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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-04-08

---Logopened Fri Apr 08 00:00:18 2016
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00:04<vortek>my system in running slow, how can i fix this??
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00:09<vortek>well i can start with top
00:09<jmcnaught>vortek: if you run "ps -ef --sort=time" what are the last couple of lines with the most time used?
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00:13<vortek>let me check
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00:17<vortek>jmcnaught http://pastebin.com/CpNj2T7v
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00:20<jmcnaught>vortek: the /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugin-container is what iceweasel uses to run adobe flash (and other plugins) in a separate process. it's probably flash. try closing tabs in iceweasel that use flash, or restart iceweasel
00:21<vortek>ok
00:21<mauro25987>thanks jmcnaught sney
00:21<mauro25987>check this http://paste.debian.net/426565/
00:22<mauro25987>the file utorrent.service right?
00:22<mauro25987>or could optimize more?
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00:22<jmcnaught>mauro25987: cool. if "systemctl stop utorrent" actually stops it you're probably good to enable the service. what do you mean by optimize?
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00:23<mauro25987>if the format is fine, precise set something else?
00:25<jmcnaught>mauro25987: you might decide to run utserver as a specific user using the User= and Group= directives described in "man systemd.exec"
00:25<mauro25987>ok
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00:47<vortek> man iceweasel sucks up memory and makes my sytem very slow when i run it, any ideas?
00:48<mauro25987>i have a problem with debian instalation
00:49<mauro25987>http://i.imgur.com/y3dF0d4.png
00:49<jm_>you'll want to present the error in english or try this channel:
00:49<jm_>!es
00:49<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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00:51<mauro25987>ok sorry
00:52<mauro25987>but here there are many more people
00:52<mauro25987>I know there are people who speak Spanish here, but who are not
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01:13<R4F_Debian>Hi all, I would like to know if there is any risk on using this command: ls -l /dev/sda, for I know this other one shall damage the Debian file system: ls > /dev/sda
01:15<ach>i tried the first but it seems it put up what it did
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01:16<jm_>ls -l /dev/sda is normally harmless
01:17<R4F_Debian>Hi jm_ I don't see you for a long time. Glad to see you here again ! your hints are quite precious and have helped me a lot ! Thanks !
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01:18<R4F_Debian>even using it with root user, jm_ ?
01:18<jm_>R4F_Debian: yes
01:18<R4F_Debian>Oh, so the real problem is the second command I've shown here: ls > /dev/sda. What exactly should it cause in the file system ?
01:19<jm_>yes, do you know what '>' does in shell?
01:20<R4F_Debian>I read a brief explanation about it, but it is not clear for me, jm_
01:21<R4F_Debian>through it you send a command output directly to device. in this case, a hard drive
01:21<jm_>R4F_Debian: http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/ch02sec15.html
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01:21<R4F_Debian>but without clear comprehension about it
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01:21<R4F_Debian>Oh, thanks, jm_ I will read it
01:21<jm_>yes it causes the output to be written to a file, in this case it would overwrite what's stored at the beginning of the disk drive where MBR and partition records are kept
01:23<R4F_Debian>oh, so you damage completely your file system through this action....
01:24<jm_>well it depends how big the output is
01:24<jm_>it can also do that if it's long yes
01:25<R4F_Debian>I see, more clear now. I will read this article you have passed me. Thanks again for Great and Complete Support, jm_ !
01:25<R4F_Debian>See you !
01:25<R4F_Debian>Bye !
01:25<jm_>no problem
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01:30<mauro25987>someone knows how to use samba, debian to windows?
01:30<mauro25987>configure windows to samba server debian could.
01:30<mauro25987>but not linux to windows
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01:33<thunderrd>mauro25987: try #samba on Freenode
01:33<jm_>you don't use samba to do that, you use smbclient or smbfs, or better yet, cifs
01:35<mauro25987>ok
01:35<mauro25987>thanks
01:36<jm_>you can obviously also use it via gvfs in DE-s etc.
01:44<mauro25987>irc client that you recommend?
01:44<mauro25987>https://wiki.debian.org/IrcClients
01:45<jm_>use whatever suits you
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01:58<vortek>how can i block those anoying full page adds that openup in a new browser window, in iceweasel>?
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02:08<jmcnaught>vortek: iceweasel has a "block popups" option in preferences > content. You could also use an adblock extention, there's a debian package xul-ext-adblock-plus. Also stop going to shady websites
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02:11<jm_>also extensions like noscript/request policy are very useful
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02:36<ransur0t>jmcnaught: re: brother printer/scanner issue, after getting nowhere with brother support "We endeavor to help as much as possible but there are many variations of Linux distributions and each is customizable to you unique environment. Unfortunately we cannot support each version independently. We provide a selection of available drivers on our support page that you can download and configure to meet your needs.", I
02:36<ransur0t>dist-upgraded to stretch and reinstalled the printer
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02:37<ransur0t>everything works now without error, and it appears the battery drain is also fixed
02:38<ransur0t>:) yay Stretch ;)
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04:00<punkgeek>i get this error when booting my debian, whats that?
04:00<punkgeek>modprobe module microcode not found in modules.dep
04:00<punkgeek>/deu/sda1 clean, 129756/610800 files, 1160976/2441216 blocks
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05:33<grove>I think I have screwed my mailman installation (on jessie) somewhat. I have a list that works for ordinary subscribers, but not for those that have selected digest mode, when senddigests run I get "warning: maildir access problem for UID/GID=38/38: create maildir file /var/list/Maildir/tmp/[...]" in my mail.log and no mails are sent. There is no /var/list on that server, but neither is there on a couple of other mailman servers I have checked, so I think ...
05:33<grove>... that is something where a debian-improvement is lost, but where?
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05:36<scootergrisen>How can i delete my user from DDTP website?
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05:43<musca>tmsbrg: yesterday you recommended fglrx. According to releasenotes (§5.11) fglrx in jessie isn't compatible with gnome.
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05:44<tmsbrg>musca, maybe that was the problem the guy had with resolution suddenly not working anymore
05:44<tmsbrg>I personally use XFCE
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05:45<musca>maybe ...
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06:04<gonzalo>hi, is there a option to minimize an application in the desktop entry? Thanks
06:04<Brigo>gonzalo, desktop entry?
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06:06<gonzalo>Brigo, /usr/share/applications/application.desktop
06:07<gonzalo>or /home/user/.config/autostart/application.desktop
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06:12<Brigo>gonzalo, i don't think so, but actually i don't know.
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06:28<vjed>hello
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06:45<Aspre>hi, my laptop have a bad cooler so its turnoff when a CPU work on 100%. How i can limit CPU using for 80-90%? GnomeDebian 8.4
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06:49<maxy>,v linux-cpupower
06:49<judd>Package: linux-cpupower on amd64 -- stretch: 4.4.6-1; sid: 4.4.6-1; experimental: 4.5-1~exp1
06:50<maxy>,v cpufrequtils
06:50<judd>Package: cpufrequtils on amd64 -- squeeze: 007-1+squeeze1; wheezy: 008-1; sid: 008-1; jessie: 008-1; stretch: 008-1
06:51<maxy>Ok, that's better
06:51<maxy>Aspre: Try using the powersave governor, or setting the maximum cpu freq
06:51<Aspre>ty
06:52<maxy>https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling
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06:57<Aspre>how i can make full backup of my system? ) debian 8.4
06:57<scootergrisen>If i mount a iso file and want to run a sh file. How come i cant do that without typing "sh " before?
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07:00<grove>Aspre: There are many options, depending on what you actually want (bare metal restore or just being able to copy data back), and what target you imagined using. You probably won't get much help unless you're more specific
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07:04<musca>!things to backup
07:04<dpkg>Some things you should back up include: /etc /home /root /usr/local /usr/src /opt /srv. Tailor to your own purposes. If you think you don't need /var, make sure you don't forget /var/lib/dpkg /var/backups /var/lib/apt* /var/lib/mysql /var/mail /var/www /var/cache/debconf /var/spool/cron ...
07:04<musca>and https://wiki.debian.org/BackupAndRecovery
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07:06<scootergrisen>I try to run sudo tasksel (in virtual box) and install GNOME but i get apt-get failed (100)
07:06<scootergrisen>What does the (100) mean?
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07:08<jm_>100 is exit code
07:09<grove>scootergrisen: Try running `sudo apt-get update` manually in that virtualbox
07:10<scootergrisen>Seems to work after update
07:10<scootergrisen>Where can i read what the exit codes mean?
07:11<jm_>man apt-get mentions it
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07:13<scootergrisen>It says it returns 100 on error.
07:13<scootergrisen>Would be nice to know what kind of error
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07:20<mer0>hi
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07:21<scootergrisen>;)
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07:22<jm_>100 is returned on all errors
07:24<wCPO>What the best place to get 4.5? I need it as rotation does not work on Skylake with 4.4
07:25<grove>4.5 of what?
07:25<wCPO>grove, kernel
07:28<grove>,v linux-image-amd64
07:28<judd>Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 3.2+46~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63; jessie-backports: 4.4+71~bpo8+1; sid: 4.4+71; stretch: 4.4+71
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07:30<grove>So 4.5 isn't available in any debian version yet, so you'll either have to wait or build your own kernel wih the risks that goes with that
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07:33<Brigo>wCPO, it is already in experimental: 4.5.0-trunk-686-pae, so maybe it will reach sid and testing soon.
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07:41<wCPO>Brigo, I tried searching on packages.debian.org before I asked and couldn't find any 4.5 package, neither can I now. Shouldn't it be show there?
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07:41<wCPO>My bad.
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07:42<wCPO>I can't find a amd64 package through, only a lot of other arch
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09:39<teatime>wow, that's the same password I have on luggage.example.com
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09:42<scootergrisen>Hey please dont write my root password in the chat
09:43<teatime>don't worry scootergrisen, it only shows up as ****** to us.
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09:43<scootergrisen>Thats my normal user password. 6 stars
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10:05<mike_>.
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10:06<tomi_>hello, I have a question. Is there exist some backports repo for Debian Stretch ?
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10:06<zumbi>tomi_: not really
10:07<satta>ll
10:07<zumbi>tomi_: it takes about 5-10days to get a package from sid to Strech.. so why would you think that's useful for?
10:07<satta>oops sry
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10:07<scootergrisen>I have install Xfce and GNOME, but how do i select which one to use when i login? It seem Xfce login (or what ever it is) does not have a option to select if i want to use Xfce or GNOME
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10:07<zumbi>tomi_: and a jessie backport can only be done once package hits Stretch :)
10:07<tomi_>Ok, thanks.
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10:09<tomi_>zumbi: Sorry I don't understand you
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10:10<zumbi>tomi_: what exactly you do not understand?
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10:10<tomi_>once package hits Stretch
10:11<tomi_>one 2 one
10:11<zumbi>tomi_: "Backports are packages taken from the next Debian release (called "testing"), adjusted and recompiled for usage on Debian stable."
10:11<tomi_>ok, I think I got it
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10:11<zumbi>you were asking if testing-backports exists
10:12<zumbi>tomi_: you understand now, right? :)
10:12<tomi_>yes
10:12<tomi_>ok
10:12<tomi_>thanks
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10:29<rndmus3r>whats up
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10:29<rndmus3r>what is XChat?
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10:31<satta>http://xchat.org ?
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12:16<mauro25987>hola
12:16<mauro25987>hi people
12:16<mauro25987>anyone can check a clean install debian on a virtual machine in virtual box?
12:17<mauro25987>For days will not let me install debian for example matt or kde
12:17<mauro25987>http://i.imgur.com/8Vv01kw.png
12:17<mauro25987>http://i.imgur.com/FqqaAHg.png
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12:19<blast007>mauro25987: I think there should be more details if you switch to a different virtual terminal. Use Alt+F2, Alt+F3, etc to switch.
12:20<blast007>one of them should have some info
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12:21<blast007>sounds like Alt+F4 is where the error messages will be
12:21<blast007>(main installer screen is Alt+F1)
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12:21<mauro25987>http://i.imgur.com/H6B4VN6.png
12:21<mauro25987>ok
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12:24<blast007>mauro25987: do you see anything helpful there?
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12:26<mauro25987>I have to do the installation back.
12:26<mauro25987>that stop the machine when I throw error.
12:26<mauro25987>It is that some days I feel the same.
12:26<mauro25987>thanks, I'm installing now
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12:27<blast007>mauro25987: how big is your virtual disk?
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12:28<mauro25987>5gb
12:29<mauro25987>is little?
12:29<blast007>that's pretty small, so you might be running out of space, especially if you're installing a desktop environment
12:30<blast007>I usually go with at least 20 so I have plenty of wiggle room
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12:31<mauro25987>it is for testing, as I put it?
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12:31<mauro25987>20 is not too ?, just want to try configurations there
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12:32<blast007>10GB might work if your host system is tight on space
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12:34<mauro25987>https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/apds02.html.en
12:35<blast007>do note the "important" message near the top
12:36<wCPO>Have anything changed in the stretch repository layout recently? I get W: Failed to fetch http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/stretch/main/source/Sources Hash Sum mismatch when installing some package from it from debian jessie.
12:36<blast007>wCPO: testing/unstable support is in #debian-next
12:36<wCPO>blast007, So many channels :)
12:36<blast007>:)
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12:38<mauro25987>ah ok blast007 thanks
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12:40<mauro25987>I'll try with 10 gb
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12:45<danielsh>you could check the error message in tty4 as said earlier, rather than guess
12:46<danielsh>gl
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12:48<backbox>hi
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13:15<mauro25987>http://i.imgur.com/WR5l0Tr.png
13:15<mauro25987>is a problem the space disk
13:15<mauro25987>fuck :/
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13:23<mauro25987>thanks blast007
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13:25<blast007>mauro25987: at least it's an easy problem to solve :)
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13:43<atskalunas>m,m
13:43<atskalunas>hello, how to open separate chat room?
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13:44<mtn>atskalunas: /join #channelname
13:45<atskalunas>what about if I want to create one?
13:45<blast007>same thing
13:45<mtn>atskalunas: same answer
13:45<atskalunas>thanks
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14:38<awar>hello evreyone, sorry my bad english but i need to resolve one problem. I can try to connect on tor net but i can't so i investigate and check the tor deamon if already exist. We found from this command ps aws | grep tor this serult
14:38<awar> 1000 2599 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000180000000 S+ pts/0 0:00 grep tor
14:38<awar>what the problem from your experience? Thanks
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14:39<retrospectacus>you are finding your own grep command in "ps" output
14:39<retrospectacus>(no result)
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15:20<awar>retrospectacus, sorry im not understand what you mean
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15:22<blast007>awar: the line you posted is just showing your grep process. it is not showing tor running.
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15:23<awar>blast007, i think that if there is not the deamon not the running. Right?
15:24<blast007>what?
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15:29<vortek>pusleadio isn't working. the deamon wont load either
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15:42<vortek>im at https://wiki.debian.org/PulseAudio#Installing_PulseAudio wich is no help
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15:46<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell vortek about ask
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15:47<retrospectacus>awar: "ps | grep something" will almost always output a line because there is a process running called "grep something" which matches "something"
15:47<awar>check this resutl tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:9050 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN -
15:47<awar>there is not software
15:48<awar>but is it in listen mode. Why?
15:48<awar>i mean the 9050 port
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15:48<awar>i need this port for use tor
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15:48<vortek>im running jessie and when ii try to start pulseaudio i get this error ..
15:48<vortek>vortek@Gardian:~$ pulseaudio
15:48<vortek>E: [pulseaudio] core-util.c: Failed to create secure directory (/run/user/1000/pulse): Permission denied
15:49<awar>vortek, try in root mode
15:49<retrospectacus>awar: try netstat as root.
15:51<vortek>This program is not intended to be run as root (unless --system is specified).
15:51<vortek>E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
15:51<vortek>E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
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15:51<teatime>retrospectacus: there's a nice trick for that: ps waux | grep [s]omething
15:51<vortek>and i tried --system with same resultd
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15:51<awar>im not find it. What the grep mode?
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16:10<Ruttolo>Hello, when I try to drag some text in gedit the whole computer freezes and not even REISUB can restart the computer. Any idea how to diagnose this?
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16:11<jmcnaught>Ruttolo: can you look for errors in your logs afer the computer restarts?
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16:12<Ruttolo>jmcnaught: which log?
16:13<mauro25987>where logging errors is saved when you start the system?
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16:14<awar>retrospectacus, yes tor start when pc
16:14<mauro25987>I do not see /var/log/boot.log
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16:15<retrospectacus>mauro25987: dmesg
16:15<mauro25987>only dmesg?
16:16<jmcnaught>Ruttolo: /var/log/syslog would be a good place to start. or the previous Xorg log /var/log/Xorg.1.log. My favourite is journald, but to see journals from previous boots you need to enable persitent journals as described in /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian
16:16<retrospectacus>Ruttolo: also ~/.xsession-errors
16:17<retrospectacus>mauro25987: yes. just run "dmesg" (or dmesg|less for easier reading/searching)
16:17<mauro25987>I just want to see the errors at the beginning
16:17<mauro25987>ok
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16:19<Ruttolo>(gedit:3080): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
16:19<Ruttolo>this was the last error before the kernel panic
16:19<Ruttolo>repeated multiple times
16:19<Ruttolo>how can gedit make the kernel crash?
16:21<mauro25987>dmesg only captures the beginning?
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16:23<retrospectacus>Ruttolo: are you runing gedit as root?
16:23<Ruttolo>retrospectacus: no I'm not
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16:26<Ruttolo>kernel: [ 4840.535643] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000008
16:26<Ruttolo>kernel: [ 4840.535673] IP: [<ffffffffa055bc3d>] radeon_fence_ref+0xd/0x50 [radeon]
16:26<Ruttolo>this is something to do with the open source radeon drivers
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16:33<Ruttolo>I'm gonna try to reboot in vesa and see if it changes anything
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16:44<mauro25987_>dmesg --level=err,warn :)
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16:49<Guest10792>hallo
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16:53<Ruttolo>Ok now everything is working fine after removing the package "readahead-fedora" which I really don't know what was doing other than making my radeon drivers crash
16:56<retrospectacus>,i readahead-fedora
16:56<judd>Package readahead-fedora (admin, optional) in jessie/amd64: Fedora's implementation of readahead to preload boot process files. Version: 2:1.5.6-5.2; Size: 33.1k; Installed: 83k; Homepage: https://fedorahosted.org/readahead/
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16:56<retrospectacus>huh
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17:07<Encrypt>Hello guys :S
17:07<Encrypt>I have quite an unconvenient problem
17:07-!-CutMeOwnThroat [~k@00013546.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
17:07<Encrypt>I upgraded my Debian Jessie this morning and my graphics card suddenly freezes from time to time
17:08<Encrypt>I suspect the kernel update to be the root of the problem
17:08<Encrypt>Here is the log: http://pastebin.com/5QNVWiE8
17:08<Encrypt>Is there a way to downgrade to an older kernel?
17:09<Encrypt>I'll be here at home for a week and I have coursework to do for the Uni
17:09<Encrypt>So, that was really not the moment :'(
17:10<Encrypt>Or is it a libc problem?
17:10<Encrypt>It was also upgraded
17:10<retrospectacus>you can choose the old kernel at the grub screen
17:10<Encrypt>retrospectacus, I can only see one
17:10<Encrypt>And only one is in /boot apparently
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17:11<Encrypt>I haven't modified my grub since the moment when I installed it
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17:13<Encrypt>OMG, it seems to be almost the same problem: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=820182
17:13<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/820182 in src:linux (open, moreinfo, patch, upstream): «linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64: freezes on scrolling in iceweasel»; severity: serious; opened: 2016-04-06; last modified: 2016-04-08.
17:14<narcan>Encrypt: it happens only in iceweasel?
17:14<Encrypt>OMG: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2319800
17:14<Encrypt>On xubuntu too
17:14<Encrypt>narcan, No, not only
17:14<Encrypt>We have a BIG issue here
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17:16<narcan>I had a similar issue, it was my nvidia driver. I did must install again it.
17:16<narcan>now it works fine
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17:18<prakhar>can anybody help me updating my ubuntu version
17:19<narcan>prakhar: try on a ubuntu IRC channel
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17:21<Encrypt>narcan, Apparently, it's a kernel problem
17:22<Encrypt>retrospectacus, My old kernels must be on my system, still
17:22<Encrypt>retrospectacus, Could you help me to boot from an old kernel?
17:22<Encrypt>retrospectacus, I haven't understood how to do that
17:23<retrospectacus>if it's not in /boot or grub then it got overwritten. I believe small (minor-version) kernel updates do that
17:23<Encrypt>Oh noes :(
17:23<retrospectacus>you could get the old one from <snapshots> if you know the version
17:23<Encrypt>retrospectacus, Is it possible to install an older kernel?
17:24<retrospectacus>or a date that it was the latest, or however snapshots works
17:24<retrospectacus>http://snapshot.debian.org/
17:24<Encrypt>retrospectacus, I have the linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 right now
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17:26<retrospectacus>,kernels
17:26<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.5.0-trunk-686-pae (4.5-1~exp1); sid: 4.4.0-1-686 (4.4.6-1); stretch: 4.4.0-1-686 (4.4.6-1); jessie-backports: 4.4.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.4.6-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.78-1)
17:27<retrospectacus>Encrypt: well, you could look into using snapshots to get a slightly older one, of you could try the jessie-backports one ^
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17:30<pulga>hello?
17:30<retrospectacus>pulga: welcome
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17:38<Fox682>I thought about changing my kernel to 4.4 since I'm on 3.16
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17:45<Encrypt>retrospectacus, Ok, thanks
17:45<Encrypt>I'm going to bed now
17:45<Encrypt>See you o/
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17:47<mauro25987>partition table order
17:47<mauro25987>Disk 20GB, 2GB of RAM, 32-bit i386
17:47<mauro25987>okay so?
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17:47<sney>mauro25987: what's your question?
17:47<mauro25987>asd
17:47<mauro25987>sorry
17:48<mauro25987>raiz Primary ext4 10gb
17:48<mauro25987> Home ext4 logic 8gb
17:48<mauro25987>swap Exchange logic 2gb
17:48<mauro25987>raiz = root sorry
17:49<mauro25987>okay the table so?
17:49<sney>mauro25987: what's your question?
17:49<mauro25987>if well partitioned disk 20 gb
17:50<sney>looks fine to me.
17:50<mauro25987>. / 10 gb primary, /home 8gb logic and swap 2gb logic
17:52<sney>looks fine to me.
17:52<mauro25987>ok thanks
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18:12<cy6erlion>#joiin
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18:15<onlyfkacc>did someone heard a loud motocycle?
18:16<onlyfkacc>strange
18:18<onlyfkacc>linux saved my life
18:18<onlyfkacc>i shall be in debt for the rest of my life
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18:20<onlyfkacc>shall the debian be my guidance
18:21<sney>onlyfkacc: if you have a support question, you can ask it. if you just want to chat try /join #moocows
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18:24<onlyfkacc>i have only one regret in life, told once that shellscript if junk
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18:33<onlyfkacc>my hapiness is not complete because i cant have debian in my mobile
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18:33<onlyfkacc>is there any plans for it?
18:34<grove>!chat
18:34<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
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18:58<nighthawk>hey, how you doing!
18:59<retrospectacus>nighthawk: great. do you have a debian question?
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19:00<nighthawk>yeah I do. I couldn't get to the topic so what is your topic?
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19:01<retrospectacus>debian support
19:01<retrospectacus>!ask
19:01<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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19:02<nighthawk>Okay! thanks!
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19:03<Brigo>nighthawk, if you want to read the topic just write /topic
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19:05<nighthawk>Thanks for the help Brigo
19:05<Brigo>nighthawk, np :)
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19:07<nighthawk>So when did you join #debian
19:07<nighthawk>So when did you join #debian Brigo?
19:07<teatime>nighthawk: you might find #debian-offtopic more appropriate
19:08<KaiserAres>hey guys, anyone have experience with ndiswrapper, I have an old dell use wireless adapter i wanna get working with a debian which i just put on an old pc
19:08<KaiserAres>now im looking around and a bit confused, do i need the dell driver? or a win32 thing?
19:08<retrospectacus>KaiserAres: what says "dmesg|tail" after inserting the adapter? (show us with http://paste.debian.net)
19:09<KaiserAres>dmesg|tail in terminal?
19:09<retrospectacus>right
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19:10<KaiserAres>ok two seconds gotta copy and paste it over to this computer which has internet...
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19:12<KaiserAres>btw, loving debian and how it behaves on this old pc as well
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19:12<nighthawk>Yeah I know KaiserAres debian is awesome
19:16<nighthawk>So retrospectacus, can you teach me the ropes hear. Im new to debian
19:16<retrospectacus>no, but if you ask a specific question, I might have the answer
19:17<retrospectacus>and if I don't, someone else might
19:18<retrospectacus>nighthawk: you can also talk to the dpkg robot here. type /msg dpkg fundamentals
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19:19<retrospectacus>nighthawk: basically say any debian-related word or phrase (or lots of other things) to the robot in that private message and he will tell you something useful about it
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19:20<KaiserAres>ok retrospectacus https://paste.debian.net/428352/
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19:23<retrospectacus>KaiserAres: I believe the package "firmware-linux-nonfree" will support that thing
19:24<KaiserAres>wow cool, and a stupid question how can i get that package so i can transfer it over usb...
19:25<retrospectacus>KaiserAres: go here https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-linux-nonfree
19:25<retrospectacus>KaiserAres: go all the way to the bottom and click "all"
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19:25<retrospectacus>then click any one of the mirror links and you will get a .deb file downloaded
19:26<teatime>KaiserAres: tbh, no matter how inconvenient connecting via an ethernet cable may be, doing so will probably frustrate you less than fixing the issue w/o internet access.
19:26<retrospectacus>KaiserAres: transfer that file to the laptop and run "sudo dpkg -i firmware-linux-nonfree*.deb" to install it
19:26<teatime>although that doesn't apply if you get lucky and the one package (which doesn't have deps) is enough to fix it
19:26<retrospectacus>that's the hope
19:26<jmcnaught>,file isl3887usb
19:26<judd>No packages in jessie/amd64 were found with that file.
19:27<jmcnaught>that firmware file might not be in firmware-linux-nonfree, unless it has a different name for some reason
19:31<KaiserAres>should i run it in package manager or cmd line
19:32<retrospectacus>recommend cli as it provides useful output
19:32<jmcnaught>KaiserAres: bad news :/ if you search this page https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware for that firmware file (isl3887usb) you'll find a link that eventually brings one to https://wiki.debian.org/prism54 which says that this firmware file is not packaged for Debian
19:32<KaiserAres>ok retro
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19:32<KaiserAres>ah great news :)
19:33<retrospectacus>dang
19:33<jmcnaught>KaiserAres: https://wiki.debian.org/prism54 this page however does say where to get it. when you download the file you'll want to put it in /usr/local/lib/firmware (where locally installed firmwares go)
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19:35<retrospectacus>p54usb - second generation - indicates you get it from this daemonizer place
19:35<KaiserAres>yep having a read of that now jmcnaught
19:35<KaiserAres>yeah retrospectacus i think thats the one i need too
19:35<jmcnaught>hopefully /that/ link isn't dead :)
19:35<KaiserAres>downloaded :)
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19:36<retrospectacus>KaiserAres: regard jmcnaught's comment about /usr/local/lib/, not /lib
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19:41<KaiserAres>sorry jmcnaught if i dont have a /firmware folder should i make one? os just drop it into /usr/local/lib
19:42<jmcnaught>KaiserAres: do a "mkdir /usr/local/lib/firmware" first then put the file in that directory. also remember to rename the file to isl3887usb
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19:49<KaiserAres>yep so did all that and i did it right i believe, got my file renamed into the folder from the cmd line, plugged usb wireless thing backin and saw nothing, ran dmesg|tail again and same error, looked into the /usr/local/lib foler and other then the one i just created there was only 2 pythonfolders, perhaps i put it in the wrong place?
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19:50<KaiserAres>and i su to admin to make sure i had the permissions
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19:50<jmcnaught>KaiserAres: "ls -l /usr/local/lib/firmware/isl3887usb" shows the file is there?
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19:53<KaiserAres>yep, but there is nothing else really in that lib folder, where as /lib has loads of stuff, perhaps it should go there?
19:53<jmcnaught>KaiserAres: /lib is supposed to be reserved for files managed by the package system
19:53<KaiserAres>sorry sorry
19:54<KaiserAres>i mean /usr/lib
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19:54<jmcnaught>KaiserAres: /usr/lib is also for the package system, files installed manually are supposed to go in /usr/local.
19:55<KaiserAres>hmm, restart the system?
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19:57<jmcnaught>KaiserAres: maybe not, one moment
19:57<retrospectacus>what did "modprobe p54usb" output?
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19:58<KaiserAres>nothing
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19:58<jmcnaught>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=729252#21 <-- it seems that https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware is incorrect, on Jessie only /lib/firmware is checked, so KaiserAres you will need to put the firmware there
19:58<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/729252 in udev (closed): «udev: firmware can not be loaded because filesystem not yt mounted»; severity: normal; opened: 2013-11-10; last modified: 2013-12-10.
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19:59*jmcnaught discovers this after editing the prism54 page in english and french :/
19:59<jmcnaught>KaiserAres: sorry for the confusion.
19:59<KaiserAres>dude dont be sorry im learning
19:59<KaiserAres>so, where would you like me to place teh isl3887usb file?
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20:01<jmcnaught>KaiserAres: /lib/firmware/
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20:04<KaiserAres>ok, and now run "modprobe -r p54usb ; modprobe p54usb" ??
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20:11<jmcnaught>KaiserAres: yes that should do it.
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20:12<jmcnaught>KaiserAres: then you'll want to check dmesg output to see if the firmware was loaded correctly. if it was you can configure the wifi any of the normal ways
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20:17<KaiserAres>yep i did it, it wasnt https://paste.debian.net/428515/
20:18<KaiserAres>jmcnaught think ill try again with the first gen firmware
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20:19<KaiserAres>oh no it cant be the first gen cos its askign for 3887 not 3886
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20:47<ryan_>Hey, I'm running Jessie alongside Kali and whichever one I install first gives me a start job running on /dev/disk type error and wait 90 seconds??
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20:49<bill-auger>ryan - i see something like that often also on shutdown yes? - i do not ever see the work "error" tho - it just some timeout - i have not yet figured it what it is tho
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20:52<ryan_>I get it on shutdown from Debian once in a while, the shutdown one says CUPS printer something or other
20:53<ryan_>I'm just curious as to what needs 1m 30s exactly everytime? I just installed an SSD and it's cramping my fast booting abilities.
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20:56<Fox682-Cloud>networking/DHCP?
20:56<teatime>!ask
20:56<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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22:02<nom>Hello is there a chatroom where I can get help for LAMPP?
22:03<nom>#lamp
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23:03<bob>,v bandwidth
23:03<judd>No package named 'bandwidth' was found in amd64.
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23:27<Bragard>Bonjour
23:28<Bragard>y a quelqu'un
23:28<Bragard>?
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