<Wulf>Then stop babbling like a moron.
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10:13<anonymous>hooooo sssalvee
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10:15<anonymous>weee
10:15<anonymous>ciao
10:15<musca>ciao anonymous
10:15<anonymous>ciao musca
10:15<anonymous>sei hacker?
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10:22<lair82>Hello All, I have a few PC's running wheezy right now, and I am trying to modify the umask value in the /etc/login.defs file. I can modify the file just fine, I set it at "0011" then I reboot the PC, and from the terminal I run "umask -S" and I still get "-rwx rx rx", why is this not taking effect?
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10:34<Wulf>lair82: what does "umask" without params show?
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10:36<scootergrisen>What is the correct way to get libpugixml-dev on Debian Jessie when i need a newer version then the package manager provides?
10:37<scootergrisen>I need it to build FileZilla
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10:38<Wulf>scootergrisen: and you can't use the existing filezilla package?
10:38<Wulf>too old?
10:39<scootergrisen>I want to build FileZilla
10:39<scootergrisen>To test newest translation
10:40<retrospectacus>use a stretch/sid vm
10:40<scootergrisen>Is that really the best way?
10:41<Wulf>scootergrisen: you can try to install the newer libpugixml-dev package, e.g. with "pinning" or so. But in my opinion, this always causes trouble
10:41<retrospectacus>definitely, assuming you don't want to wreck your jessie install
10:41<scootergrisen>Is running in VM like running inside a window?
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10:42<Wulf>scootergrisen: something as simple as a chroot environment may suffice
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10:42<retrospectacus>it would normally appear in a window, yes
10:42<retrospectacus>vbox or so
10:43<Wulf>why do you need a window for a vm?!
10:43<scootergrisen>I dont know havent tryed it
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10:46<retrospectacus>scootergrisen: something like this
10:46<retrospectacus>http://www.brianlinkletter.com/installing-debian-linux-in-a-virtualbox-virtual-machine/
10:46<lair82>Wulf, it says "0022"
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10:47<Wulf>lair82: why do you want to change it? and why to 0011?
10:47<retrospectacus>scootergrisen: install using your Jessie installer ISO, but don't install the Desktop env or other tasks. Then upgrade to stretch (ask the dpkg robot here about jessie->stretch). Then you can install a DE if you like
10:47<lair82>I have tried it symbolicly as well, I have "UMASK = u=rwx,go=rw", and it still gave me 0022 after I re-booted it again.
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10:51<lair82>I am using Debian Wheezy as the OS for CNC control (Linuxcnc), All of my machines are networked together, so our supervisor can make his programs in the office, and drop them into whichever machine he needs. and I have realized that when we open and edit a program at the machine, it modifies the permissions of the file so it no longer has write access for groups and others, so the supervisor cannot get into the machine from his of
10:51<lair82>fice, and copy the program back out, due to the editing
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10:52<retrospectacus>scootergrisen: by tasks I mean software groups. That is this screen http://i1.wp.com/www.brianlinkletter.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/b-VirtualBox-7-28.png
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10:52<retrospectacus>just choose standard system utilities. SSH might be handy too
10:53<lair82>If I copy a program into the wheezy machine, with "-rwxrwxrwx" permissions, then open it and make changes, then save it, the permissions get changed to "-rwxr--r--"
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10:53<retrospectacus>scootergrisen: not having DE will speed up the install and upgrade a lot
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10:57<scootergrisen>But can i run the programs then?
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10:57<scootergrisen>Like FileZilla
10:57<retrospectacus>scootergrisen: you can install a DE in stretch if you want to
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10:58<retrospectacus>doing this after the upgrade will be 2x faster
10:58<scootergrisen>Ok you wanted me to first don't install DE when Jessie, then upgrade to strecth and then install DE?
10:58<retrospectacus>(not doing it at all would be about 40x faster depending on your internet speed)
10:58<scootergrisen>Yeah i remember the Debian install as being quite long
10:58<retrospectacus>correct
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11:00<retrospectacus>lair82: what you described is not normal behaviour - editing a file does not change its permissions. What program is that?
11:00<scootergrisen>!dpkg jessie->stretch
11:00<dpkg>First, understand that testing is a pre-release distribution without timely security support and that you will have a bumpy ride; ask me about <moving target> <testing> <testing security>. From /etc/apt/sources.list, remove stable-specific lines like jessie-updates and backports, and change jessie to stretch. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. If you feel you need more instructions, perhaps you should wait a while.
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11:01<scootergrisen>Can't i just download strectch?
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11:02<retrospectacus>the stretch installer is not likely to work
11:02<scootergrisen>Is strectch the newest there is?
11:02<scootergrisen>like master?
11:02<retrospectacus>but yes, you could try it. It is still under heavy development, like the rest of stretch
11:02<retrospectacus>no
11:02<retrospectacus>but it has the newest filezilla
11:02<retrospectacus>,v filezilla
11:03<judd>Package: filezilla on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.3.3-1; wheezy: 3.5.3-2; wheezy-backports: 3.9.0.5-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.9.0.5-1; stretch: 3.15.0.2-1; sid: 3.15.0.2-1
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11:04<lair82>I have tried mousepad, kate, and gedit
11:04<scootergrisen>Hmmm i have 3.16.1
11:05<retrospectacus>,v libpugixml-dev
11:05<judd>Package: libpugixml-dev on amd64 -- jessie: 1.4-1; sid: 1.7-2; stretch: 1.7-2
11:05<retrospectacus>it has the newer version of that build library you need
11:05<scootergrisen>yeah
11:05<scootergrisen>I will try VM later see how it goes
11:06<scootergrisen>But how long does it need internet connection to install?
11:07<scootergrisen>Lets say i dont have internet connection
11:08<scootergrisen>And i want stretch
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11:08<transhuman>hi I am trying to setup libvirt on debian jessie, its giving me a dependency error its looking for libnl-dev which only libnl3-dev is available
11:08<scootergrisen>Could i burn 2 disc with iso's. jessie and strech? then install jessie first and the upgrade from the other iso on another disc
11:09<retrospectacus>scootergrisen: you could try. I think it would take longer to get the 2 isos than to do basic install, upgrade and install a small DE
11:09<retrospectacus>scootergrisen: and you definitely don't need to actually burn the ISOs.
11:10<scootergrisen>ok
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11:10<transhuman>issue has something to do with netcf is linked against libnl1-1 any simple fix ?
11:10<transhuman>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=731450
11:10<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/731450 in src:libvirt (closed): «should have versioned build-dependency on libnl-dev (>= 1.1)»; severity: minor; opened: 2013-12-05; last modified: 2014-01-03.
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11:11<retrospectacus>the Stretch iso probably wouldn't have libpugixml-dev
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11:12<scootergrisen>In virtualbox i can select Debian 32-bit, there are no 64-bit
11:12<scootergrisen>Maybe old version of virtualbox?
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11:13<scootergrisen>i have 4.3.32-dfsg-1+deb8u2
11:13<scootergrisen>Great
11:14<retrospectacus>lots of google results about that
11:14<retrospectacus>something to do with your CPU or something
11:15<lair82>retrospectacus, I have tried mousepad, kate, and gedit
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11:16<scootergrisen>Oh no not the hardware-virtualization
11:17<scootergrisen>Why my CPU dont support so the VM will properly be slow
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11:22<scootergrisen>Hmm guess i need the i386 image. Virtualbox dont want to use the amd64 image because my CPU dont support the virtulatiztion i think
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11:23<retrospectacus>lair82: I don't have any of those, I used Vim. But like I said that is not usual behaviour. If you edit an existing file, its permissions don't change. Look into why your system is doing that.
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11:25<lair82>Thats my problem, I'm not real sure where to look to figure out what is going on, I know enough to be dangerous, thats about it. Shouldn't modifying the the umask setting fix this though?
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11:27<Matt```>I'm trying to give a user permissions to restart php, but this happens
11:27<Matt```>$ /usr/sbin/service php7.0-fpm reload
11:27<Matt```>Failed to get D-Bus connection: No such file or directory
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11:31<retrospectacus>Matt```: how are you doing that? sudo?
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11:31<Matt```>yeah
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11:32<Matt```>it's a fresh install of 8.3
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11:41<grove>lair82: Unlikely. An umask setting doesn't stop programs from changing permissions, and in your case something is changing permissions
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11:49<Matt```>retrospectacus: dbus wasn't installed
11:49<Matt```>:|
11:51<retrospectacus>hm
11:51<retrospectacus>lair82: verified that gedit does not do that on my system
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11:57<lair82>Any thoughts as to what may be doing this?
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12:11<deavid>hi, just noticed on upgrade to Debian 8 that my apache2 worker has been converted to prefork
12:12<deavid>and i can't find the worker (threading) again
12:12<deavid>how i'm supossed to run apache2 worker on Debian Jessie?
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12:14<deavid>i just found it is a module now inside apache
12:14<deavid>i have to try it myself.
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12:14<musca>!apache config jessie
12:14<dpkg>Debian's apache2 web server uses /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, /etc/apache2/envvars. To ease maintenance, avoid modifying files installed from the packages and use /etc/apache2/{sites,mods,conf}-available}/*.conf instead (.conf suffix required for Apache 2.4); use a2en{mod,conf,site} to activate. See /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.Debian or http://deb.li/3jUSV for more info. Also ask me about <apache config wheezy>.
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12:34<transhuman>anyone at all have any input on the issue I am having ? I am really stuck, or wouldn't ask
12:35<sney>transhuman: you could use equivs if the only problem is with apt.
12:36<sney>otherwise, provide more problem details and less speculation for a better answer
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12:41<narcan>transhuman: hi, is it an original debian package?
12:41<narcan>...from debian archive
12:42<narcan>humm, I didn't see the bug number... I'm reading it
12:43<scootergrisen>So i installed Debian in virtual box, without desktop enviroment... now i just see a cursor
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12:45<scootergrisen>Maybe i did not select correct boot device at the end.
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12:48<retrospectacus>scootergrisen: which desktop env
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12:48<scootergrisen>none
12:48<retrospectacus>oops I misread
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12:49<transhuman>no its not pastebining now
12:50<scootergrisen>I can't mess with my real Debian when i install debian in virtual box right?
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12:51<transhuman>http://paste.debian.net/422521 for compiling libvirt-1.3.2
12:51<transhuman>need it to fix some serious libvirt crash bugs
12:51<sney>scootergrisen: correct, the virtual one is separate
12:52<scootergrisen>not i managed to install the grub
12:52<scootergrisen>now i managed to install the grub
12:52<scootergrisen>I had to write /dev/sda manually
12:52<narcan>thx
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12:53<narcan>transhuman: this is not the complete build log, juste the configure part
12:53<scootergrisen>yah :) virtual linux in debian on my computer, its like matrix
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12:53<sney>transhuman: looks like there are some patches for libvirt in debian, maybe one or several of them should be applied to your newer build. https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-libvirt/libvirt.git/tree/debian/patches
12:53<sney>(there are also debian tools to automate this for newer versions from upstream)
12:53<scootergrisen>so now i want to try to upgrade to stretch
12:54<transhuman>what tools would those be, if i can ask?
12:54<sney>!uupdate
12:54<dpkg>uupdate (in the <devscripts> package) upgrades a source code package from an upstream revision, or e.g. if the newest foo in debian is 1.2, and upstream is at 1.4: apt-get source foo; wget -nd http://foo.org/foo-1.4.tar.gz; cd foo-1.2; uupdate ../foo-1.4.tar.gz Ask me about <package recompile>.
12:55<transhuman>so your saying get sources from debian? instead of from libvirt
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12:56<sney>you get the current libvirt source from debian AND the relevant one from upstream, and you use uupdate to debianize the new upstream version to match what the debian maintainer(s) did with the current debian one.
12:56<transhuman>ah thought uuupdate was a typo
12:57<transhuman>honestly never done that before..worth a try for sure
12:57<transhuman>thanks
12:57<sney>np
12:57<transhuman>excellent for sure .. looks like it opens a whole new world...
12:58<scootergrisen>So after i upgrade to strecth how do i install the desktop enviroment?
12:58<sney>scootergrisen: tasksel
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12:59<scootergrisen>How do i know what do write?
13:00<scootergrisen>taskdel install X?
13:00<scootergrisen>If i run the iso image again and select the desktop enviroment will that install jessie packages??
13:00<sney>scootergrisen: just run 'tasksel' and it will give you a menu
13:01<scootergrisen>ah ok
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13:11<selami>hey
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13:11<selami>türk var mı
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13:34<transhuman>hi one final question I would think on this issue...getting uudate error that the source exists fixed in debian already....how do i get this version rather than the normal source version?
13:37<scootergrisen>What happens is i install Debian desktopenviroment without GNOME and the other options?
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13:38<scootergrisen>damn it, i hit OK when i diffent mean to :(
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13:39<scootergrisen>How can i abort the tasksel installation?
13:39<Jack19>Hello, i'm running debian stretch and i'm having a issue installing a flashplayer plugins i don't currently know where the plugin folder is, i tried in /usr/lib/firerox-esr but there isn't a plugin fodler. Thanks in advance
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13:39<transhuman>never mind figured it out...simple as source from unstable
13:40<scootergrisen>Jack do you hace flashplugin-nonfree package?
13:40<scootergrisen>Thats the one i have for Iceweasel
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13:41<Jack19>no what is
13:41<scootergrisen>to show flash in browser
13:41<scootergrisen>Also visit about:support in iceweasel
13:41<Jack19>i will try :) thanks
13:41<scootergrisen>On my system it says Sti: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so,/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
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13:42<scootergrisen>You can install it with apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
13:42<Jack19>yeah i found it :), Thanks :D
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13:51<dodo>Hello... anybody using redmine and lighttpd here?
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13:52<sney>!anyone
13:52<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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13:54<dodo>ok... I have installed redmine, redmine-mysql and lighttpd. There is an example script to config lighttpd to use redmine in /usr/share/doc/redmine/examples/lighttpd-host.conf. I have copied that file content in /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf, but it doesn't work.
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13:58<scootergrisen>Can i suspend the tasksel installation?
13:58<dodo>I see this error in /var/log/lighttpd/error.log http://paste.debian.net/422559/ when i try to access http://localhost from my browser
13:58<scootergrisen>I would like to shutdown computer and resume later
13:59<dodo>scootergrisen: are doing a fresh install?
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13:59<dodo>you may not have grub (or another boot loader) installed
14:00<dodo>that's done after tasksel
14:00<scootergrisen>I'm installing in vertial box
14:01<scootergrisen>Are there not a pause function?
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14:01<scootergrisen>My connection will properly close now so i dont think i can chat anyone
14:02<scootergrisen>so yes fresh install in virtual box
14:03<dodo>scootergrisen: you may want to take a snapshot in virtualbox. once you resume the snapshot i think that you will loose connectivity. the installer will know, and i think that it will try to reconnect, and from there you may start tasksel again
14:03<dodo>I'm not sure about this, as I haven't done this.
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14:04<dodo>But I would try that in your case.
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14:07<jmcnaught>dodo: i have not tried lighttpd but the apache-passenger confs from the redmine package worked for me
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14:07<retrospectacus>scootergrisen: you can hit Ctrl-c to (fairly safely) kill any installation process
14:08<scootergrisen>ctrl+c dont do anything
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14:09<retrospectacus>then I don't know what you are doing / trying to do
14:10<scootergrisen>I will try the snapshot
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14:24<scootergrisen>the terminal is flickering like crashy
14:25<scootergrisen>Can a missing display driver make the terminal flicker like every second?
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14:27<scootergrisen>This is crazy i cant type anything in the screen normally. Each second the screen flashes so i cant type sometimes
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14:49<genix>Hello world!
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14:52<genix>well... to quiet here.
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15:00<R4F_Debian>Hi chris_se !
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18:09<transhuman> hi --nasty bug in xen--trying to find out if there is any patched version with this patch already out there. Not sure how to look....http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-11/msg00113.html ...thanks in advance for the help
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18:10<transhuman>tried backports, testing, and unstable (running on jessie)
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18:49<Guest9668>Mist :D
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19:33<Riverside>OS: Wheezy Problem: "One or more specified logical volume(s) not found. Unable to find LVM volume ctp-0/swap_1
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19:33<Riverside>It's not in /etc/fstab can't figure out where the old reference to that LVM is hiding.
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19:48<missingfiles>I was trying to install R, but after typing in sudo apt-get install r-base-dev, I somehow ended up almost removing my current kernel. After aborting the removal, I can no longer browse through my files. My files are still there, but I can no longer access the directory. I believe I'm using jessie, and the kernel is linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64.
19:48<missingfiles>Any help would be appreciated!
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19:51<jmcnaught>missingfiles: can no longer browse which directory? did you add a new repo to sources.list to install r-base?
19:51<missingfiles>I don't think I did.
19:52<missingfiles>I can't browse any directory.
19:52<missingfiles>Everything else appears to be working, but I can't access any of my folders except through terminal.
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19:52<jmcnaught>Riverside: did you look in /etc/lvm ?
19:53<missingfiles>Hold on, I'll do so right now.
19:53<jmcnaught>missingfiles: do what?
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19:53<missingfiles>Look in /etc/lvm. There doesn't appear to be anything in it.
19:53<jmcnaught>missingfiles: are you also Riverside?
19:53<missingfiles>No.
19:54<missingfiles>Oh, nvm. Just figured out how this chatroom works.
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19:55<sney>missingfiles: so you're only having trouble browsing files from the gui? is that correct?
19:55<jmcnaught>missingfiles: no worries. as a regular (not root) user you can access your files, like the stuff in /home/username? But in some unnamed file-manager you cannot browse these files? are you sure you're looking at the right place?
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19:56<jmcnaught>missingfiles: also please don't reboot until you've made sure you still have a kernel :)
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19:56<missingfiles>Yes, I can access my files, but not through the GUI.
19:56<missingfiles>I haven't rebooted yet - I'm too busy uploading all my important files to email!
19:56<missingfiles>I think I accidentally uninstalled my file manager.
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19:57<sney>I was going to suggest restarting the X session in case something got wonky with the session itself. a log out/in should suffice
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19:58<missingfiles>sney: Do you mean logging out and re-logging in to my account?
19:58<sney>yes
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19:59<malachi>happens to me with X / SSH forwarding alot, have to relog
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19:59<missingfiles>I'm scared that if I log out, I may not be able to log back in. I think the error message said something about fixing the kernel, so I'm not totally sure if the kernel is still 100% intact.
20:00<sney>on a still-running system that won't affect it
20:01<missingfiles>Okay, I'll give that a try.
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20:01<sney>if you had a list of the stuff apt removed then it would be easier to be more certain
20:02<missingfiles>I accidentally closed that window.
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20:02<missingfiles>Is there a way to find out?
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20:09<fernando>Hi !
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21:14<mais>hello, quick question. I copied one partition over another of the same disk using gparted live usb. After that I booted on the copied partition and changed the UUID of the partition and also update it in /etc/fstab file, but it persists to load the original partition rather than the copied. How can I fix this?
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21:16<teatime>it's a little vague/ambiguous/unclear exactly what you did, what you want, and what actually happened.
21:17<teatime>/etc/fstab doesn't control which partition is booted from, if that's what you meant?
21:17<mais>teatime: no I didnt mean that. I made a copy of a partition to another partition using gparted live usb.
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21:18<mais>then I booted to that partition using grub
21:18<teatime>and want to change it so that is used as / instead of the current / ?
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21:19<mais>because the two partitions are identical, changes have to happen, like changing the UUID of one of the partitions
21:19<teatime>when you say it "loads the original partition" what do you mean
21:20<mais>I mean the original not the copied one
21:20<teatime>but loads how
21:20<teatime>uses as / when you boot?
21:20<mais>hmm its the original and the copy of the original
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21:21<mais>there are two partitions, sda1 -> original and sda3 -> copy
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21:21<mais>when I boot from the copy it loads sda1 filesystem
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21:21<mais>I want to force it to load sda3 filesystem instead
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21:22<teatime>so yes, you mean it uses sda1 as / instead of sda3
21:22<mais>exactly
21:22<mais>I thought that the cure would be to change /etc/fstab file of the copy but it didnt work
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21:23<teatime>if you boot from rescue or whatever and chroot to the sda3 fs, I think update-grub might be enough (after editing fstab), but you might also need to change the grub config (I am not sure if it has the UUID in it, or if update-grub will pull it from fstab).
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21:24<mais>I did updated grub on both the original and the copy, but not from rescue
21:25<teatime>you'll notice when you boot if you hit 'e' to edit the grub entry there's a root= option to the kernel
21:25<teatime>I think that being set to your sda1 is why sda1 ends up mounted as /
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21:26<teatime>make sure when you chroot to bind-mount root, proc, dev, etc. if you do it that way.
21:26<teatime>s/root/boot/
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21:27<mais>it is "set root = 'hd0,msdos3'"
21:27<teatime>no, that's different
21:27<teatime>that's grub's root
21:28<teatime>it confusingly uses the same term for something different.
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21:28<mais>I found it. root=UUID='sda-UUID'
21:29<R4F_Debian>Hi all, hope it's gonna everything ok to Debian Warriors. Best People all over this World use and dedicate to Debian !
21:29<mais>so if I edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg on the original grub of sda1, it has to work...
21:30<R4F_Debian>I would like to know if there is any issue that uses to happen frequently to Debian users who install Debian Jessie with btrfs file system
21:30<teatime>mais: you can change that to root=sda3 right there in the grub command line editor, and then boot
21:30<teatime>mais: once that boots, assuming you have the correct / mounted, update-grub should fix it to be permenant
21:30<R4F_Debian>This is my first Debian Jessie installation using btrfs, still don't have any idea about what shall happen to my system using btrfs (desktop)
21:31<mais>sda3 or /dev/sda3?
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21:33<mais>teatime: you are the man! thank you very much for your time and effort. IT WORKED
21:33<teatime>sorry /dev/sda3
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21:34<sney>!tell R4F_Debian about btrfs gotchas
21:34<R4F_Debian>Hi sney, Glad to see you again !
21:34<mais>and yes, updating grub on the copy now showed the sda1 OS
21:35<R4F_Debian>Thanks for Great Support, as always, sney !
21:35<sney>np
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21:35<mais>but it didint make it permanent :/
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21:36<R4F_Debian>reading gotchas here
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21:37<teatime>mais: if it won't mess up unrelated grub config for you, you can manually change root=/dev/sda3 again and do grub-install. I'm fairly sure that will fix it.
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21:37<teatime>mais: double check /etc/fstab also after booting. make sure you didn't accidentally edit the one on sda1 instead of sda3.
21:38<Fenhl>hello, I need help with a broken uWSGI setup. Can anyone help me fix uWSGI or reinstall it from scratch? I've asked in #uwsgi on freenode but didn't get a response
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21:40<mais>teatime: wow fstab is really changed back to indicating sda1..
21:41<teatime>mais: you probably never edited this /etc/fstab, you edited the one on sda1 :)
21:43<Fenhl>the problem is that when I reload the uwsgi service using systemctl with any app enabled, it fails. When no apps are enabled, it works
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21:52<mais>teatime: thank you once more!
21:53<mais>I now have two separate OSes
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21:55<teatime>can you boot either easily? you can have both available in the grub menu, but the above doesn't cover that I don't think. or did it?
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21:55<R4F_Debian>mais, you are having the same thoughts and feelings I have whenever I'm helped by Debian Power Users, teatime and others here are Great UNIX-like Sysadm and Developers. And Really Nice Guys, who always support you. As I alwasy say: Debian Warriors are the Best !
21:56<R4F_Debian>Hope see you soon !
21:56<R4F_Debian>Bye all !
21:56<teatime>lol.
21:56<teatime>but I r n00b
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21:56<R4F_Debian>Glad to see you again, teatime !
21:56<R4F_Debian>Bye !!
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21:58<mais>teatime: I have both OSes listed in my grub menu (of sda1) and I can pick whichever I want
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22:01<mais>I also agree with R4F_Debian
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