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00:36<vortek>hello, im stuck in package heck hehe
00:36<vortek>http://pastebin.com/fHdMWd1V
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00:37<vortek>i get those errors when trying to install anything
00:39<jmcnaught>!bat
00:39<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
00:39<jmcnaught>vortek: can you do the above please, and use http://paste.debian.net/ instead of pastebin?
00:40<vortek>k
00:42<vortek>i have to wait for apt to remove some crap first
00:42<jmcnaught>vortek: okay.. are you just making the problem worse before providing the requested troubleshooting information?
00:43<vortek>hrm apt has gone crazy! it even removed python haha
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00:47<vortek>jmcnaught: http://paste.debian.net/432080/
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00:51<jmcnaught>vortek: can you also do "apt-cache policy gnome"?
00:51<vortek>yes
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00:52<jmcnaught>vortek: have you done "apt-get update" recently, or recently removed anything from your sources.list?
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00:53<vortek>http://paste.debian.net/432081/
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00:55<jmcnaught>vortek: did you see my question above? what does "aptitude why-not gnome-core" say?
00:55<vortek>one sec
00:56<vortek>comman not found
00:56<vortek>hah
00:56<vortek>my system if fubard lol
00:57<jmcnaught>vortek: "apt-get install aptitude" and then "aptitude install ~E ~prequired ~pimportant ~pstandard"
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00:58<vortek>it wont install aptitude complams about depends
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00:59<vortek>complains
00:59<jmcnaught>vortek: it's hard to help if i can't see the output, please use pastes
01:00<vortek>http://paste.debian.net/432082/
01:02<jmcnaught>vortek: it could be that 3rd party i2p2 repo causeing a conflict. what happens if you try to install libxapian22, or check it with apt-cache policy?
01:02<vortek>k
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01:02<vortek>well i dont need i2p
01:02<vortek>one sec
01:03<vortek>it installed fine
01:04<vortek>but removed synaptic
01:04<vortek>i didnt tell it to remove synaptic
01:04<jmcnaught>vortek: did it say it was going to remove synaptic and you answered yes?
01:05<jmcnaught>vortek: "apt-cache policy aptitude libxapian22" <-- add other packages you've had trouble with to the list
01:06<vortek>no it just removed it
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01:06<vortek>k
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01:07<jmcnaught>vortek: i'm pretty skeptical of that. you could show a paste of that too i guess.
01:07<vortek>ok
01:07<vortek>oh yeah
01:08<vortek>it gave me option to continue
01:08<vortek>my bad
01:08<jmcnaught>vortek: be more careful answer questions, read what it's asking before you say yes
01:08<vortek>ok
01:10<vortek>jmcnaught: http://paste.debian.net/432083/
01:11<jmcnaught>vortek: i asked you to check libxapian22, and any other packages that you're having trouble with
01:11<vortek>i am having trouble with gnome and that is output of the errors
01:12<vortek>:)
01:12<vortek>http://paste.debian.net/432082/
01:13<vortek>thats the output of libxapian22
01:13<vortek>are these the outputs you wanted?
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01:14<jm_>obviously not as you have showed that before -- apt-cache policy libxapian22
01:14<jmcnaught>vortek: that's not the output of "apt-cache policy libxapian22" I have libxapian22 and synaptic installed at the same time. "apt-cache policy" can take multple packages, so instead of doing a whole bunch of individual pastes you can do "apt-cache policy libxapian22 aptitude synaptic" etc listing a bunch you've had trouble with.
01:15<vortek>ok
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01:17<vortek>jmcnaught: http://paste.debian.net/432085/
01:20<vortek>any ideas?
01:21<jmcnaught>vortek: i don't know, those look like all the correct versions. it would be helpful to get some sort of history of what happened to cause the problem at first. you could maybe make pastes of /var/log/apt/history.log and /var/log/apt/term.log. It's not clear to me why installing that version of libxapian22 would have removed synaptic
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01:21<vortek>ok i post logs
01:22<jm_>note these lines for synaptic -- "0.83+b1 0" and "100 /var/lib/dpkg/status" - that's a version from testing/sid
01:22<jm_>so no major surprises things are broken
01:23<jmcnaught>ahh.. good catch
01:23<jmcnaught>vortek: do did you previously have unstable listed in sources.list and remove it before this paste? http://paste.debian.net/432080/
01:23<vortek>yeah to switc back from testing i just changed to sources.list from testing to jessie
01:24<vortek>no
01:24<vortek>oh yeah
01:24<jm_>haha
01:24<jmcnaught>vortek: dude, you could have saved us all a bunch of time by simply mentioning how you caused this in the first place. downgrades from testing to stable don't work and aren't supported
01:24<vortek>oh im sorry :(
01:25<jmcnaught>vortek: from now on please tell the full story
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01:25<vortek>ok will do
01:25<jmcnaught>vortek: anyways good luck, you'll probably need to reinstall if you want jessie again.
01:25<vortek>ok
01:26<vortek>im ok with using testing .. so i will just use that.
01:26<vortek>sorry about the confusion
01:29<vortek>everything is working now
01:30<jmcnaught>vortek: glad you figured it out. now that you're on testing, you'll want to use #debian-next instead of #debian.
01:30<vortek>thanxs man :)
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02:09<hespe1>is there a way t adjust screen resolution in Debian 8.3?
02:10<ach>that is something for me i can't get enough of hearing about
02:11<ach>but it very well works very fine to all states at last anyway had Jessy desktop run on kernel 2.6
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02:13<ach>hespe1 the only solution i know is through the driver since i got known xfree has not anymore a configuration file but it was some things in usr you could do this
02:14<jm_>adjust it how?
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02:24<jelly>hespe1: when running X, use xrandr or a GUI for it
02:25<hespe1>cool, thanks
02:25<Continuum>thats a noob trick
02:26<Continuum>do you have an xorg.conf? if not you can create one and it will override any others. Just create it in /etc/X11
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02:27<Continuum>from there you have complete control. You would probably have to do this if you had a video card, but then again, debian is becoming so easy peezy for new users
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02:32<Continuum>the reason why I would not use xrandr is because it can only be ran once the X is loaded. So everytime you reboot you have to run this command. You could have a ran from a startup script perhaps, but its just sloppy
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03:19<ach>to the above you must just search perl in usr their the xwindow configuration files
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04:07<grove>I think I have screwed my mailman installation (on jessie) somewhat. I have a list that works for ordinary subscribers, but not for those that have selected digest mode, when senddigests run I get "warning: maildir access problem for UID/GID=38/38: create maildir file /var/list/Maildir/tmp/[...]" in my mail.log and no mails are sent. There is no /var/list on that server, but neither is there on a couple of other mailman servers I have checked, so I think ...
04:07<grove>... that is something where a debian-improvement is lost, but where?
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04:44<lord_rob>Hi! What's wrong with my /etc/sudoers ? My user belongs to group sudo and I'm trying to allow sudo without password for all users (I'm the only user of this box) http://paste.debian.net/432102/
04:46<duclicsic>lord_rob: groups are denoted by the presence of a % at the start of the line, you're missing that
04:46<duclicsic>should be:
04:46<duclicsic>%sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
04:46<duclicsic>or
04:46<duclicsic>with the NOCPASSWD bit
04:46<duclicsic>i just took that from my own file
04:47<lord_rob>visudo didn't complain though
04:47<duclicsic>why would it?
04:47<duclicsic>it thinks you want to give sudo access to a user called sudo
04:47<otyugh>visudo may only check for semantic stuff, not the argument validity
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04:48<duclicsic>just stick a % at the start of the line and you're sorted
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04:49<lord_rob>so I need a % on lines 21 and 27 then ?
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04:50<lord_rob>even if for root it's not very important
04:50<otyugh>only 27
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04:51<lord_rob>ok
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04:52<duclicsic>strange really, the default sudoers file in debian has the correct line to give access to the sudo group, i think it just needs uncommenting
04:52<lord_rob>hmmm it still does not work
04:53<duclicsic>make sure you try a new terminal
04:53<duclicsic>log out / in
04:53<lord_rob>that's what I did
04:53<duclicsic>does it show you are a member of the sudo group when you type 'groups' ?
04:54<lord_rob>robert is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
04:54<jm_>mom will be angry tonight!
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04:54<duclicsic>'usermod -a -G sudo robert'
04:55<lord_rob>when I type groups I'm not in sudo
04:56<lord_rob>however when I do adduser robert sudo I'm already in the group
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04:56<duclicsic>ok. open a brand new terminal
04:56<duclicsic>and try there
04:56<jm_>or use newgrp/sg
04:56<duclicsic>if you do 'grep sudo /etc/group' does your username show up?
04:57<lord_rob>root@lightning-ng:/home/robert# adduser robert sudo
04:57<lord_rob>The user `robert' is already a member of `sudo'.
04:58<lord_rob>it does
04:58<duclicsic>ok, and opening a fresh terminal and trying to use sudo still fails?
04:59<lord_rob>yes
04:59<lord_rob>it says I'm not in sudoers
04:59<otyugh>groups ?
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04:59<duclicsic>lord_rob: show your current sudoers file
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05:02<lord_rob>http://paste.debian.net/432109/
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05:03<duclicsic>well that looks correct
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05:07<lord_rob>actually that file was the one I had before coming here and asking. As it didn't work, I tried something different which did not look correct to me (and wasn't actually :-) ). So I came here and asked ...
05:08<duclicsic>lord_rob: hmm, i thought opening a new terminal would apply the new group, but in testing apparently that's not the case
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05:08<jm_>naah, like I said, you need sg/newgrp commands
05:08<jm_>or logout and login again
05:10<lord_rob>reboot the box, easiest solution ?
05:10<duclicsic>logging out of all sessions would be sufficient, but if you can reboot then why not..
05:12<lord_rob>ok it's just a home PC so yes, let's do the windows way :)
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05:16<lord_rob>Back, it works now. Thanks very much !
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05:46<MiCR0>Could someone please give me some advice with a Debian problem.
05:47<MiCR0>I am running Jessie inside vmware, on VMXNET 3 & on change of network cards and reboot no data is being written into 70-persistent-net.rules
05:47<MiCR0>It is never made no matter what I do? open-vm-tools are install but on clone the whole interface has not been rebuilt.
05:47<MiCR0>lib/udev/write_net_rules all_interfaces returns missing $INTERFACE
05:47<MiCR0>udevadm trigger --typer=devices --action=change does not help
05:47<MiCR0>ifconfig shows 1 interface eth0 which i setup when I installed Debian
05:47<MiCR0>ifconfig -a shows all the correct interfaces that they should be.
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05:48<jm_>from 75-persistent-net-generator.rules:
05:48<jm_># ignore interfaces with locally administered or null MAC addresses
05:48<jm_># and VMWare, Hyper-V, KVM, Virtualbox and Xen virtual interfaces
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05:49<MiCR0>mac address are all regenerated on clone
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05:49<pavel_>hi all.need some help. I can't open the web-panel of my router from browser. Ping 192.168.0.1 ok. And I can open it wit my Mac and iOS and Windows. Only Debian 8.4 have an issue (((
05:50<pavel_>I thing I have wrong net configure on Linux
05:51<jm_>you should check if it matches those listed below this comment
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06:14<MiCR0>jm_ what do you think the problem is?
06:14<jm_>MiCR0: without knowing the details I'd say your MAC matches those below the comment I mentioned so it gets skipped
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06:17<MiCR0>Reinitialize of MAC address are done when the box is cloned there are no duplication and they are set as can be seen in ifconfig -a
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06:20<jm_>I think you don't understand what I am trying to say -- my guess is the generator in 75-persistent-net-generator.rules skips it because it matches those listed there
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06:22<jm_>obviously this is just a guess
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06:24<MiCR0>just removeing all eth* in /etc/network/interface and now rebooting
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06:24<MiCR0>did not work
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06:28<MiCR0>anyone got any more ideas
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08:06<mystic>test
08:06<mystic>hi all
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08:07<mystic>zxc
08:07<mystic>anyone in here?
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08:35<scootergrisen>Why does apt-get ask me to remove kate when i try to remove vlc? If i run "sudo apt-get remove vlc" it says that these packages will be uninstalled: "kate kde-runtime libkateinterfaces4 phonon phonon-backend-vlc vlc vlc-plugin-pulse"
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08:44<duclicsic>scootergrisen: see reply in this bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=800039
08:44<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/800039 in kget (open): «kget depends on vlc»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-09-25; last modified: 2015-09-26.
08:44<musca>,why kate vlv
08:44<judd>No dependency chain found between packages kate and vlv in jessie/amd64.
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08:44<musca>,why kate vlc
08:44<judd>Packages kate and vlc in jessie/amd64 are linked by 2 chains: kate ▶ katepart ▶ libkatepartinterfaces4 ▶ libkio5 ▷ kdelibs5-plugins ▷ kde-runtime ▶ phonon ▶ phonon-backend-vlc ▶ vlc-plugin-pulse ▶ vlc; kate ▶ katepart ▶ libkatepartinterfaces4 ▶ libkio5 ▷ kdelibs5-plugins ▷ kde-runtime ▶ phonon ▶ phonon-backend-vlc ▷ vlc
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08:51<azzamsa>im sorry to disturb you all, but can i ask help to register an account in http://forums.debian.net/, i always try more than 10 times, and it always said that my ip is spammer, i have tried to use 3 different machine, but the result is same.
08:52<azzamsa>sorry for disturbing.
08:53<scootergrisen>Can i remove vlc without removing kate?
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08:54<blast007>scootergrisen: you have to install some other phonon-backend that doesn't depend on vlc
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08:57<scootergrisen>Is this normal that a removing a media player will ask to use a text editor?
08:58<scootergrisen>... ask to remove a text editor
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08:58<blast007>sure, because it uses phonon, and you're using a phonon backend that requires vlc
08:59<scootergrisen>ok
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09:20<scootergrisen>What Debian do i need to install to test GNOME 3.20?
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09:21<towo^work>scootergrisen, experimental
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09:22<towo^work>but experimental is not a distribution
09:24<scootergrisen>What do people do if they want to test GNOME 3.20?
09:25<musca>scootergrisen: for a start you look at this https://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.20-status.html
09:25<scootergrisen>Like lets say i translated something and wanted to test GNOME 3.20 with the new changes in translation
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09:26<scootergrisen>Mabye install experimental in virtualbox?
09:28<musca>no, what towo probably meant is: the 3.20 isn't available in any repo but experimental. And that's not an installable release.
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09:48<user01>would it be a BIOS issue if when i plug in the power cable to the dock it doesnt work/is detected, but plugging directly into the laptop the dock and laptop work?
09:48<user01>eg. -- not a possible kernel issue?
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09:50<grove>I think that's more liekæy to be a hardware issue
09:52<user01>grove, ok then -- then not for here i suppose -- i already swapped out the dock to test, but this would mean the 2nd bad dock -- or possibly something with the laptop
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09:57<scootergrisen>Then how do people test GNOME 3.20?
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09:59<towo^work>scootergrisen, they install it from experimental
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10:00<scootergrisen>In virtualbox or something?
10:00<sney>packages from experimental can be installed on sid and sometimes testing. a vm is often a good idea, yes
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10:13<scootergrisen>If i run a executeable from the console it blocks from using the console while the program is running. How can i run a program from the console without blockin it?
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10:15<Brigo>scootergrisen, ending the line with a &
10:16<Brigo>& will send the job to the background
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10:17<scootergrisen>Should there be a space?
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10:17<jmlongo>yep
10:18<scootergrisen>thanks
10:18<scootergrisen>That was nice and simple way to do it
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10:34<zethalion>Hi! Does anyone know about jigdo-lite errors?
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10:35<grove>!ask
10:35<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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10:37<zethalion>when I run jigdo-lite to download the 8.4 distro I get strange errors like these: ./jigdo-file: 1: ./jigdo-file: ELF�4�=4 ��: not found
10:38<retrospectacus>does that happeing when downloading other things with jigdo?
10:39<retrospectacus>happen*
10:39<zethalion>I tried all .jigdo files 1 to 13
10:39<retrospectacus>other things besides 8.3
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10:40<zethalion>I also redownloaded the jigdo+template files from multi mirrors but the results are the same
10:40<zethalion>No, this is my first attempt to use jigdo
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10:41<retrospectacus>are you following these instructions? https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/
10:41<zethalion>to the letter
10:41<cruvolo>Hello, all. Is icedove/thuderbird "release" status no longer available for jessie? Only esr in main?
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10:43<zethalion>the files I have to work with are debian-8.4.0-amd64-DVD-[1-13].jigdo|.template
10:44<sney>cruvolo: looks like it.
10:44<cruvolo>sney: this concerns me because now I have to downgrade icedove.
10:44<retrospectacus>zethalion: I am gonna try it
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10:45<zethalion>I'll wait with patience :)
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10:46<blast007>cruvolo: the version of icedove I'm seeing in Jessie is 38.7, which is basically the latest stable
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10:48<retrospectacus>zethalion: it is downloading a lot of deb files. https://paste.debian.net/432179/ Did yours get that far?
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10:49<zethalion>Nope, see this: https://paste.debian.net/432181/
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10:51<retrospectacus>zethalion: what OS are you on and where did you get that "jigdo-bin-0.7.3" ?
10:52<zethalion>ubuntu 14.4
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10:52<zethalion>http://atterer.org/jigdo/
10:52<cruvolo>blast007: yes, you're right.. I think I was mixing up iceweasel "release" and assuming icedove was on a release branch as well.
10:53<retrospectacus>zethalion: use "jigdo-file" from the ubuntu repositories
10:53<zethalion>I'll give it a try, get right back at you
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10:55<zethalion>:D Works! I feel a bit dumb I forgot to try that
10:55<retrospectacus>zethalion: it looks like your jigdo-lite is trying to run your jigdo-file program as a bash script when it's actually a libc binary. Something the matter with your mnt/d/jigdo-bin-0.7.3 package
10:55<retrospectacus>great
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10:56<retrospectacus>always prefer the repositories :)
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10:57<zethalion>Too bad development of jigdo-lite has stopped. But thanks! You've been a great help
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11:52<jamping2000>Hello , I can ask a question in Russian?
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11:54<retrospectacus>jamping2000: not here, no.
11:54<retrospectacus>!ru
11:54<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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11:56<jamping2000>retrospectacus, Thank you !
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12:12<jamping2000>how to connect to the network via wi-fi?
12:13<sney>https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse
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12:14<jamping2000>I do not understand English documentation
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12:16<sney>then I don't see how an english channel will help.
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12:17<sney>did you go to #debian-russian on freenode? Please note, that is a different irc network than this one. if you are using hexchat or x-chat, you can right click here and choose connect: irc://chat.freenode.net/debian-russian
12:17<jamping2000>my internet works only on Wi-Fi, which is not seen in Debian with ifconfig
12:18<blast007>jamping2000: that page has a russian translation. Note the links to a few translations near the top.
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12:21<jamping2000>sney, on the #debian-russian on freenode full silence
12:22<sney>ok, did you see blast007's suggestion? https://wiki.debian.org/ru/WiFi/HowToUse
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13:42<leni1> Hello. I'm having problems getting pepper flash to work in both Chromium and Mozilla. I installed pepper flash using this guide: https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer/Installing substituting 'apt-get' for aptitude. Restarted my browsers and a video is asking me to Install Flash Player. Disabled Flash Player plugin from Adobe. There isn't a pepper flash plugin showing in chrome://plugins.
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13:43<retrospectacus>leni1: what website
13:43<leni1>I've looked at the other forum posts on this and they reference files I don't have.
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13:43<leni1>retrospectacus: BBC programmes
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13:45<leni1>retrospectacus: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03m59lt
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13:45<leni1>That's the test link I'm using in Chromium
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14:23<chele>is there virtio signed drivers for debian to virtualize win7?
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14:25<fxroam>yey
14:25<chele>i am trying to install a windows guest but no matter what I do it can't detect the disk. I tried https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Windows_Virtio_Drivers these and these https://launchpad.net/kvm-guest-drivers-windows/+download but no look.
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16:47<grove>I think I have screwed my mailman installation (on jessie) somewhat. I have a list that works for ordinary subscribers, but not for those that have selected digest mode, when senddigests run I get "warning: maildir access problem for UID/GID=38/38: create maildir file /var/list/Maildir/tmp/[...]" in my mail.log and no mails are sent. There is no /var/list on that server, but neither is there on a couple of other mailman servers I have checked, so I think ...
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16:47<grove>... that is something where a debian-improvement is lost, but where?
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17:02<BloodyRum>Every time I look up how to install Steam on Debian it says just use apt-get but aptitude cant find the steam package. What am I doing wrong?
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17:05<sney>,v steam --arch=i386
17:05<judd>Package: steam on i386 -- jessie/non-free: 1.0.0.49-1; stretch/non-free: 1.0.0.51-1; sid/non-free: 1.0.0.51-1
17:05<sney>BloodyRum: did you add non-free and the i386 architecture?
17:05<adb>read too https://wiki.debian.org/Steam
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17:06<BloodyRum>sney, Considering I dont know what those are I am guessing no.
17:06<sney>BloodyRum: ok, read adb's link, it explains the steps
17:07<sney>if you have problems with a specific step feel free to ask
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17:11<BloodyRum>sney: deb command was not found, now im a bit lost
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17:11<sney>BloodyRum: that's not a command, please read everything instead of just blindly typing stuff
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17:12<sney>Add a "non-free" component to /etc/apt/sources.list, for example: <- this means /etc/apt/sources.list is a text file, which you must edit
17:12<BloodyRum>sney: *facepalm* I thought that it ment it was adding it in bash, not adding to a list file
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17:13<sney>when you open that file, there will probably already be a line that ends with 'jessie main' so you can just add 'contrib non-free' onto the end of it
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17:26<BloodyRum>sney: This is what I get after "aptitude install steam" "steam" exists in the package database, but it is not a
17:26<BloodyRum>real package and no package provides it.
17:28<blast007>BloodyRum: you ran an 'apt-get update' after editing your sources.list?
17:28<BloodyRum>Yes
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17:29<sney>BloodyRum: can you pastebin your sources.list please?
17:29<Gabriel_7>BloodyRum, you need to enable i386 architecture (dpkg --add-architecture i386 ; apt-get update)
17:29<BloodyRum>Gabriel_7: I did do that
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17:31<BloodyRum>sney: http://pastebin.com/Hgu5jpSW
17:31<sney>BloodyRum: you misspelled the url in the last line. it's httpredir
17:32<BloodyRum>sney: Its a bit hard to see when its glowing green :(
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17:34<sney>BloodyRum: well, change your color settings then. anyway, fix that and apt-get update and steam should install fine
17:34<BloodyRum>sney: Yup its installing now
17:34<sney>!next
17:34<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
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17:35<BloodyRum>sney: Not yet...
17:35<BloodyRum>sney: When I do a search for steam it does not appear
17:36<sney>sometimes menu items need a log out/log in before they will appear. can you run 'steam' from a terminal?
17:36<BloodyRum>command not found
17:37<sney>what about /usr/games/steam
17:38<BloodyRum>No such file or directory
17:39<sney>ok, sounds like it didn't really install. when you ran 'apt-get install steam' what was the output? can you pastebin it?
17:40<BloodyRum>Are you able to undo clear command?
17:41<sney>clear just clears the current window, you can usually scroll back up
17:42<BloodyRum>http://pastebin.com/0fYXZ0fQ
17:43<sney>Installation terminated: Steam License Agreement was DECLINED.
17:44<sney>it should have asked you to agree/disagree with a curses dialog
17:44<sney>if it didn't, it might reappear if you dpkg-reconfigure steam
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18:00<BloodyRum>sney: Its... ALIVE!!! Thank you for the exelent help
18:01<sney>np
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18:02<BloodyRum>sney: My next journey will be to install a Nvidia driver and use dual monitors, This may be annoying
18:02<sney>dual monitors is pretty ok if you're using a desktop environment (gnome, kde etc). nvidia is fine with the debian packages, don't download anything from nvidia.com
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18:03<sney>https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
18:04<BloodyRum>I remember earler I tryed and run into a huge Xorg problem and just reinstalled Debian
18:04<sney>that was probably overkill
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18:05<sney>X problems can be annoying to troubleshoot though
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18:20<BloodyRum>sney: Think you can help? Its saying the Nvidia driver needs to be auto configured...
18:21<sney>ignore that and follow the 'manual' configuration section here: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Manual
18:21<sney>the automatic method hard-configures a lot of options that are better left to X's best guesses
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18:24<BloodyRum>I just did that part, before I restart is there anything I should do considering I have two monitors, one connected to GPU one connected to Onboard?
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18:25<sney>is the onboard intel?
18:25<BloodyRum>I do belive so
18:25<sney>should be fine on its own then
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18:26<BloodyRum>ok, Lets hope this works
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18:31<bloodyrum>It did not work sney
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18:33<bloodyrum>sney: Installing the driver made xorg not work and now I have no desktop enviroment along with Window manager
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18:38<sney>bloodyrum: pastebin your Xorg.0.log
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18:40<bloodyrum>sney: I do not know how to pastebin when I do not have Desktop enviro
18:40<sney>!pastebinit
18:40<dpkg>pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
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18:44<bloodyrum>sney: paste.debian.net/432268/
18:47<sney>bloodyrum: and the config file you created when you followed the wiki instructions?
18:47<bloodyrum>sney: paste.debian.net/432270/
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18:48<sney>huh. are you sure you have a nvidia gpu? can you pastebin 'lspci -nn'?
18:49<bloodyrum>sney: paste.debian.net/432271/
18:49<sney>,pciid 10de:1287
18:49<judd>[10de:1287] is 'GK208 [GeForce GT 730]' from 'NVIDIA Corporation' with kernel modules 'nouveau', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10de:1287 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module.
18:50<sney>,pciid 10de:1287 --release sid
18:50<judd>[10de:1287] is 'GK208 [GeForce GT 730]' from 'NVIDIA Corporation' with no known kernel module in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10de:1287 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module.
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18:50<sney>hrmpf
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18:52<bloodyrum>sney: Find anything wrong yet?
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18:53<sney>bloodyrum: did the nvidia kernel module load? you can check in 'lsmod'
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18:54<bloodyrum>sney: I cannot see all the text it outputs
18:55<sney>you can slow it down by running lsmod |less
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18:56<bloodyrum>sney: I see nvidia then a large number then 0 after it
18:56<sney>ok, so it did load. huh. I don't know
18:57<bloodyrum>sney: Am I able to have xorg make new file so I can still use X11?
18:57<bloodyrum>sney: New config file
18:57<sney>bloodyrum: yeah, if you delete the mini xorg.conf you made then it'll go back to autodetecting everything like it did previously
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18:58<sney>bloodyrum: wait, also make sure to delete the nouveau blacklist from /etc/modprobe.d/
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19:01<bloodyrum>sney: What file in that directory contains the blacklist that I shall remove?
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19:04<bloodyrum>sney: I got it
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19:10<ryan_>Hey guys, I'm wondering where my bash history is stored.
19:10<jmcnaught>ryan_: ~/.bash_history
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19:14<ryan_>jmcnaught: thank you
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19:15<somiaj>that is only after you logout of a bash shell, it is located in the memeory of the shell until then (though might be an option to make it update the file more regulrally) I belive.
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20:08<yufw>with the latest update of network-manager-pptp-gnome, i can't connect to my VPN anymore, how can i troubleshoot this?
20:08<yufw>i'm running testing
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20:10<yufw>network-manager-pptp-gnome had three upgrades in the past few days, of which two simplify don't work on my machine
20:10<yufw>anyone running testing experience the same problem?
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20:10<sney>testing support is in #debian-next
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20:12<yufw>ok, i'll ask for help there
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20:45<akakepo>yo
20:46<akakepo>can help me training use debian server?
20:46<sney>http://debian-handbook.info/
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22:51<K4KFH>I'm having a problem with my Debian-based server randomly freezing up. I think it's due to an SSD, but I'm not sure. What is the best way to go about figuring this out? The server is running Proxmox VE, which is based on Debian Jessie but I think it runs a custom kernel.
22:52<jmcnaught>K4KFH: you'll definitely want to check the journal for the times that it is frozen, however you should probably look for the proxmox channel because even though it's debian based it replaces the kernel, devicemapper, LVM and lots of other stuff that will be related to this
22:52<jmcnaught>!proxmox
22:52<dpkg>Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <OpenVZ> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial ##proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support
22:53<jmcnaught>K4KFH: try the channel mentioned above
22:54<K4KFH>Oh, sorry, thanks for pointing me in the right direction
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23:46<kowski>dpkg apache2
23:46<dpkg>apache2 is actually version 2.2 in Debian 7 "Wheezy" and Debian 6.0 "Squeeze"; this is a virtual package provided by a worker, ask me <apache2 mpm>. Ask me about <install apache>, <apache config>, <apache manual> and <apache backport>; see also <cnrd>, <userdir>, <apache2 ecc>. Additional help in #httpd on irc.freenode.net
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23:46<kowski>dpkg jessie apache2
23:46<dpkg>kowski: no idea
23:47<kowski>dpkg jessie
23:47<dpkg>Jessie is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 8, released on 2015-04-25: http://www.debian.org/News/2015/20150426 . Jessie is the cowgirl in Toy Story 2. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianJessie and ask me about <install jessie> <release notes> <wheezy->jessie>. Currently <8.4>.
23:47<sney>!msg the bot
23:47<dpkg>Please have conversations with the bots in a private message as much as possible. Instead of using "!topic" or "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" in the channel, you can just "/msg dpkg topic". See <bot help> and http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn more and browse my factoids on-line at http://ircbots.debian.net/ . Also ask me about <judd>, which is another bot and window into the Ultimate Debian Database.
23:47<kowski>!msg boot
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23:48<kowski>dpkg arduino
23:48<dpkg>bugger all, i dunno, kowski
23:48<sney>kowski: please message the bot directly rather than spamming the channel
23:48<kowski>oh! ok
23:49<sney>kowski: don't message ME,
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23:49<sney>kowski: do like /msg dpkg apache
23:50<kowski>i will try another irc client
23:50<kowski>polari was not working properly
23:50<kowski>!/msg command is not recognized
23:50<dpkg>okay, kowski
23:50<sney>>_<
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23:53<kowski>sorry
23:53<kowski>my bad
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23:53<FRI3NDS>hello everybody
23:53<sney>hi.
23:54<FRI3NDS>im new in here so nice to meet you
23:54<sney>this part of irc is for people who need help with debian, if you want to learn about irc you can go to http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/new2irc.html . if you would like to chat with people, type /join #moocows
23:55<FRI3NDS>thanks for your information
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