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00:00<R4F_Debian>the name of it is "browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash" ?
00:00-!-lex is now known as Guest10489
00:01<jmcnaught>R4F_Debian: say that ten times fast!
00:01<R4F_Debian>ok, let me do this exercise here, jmcnaught, lol !
00:02<jmcnaught>R4F_Debian: https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer has some more info, and there's a link at the bottom of this page on how to install for iceweasel/firefox (looks like you just need to install the package, not compile anything)
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00:03<R4F_Debian>Thanks, jmcnaught, for Great Support and Help ! After your explanations, things became more clear here. Thanks a lot !
00:04<R4F_Debian>But couldn't say that ten times (not fast)
00:04<jmcnaught>R4F_Debian: you're welcome
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00:04<R4F_Debian>Bye jmcnaught, glad to see you again !
00:04<R4F_Debian>Bye all !
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02:24<sleser>hi guys
02:24<sleser>i wana say like . who ever makes iceweasel for debian os . when i watch a movie on website with flash sometimes iceweasel will freez co mpletely
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02:25<sleser>i dont even know why or how to chek whats causing this
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02:25<sleser>can the profetional iceweasel for debian chek in to it thank you
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02:25<sleser>i basical have to turn the power off the buton on the box because t he intire system will freez
02:25<jm_>iceweasel/firefox have a check for non-responding plugins and will kill it when it happens
02:26<sleser>what pluging name ?
02:26<jm_>try to ping the system when this happens
02:26<sleser>now ?
02:26<jm_>ehh? it's flash plugin in your case
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02:26<sleser>when it freezes i cant do nothing i cant even close iceweasel . i have to turn it off of the power switch
02:27<sleser>this lately hapens more then before
02:27<sleser>the intire computer would freez
02:27<jm_>that's why I said to try and ping it when it happens
02:28<sleser>i cant
02:28<jm_>have you tried it?
02:28<sleser>when it freezes all i can do is turn the computer off from power switch on the box
02:28<sleser>yeh i did
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02:28<sleser>esc+ ctl wont work
02:28<sleser>to kill proses
02:28<jm_>that is not ping
02:29<sleser>can you please show me a direction maby some help on web
02:29<sleser>so i dont buger
02:29<sleser>on the ping topic
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02:29<ach>127.0.0.1 ping <->
02:29<ach>easiest
02:29<ach>but i don't know what menat with ping
02:29<jm_>from a different system ping the computer on which the iceweasel is running
02:29<sleser>yeh but when the flash video is maximized on the screen i cant do nothing cause already the picture and everything froze
02:29<sleser>oh
02:30<sleser>how about if i dont have another computer
02:30<jm_>then you obviously can't do that
02:30<sleser>wow
02:30<sleser>alrite
02:30<ach>seem?
02:30<sleser>can who ever is in charge pute this one minus on th iceweasel team ? to look at it ?
02:31<ach>was bad for me if not got some public.
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02:32<jm_>it's not an iceweasel issue if system stops responding, most likely some kernel/graphic driver issue then
02:32<danielsh>Maybe it's just X11 that freezes?
02:33<danielsh>sleser, are you aware of the Ctrl-Alt-F6 key combination?
02:33<sleser>nope
02:33<jm_>that's what I was trying to check with the ping but ...
02:33<sleser>ill keep in mi nd
02:33<danielsh>jm_, I missed that in backscroll
02:33<sleser>i gona try next time the f6 to it
02:33<sleser>ill come and ask again
02:33<sleser>thanks
02:33<danielsh>sleser, Hit Ctrl+Alt+F6 when it freezes, and wait a few seconds,
02:33<danielsh>sleser, If you get a black screen with a login prompt, or not, is the question
02:34<danielsh>(you can type Alt+RightArrow to get back to the desktop then)
02:34<sleser>ok ok i gona keep this in mind
02:34<sleser>thanks folks
02:34<sleser>ill have to wait now for it to come again
02:34<sleser>ill keep in tuch thanks
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02:38<Juest>What a retarded person....
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02:48<lordarkmemo>i need to know the IPs asocciated to a network interface. Sometimes, a network interfaces can have (2) ips, one for connectivity and other for manteance. What command can detect all the IPs asocciated ?
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02:51<jm_>ip addr
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04:39<xubuntu>mea gustan las mamamdas
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04:58<yuhlw>hi, I've created the file /usr/share/applications/tsm-configure.desktop and I don't see it appearing on my gnome shell. Any idea
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04:59<yuhlw>https://paste.gnome.org/pyvkwg6x7
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05:22<zied>Hi, Someone know how can I find package's debconf questions list ? I find questions on 'config' file from package's archive but I'm looking on a simpler/quicker way. thanks !
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05:35<jm_>you could check in package's VCS repository
05:35<jm_>(not all packages have it AFAIK)
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05:38<zied>jm_: thanks for the advice, I'm wondring if there is a wrapper as debconf-get-selections to get directly the questions list
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05:39<zied>unfortunatlly, debconf-get-selections can give list for answred package questions
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05:43<stripe>hi all, just cloned my debian install to a new ssd, problem is I now have two identical installs on two partitions with the same uuid, how would I check the clone is working before I wipe the original drive? (without having to enter the machine and disconnect one of the drives) cheers.
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05:46<jm_>when I copy my debian installation to a new drive I generate md5sum-s on the old drive and verify them on the new drive
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06:16<paranoiko_koalaki>greetings
06:17<musca>hello paranoiko_koalaki
06:18<paranoiko_koalaki>I heard that's it possible to install debian without connecting to the internet using a blu-ray disk installer. is there any torrent o ftp server in which I can find the image?
06:18<paranoiko_koalaki>*or
06:19<teatime>you don't need a bluray
06:19<teatime>you can do it with a CD
06:20<teatime>(or DVD)
06:21<teatime>https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/installmanual https://www.debian.org/CD/
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06:21<paranoiko_koalaki>live or non live image?
06:22<teatime>either, but if you primarily want to install, people usually use just the installer discs for that.
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06:24<paranoiko_koalaki>that means that I don't need to use live images only simple installation disk ?
06:24<asel>djfnkjdk
06:24<asel>gjgjfdjd
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06:25<teatime>correct
06:25<teatime>just not the netinstall one, obviously
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06:56<tobi468>Hi, ich habe gerade zwei sernet-samba Pakete in der Version 4.2.9 installiert (zwecks gleichen UIDs auf unterschiedlichen Systemen, mehrere Niederlassungen). Imho hätte das laut patchnotes jetzt funktionieren müssen. Leider habe ich weiterhin unterschiedliche IDs auf dem Primären und sekundären DC. Ich hab gerade versucht den sekundären Server nicht als zweiten AD sondern Member Server joinen zu lassen. Leider das selbe Ergebnis. Hat
06:56<tobi468> jemand eine Idee / ähnliches Setup?
06:58<jm_>!de
06:58<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
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07:24<paranoiko_koalaki>one last question Iam in the https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ I download the full cds o full dvd (non net installers) correct?
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07:27<herpy>either will work
07:27<paranoiko_koalaki>ok
07:27<paranoiko_koalaki>thanks :)
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08:08<walid>el salam alkom . hello
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08:09<walid>i new user linux
08:09<walid>i have probleme
08:10<olinuxx>we guess so
08:10<olinuxx>walid, on IRC : say hello, ask your question straight away, wait patiently for an answer
08:11<walid>i install midori browser in debien
08:11<walid>i press sudo apt-get install midori
08:11<walid>not work
08:12<olinuxx>debian doesn't use sudo
08:12<walid>aha
08:12<olinuxx>use "su -c apt-get install midori"
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08:13<walid>thanks
08:13<jm_>note that midori is only available in backports for jessie
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08:13<jm_>that's probably the reason for "doesn't work"
08:14<olinuxx>walid, mmm well, the proper command is :
08:14<olinuxx>su -c "apt-get install midori"
08:14<rain1>debian doesn't use sudo?
08:14<rain1>I use sudo fine
08:14<walid>thx
08:14<walid>now wroking
08:14<olinuxx>rain1, yes you can use it but it's not there in a basic install
08:14<olinuxx>Walex, you're welcome
08:15<olinuxx>rain1, don't forget that walid started with "I new user linux" ;)
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08:17<blast007>olinuxx: it is part of the "basic install" if you don't provide a root password
08:17<olinuxx>hey guys, are you really trying to find the little unprecisness here ?
08:17<olinuxx>:)
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08:18<blast007>would you rather spread correct information or not?
08:18<olinuxx>blast007, blablabla
08:19<olinuxx>he came with a question, I answer, it worked
08:19<olinuxx>anything wrong in that ?
08:19<olinuxx>and please : "would you rather spread information without being arrogant or not?"
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08:23<blast007>"debian doesn't use sudo" is like saying "debian doesn't use Xorg". Just because you chose to install it without sudo/Xorg doesn't mean it doesn't have it at all. :)
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08:25<olinuxx>blast007, living you with your concern
08:25<olinuxx>you're certainly more clever than anyone here
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08:25<olinuxx>have a good day mate, and take it easy
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08:55<anonymous>hello
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08:56<anonymous>t
08:56<anonymous>hello
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09:41<rafalcpp>ring ring
09:41<ring>who's there?
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09:41<rafalcpp>*ring* *ring*
09:41<rafalcpp>ring: hi, it's year 1990
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09:42<ring>hello
09:42<rafalcpp>I wanted to say, people now have more then 64 KB memory in theirc PCs
09:42<rafalcpp>can we default vim to have more then 150 lines of defult paste bufer limit?
09:42<rafalcpp>by default in debian
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09:43<rafalcpp>that would be just super, if people would not lose their text in case of vim yy, :wq, vim again
09:43<rafalcpp>I hope any Debian-Commodore64 users can edit it back
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09:44<themill>dpkg: tell rafalcpp about reportbug
09:45<rafalcpp>themill: ok though the first email with "ring ring" might not work out as well as here
09:45<themill>there's noone here who is going to change anything for you
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09:46<themill>(and even if there were, they'd still want a bug report to be filed)
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09:46<rafalcpp>I can obviously change it for myself, but I think many users would benefit from such default behavriour that does not lose their text in order to save e.g. 100 KB of ram (or actually of disk space for the paste buf file)
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09:47<themill>hence filing a bug report...
09:47<rafalcpp>k
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09:56<scootergrisen>Where can i read how to make a sh file that i can run?
09:57<scootergrisen>It seems when i try to make a sh file and make it executeable i am not able to run it
09:57<duclicsic>scootergrisen: they're just plain text files
09:57<scootergrisen>Maybe because i use \r\n as newline?
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09:58<duclicsic>scootergrisen: not sure, could be
09:58<duclicsic>what error do you get?
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10:04<scootergrisen>For some reason i seem to get this output at the start when i run the file "[3;J"
10:04<scootergrisen>Maybe its BOM?
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10:06<scootergrisen>Hmm when i run clear in the sh file i get that: [3;J
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10:07<scootergrisen>Why does i get [3;J when i run clear command? Also happens when i type it in the terminal
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10:13<mauro25987>hi
10:13<mauro25987>speak spanish? someone?
10:13<jrtc27>!es
10:13<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
10:13<Miro>mauro25987 lol
10:13<mauro25987>haha
10:14<Miro>itelsis?
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10:19<Miro>playtech ?
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10:19<ring>scootergrisen: can you upload the file to https://mixtape.moe/ so we can look at it?
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10:19<ring>(a pastebin-like site would probably do something to line endings)
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10:29<scootergrisen>Just want to know how to make a sh file correctly
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10:30<scootergrisen>Are there a guide somewhere?
10:30<sney>scootergrisen: there's nothing special about it.
10:31<sney>http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/Bash-Beginners-Guide.html I guess there's this thing
10:31<sney>but most shell scripts are just a list of commands in a text file
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10:32<blast007>scootergrisen: you're saying that running 'clear' from the terminal spits out a "[3;J" ? have you tried from a fresh terminal (or after typing 'reset' in the broken terminal)?
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10:47<Siecje>I'm getting a lot of entries in syslog from dhclient https://dpaste.de/YvbG How can I silence them?
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10:50<blast007>Siecje: your DHCP server may be set to a very short lease duration (perhaps 30 minutes or an hour)
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10:57<scootergrisen>If i open new terminal and type "clear" and scroll up it says [3;J
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10:59<scootergrisen>Does this happen to you people when you type clear also
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11:00<jrtc27>scootergrisen what terminal emulator? have you tried reset first?
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11:01<scootergrisen>yeah its the same and i have tried multiple terminals
11:01<jrtc27>what program are you using?
11:01<scootergrisen>Like gnome-terminal
11:01<jrtc27>ah
11:01<jrtc27>version?
11:02<scootergrisen>3.14.1
11:02<scootergrisen>Debian Jessie
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11:02<scootergrisen>I'm not says it should not say [3;J it just seem strange to me
11:02<scootergrisen>But when do i know. Maybe its normale
11:02<jrtc27>it's not meant to
11:03<jrtc27>it's because clear outputs <ESC>[3;J as one of the control sequences
11:03<jrtc27>and for some reason it's not being filtered
11:04<scootergrisen>ok
11:05<jrtc27>can you run "clear | hexdump" and paste the first line (starts 0000000)
11:06<scootergrisen>0000000 5b1b 3b33 1b4a 485b 5b1b 4a32
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11:06<jrtc27>ok that's correct
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11:07<scootergrisen>Are there anyway to boot the computer with Debian to a console and just have the window manager start?
11:07<duclicsic>does it happen in other terminal applications?
11:07<scootergrisen>Yeah
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11:07<scootergrisen>LXTerminal 0.2.0 says the same
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11:08<jrtc27>they both use libvte or whatever it's called?
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11:08<duclicsic>is that just a fork of gnome-terminal?
11:08<scootergrisen>And now i just tried in Debian in Virtual box and it also says it
11:08<duclicsic>try something different like xterm
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11:09<scootergrisen>How can i scroll up in xterm?
11:09<duclicsic>yes. i'm not asking you to try it as your terminal for normal use though, just to test this
11:09<jrtc27>mouse wheel or Shift+PgUp
11:09<scootergrisen>Seems xterm wont let me scroll up behind clear
11:10<jrtc27>oh you're right it doesn't
11:10<scootergrisen>Maybe its a error that the gnome-terminal lets be scroll up behind the clear command?
11:11<duclicsic>no
11:11<jrtc27>ok xterm resets scrollback on clear
11:11<duclicsic>in gnome terminal what output does this produce?: echo $TERM
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11:12<scootergrisen>If i run clear > x in xterm and open the file it says "[3;J[H[2J"
11:12<duclicsic>scootergrisen: these are just escape sequences, they give special instructions to the terminal
11:12<scootergrisen>echo $TERM says xterm... which i never use
11:13<duclicsic>ok that's expected
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11:13<mauro25987>hi
11:13<mauro25987>help me please
11:14<mauro25987>http://paste.debian.net/425064/
11:14<duclicsic>scootergrisen: open a fresh gnome-terminal, and try doing: TERM=gnome
11:14<duclicsic>then try again
11:14<mauro25987>hi
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11:15<jrtc27>mauro25987 what do you need help with?
11:16<scootergrisen>now it says nothing after clear
11:16<duclicsic>scootergrisen: as in you get a prompt but no odd escape sequences?
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11:16<mauro25987>I want to start with systemd utorrent
11:17<scootergrisen>No escape sequence
11:17<Siecje>blast007: What should it be set to?
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11:18<mauro25987>I want to start utorrent with systemd
11:18<duclicsic>scootergrisen: so open your gnome terminal settings, go to the "compatibility" tab, and change the emulation setting to "gnome"
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11:18<scootergrisen>I seem to get the number of newlines the the window i high
11:18<scootergrisen>I seem to get the number of newlines the the window is high
11:18<mauro25987>http://paste.debian.net/425064/
11:18<blast007>Siecje: a typical normal value is 7 to 14 days, though for networks with a lot of device turnover (like public wifi) a normal might be 12 hours or 1 day.
11:19<blast007>Siecje: I'm not sure if Linux is the same, but I believe Windows does a renew halfway through the actual lease duration to ensure it keeps the lease current
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11:20<duclicsic>i don't think the issue is really with the dhcp lease times, it's more the logging verbosity of the client. I don't know how to alter that, but it seems more like the better route to investigate.
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11:21<scootergrisen>I dont have emulator setting in version 3.14.1
11:22<blast007>duclicsic: well, it's renewing every ~27 minutes. I'd consider that a lease time issue :)
11:22<Urlo>Hi! I got problems after installing Vlc in my Debian Jessie. It work using my account User but fail to start using the account Root! Can i get some help here?
11:23<scootergrisen>How can i set a enviroment variable so i gets remembered when i reboot?
11:23<duclicsic>blast007: not an issue as such, it's more frequent that necessary for sure, but normal operation probably shouldn't be going into syslog
11:23<scootergrisen>Like TERM=gnome
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11:23<blast007>Urlo: why are you trying to run vlc as root?
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11:23<duclicsic>scootergrisen: it's set by the terminal application when it starts
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11:23<duclicsic>scootergrisen: you can change it in the settings
11:24<scootergrisen>Its not there in version 3.14.1 it seems
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11:24<duclicsic>oh I guess that's one of the many "improvements" that come with gnome3
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11:25<scootergrisen>he
11:25<Urlo>i often use root account to work faster ...but i can get what's thedifference between user and root for that application!
11:26<scootergrisen>How can i switch from Xfce to GNOME?
11:26<duclicsic>FROM xfce?
11:26<scootergrisen>Like logout of Xfce and log in to GNOME?
11:26<scootergrisen>yeah
11:26<duclicsic>depends on what display manager you're using I suspect
11:26<Autofire>Hi! I'm having a minor problem involving...booting. And mounting. And stuff. Basically my /usr/local and my /home partitions which have been formatted with reiserfs won't work anymore. I suspect it has to do with this: http://paste.debian.net/./425087/
11:26<blast007>Urlo: because you should only use root for things that absolutely need root, since it gives full access to the system
11:26<duclicsic>often they allow you to pick your session
11:27<duclicsic>not sure why you'd want to do that though :p
11:27<blast007>Urlo: you'd not want some exploit in VLC that is triggered by a malicious media file to have full control of your computer
11:27<duclicsic>scootergrisen: you can change the term variable in the xfce terminal
11:27<scootergrisen>I'm trying out different window managagers
11:28<Urlo>So i cannot get that application start under Root for security reasons?!
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11:28<blast007>I'm not saying you can't, just saying you shouldn't
11:28<duclicsic>there's no good reason to run vlc as root
11:28<Autofire>I've been getting this error message for a while now, and I have never been able to fix it. I even came around here and no one could fix it. But now it's basically keeping the anyone from accessing their files, so I *have* to fix it
11:28<scootergrisen>Says *** VTE ***: Failed to load terminal capabilities from '/etc/termcap'
11:29<scootergrisen>I have installed diffent window managers and stuff, maybe that it was i get the problems with "clear" command
11:30<Urlo>Well i now understand, but if i would like to run that app under Root what i have to fix?
11:30<sney>Urlo: sometimes you can get away with using root as a user account, but the fact is nothing is designed to work that way. some programs won't care, some will refuse to start, some will be buggy. and you won't get any help because this isn't supported. just use a normal user account and sudo/gksu/kdesu for stuff where you _need_ root access
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11:33<scootergrisen>What is the normal way to switch from using Xfce to GNOME?
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11:35<Urlo>I got it! Very helpful! But now another question..i newbie of Debian it's clear, but i'm loving it. Where i can find some info about the access to the file of my user account running root, to transfer it?
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11:36<sney>Urlo: ls -l and the 'chown' utility
11:37<foffa>how to run EXE on jessie? wine is full of errors.
11:37<sney>foffa: wine is the way, but some windows applications don't work with it. there's compatibility listings at winehq.org
11:39<foffa>sney, oh thanks i will check if my app listed up there
11:40<Urlo>For example i would like to transfer some doc from root to user. What's the way to do it?
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11:41<sney>read 'man chown' but the basic is chown username:groupname filename
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11:42<scr4p>Urlo: do you want move some file or do you want change per permission?
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11:42<foffa>how to upgrade gnome 3.14
11:42<Siecje>blast007: Is that something you can configure on the server? BTW this is a machine on a VPS
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11:43<Urlo>i can't see the files of my user account running root!! and there is something i would like to transfer from root to user
11:44<blast007>Urlo: you're logged in as root and can't see root's files?
11:44<scr4p>read this--> http://www.perlfect.com/articles/chmod.shtml
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11:44<Urlo>No! I can find user files running root! it's normal?
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11:45<blast007>Urlo: you're gonna need to provide more information.
11:45<scr4p>you can't find or you can't read?
11:45<scr4p>explain your problem
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11:46<blast007>Siecje: ah, so you don't have control of the DHCP server then? if that's the case, then you'd have to find a way to turn off that output like duclicsic mentioned. (Though the VPS's I've used have all had static IPs)
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11:47<Urlo>I got some Doc and Picture in my user account. But if i can see those using the user account i can't while i'm running root.
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11:48<Urlo>i can't find*
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11:48<blast007>well where are you looking? you'd have to look in the user's home directory
11:48<sney>root has a different home directory. so when you log in as root (or any other user) it has different "Documents" "Pictures" etc directories
11:48<scr4p>what's the path of this file?
11:48<blast007>root's home is /root/, while users default to /home/<username>/
11:49<scr4p>as root run: cd /path/to/your/file
11:49<scr4p>then ls -l
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11:49<scr4p>if you don't see the file or you are in a bad path or the file not exists
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11:51<Urlo>ooooops! ..said..i'm newbie! sorry for that stupid question! i got it. Thanks!
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11:57<retrospectacus>foffa: Jessie already has gnome 3.14. You can upgrade it (if possible) by "apt-get install gnome-core"
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12:14<Lemmata>Hi, I'm trying to connect to a VPN using Debian Stretch (KDE) and I get an error along the lines of: "is invalid or out of range for property 'gateway-ping-timeout' of type 'guint'". Any ideas?
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12:18<retrospectacus>Lemmata: go to #debian-next for stretch support
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12:44<steev>does anyone know when the chromium team commits things to pkg-chromium? a bug was marked closed, but i don't see any corresponding commits to the released version in there
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14:34<ransur0t>jmcnaught: I did 'dpkg -l | grep Brother' this morning and noticed the suggested driver was already installed, so I removed it thinking their may be a conflict...
14:35<ransur0t>I have experienced a few X freezes (or perhaps Cinnamon) as well. I can ssh into machine, shutdown/restart etc...
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14:46<ransur0t>jmcnaught: and I am considering removing the lpr driver as well .,. don't plan on doing much cli printing!
14:47<ransur0t>but not sure if the lpr driver is necessary for cups wrapper to function as well
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14:48<jmcnaught>ransur0t: you'd need to ask brother support about how their drivers work. as i told you last night, some people have had success with the printer-driver-brlaser package available in Jessie. It's also worth checking if your printer supports one of the "standard" languages like postscript or pdf
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14:49<ransur0t>jmccrohan: yes, I will pursue with brother support. thank you for your replies and advise, kindly. :)
14:49<ransur0t>jmcnaught: yes, I will pursue with brother support. thank you for your replies and advise, kindly. :)
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14:50<jmcnaught>ransur0t: no problem, good luck :)
14:50<ransur0t>thx!
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15:45<farhad>hi every body
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15:58<Liddybug>yo
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16:02<uso>when you have changed the setting which driver to include in the initramfs during installation and want to change that later, do you have to reconfigure some package or is it enough to delete the config file under /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d?
16:03<uso>(especially as the name of that config file seems to have changed, on some of my installations it's named "local", on others "driver-policy")
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16:23<luca95wmilan>Salve a tutti.. ho installati debian 8 in virtual box ma quando cerco di avviaro mi da l'errore piix4_smbus ecc..
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16:24<luca95wmilan>potrei ricevere aiuto
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16:24<jmcnaught>!it
16:24<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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16:25<_nils_>hi, can someone guide me to fixing the following problem: Very early on boot (more or less directly after the root file system check) there is a line "A Start Job is running for Creating Volatile Files and Directories" (or similar, i dont have bootlogd atm) This line lasts for 23sek... which is twice as long as the rest of my boot process... how can i search for problems regarding this?
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16:26<luca95wmilan>non riesco a trovare debian-iy
16:26<luca95wmilan>it
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16:32<jmcnaught>_nils_: "systemd-analyze blame" might give a clue about which service unit is doing this. have you checked the journal?
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16:33<_nils_>jmccrohan, i'll give it a try. I looked into dmesg, but there is just a 23sek gap after registering the framebuffer device.
16:35<jmcnaught>_nils_: that other person would probably appreciate not being hilighted instead of me :)
16:35<_nils_>whoopsi :) sorry
16:36<_nils_>jmcnaught, Apr 06 22:11:30 NilsSid systemd[1]: Started Create Volatile Files and Directories. thats da baddy... but i cannot find any reason why this runs for 23 sek
16:36<_nils_>and also blocks
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16:37<jmcnaught>_nils_: is that from journalctl? it might provide more details if you use -x
16:38<_nils_>jmcnaught, yes it is. i'll have a look
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16:39<jmcnaught>_nils_: is this unstable/sid?
16:39<_nils_>it is
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16:39<jmcnaught>_nils_: this is the stable channel, unstable support is in #debian-next
16:40<_nils_>ah thanks, i'll give it a try
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17:00<narcan>Hi, I have an issue with mutt when I try to send a gpg signed message
17:00<narcan>gpg: keyblock resource `/usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.pgp': file open error
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18:16<Sp0nken>carl.p.laver@gmail.comXNhedn2ZlcxtjApFqDcn
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18:33<jmcnaught>Sp0nken: you've probably already changed it, but incase you didn't notice that you pasted ^^ here you should go change your password
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18:34<Sp0nken>jmccrohan yes i saw that.. holy crap i get paniced there for a while
18:34<Sp0nken>thank you anyways :)
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18:36<kir4>#Debian
18:37<retrospectacus>kir4
18:37<kir4>oi
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19:24<themill>All I saw was *******.
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19:38<k-man>is it possible to set the permissions of a directory, such that if a user creates a file in the directory, the file will be owned by the user owning the directory, not the user creating the file?
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19:39<k-man>i see some reports on the internet saying setuid will do that, but it didn't work for me
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19:41<k-man>or is that just not the way, and you do file sharing using the group permissions
19:41<k-man>yeah maybe thats the way to do it
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19:54<hespe>has anyone tried running Tails OS on Debian Mate Desktop 8.3?
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19:55<retrospectacus>like, in a vm?
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19:55<hespe>no I am running it off a USB
19:55<sney>!tails
19:55<dpkg>Tails (The Amnesic Incognito Live System) is a live DVD/USB <based on Debian>, with the aim of preserving privacy and anonymity. It is not supported in #debian. https://tails.boum.org/ #tails on irc.oftc.net.
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19:57<retrospectacus>hespe: your question makes no sense then
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20:32<vortek>how do you reconfigure a package?
20:32<sney>dpkg-reconfigure
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20:34<vortek>thanxs
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20:36<anonymous>Ohh
20:36<anonymous>Hell
20:36<svetlana>ьь,
20:36<anonymous>Hello
20:36<svetlana>mm?
20:36<svetlana>hi
20:36<vortek>hi
20:36<anonymous>I`m a New in Linux
20:36<anonymous>I`m use Kali Linux
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20:36<vortek>hehe
20:37<sney>groan
20:39<vortek>freaking newbies installling a hacker distro like kali is lke giving nuclear arm to a 2 year old hehe
20:39<sney>actually it's not like that at all
20:39<rain1>its more like using a fridge as a bicycle
20:40<vortek>haha
20:40<rain1>:P
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20:40<sney>all of those tools are freely available anywhere. stuff like kali just prepackages it. they still don't know how to use any of it, so the end result is basically nothing
20:40<vortek>tue
20:40<vortek>true
20:41<vortek>script kiddies like it cuase they don't have to hunt the tools down individualy
20:42<Randy>Greetings. (I'm a little new at irc.) I am running Debian with the Xfce desktop. Yesterday, I updated Debian from 8.3 to 8.4. Since then, I've noticed that when opening a PDF file in Iceweasel, the desktop freezes.
20:42<vortek>but i know what ya mean
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20:43<sney>Randy: does it freeze permanently or does it eventually unfreeze, maybe after loading the pdf?
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20:45<Randy>sney: I let it sit once for a minute or so, and nothing. What happens is, I click the link to the PDF, and it starts to open. It seems like while it is in the process of loading, the screen freezes. It has not un-frozen on its own...at least not in the few minutes I've been willing to wait.
20:46<sney>ok. if you download the pdf and open it from the disk, is the behavior any different? (sometimes browsers are unhappy about streaming large(r) pdfs from the internet)
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20:47<Randy>Yes, downloading works. I downloaded the PDF (right-click; save as...) and it downloaded fine. It opened fine in the local native desktop program for viewing PDFs (I don't know the name of the program).
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20:48<awal>evince, probably
20:48<sney>that's evince. ok. but if you open it inside iceweasel, from the disk?
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20:49<Randy>I did not try that yet. I suspect trying might lock things up, so will take notes here and try after I sign off. Is there anything else I might want to try?
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20:51<sney>nah we're just collecting information here
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20:56<sleser>do i need sertein something instaled on my debian so i can transfer file from computer to my samsung phone
20:56<sleser>usb
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20:59<sney>no it should just work with mtp, but some phones are too new for libmtp to keep up
21:01<jmcnaught>sleser: on your phone you might also be able to set it to a "mass storage" mode (or something like that) in the settings
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21:04<sleser>thanks
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21:06<vortek>im having trouple using arno-iptables firewall , i tried removing it and reinstalling and i get this error message... http://pastebin.com/mipztSGi
21:06<Randy_>Opeing the PDF from the File menu in Iceweasel causes the lockup as well.
21:06<sney>neat. ok.
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21:08<Fox682-Pi>hmm, guess I'm back lol
21:08<sney>Randy_: can you follow the instructions here http://mozilla.debian.net/ to install firefox and see if it still happens?
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21:12<alumnocecy>uuno+
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21:14<k-man>how do i keep my php.ini standard in debian so updates don't give me the "do you want to over-write this file" dialogue? I need to change the memory_limit and upload_max_filesize settings in the php.ini
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21:17<Juest>k-man: try seeing the documentation included? i think you can always diff when it asks you to override
21:18<sney>k-man: https://wiki.debian.org/PHP/#Configuration_layout
21:18<k-man>it does diff, but I want a way that my changes are not part of the default, so debian can just update it
21:19<sney>tl;dr make a separate .ini file in /etc/php5/conf.d with your changes
21:19<k-man>i think this might be proposed: https://wiki.debian.org/PHP/#Proposed_changes
21:19<sney>no it's already done.
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21:19<k-man>oh
21:20<sney>see where it says "sarge and etch"? that's many debian releases ago
21:20<k-man>oh yes
21:20<k-man>i will see if I can use that mechanism
21:20<k-man>thanks sney
21:20<sney>np
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21:28<R4F_Debian>Hi all, I would like to know if there is any Debian Jessie user experienced in qemu virtual machine and which differences I could find between qemu and virtualbox, for qemu is found in the stable Debian repositories
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21:29<svetlana>have #qemu and #vbox at the freenode IRC network in case you are wondering
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21:30<R4F_Debian>HI svetlana, thanks for hint. I didn't know there was such a channel (#qemu).
21:30<R4F_Debian>Thank you very much, svetlana !
21:31<svetlana>you are welcome
21:31<R4F_Debian>Bye !
21:31<svetlana>laters, see you around
21:31<R4F_Debian>Glad to see you here svetlana ! See you soon !
21:31<jmcnaught>R4F_Debian: you're welcome to stick around you know :)
21:32<svetlana>that's what I mean. stay in here and also join these channels, if you like, I am in lots
21:32<R4F_Debian>Hi jmcnaught, Glad to see you again ! Great Debian Warrior !
21:32<R4F_Debian>lots, svetlana ?
21:32<R4F_Debian>oh, now I understood. Great !
21:33<svetlana>:-)
21:33<svetlana>many
21:33<R4F_Debian>I have to go now, svetlana, busy here in my work routine, but hope seeing you again as fast as possible, also jmcnaught !
21:33<R4F_Debian>God Bless you All !
21:33<svetlana>laters; enjoy your routine
21:34<R4F_Debian>Bye ! Other occasion with more spare time I hope talk to you again, svetlana and jmcnaught !
21:35<R4F_Debian>Bye !
21:35<svetlana>bye
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22:14<lordarkmemo>i need to know the IPs asocciated to a network interface. Sometimes, a network interfaces can have (2) ips, one for connectivity and other for manteance. What command can detect all the IPs asocciated ?
22:14<jmcnaught>lordarkmemo: ip addr
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22:16<Fox682-Pi>yay!
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22:17<lordarkmemo>jmcnaught: and a remote network interface?
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22:17<lordarkmemo>jmcnaught: for example, my Router have a dhcp IP server and a manteance IP.
22:20<jmcnaught>lordarkmemo: can you log into the router and use the "ip addr" command there?
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22:21<lordarkmemo>jmcnaught: No. it dont have a diagnostic tool
22:23<jmcnaught>lordarkmemo: there might be tools i'm not aware of to do this, but all i can think of to get IP addresses that exist on your network are tools like nmap
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22:24<lordarkmemo>jmcnaught: yes, i use it. But it dont show the "hidden" ip, or alternative IP of network interfaces
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22:25<Fox682>Testing
22:25<Fox682-Pi>Tested
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22:30<Fox682>testing
22:30<Fox682-Pi>tested
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22:37<jmcnaught>Fox682-Pi: Fox682: you could always make a new channel for testing your IRC clients in
22:38<Fox682>yeah probably, just needed a couple of lines though, I will keep that mind for future reference! Thank you!
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22:49<vortek>youtube.com video won't load, what can i do?
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22:52<jmcnaught>vortek: write your elected official! or provide some details like which browser, flash or no flash, what the error says etc
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22:53<vortek>oh i got it working now :)
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