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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-04-15

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01:36<hellion>Wow, I just spent three days running dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda blah blah.. now the installer is writing over three days of chugging away.. how does debian come to generate that random data?
01:37<hellion>Is it comparable to urandom?
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01:41<jm_>/dev/urandom is fast, how could dd spend three days? are we talking of really big disk drives?
01:41<jm_>OK it's not that fast ...
01:42<jm_>I only get 15MB/s so yeah that would explain three days
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02:00<hellion>I was getting 1.5 for some odd reason.
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02:00<hellion>using the term in gparted. odd..
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02:05<hellion>I was trying to source how that data is generated to no avail thus far.
02:05<jm_>it's coming from the kernel
02:07<hellion>ah, i see.
02:10<hellion>I see it in ps as /bin/blockdev-wipe -s 524288 /dev/mapper/crypt0
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02:15<jm_>first hit for that is a bug in launchpad saying it's slow :)
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04:34<mr-cat>well, i have a new debian installation here(amd64[but really intell], and an amd graphics card), and i'd like to install steam on it. my only problem atm is that https://wiki.debian.org/Steam says that i'd need to install the libgl1-fglrx-glx driver, which does not support my graphics card(an old Raedon HD 4890 RV790). I'm currently running it usin
04:34<mr-cat>g the xserver-xorg-video-radeon package, which does support it.
04:35<mr-cat>so i have two questions
04:35<mr-cat>why do i need the 32-bit compatibility in the first place
04:36<mr-cat>and would the xorg driver work just as fine in this case?
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04:41<towo^work>mr-cat, you need the 32bit lebs because of steam is only 32bit
04:42<towo^work>mr-cat, and yes, it should work, if you install libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
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04:44<mr-cat>well, i see that i have it installed for 64-bit. would installing it for 32-bit uninstall the 64-bit package?
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04:57<grove>mr-cat: If you add i386 as an architecture correctly it shouldn't uninstall the amd64 package when installing the i386 one (but I don't know if those libraries are special in that regard)
04:58<mr-cat>i did the installation, and it did everything correctly :) all libraries were installed, and no others were uninstalled. steam did its updates, and now everything works fine
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05:48<TheHawk>I am about to buy a Dell Precision. It wil come with hybrid graphics. Plain hardware performance aside, would I get the ATI Fire Pro or the Nvidia Quattro as second graphics card?
05:49<TheHawk>what will give me less headache?
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06:12<g6>hell-o
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06:27<Krasslig>g6: o/
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06:33<Sicelo>question: when i build a debian package, the resulting debian package also contains the source code. what could i be doing wrong?
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06:48<jordyd>Hello! This is a very important question!
06:48<jordyd>Can anyone tell me how to install cups 2.1.3 via source code without any problems!
06:49<jordyd>please!?
06:49<jm_>no we only support debian packages here
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06:50<jordyd>but cups is for debian, but there is only a to old version available (1.7.5). I must use 2.1.3
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06:51<jm_>testing has that version
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07:11<jordyd>But testing gave a crash of my system and I cannot permit me a unstable system!
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07:15<jm_>then try backporting cups
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07:15<jm_>,check-backport cups
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07:16<zeta>https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation
07:16<judd>Backporting package cups in sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 9.20160114).
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07:35<Rene>hallo
07:35<Rene>ist das hier deutsch?
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08:03<wCPO>What is the default number of Retries for apt-get?
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08:09<jm_>it gives it as zero in examples/configure-index.gz
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08:10<wCPO>I get "W: Failed to fetch http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/jessie-backports/main/binary-amd64/Packages Hash Sum mismatch" a lot, when building with live-build. retries don't seems to affect that.. :(
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08:46<pumpernickel>What is the status of OBS on Debian?
08:47-!-xy [~mog@cpe-72-183-195-67.elp.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: So long, suckers!]
08:47<pumpernickel>I mean, Open Broadcaster Software
08:47<pumpernickel>I had found some email threads indicating packaging was being done.
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08:47<pumpernickel>and a repo on alioth
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08:48<petn-randall>pumpernickel: There should be a "ITP" (intent to package) bug report for that.
08:48<pumpernickel>but as far as I can tell, it never made it into sid
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08:48<pumpernickel>I believe I found one in the past. It was months ago though.
08:48<petn-randall>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=774744
08:48<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/774744 in wnpp (open): «ITP: obs -- Open Broadcast Software»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2015-01-07; last modified: 2016-02-24.
08:48<pumpernickel>and it looked like the packaging work had even been done.
08:49<petn-randall>pumpernickel: It probably needs some time to be in shape for inclusion in Debian.
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08:50<pumpernickel>Yeah, that's the bug I was following
08:50<pumpernickel>https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-multimedia/obs-studio.git/
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08:51<petn-randall>pumpernickel: You could reply to that bug report asking for a follow-up. It's been several weeks since he said he'd upload it.
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09:12<sebd>Hello, on my Jessie servers, Cups sometimes tries to start before Slapd, whereas it needs Slapd to resolv a group name. How do I tell Systemd to wait for slapd, nscd and nslcd before starting cups ? Should I create a new "target" ?
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10:29<smokeysea>Hello all, I want to disable touchpad for laptop lenovo e450 (i3 processor). But xinput doesn't show touchpad in the output http://ix.io/wMG . Do I need to build to some newer kernel? I am on Debian 8.
10:31<sney>smokeysea: if you want to try a newer kernel you can install it from http://backports.debian.org/ rather than building it
10:31<sney>and yes, newer kernels often have device driver improvements
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10:34<smokeysea>sney: thanks; will explore backports
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10:36<louay21n>lou
10:37<louay21n>slt
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10:37<louay21n>yes
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10:43<bao>hello
10:43<sney>hi
10:43<bao>这里有中国人吗
10:43<bao>哈哈
10:43<sney>!zh
10:43<dpkg>如果您想要以中文得到 Debian 相關的協助,請加入 irc.debian.org 或 irc.oftc.net 上的 #dot 頻道,連線與加入頻道的方法請參閱 IRC 程式之相關說明,或於網路上搜尋。謝謝您的合作!
10:44<bao>thanks
10:44<sney>np
10:45<bao>yes
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10:45<guardian>hello, I have a partition mounted as an iscsi target. I unmounted it and now I want to delete the iscsi target and never use iscsi again. Can someone please tell me which command I need to run?
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11:08<smokeysea>upgrading to backport kernel helped. :D
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11:08<smokeysea>thanks
11:08<sney>np
11:08<hssadmin>Hi. does upgrading ngix require a reboot?
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11:09<hssadmin>nginx*
11:10<smokeysea>sney: http://ix.io/wMV
11:10<smokeysea>sney: I was struggling with this for so long
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11:10<smokeysea>thanks a lot
11:10<sney>hssadmin: nope
11:10<sney>!congratulate smokeysea
11:10<dpkg>Woohoo smokeysea, you did it!
11:10<smokeysea>\0/
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11:26<hssadmin>thank you sney
11:26<sney>np
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12:50<anonymous>fuck
12:51<anonymous>HACKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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12:51-!-anonymous was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
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12:52<sney>!ops script kiddie
12:52<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: sney complains about: script kiddie
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12:52<sney>cutto etc
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12:54<anonymou>wqegas
12:54<anonymou>!"£!"£$%&/()=?^?=)(/&%$£"!WQSDCV B
12:54<anonymou>"!"£$%&/()=*éPKçL:HK;JC BMGFVYREDOUYLHJV;KI
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12:56<Maulkin>Oops. That was meant to just be a ban. Oh well.
12:56<sney>good enough
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12:57<pjotter>I's absolutely beautiful. How did he make it?
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13:31<yuwen>Hey everyone
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13:32<yuwen>anyone here have experience getting exam to work with dovecot?
13:32<abrotman>exim?
13:33<yuwen>*exim4
13:33<abrotman>lots of people, ask your real question
13:33<yuwen>I'm currently using exim4 as an smtp relay. On the same server, I'd like to setup dovecot for imap.
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13:34<yuwen>I'm having issues where exim is trying to relay the emails instead of letting dovecot process them
13:37<yuwen>how exactly do I configure exim to still function as an smtp relay only if the sender email address does not match a mailbox in dovecot
13:37<yuwen>?
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13:57<pillo>hello
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15:15<acrnm>how do i find out if exim4 is using single or split file config
15:15<acrnm>?
15:16<dutchfish>acrnm, https://wiki.debian.org/Exim#Split_file
15:17<dutchfish>(on a debian system)
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15:18<acrnm>so if /etc/exim4/conf.d/ exists then I'm using split file?
15:18<acrnm>if it doesn't then it single?
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15:19<dutchfish>acrnm, not exactly, also check /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated | and inside /etc/exim/exim4.conf that will reveal it
15:19<dutchfish>acrnm, read the wiki
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15:21<acrnm>dutchfish, thank you! According to /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated, i'm not running split
15:21<dutchfish>acrnm, yw
15:21<acrnm>in cases like this, where do I create new routers then?
15:22<dutchfish>acrnm, you need a new setup?
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15:23<acrnm>currently i have exim4 running as an smtp relay already. I'm trying to setup map on the same server using dovecot. When I send an email to dovecot inbox, exim4 logs it as unroutable
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15:24<acrnm>dutchfish, currently i have exim4 running as an smtp relay already. I'm trying to setup map on the same server using dovecot. When I send an email to dovecot inbox, exim4 logs it as unroutable
15:24<acrnm>*imap
15:24<acrnm>according to this article: I have to setup a router and transport
15:24<acrnm>http://wiki2.dovecot.org/HowTo/VirtualhostingWithExim
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15:27<dutchfish>acrnm, frankly, for that one i have no idea, i haven't done such a setup in ages, i mostly use postfix. But maybe someone else can fill in
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15:29<acrnm>dutchfish, ok thanks for the help! How exactly does single file config work anyways? seems like you make the changes in the template file?
15:31<dutchfish>acrnm, Each section of the configuration file has its own subdirectory and the files therein are concatenated in alphabetical order. This makes it easier to maintain on a large setup
15:31<dutchfish>acrnm, for a split setup that is
15:31<dutchfish>acrnm, for small setups this can be cumbersome
15:31<acrnm>dutchfish, I've confirmed that I'm using a single file setup already, but I'm not sure where to a new router
15:32<acrnm>*add
15:32<dutchfish>acrnm, unroutable in here means, no route for that mail, not a router
15:33<acrnm>dutchfish, you mean like a dns issue?
15:33<dutchfish>acrnm, you need to setup the MTA to accept mail for the local domain and refuse to route anything else. Otherwise you would have an open mail server! Bad! You can add domains with routes for your needs.
15:34<dutchfish>acrnm, thats what it means
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15:35<acrnm>dutchfish, I'm already whitelisting domains and I've added the domain that is unroutable to allow list already
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15:36<dutchfish>acrnm, and you have proper MX records for that domain pointing to the right server addresses?
15:36<acrnm>dutchfix, correct, there is an mx record pointing to that server
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15:36<dutchfish>acrnm, whats left is then to configure where the endpoint resides (in this case this server)
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15:37<dutchfish>acrnm, its all in th exim4 docs by the way
15:37<dutchfish>the*
15:37<acrnm>dutchfish, is there an article for that? I'm not sure what an endpoint is. Super new to exim4
15:38<dutchfish>acrnm, its old, so bare with me, but most of it is correct
15:38<dutchfish>acrnm, https://www.debian-administration.org/article/140/Handling_mail_for_multiple_virtual_domains_with_exim4
15:39<dutchfish>acrnm, if you hav emore specific quenstions about debian/exim4 ask in here
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15:40<acrnm>dutchfish, thank you!
15:40<dutchfish>acrnm, yw
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16:40<[Nick]>is there any way to make gnome look like a desktop again?
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16:49<KjetilK>I'm getting kernel panics with the bnx2 driver
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16:50<KjetilK>the long story is that I had a box running as router, but I had another box that would be better suited for that role, so today I was going to migrate the disks from one box to the other, things like that have usually been quite smooth
16:50<KjetilK>but the 4-port network card, which is supported by the bnx2 driver is really giving me a tough time...
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16:51<KjetilK>It looks OK until I plug in a network cable, then it starts throwing debug info at me. I've been able to capture some of my dmesg: http://pastebin.com/7S6F2F5G
16:52<sney>[Nick]: that's kind of what cinnamon and mate were going for
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16:52<KjetilK>but after a few seconds, the kernel panics. I haven't been able to capture the panic message itself...
16:52<sney>KjetilK: do you have the firmware-bnx2 package installed?
16:52<KjetilK>sney: yeah
16:52<KjetilK>I've tried the backport one too
16:53<sney>and the backport kernel?
16:53<KjetilK>no, not that one...
16:53<sney>might as well give it a shot, though bnx2 is normally the only reliable broadcom product
16:53<[Nick]>this new one is dreadfull
16:54<KjetilK>so, is it more likely to be in the bnx2 driver or the firmware?
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16:54<sney>KjetilK: since I've been using bnx2 in production for a few debian versions and never seen this particular problem, I'm inclined to suspect a hardware issue
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16:55<sney>[Nick]: yeah, a lot of people didn't like gnome3 when it came out. good thing there are other options for desktop environments
16:55<KjetilK>uhoh
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16:55<KjetilK>its worked flawlessly up to this morning...
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16:56<[Nick]>how easy/hard is it to switch to kde without reinstalling?
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16:57<sney>[Nick]: very easy. 'apt-get install task-kde-desktop' and then log out/reboot
16:57<sney>you don't even need to remove gnome
16:57<KjetilK>I guess it could be upset since I moved it from the box where it grew up :-P
16:57<sney>KjetilK: could try it in a different pci slot too, if there is one available
16:57<[Nick]>kool i'll try
16:57<[Nick]>thanks :)
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16:58<[Nick]>haha 900mb of files... maybe i'll do that when not on mobile data ;)
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16:59<KjetilK>sney: yeah, I did that
16:59<[Nick]>oh no, 343mb to download... hmm, thats not so bad
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17:07<geek>Is anyone there?
17:07<geek>okay.
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17:14<KjetilK>nope, same problem with a new the backport kernel
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17:17<KjetilK>sney: is there any way to tell with greater certainty that there is a hardware problem?
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17:18<sney>put the card back in the old machine and try to make the problem return?
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17:21<KjetilK>yeah, I could do that, I guess, but it is a lot of work unscrewing all the disks and stuff :-/
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17:23<sney>it could be the nic is good and the problem is with your new motherboard.
17:24<KjetilK>yup
17:24<KjetilK>yeah, I guess I have to try...
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18:13<arcnux001>Does anyone know how to fix the laptop battery drain? Mine is draining completely, have tried all settings.
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18:15<arcnux001>Is it possible that linux is bradcasting the info in your laptop while shutdown, or has the mic recording and sending the recordings to some office with nothing better to do?
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18:17<sney>while shutdown? no.
18:17<sney>otherwise, anything is possible, just exceedingly unlikely
18:18<arcnux001>How else can we explain the complete drain of the battery? In these time of total illuminati surveilance nothing surprises
18:19<arcnux001>I have tried all possible settings in mate desktop, nothing helps
18:20<sney>it's more likely that some power management thing is not working properly and your cpu is running at full speed, or similar
18:20<arcnux001>Googling for answers leads to 2012, 2014 posts
18:20<jmcnaught>arcnux001: powertop might help you figure out what is using all the power
18:20<arcnux001>Hmm, could you please point me in the right direction, where and what to look for?
18:21<arcnux001>will try that
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18:22<jmcnaught>arcnux001: my caution with powertop is to not blindly enable all of the "tunables" that it recommends without understanding them.. at the very least don't enable them in your system boot without testing them a bit
18:23<jmcnaught>arcnux001: even simpler than powertop is just regular top, sorted by CPU by pressing "P", maybe you just have a browser going crazy or something
18:23<arcnux001>jmcnaught: Thanks for the advice
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18:25<arcnux001>jmcnaught: the interesting thing is that this happens no matter how many programs I have had running. Some times I have powered the laptop, charged the battery to 100%, nothing else, turned it off, and after a few days is dead
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18:25<sney>phantom drain. hardware problem
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18:26<arcnux001>sney: I had at one time windows here(hard to buy a laptop without OS) and didnt happen
18:26<sney>or just a nearly worn out battery
18:26<arcnux001>sney: almost brand new laptop
18:26<sney>or a factory defect. if it's discharging while off, it's not linux
18:26<jmcnaught>set up a webcam to watch the laptop overnight. it could be gnomes or ghosts.
18:27<arcnux001>the only ghosts would be from the only government branch that always listens
18:28<jmcnaught>it's probably a hardware problem.
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18:28<arcnux001>may be i should buy a new battery
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18:32<arcnux001>powertop gives a whole screen of Bad under Tunab
18:34<jmcnaught>arcnux001: if power is draining even when the machine is off, i'm not sure how much help powertop is going to be
18:35<arcnux001>jmcnaught: do you think then that the most likely cause is a battery problem?
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18:35<jmcnaught>arcnux001: yes, if it happens while the computer is off, it's not a software problem
18:36<arcnux001>jmcnaught: ok, thanks for the advice. I will buy another battery then.
18:36<blast007>arcnux001: if it's a removable battery, charge to 100%, remove the battery, and let it sit for a while (perhaps a few days like you had mentioned) and see if it drains then as well
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18:37<jmcnaught>arcnux001: i agree with blast007, new battery could be a waste of money
18:37<arcnux001>blast007: that is a good idea, best way of testing it
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18:39<blast007>you can also check the wear on the battery by comparing the design capacity with the full charge capacity: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-laptop-battery-status-temperature/ (I usually go straight to just doing 'cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_full_design' and 'cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_full' and comparing the two)
18:40<arcnux001>blast007: thanks, I will try that as soon as it is at 100% level
18:43<blast007>I *think* you can do that without it being at 100%, as I believe the 'charge_full' will refer to the last full charge capacity that the battery has stored in its firmware
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18:45<blast007>but yeah, worst case, charge it up to 100% and then also look at the 'charge_now' value
18:45<arcnux001>blast007: it is telling me No such file or directory
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18:47<arcnux001>blast007: I have BAT1
18:47<blast007>ah, okay
18:47<arcnux001>blast007: I have BAT1, will try that
18:47<blast007>might be a system that can accept multiple batteries then (like how some ThinkPads can have a second 'slice' battery attached to the bottom docking port)
18:48<arcnux001>Both tell me 2546000, it is an HP AMD A8
18:50<blast007>both as in charge_full and charge_full_design?
18:50<arcnux001>yes
18:50<blast007>k, wait for 100% and see if charge_now also reflects that value
18:51<arcnux001>besides BAT1 there is ACAD under power_supply
18:51<arcnux001>but as afar as i know i have only one battery slot
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18:52<blast007>well, it is HP, so there's probably just being "creative" with their design :)
18:52<arcnux001>he he
18:54<grummund>Hi, When apt-get upgrade says "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: ... Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them."
18:54<grummund>does it means the packages are *currently* not required, or *will* not be required after the upgrade?
18:55<sney>currently
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18:57<grummund>then that is odd, because running apt-get autoremove suggests nothing to remove
18:57<grummund>perhaps i need apt-get dist-upgrade?
18:57<arcnux001>blast007: suppose all charge* show the same vlaue after it is fully charged, then, the next step would be removing the battery, right?
18:58<blast007>arcnux001: yup
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18:59<arcnux001>blast007: and if it doesn't drain then I will need your advice
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19:00<grummund>paste.debian.net/433016/
19:00<blast007>If it still drains, then it's probably a defect in the battery. If it doesn't drain, then it's something odd with the laptop (perhaps some power management option, perhaps an actual defect like a short, or just some bad design).
19:00<arcnux001>blast007: but that will happen in a few days, week I would say, I hope I will find you here again, or some knowledgable twin
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19:02<blast007>is the system still under warranty?
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19:03<arcnux001>what power management options should I look for? I bouth it is SAMS about a year ago, but have barely used it, since the laptop keyboard is not friendly with me, as you can see, so I mostly use a desktop
19:03<arcnux001>in SAMS, out of warranty by now
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19:05<blast007>I'm not sure.
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19:07<blast007>Typically laptops are supposed to not draw much power when AC isn't attached (for instance, stuff like wake-on-LAN generally only works when on AC power, since they turn off the NIC otherwise)
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19:08<arcnux001>Well, in the worst case I will just plug the power cord to the wall. Cheaper than anything else.
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19:14<grummund>any ideas why autoremoveis not working? - http://paste.debian.net/433016/
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19:52<Bragard>Bonsoir
19:53<Bragard>Hello debhelper
19:54<sney>Bragard: do you have a debian question
19:54<Bragard>Yes
19:54<sney>then ask, with details
19:55<Bragard>I've tried to install zsh but doen't works
19:55<Bragard>but now when I type su
19:55<sney>what debian version and what did you do exactly
19:55<Bragard>and wordpass
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19:55<Bragard>Jessie
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19:56<Bragard>but now when I type password for su
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19:57<Bragard>I ger error message: Impossible to execue zsh : no such folder
19:58<sney>Bragard: what is the output of: echo $SHELL
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19:59<Bragard>/bin/bash
20:00<sney>did you change the shell to zsh for any of your users, with chsh or in /etc/passwd?
20:02<Bragard>when I've tried to do it was impossible because when I type password I get chsh: PAM : authenticate failed
20:02<sney>please remember, I can't see your screen. so if you skip telling me what you are doing, I can only make guesses
20:02<sney>I have no idea what document you followed to install zsh and what you did to break your system
20:02<sney>if you share what you did, then it will be easier to help.
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20:03<Bragard>OK sney
20:03<Bragard>thank you for helping
20:04<Bragard>I will give you more details
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20:10<Bragard>sney, Now when I type zsh I get a config file "This is the Z Shell configuration function for new users,
20:10<Bragard>zsh-newuser-install.
20:10<Bragard>"
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22:31<CooloutAC>hello all
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23:10<CooloutAC>oh fuck this i think i need to go use fedora
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