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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-04-19

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02:16<xyzone>how can I get gtk applications running as root to use the user gtk theme? I lost that behavior when I upgraded to testing.
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02:19<musca>xyzone: see topic: testing/unstable --> #debian-next
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02:28<twb>Shouldn't be running GUI stuff as root anyways :/
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02:38<musca>Root's theme should burn in his eyes :)
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02:46<twb>Raleigh will. Not sure what version of Windows or OS X the GTK3 theme is supposed to be stolen from
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02:59<nithilin>anyone have instructions or a link to instructions on how to install nvidia driver on Kali Linux 2.0 I have tried a lot of them but I could
03:00<Nemoder>!kali
03:00<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
03:00<nithilin>thx
03:01<twb>Do you need a lot of 3d acceleration to run nmap and wireshark?
03:03<musca>well, nouveau has no powermanagement, only the nvidia blob calms down the fan.
03:03<twb>ouch
03:03<musca>yes.
03:06<nithilin>jop i need 3d acceleration
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04:32<twb>sney: haha, in upstream kmod, it's a warning for moddep file to not exist -- debian patches it into an error
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04:55<twb>sney: I tried running depmod but of course /lib/modules doesn't exist either
04:55<twb>To see if I can work out WHICH udev rule is causing it, I tried this:
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04:55<twb>find /lib/udev/rules.d/ -name '*.rules' -exec sed -si 's|RUN{builtin}+="kmod|RUN+="/usr/bin/logger -t kmod|' {} +
04:56<twb>That's building away now
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05:36<scootergrisen>How can i enable/disable the Wi-Fi connection from the console?
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05:36<jm_>how did you configure it?
05:37<scootergrisen>I dont know what you mean
05:37<jm_>which method to configure wifi are you using?
05:37<scootergrisen>Normally i use the window manager GNOME settings to click on/off
05:37<jm_>so probably NM
05:38<scootergrisen>The command that says "nm - list symbols from object files" in the manual?
05:39<jm_>try nmcli
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05:41<scootergrisen>Seems "nmcli radio wifi off" might do it.
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05:42<scootergrisen>If automatic DNS is set to ON should i not be able to visit IP addressen in a webbrowser?
05:42<scootergrisen>I mean off
05:43<scootergrisen>If it is set to OFF should i not be able to visit the router IP?
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05:44<scootergrisen>Its because i want to use the internet connection with a custom DNS, but each time i have to turn the internet connection on i have to visit a specific address in the webbrowser and login... but i can only visit that page if DNS is set to automatic
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06:49<scootergrisen>Do anyone know some programs to check a website for broken links?
06:49<scootergrisen>Like for Windows there is Xenu's Link Sleuth
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06:50<gonzalo_>hi!! Can journalctl discard a message??
06:52<jm_>scootergrisen: no, not anyone, but people who know hot to use apt-cache search will find several such tools
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06:54<scootergrisen>yeah but would be nice to know the good onces so i dont have to test alot
06:58<scootergrisen>Would like one that have a GUI
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07:33<SyperPyper>Hi
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08:25<gonzalo_>hi, can journal (systemd) discard a message??
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08:36<wCPO_irssi>Does Debian allow packages which is only avalible for only arch (AMD64)?
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08:37<musca>wCPO_irssi: yes
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08:38<wCPO_irssi>musca: Thanks, I was wonderig if pepperflashplugin-nonfree was nuked for food, as google has dropped 32 bit support :)
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08:43<musca>wCPO_irssi: e.g. retty is only available on i386 https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=retty
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08:57<pax>Hello. I am running debian Jessie and I want to install a more recent version of cmake.
08:58<pax>I have added "deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main non-free" to /etc/apt/sources.list
08:58<jrtc27>https://packages.debian.org/jessie/cmake nobody's backported it (note the lack of jessie-backports) at the top
08:58<jrtc27>,checkbackport cmake
08:58<judd>Backporting package cmake in sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 9.20160114~).
08:59<jrtc27>^ can easily be fixed by reverting https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-cmake/cmake.git/commit/?id=d60a38d65a23767caddc40fa2171317da0ecbc80
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09:01<pax>Ok. Thanks. I was looking at the wrong backports (wheezy).
09:01<themill>pax: you have to make your own
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09:04<pax>themill: I'm not at all comfortable with that. I'll try to get the newest version from the cmake website.
09:04<jrtc27>ew
09:04<themill>personally, I'd be even less comfortable with doing that
09:04<jrtc27>no
09:05<jrtc27>!DontBreakDebian
09:05<dpkg>methinks dont break debian is https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
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09:06<pax>I'm running in a root jail, so the risk is not too high, but I'll give it a read.
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09:24<R4F_Debian>Hi all
09:26<R4F_Debian>I would like to know which file systems available for Debian Jessie should be more adequate for using in Data Storage Server modalities
09:26<R4F_Debian>I'm in doubt between XFS, EXT4 and BTRFS
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09:29<musca>!start a filesystem war
09:29<dpkg>Who needs a file system? Use orthogonal persistency!
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09:33<R4F_Debian>Hi musca. No musca, my intention is to have any idea about which is more suitable for some specific task (in the case, as mentioned above). Or if there is no significant difference between them, so the server performance remains unchanged
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09:43<pax>jrtc27, judd, themill: my computer is now compiling cmake in the process of making a .deb file. Thanks for the good advise!
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09:43<jrtc27>:) post if you run into any issues
09:44<jrtc27>(fyi, judd is a bot...)
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09:45<judd>jrtc27: kiss my shiny metal ass
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09:45<jrtc27>o.O
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09:46<stripe>lol
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09:47<jrtc27>,bot
09:47<judd>No, I'm not a bot, I'm a frontend to a database.
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09:49<teatime>hrm... is there some way I could have something equivalent to MANPATH, except that wouldn't override/hide default system dirs. Some command that reliably parses the system man config into an equivalent MANPATH would be acceptable.
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09:49<teatime>(I want to add some extra manpages from my homedir, on a bunch of different systems that may not /all/ be Debian.)
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09:50<jrtc27>MANPATH="/foo:$(manpath)"?
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09:50<teatime>heh, didn't realize that command exists... let's see if it's suitable.
09:51<teatime>seems like.
09:51<jrtc27>you probably want -q
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09:51<jrtc27>otherwise if MANPATH is already set, it'll give a warning (but just echo $MANPATH)
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09:51<bipul> How to use debian installer source code into minimal image?
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09:53<blast007>R4F_Debian: You haven't really given enough details for anymore to make a recommendation. If you don't have any special requirements, then ext4 is gonna be just fine.
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10:03<R4F_Debian>Hi blast007, sorry for late response here, I was busy and absent. And thanks for clear information !
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10:16<R4F_Debian>Bye akk
10:16<R4F_Debian>Bye all !
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10:35<pax>jrtc27: some tests failed during compilation of cmake. I see some complaints about /proc/cpuinfo and /proc/meminfo missing, probably because I compile in a root jail.
10:35<jrtc27>yeah that would cause that
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10:36<jrtc27>is the host also debian?
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10:36<pax>Yes, but a 32 bit.
10:37<pax>the root jail is 64 bit.
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10:38<jrtc27>just mount a procfs in the chroot?
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10:38<jrtc27>if it were me, I'd be using cowbuilder to manage the chroot, but that isn't necessary, and you already have a working chroot
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10:41<pax>jrtc27: i'll try with mounting a procfs.
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10:42<hdi>Hi... I'm on Debian Backports kernel, since 4.4 my laptop has become unstable (freezes + sometimes refuses to charge).
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10:43<hdi>How can I change kernel to say 4.3 ... or a later one ? is there a page for this, or a repository?
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10:44<hdi>or a way to lookup these exact issues i am having and see if others have a workaround? I found nothing here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=linux-image-4.4.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
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10:45<hdi>My laptop is a Dell XPS, with Intel chipset. I'm guessing the issues must be faced by other machines as well
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10:50<blast007>hdi: neither of those are specific. Which XPS? Which Intel chipset?
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10:51<zeta>hdi: maybe somebody reported to a different version of the 4.4 kernel instead. check https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=linux (warning: long load).
10:52<hdi>Dell XPS 13 L322X. I'm not sure which of the chipset's to check
10:53<hdi>zeta: thanks looking
10:54<blast007>hdi: looks to be the Intel QS77 chipset, with a third generation i5 or i7
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10:57<hdi>blast007, Yes it's an i7 processor. The chipset I can do an exact check using lspci or something similar if it's helpful
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10:58<hdi>Also, these issues occur mostly after coming out of sleep/suspend. On first boot usually everything is well
10:58<somiaj>hdi: any reason the stock 3.16 kernel that comes with jessie will not work for your system. On my laptop I use the stock over the backports one because of similar issues that you just mentioned (it wasn't as stable on the backported kernel)
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10:59<hdi>somiaj, the stock kernel handled full disk encryption painfully slowly on my laptop. a few months ago, based on discussions with people here, I switch to the backports kernel. I was very happy with it and had no issues until around a week ago or so when it upgraded to 4.4
11:00<jrtc27>you should still have the old kernel?
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11:01<somiaj>hdi: backport kernels aren't nearly as well tested, so things can pop in. You should still have the old kernel, and yes there are reasons the stock 3.16 kernel doesn't work, but some just upgrade the the backports kernel when the stock one will work just fine for their needs.
11:02<hdi>somaij, right.. i am willing to test the old one again. could you remind of the command to switch back?
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11:02<jrtc27>should be in grub under advanced
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11:02<somiaj>if you haven't uninstalled the old kernel packages you can just boot up old kernels with no problem
11:02<somiaj>if you uninstalled the old kernel packges, just reinstall them first
11:02<hdi>should I do a forced " sudo apt-get install linux-image-amd64=3.16+63" ?
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11:03<somiaj>hdi: linux-image-amd64 is just a metapackage, it dosen't contain a kernel. It just pulls in the most current kernel from backports (if you installed the backports version)
11:03<jrtc27>you shouldn't have to
11:03<hdi>jrtc27: grub, or apt
11:03<somiaj>hdi: the actual kernel names are linux-image-<version>
11:03<somiaj>hdi: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
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11:04<somiaj>if you do not hvae the kernel installed, then you'll need to isntall it, apt-get install linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64
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11:04<jrtc27>or you can get 4.3 from http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux/4.3.5-1%7Ebpo8%2B1/#linux-image-4.3.0-0.bpo.1-amd64_4.3.5-1:7e:bpo8:2b:1 (or search for a different backported version)
11:04<hdi>somaij: that command show 4.3 and 4.4. I've apparently uninstalled the 3.16 before.
11:04<jrtc27>so you should be able to boot into 4.3
11:05<hdi>jtrc27: ok thanks I will test grub....
11:05<jrtc27>reboot, and at the grub boot menu, select Advanced options, then select the 4.3 kernel
11:05<hdi>somiaj: and if that fails, resinstalling 3.16, and testing that... but I had problems with 3.16 and that's why I upgraded in the first place :)
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11:21<hdi>jrtc27, ok i'm in 4.3. do i have to manually repeat this process everytime?
11:22<hdi>and now my virtualbox drivers aren't installed
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11:31<luigi>hello
11:32<luigi>some one can help me with firmware no-free?
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11:33<vortek>what ya need?
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11:33<vortek>i had to use non-free firmware myself
11:33<luigi>vortek: i cant use the wifi connect for a long time
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11:34<vortek>explain please?
11:34<blast007>luigi: what wifi do you have? find the line in the output of 'lspci -nn' that shows your wifi and paste that line here
11:34<luigi>and when i start the lap top i see on screen kernel error 5600 readeon firmware no-free
11:35<luigi>i guess i need to install some firmware no free
11:35<luigi>but i need to know wich
11:35<luigi>to find they
11:35<luigi>*those
11:35<blast007>luigi: please read my message and do what I've asked and then we can assist
11:36<luigi>oh sorry
11:36<luigi>thats ok blast i will do it right now!
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11:38<luigi>00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT DRAM Controller [8086:0a04] (rev 09)
11:38<luigi>00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0a16] (rev 09)
11:38<luigi>00:03.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller [8086:0a0c] (rev 09)
11:38<luigi>00:14.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 8 Series USB xHCI HC [8086:9c31] (rev 04)
11:38<luigi>00:16.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation 8 Series HECI #0 [8086:9c3a] (rev 04)
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11:39<scootergrisen>I want to run shockwave in webbrowser and i have installed browser-plugin-gnash
11:39<scootergrisen>Should it work when i restart iceweasel? or should i have to reboot for shockwave to be loaded in the browser?
11:39<blast007>scootergrisen: shockwave, or flash? shockwave is different.
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11:40<blast007>(well, Shockwave Player is different than Shockwave Flash Player, specifically)
11:41<scootergrisen>I need shockwave plugin in iceweasel
11:42<blast007>do you have an example of what you're trying to play?
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11:43<scootergrisen>a game that uses shockwave
11:44<scootergrisen>http://www.y8.com/games/Scooter_Ace
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11:45<rootwineyard>hello
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11:45<rootwineyard>some one can help me with firmeware of my wifi card?
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11:47<rootwineyard>01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 10)
11:47<rootwineyard> this my model
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11:48<victoria>i installed debian 8.4 on my laptop. the debian cannot browse my windows share, can anybody help me?
11:49<sney>rootwineyard: that should just be the 'firmware-realtek' package, is it particularly new?
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11:50<rootwine>paste.debian.net/439540
11:50<rootwine>this the complete list
11:50<rootwineyard>blast007 are y there?
11:51<rootwineyard>d y hv any idea?
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11:52<blast007>!RTL8723BE
11:52<dpkg>Realtek RTL8723BE-based PCIe wireless LAN devices (PCI ID 10ec:b723) are supported by the rtl8723be Linux kernel driver introduced at Linux 3.15 (enabled in Debian Linux kernel images at linux 3.16-1~exp1). Firmware from userspace is required (rtlwifi/rtl8723fw.bin, rtlwifi/rtl8723fw_B.bin) and packaged since firmware-realtek 0.39. Not to be confused with <rtl8723ae> devices.
11:52<blast007>so install firmware-realtek
11:52<sney>see, firmware-realtek like I said. :P
11:53<blast007>and for your Radeon, you'd probably need firmware-linux-nonfree
11:54<rootwineyard>ok
11:55<rootwineyard>when i can find it? package manager?
11:55<blast007>you'll need to enable the non-free repos to find those packages
11:56<rootwineyard>how i can do it?
11:56<blast007>!non-free sources
11:56<dpkg>Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «aptitude update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>.
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12:02<rootwineyard>thats interesting
12:02<rootwineyard>thank you blast and dpkg
12:02<rootwineyard>i check it now
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12:07<rootwineyard>dpkg: sources.list isn't a directory
12:07<dpkg>rootwineyard: wish i knew
12:08<rootwineyard>i have sources.list.d
12:08<rootwineyard>i guess is the same
12:08<blast007>it's a file
12:08<blast007>and dpkg here is just a bot, not a real person
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12:09<rootwineyard>but if i write ls command i dont see nothing
12:09<musca>rootwineyard: you can add a *.list file under sources.list.d/
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12:09<rootwineyard>oh ok blast
12:09<rootwineyard>im noob sorry me
12:10<musca>rootwineyard: it's ok
12:10<scootergrisen>Iceweasel complains that plugin "Shockwave Flash" is outdated. Its Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
12:10<scootergrisen>Anything i can do to update it on Jessie?
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12:11<blast007>scootergrisen: do note that the website you linked doesn't use Shockwave Flash Player, it uses Shockwave Player, so it won't work there
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12:12<blast007>scootergrisen: and 11.2 is the newest version that Adobe has for linux (as in, they stopped supporting linux directly)
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12:13<scootergrisen>great, be right back
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12:13<scootergrisen>So what do i need to install to get Shockwave plugin?
12:14<blast007>you can't
12:14<scootergrisen>Why not?
12:14<scootergrisen>What is the Shockwave Flash plugin for if not for shockwave?
12:14<sney>shockwave, wow
12:14<scootergrisen>Yeah its the new shit
12:15<sney>ha. surely.
12:15<blast007>scootergrisen: like I've said, Shockwave Flash is different than just "Shockwave"
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12:15<sney>a million years ago (internet time), flash was a sub-brand of shockwave.
12:15<scootergrisen>yeah yeah but so how can i play the game on linux?
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12:15<sney>there is no technical relationship, afaik. and if flash is kinda unsupported, shockwave is super unsupported
12:16<scootergrisen>http://www.y8.com/games/Scooter_Ace
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12:16<scootergrisen>:( no scooter ace for me
12:17<blast007>scootergrisen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Shockwave "As of 2008, Adobe Flash and Adobe AIR are preferred (incompatible) alternatives to Shockwave"
12:17<sney>install windows xp in a vm, play shockwave games in ie 6, get viruses
12:18<mtn>scootergrisen: using chromium and pepperflash, you can have a new version of flash
12:18<blast007>still won't help for his user case
12:18<blast007>use*
12:18<blast007>he is wanting shockwave, not flash
12:19<rootwineyard>balst how i can update my linux to 3.15 version
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12:24<musca>,v linux-image-amd64 --release jessie
12:24<judd>Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- jessie: 3.16+63
12:25<musca>rootwineyard: jessie has 3.16 plus extra debian magic
12:26<rootwineyard>ok
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12:29<rootwineyard>my debian is on the last version
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12:30<rootwineyard>i saw the messenger like this: 0 upload 0installed 0 to remove 83 need to be upload
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12:33<ladoga>hi. I'm having problems with debian testing is this the right channel?
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12:33<blast007>ladoga: #debian-next for testing/unstable support
12:33<ladoga>thanks
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12:40<blast007>rootwineyard: by "last version" do you mean the previous version, or the latest version? The current stable is Jessie, and that has a 3.16 kernel. The previous stable was Wheezy, and that probably had a 3.2 kernel.
12:40<ladoga>i'll ask here in case someone knows (it's little bit quiet at debian-next). After dist-upgrading to testing i can't log in to X anymore
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12:41<rootwineyard>blast i mean latest version jessie 3.16
12:42<blast007>rootwineyard: so you're on Wheezy currently?
12:46<rootwineyard>no jessie
12:46<rootwineyard>im on jessie
12:47<blast007>I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish then
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12:51<rootwineyard>i need to install the packege for firmware non-free
12:52<blast007>have you edited the sources.list file yet?
12:52<rootwineyard>and also to use flash player
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12:52<rootwineyard>yep i did
12:53<blast007>did you run 'apt-get update' afterwards?
12:53<rootwineyard>no
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12:54<rootwineyard>thats all?
12:55<blast007>do that, and then try to install firmware-linux-nonfree and firmware-realtek
12:56<rootwineyard># apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree
12:56<rootwineyard>its a right command?
12:56<blast007>you could include both packages in a single command, but yeah
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12:58<comtn>Anyone messing around with Debian and Google devices? Chrome books, dongles, iOV
12:59<rootwineyard>the realtek is on the latest version
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12:59<blast007>!anyone
12:59<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
12:59<rootwineyard>and the # firmware-linux-nonfree dont exist
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13:00<comtn>Hmmm. 404. Man Debian is really loving the Google devices I've installed it on.
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13:00<sney>comtn: if you have support questions you can ask them here, but if you just want to chat about projects you're working on then #debian-offtopic is the place for that
13:01<comtn>no its' not
13:01<comtn>sir.
13:01<comtn>cuz i trollololol
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13:02<blast007>rootwineyard: post the contents of your sources.list on https://paste.debian.net
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13:03<vagrantc>anyone familiar with configuring the watchdog package?
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13:04<vagrantc>i've got some machines with rootfs on usb, and occasionally usb flakes out and then it can't read the filesystem, but still responds to pings and is able to write to /dev/watchdog ... but i'd really like to reboot it at that point
13:06<blast007>vagrantc: you've read through the watchdog and watchdog.conf man pages?
13:07<vagrantc>blast007: sure have, and configuring file to check for a file just logs tons of "file not found messages"
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13:08<blast007>fun
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13:18<nicolas>hi
13:18<sney>hi
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13:19<nicolas>could someone can help me to explain me how create an internet page to share quickly some fotos/docs
13:19<nicolas>no blog no dropbox
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13:20<nicolas>i just want to give an intenet page link and that shows my fotos
13:20<sney>set up a httpd and php and use some php gallery script
13:21<nicolas>to hard for me 'm a tourist in informatic ;-)
13:21<nicolas>have yu an exemple may be ?
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13:22<vagrantc>nicolas: might be able to use pagekite
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13:22<nicolas>ok m gonna check that
13:22<nicolas>pagekite
13:22<nicolas>thank yu
13:23<vagrantc>still would require a lot of setup
13:23<petn-randall>nicolas: Maybe you want to use a proper service like flickr or so.
13:23<nicolas>flickr ok. thank yu very much for your help. I go to check it.
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13:37<PaulePanter>Hi. Any idea why log file rotation (everything default) might not work?
13:38<PaulePanter>-rw-r----- 1 root root 0 Apr 8 06:25 /var/log/auth.log
13:38<PaulePanter>-rw-r----- 1 root root 21987193 Apr 19 19:35 /var/log/auth.log.1
13:38<PaulePanter>So it keeps logging to /var/log/auth.log.1 where it should write to /var/log/auth.log.
13:38<petn-randall>PaulePanter: Looks like your syslog doesn't get the signal to close and re-open the file descriptors.
13:38<petn-randall>PaulePanter: Which syslog are you using?
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13:39<PaulePanter>petn-randall: rsyslog
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13:39<PaulePanter>It could be that I restarted during that time?
13:39<PaulePanter>-rw-r----- 1 root root 0 Apr 8 06:25 /var/log/auth.log
13:39<PaulePanter>-rw-r----- 1 root root 21987193 Apr 19 19:35 /var/log/auth.log.1
13:39<PaulePanter>-rw-r----- 1 root root 2677860 Apr 8 00:30 /var/log/auth.log.2.gz
13:39-!-PaulePanter was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
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13:40<PaulePanter>reboot system boot 3.16.0-4-amd64 Fri Apr 8 00:32 - 19:40 (11+19:07)
13:40<PaulePanter>(Sorry for spamming.)
13:40<petn-randall>PaulePanter: Please pay attention to the /topic.
13:41<PaulePanter>petn-randall: I will.
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13:43<petn-randall>PaulePanter: Which distro release are you running?
13:44<PaulePanter>Debian 8.4 (jessie/stable)
13:44<PaulePanter>rsyslog 8.4.2-1+deb8u2, logrotate 3.8.7-1+b1
13:44<petn-randall>PaulePanter: With systemd? If yes, you can check the rsyslog logs with 'journalctrl -u rsyslog'.
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13:45<PaulePanter>Yes, with systemd.
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13:46<PaulePanter>http://paste.debian.net/439563/ is the rsyslog’s logrotate configuration.
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13:46<PaulePanter>(This should be the default.)
13:46<PaulePanter>*shipped one
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13:47<PaulePanter>Nothing in there.
13:47<PaulePanter>$ sudo journalctl -a -u rsyslog.service
13:47<PaulePanter>-- Logs begin at Fr 2016-04-08 00:32:49 CEST, end at Di 2016-04-19 19:47:31 CEST. --
13:47<PaulePanter>Nothing else.
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13:48<PaulePanter>So, I’ll just restart rsyslog?
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13:48<petn-randall>PaulePanter: Yes, but then we won't find out what caused it.
13:49<PaulePanter>petn-randall: Ok, I’ll wait.
13:49<petn-randall>PaulePanter: If it's just a one-off thing that happened, I'd just restart it and not worry about it.
13:49<petn-randall>PaulePanter: Try restarting it with 'systemctl restart rsyslog'
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13:50<PaulePanter>petn-randall: Yes, now it is writing to `/var/log/auth.log`.
13:51<PaulePanter>Thank you for your help.
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13:51<PaulePanter>Problem was, that Fail2Ban uses that file, so I was worried seeing that Fail2Ban stopped working.
13:52<petn-randall>I see.
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14:08<petn-randall>PaulePanter: I would check in the log files if logrotate threw an error somewhere in the process.
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14:55<PaulePanter>petn-randall: Unfortunately, search for *logrotate* in `sudo journalctl -a` does not give any results.
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15:35<coster>anybody know where I can find what drivers I need before installing debian? I might need a driver for my network card, so I can't download them later
15:35<wCPO_irssi>coster: Often you just need the correct firmware..
15:36<wCPO_irssi>Try to boot a live cd, and check if internet work.. If it does not, check dmesg
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15:36<coster>If it works on the live cd, it will work with the installation?
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15:37<coster>I plan to use only the first non-optional dvd out of the many on the website
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15:38<blast007>!firmware images
15:38<dpkg>Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>.
15:38<blast007>coster: ^
15:39<blast007>that should take care of most instances of needing firmware, though note that some firmware can't be included due to very restrictive license terms
15:40<coster>ok thank you
15:40<blast007>(that is a netinstall ISO, so it will download whatever other packages you need from the Internet during the install)
15:41<coster>is this something I use after installing debian or during the installation?
15:42<blast007>the netinstall is the installer
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15:43<blast007>it's just that the netinstall ISO only contains the base system components (the minimal console components), so it needs to go to the Internet for anything else
15:44<coster>what if I need firmware/driver to go online
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15:45<coster>anyway, I'll try with a live install first
15:45<coster>live cd*
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15:46<blast007>... well, that won't work ....
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15:57<HelpPLS>Hello there. I have a question that might seem ironic. I'm making a simple debian install on an older laptop for m< grandmother. She basically needs a browser machine and debian is ideal for that.
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15:57<HelpPLS>There is one issue though: I need iceweasel to be called firefox and have the firefox icon because that is what she used to.
15:58<blast007>follow the instructions on: http://mozilla.debian.net/
15:58<HelpPLS>What settings do I have to change?
15:58<HelpPLS>thanks blast007
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15:59<HelpPLS>My god I love this channel. I'm a professional carpenter but I wish I could contribute to debian.
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16:02<HelpPLS>Another question: is there any support for touchscreen monitors yet? It
16:02<ryouma>you can contribute
16:02<HelpPLS>It is some sketchy Asus EeePC
16:03<HelpPLS>ryouma: how?
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16:03<ryouma>file bug repors. fix documentation. talk about your learning experience. teach newcomers. try ruggedized boxes and make sure all packages work.
16:03<ryouma>HelpPLS:
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16:04<blast007>HelpPLS: here's some ways: https://www.debian.org/intro/help
16:04<ryouma>HelpPLS: or even learn a little python or bash or emacs lisp or something
16:04<ryouma>just a little to start
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16:05<patrask>are there any mirrors that's still shipping squeeze packages?
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16:07<babilen>patrask: https://www.debian.org/distrib/archive
16:08<patrask>babilen: ah, thank you! :)
16:08<babilen>Still: Please upgrade ;)
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16:09<patrask>just using it to build gdb statically for mips to run on my qemulated d-link firmware
16:10<patrask>my wheezy build failed, kernel too new and all that
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17:10<steev>is there a channel for the chromium team like there is for the mozilla team?
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17:27<rosemarie>Installed debian stable on a AsusEee PC. The fact that everything works like a charm out of the box proves again that debian is the best choice of OS for most casual usuages.
17:27<petn-randall>steev: I've never heard about a chromium team, so I'm assuming not.
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17:28<petn-randall>rosemarie: Not only casual! Many people use it on their servers, too.
17:28<steev>petn-randall: ah, well i'd assume it's the people behind https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-chromium/pkg-chromium.git
17:28<rosemarie>But there is one issue: I cannot close windows by using the touchscreen monitor input. Anyone might show me a path to fix it? Asus Eee 10inch, Debian 8, XFCE
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17:31<petn-randall>rosemarie: Do you mean touchpad? As far as I know, no eee pc comes with a touchscreen.
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17:34<cryptocat>rosemarie: does the touchscreen work at all ? if so maybe try the x11-touchscreen-calibrator or xinput-calibrator packages
17:35<rosemarie>peter1138, this one does Asus eeePC T101MT
17:37<rosemarie>cryptocat indeed it does work in any other context (no right click but w/e), but it does not work with the window frames apparently
17:37<rosemarie>I cannot minimize, maximize or resize windows
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17:39<petn-randall>rosemarie: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC might be of use, but that model isn't listed there. :/
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17:41<rosemarie>quick stupid question: how to look up the model via command line?
17:41<rosemarie>well guys thanks for your effort
17:41<rosemarie>Ill fix it tomorrow
17:42<rosemarie>good night
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17:42<petn-randall>rosemarie: You can probably show it via 'dmidecode'.
17:42<petn-randall>gah
17:42<seeS>hehe
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19:08<_44trent3>quick question: how do I check to make sure that I installed fglrx properly?
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19:13<blast007>_44trent3: well, if you're on Jessie, you could make sure that Gnome3 fails to run now :) but, real advice now, you could check the output of glxinfo, and the xorg log file
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19:26<_44trent3>what do I look for in output for glxinfo?
19:27<_44trent3>to make sure the driver is installed properly
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19:43<Brigo>_44trent3, glxinfo | direct rendering: Yes
19:43<Brigo>_44trent3, sorry: glxinfo | grep "direct rendering: Yes"
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19:51<_44trent3>thanks, it says yes for direct rendering
19:54<blast007>there should also be a renderer string
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21:37<Jessie>Hey
21:37<sney>hi
21:39<Jessie>I am a little girl I am 8 years old
21:40<storge>no you aren't
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21:41<storge>you're 8 years young!
21:41<storge>soon you'll be compiling kernels
21:41<storge>and then the sky is the limit
21:42<storge>so work hard and stay in school ;)
21:44<Jessie>Are you a boy or a girl
21:44<storge>i'm an old man
21:45<Jessie>Are you sure
21:45<storge>if you're into linux at age 8, welcome to debian! best one to learn with. huge software repository. you can do almost anything with it.
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21:47<Jessie>It's my dad who is in to linux
21:48<storge>cool dad
21:49<Jessie>It's my dad who's into Linux
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21:49<Jessie>Thanks
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21:50<Jessie>He's 42
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21:53<jmcnaught>Hey Jessie, did you know that Debian has a collection of software for young people? You can browse it by category on this website: http://blends.debian.org/junior/tasks/
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21:55<Jessie>Hi again
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21:56<storge>hi
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21:56<storge>i rebooted into a new kernel
21:57<Jessie>I don't know what that means
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21:58<Jessie>What do you do for your living
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21:58<storge>solar power
21:58<Jessie>Cool
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22:01<Jessie>I have to go by!
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23:41<anonymous>k ay
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