--- | Log | opened Mon May 02 00:00:04 2016 |
--- | Day | changed Mon May 02 2016 |
00:00 | <twb> | https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html has a whole checklist |
00:00 | <dc2ac> | still same problem |
00:00 | <dc2ac> | dpkg: error processing package gedit (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured |
00:00 | <dpkg> | dc2ac: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
00:00 | <mdlpe> | hi, somebody use Photoflow on Jessie ? |
00:00 | <jmcnaught> | dc2ac: i don't know what dependency problems you're having, but you really should read the release notes completely first, and then follow them as you're doing the upgrade |
00:00 | <twb> | !anybody |
00:00 | <dpkg> | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
00:01 | <dc2ac> | im having this problem https://paste.debian.net/647633/ |
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00:02 | <dc2ac> | i bascially cant install anything because it will always be this error |
00:03 | <jmcnaught> | dc2ac: so you're not trying to upgrade, you're just trying to install something? |
00:03 | <dc2ac> | yes |
00:04 | <twb> | Oh, sorry, I misunderstood |
00:04 | <dc2ac> | i thought this will help |
00:04 | <twb> | Well the bad news is now your system might be a mix of wheezy and jessie :-( |
00:04 | <dc2ac> | is it possible to delete those lines? |
00:05 | <jmcnaught> | dc2ac: did you start with a wheezy system and add jessie sources? it's really unclear what you're trying to do |
00:05 | <dc2ac> | yes |
00:05 | <dc2ac> | but i had this dependencies problem before |
00:05 | <twb> | Please pastebin the full output of "apt-cache policy" |
00:06 | <dc2ac> | sure one moment |
00:06 | <dc2ac> | https://paste.debian.net/648237/ |
00:07 | <twb> | That's... very strange |
00:07 | <twb> | It indicates you have no apt sources at all |
00:08 | <jmcnaught> | putting you /etc/apt/sources.list file in a paste would be helpful |
00:08 | <dc2ac> | that is strange.. |
00:08 | <dc2ac> | one sec |
00:08 | <twb> | Yes, please pastebin also the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* |
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00:11 | <dc2ac> | this /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is empty |
00:12 | <dc2ac> | the first one https://paste.debian.net/648895/ |
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00:13 | <jmcnaught> | dc2ac: oh okay, so you're on a jessie system. you must have previously removed all sources, now you've added those three lines. did you run "apt-get update" after that? |
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00:13 | <dc2ac> | no |
00:13 | <dc2ac> | let me try this |
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00:14 | <twb> | jmcnaught: please run "lsb_release -a" and tell us if it says 8.0 jessie or 7.0 wheezy |
00:14 | <mdlpe> | I have trouble with Hugin : did'nt find glxinfo. I don't have any X configuration file on Jessie. Does it need it ? |
00:14 | <twb> | Er I meant dc2ac |
00:15 | <twb> | mdlpe: what is hugin? |
00:15 | <twb> | mdlpe: image editor? |
00:15 | <mdlpe> | twb, panorama soft |
00:15 | <dc2ac> | ok one moment im downloading the packages now |
00:15 | <twb> | mdlpe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugin_%28software%29 says it is a GUI wrapper around a CLI tool |
00:16 | <twb> | mdlpe: so unless you are running ssh -X, you will need X stuff installed |
00:16 | <twb> | mdlpe: if you are happy to use CLI only, you can try using the underlying "panorama tools" thing alone, I guess |
00:17 | <dc2ac> | twb i have 8.3 jessie |
00:17 | <twb> | dc2ac: OK, so definitely no wheezy? |
00:17 | <dc2ac> | yes no wheezy |
00:17 | <mdlpe> | twb, yes I have X11 but under jessie no more x11.conf file |
00:18 | <dc2ac> | i think this upgrade will do something |
00:18 | <dc2ac> | still downloading... |
00:19 | <dc2ac> | ok done, i will se how it will work now.. |
00:21 | <dc2ac> | hmm https://paste.debian.net/649994/ |
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00:23 | <mdlpe> | twb, thanks. bye |
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00:24 | <dc2ac> | any idea what to do now :/ |
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00:25 | <sqredreaper> | im back |
00:25 | <sqredreaper> | i tried 3 different distros they all give the same error, i now get irq 17 error and ums error |
00:26 | <sqredreaper> | can't even live boot with ubuntu now |
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00:28 | <dc2ac> | twb jmcnaught any idea what to do ? |
00:29 | <twb> | dc2ac: please pastebin the full output, including the command you ran to get it |
00:31 | <sqredreaper> | anyone know why i keep getting irq error 17 and no ums support in radeon module? |
00:31 | <dc2ac> | twb this is the full output and on top it says what i typed https://paste.debian.net/651205/ |
00:34 | <twb> | OK, I see. |
00:34 | <twb> | You are using dpkg instead of apt-get, this is the problem |
00:34 | <dc2ac> | oh |
00:34 | <twb> | Your end goal is "I want the latest gedit, on jessie" ? |
00:35 | <dc2ac> | twb |
00:35 | <twb> | Or do you just want *ANY* gedit |
00:35 | <dc2ac> | my goal is to have any gedit version |
00:35 | <dc2ac> | lol |
00:35 | <twb> | OK. |
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00:35 | <twb> | So you should be saying something like "sudo apt-get install gedit" |
00:35 | <twb> | Avoid dpkg entirely until you have more experience |
00:35 | <dc2ac> | twb let me try this |
00:38 | <dc2ac> | twb https://paste.debian.net/652149/ |
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00:44 | <twb> | dc2ac: try "apt-get purge gedit" first, then retry "apt-get install gedit" |
00:44 | <twb> | dc2ac: that should reverse your messed-up dpkg attempte |
00:45 | <dc2ac> | twb ok |
00:47 | <dc2ac> | twb i think we are home |
00:47 | <dc2ac> | its actually downloading it |
00:48 | <dc2ac> | its like 168mb |
00:48 | <dc2ac> | seems like a lot but im happy its doing something |
00:50 | <twb> | That'll be all the stupid dependencies it has |
00:50 | <twb> | I think it lists sizes there somewhere; aptitude GUI does |
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00:54 | <ovidnis> | i'm having trouble with a broken package (xemacs21-mule) because of a version mismatch between the dependencies for that package and the versions installed already. any tips for fixing it? |
01:00 | <twb> | ovidnis: please pastebin the full apt-get command & output |
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01:02 | <ovidnis> | twb: http://paste.debian.net/655045/ |
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01:02 | <dc2ac> | twb https://paste.debian.net/655114/ |
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01:03 | <twb> | ovidnis: I can't tell what's wrong there, I would try purging all xemacs packages, then reinstalling them |
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01:03 | <twb> | dc2ac: just rerun it |
01:04 | <twb> | dc2ac: you can see from the error it timed out downloading two files, the rest should be cached locally |
01:04 | <twb> | dc2ac: so rerun it until the downloads succeed. If you have persistent troubles, change the mirror in sources.list |
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01:06 | <dc2ac> | ok |
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01:06 | <dc2ac> | twb |
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01:07 | <ovidnis> | trying to purge xemacs21-mule fails due to the package being in "a very bad inconsistent state" (http://paste.debian.net/655696/) |
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01:08 | <twb> | Urgh |
01:08 | <twb> | The ways I've fixed such things aren't safe to tell to newbies |
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01:10 | <somiaj> | what happens if you follow the advise and reinstall the package? |
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01:10 | <twb> | somiaj: see his first pastebin |
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01:11 | <somiaj> | twb: no, just the purge failing |
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01:13 | <ovidnis> | there's a ln that fails because the file already exists. should i remove that file? http://paste.debian.net/656362/ |
01:15 | <somiaj> | you can fiddle with the postinst script to make it work it seems, but this sometimes means you have to manually do some work afterwards |
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01:16 | <dc2ac> | twb it works ! |
01:17 | <twb> | hooraaaaaaay >flails arms in air like Kermit The Frog" |
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01:17 | <dc2ac> | thanks for the help |
01:18 | <dc2ac> | kinda wonder why does gedit not come with debian |
01:18 | <twb> | dc2ac: if you chose GNOME GUI at install time, you would get gedit |
01:18 | <twb> | dc2ac: if you installed no GUI, or some other GUI, you don't |
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01:19 | <dc2ac> | oh thats why |
01:19 | <twb> | dc2ac: you probably got mousepad or kate |
01:19 | <dc2ac> | mousepad |
01:19 | <dc2ac> | lol |
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01:22 | <ovidnis> | i got it to work by satisfying some things the postinst script wanted to do but couldn't because certain files didn't exits |
01:22 | <ovidnis> | yay i can install things again |
01:24 | <twb> | maybe you could upgrade to GNU Emacs ;-P |
01:24 | <ovidnis> | i don't know why xemacs was installed tbh |
01:24 | <twb> | must have been a bogle did it |
01:27 | <dc2ac> | i have to go |
01:27 | <dc2ac> | bye |
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05:30 | <H-100> | mmm |
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05:35 | <permanent> | hi, I would need help for a connected printer, someone ? lmde |
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05:47 | <permanent> | hi, I would need help for a connected printer, someone ? lmde |
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05:48 | <danielsh> | !mint |
05:48 | <dpkg> | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
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05:51 | <permanent> | no one on linuxmint-help :/, I'm with my association and I cant enter a code in the general propoerties of my printer, just when I print something |
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05:54 | <danielsh> | Wait a bit if you haven't already. |
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05:55 | <danielsh> | (on #linuxmint-help. Most channels ask you to do that.) |
05:55 | <danielsh> | No idea about your specific problem. |
05:55 | <vortek> | \ |
05:56 | <permanent> | ok, got it, I did through cups, not through printers properties system-config-printer |
05:56 | <permanent> | couldn't get the custom code in there |
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05:56 | <permanent> | Sorry for the question |
05:57 | <danielsh> | don't be :-) |
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07:51 | <mdlpe> | hi, I have a problem to manage wifi with network manager (kde, Jessie) with two antennas |
07:52 | <mdlpe> | if I plugged my ext. antenna, I can't connect to any network |
07:54 | <movl> | anything in dmesg/logs? |
07:55 | <mdlpe> | I didn't check it |
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08:05 | <mdlpe> | http://past.debian.net/678895, but I found only it tried to connect |
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08:15 | <movl> | mdlpe, after adding an 'e' to your link I see spam, wtf |
08:16 | <mdlpe> | mov1, ?? it's the pastobin of my dmesg |
08:16 | <blast007> | no it's not |
08:18 | <mdlpe> | sorry, http://paste.debian.net/678895 |
08:18 | <blast007> | that's just spam content there |
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08:22 | <mdlpe> | sorry, paste.debian.net/678885 |
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08:24 | <mdlpe> | I found that error 14 it's unexpected authentification sequence number |
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08:30 | <blast007> | someone using Arch linux was getting those same error messages because NetworkManager and dhcpcd were running at the same time, though there were various other suggestions too. Maybe something there would also apply to your issue. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=164279 |
08:30 | <blast007> | sounds like the '(Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING)' bit is pretty vague |
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08:33 | <chele> | !arch |
08:33 | <dpkg> | rumour has it, arch is a hardware architecture (i386, amd64, armel, mips, mipsel, sparc, powerpc, alpha, hppa, s390 && ia64). Also a source control revision system (GNU arch). Arch (and its twin brother ArX) resides at http://arch.fifthvision.net/, or http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5928, or #arch Since lenny, /bin/arch has disappeared, use "uname -m" instead, or <architecture>, or <arch linux>. |
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08:34 | <grawity> | have you looked at the full system log though |
08:35 | <mdlpe> | blast007, it can't be a driver problem ? because normally my Alfa-network is not in the list of realtek chipset for the free driver |
08:35 | <mdlpe> | but it the network is good quality, it works |
08:37 | <blast007> | chele: they're not running arch - I just mentioned that there were numerous suggestions from that Arch forum that might also apply on Debian |
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08:38 | <chele> | blast007 was a typo. |
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09:17 | <mdlpe> | thanks for the help, bye |
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09:57 | <barteks2x> | How to make oom killer stop processes before the whole system becomes completely unresponsive? Last time I asked I only go answer that it's possible to configure it. But I still can't find it. |
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10:06 | <anonymous> | hola |
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10:12 | <mdlpe> | HI, I want to backup my Jessie with tar. Does I need -P option ? |
10:12 | <die-fi> | OK I have problems doing apt-get update: I get failed to fetch *** Unable to connect to ftp.de.debian.org:http: |
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10:14 | <die-fi> | I can ping my router but nothing on the Internet it seems (tried 8.8.8.8 and google.com). Nopaste can't connect either |
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10:15 | <die-fi> | Using wlan. This happened after upgrade to Jessie |
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10:29 | <die-fi> | Damit, did I miss any replies? |
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10:42 | <die-fi> | And yeah graphical interface isn't working either |
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10:42 | <reino> | hello, i have just recently created a clone of my production server and upgraded it from wheezy to jessie however I am getting odd behavior with mysql now. Would anyone be willing to assist me in sorting this out? |
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10:44 | <reino> | is anyone out there? |
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10:46 | <danielsh> | !ask |
10:46 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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10:48 | <ThomasKeller> | how do I install xxd on Wheezy ? |
10:48 | <ThomasKeller> | there is no package of that name |
10:48 | <ThomasKeller> | and apt-cache search xxd does not find anything either |
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10:49 | <danielsh> | ThomasKeller, it's probably part of vim. For future reference: apt-file search bin/xxd |
10:49 | <danielsh> | It's in vim-common |
10:49 | <reino> | I upgraded from wheezy to jessie now when hitting a page multiple times mysql is throwing Error: Unable to connect to MySQL. Debugging errno: 2002 Debugging error: Cannot assign requested address |
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10:50 | <die-fi> | Suddenly I can apt-get update again wtf |
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10:52 | <reino> | i have researched the issue for a few hours and all that is coming up are posts about auth and such |
10:52 | <reino> | however it is connecting sometimes just not after a few page reloads |
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11:12 | <retrospectacus> | reino: what page |
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11:12 | <reino> | its a site i develop |
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11:16 | <reino> | retrospectacus: josh.j-lsolutions.com |
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11:18 | <retrospectacus> | is mysql running? can you connect using the mysql command on cli? |
11:18 | <reino> | yes |
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11:18 | <reino> | and the pages load at first but if i refreash a few times i get that error |
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11:19 | <reino> | ~6-8 reloads makes that error hit |
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11:24 | <retrospectacus> | if mysql is fine, you'll have to debug in your application |
11:24 | <reino> | the application has not changed |
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11:25 | <reino> | the same code is running on the original server that i cloned this one from |
11:26 | <reino> | the only difference between the servers is the broken one is running jessie and the one that works is wheezy |
11:27 | <retrospectacus> | "Cannot assign requested address" indicates it is trying to listen on a port/IP/interface/hostname that is not available |
11:27 | <retrospectacus> | probably related to being runnning on a different server |
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11:28 | <retrospectacus> | NB; listen, as opposed to connect |
11:28 | <reino> | let me check the config |
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11:30 | <reino> | the mysql config does not have a reference to a particular host/ip only to the port it is running on |
11:30 | <retrospectacus> | the problem is in your application |
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11:32 | <reino> | thank you for your time. but i don't see how identical code can cause problems on one server but not the other |
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11:34 | <retrospectacus> | you don't see how "connect to mysql on alpha" would work on alpha but not beta? |
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11:34 | <reino> | its not alpha to beta, its alpha and alpha |
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11:35 | <reino> | i created a clone of the server just to upgrade debian |
11:35 | <retrospectacus> | they have the same IP address? |
11:35 | <reino> | no |
11:35 | <reino> | but mysql is only getting accessed from localhost |
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12:01 | <reino> | retrospectacus: i changed my connection from 127.0.0.1 to local host and that seems to have solved the issue |
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12:04 | <retrospectacus> | cool |
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12:06 | <reino> | its odd but the connection pool was not being released as quickly when it was pointing to 127.0.0.1 that is defiantly something they should have called out in the upgrade instructions |
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12:32 | <jelly> | reino: mysql is special. Asking the client to connect to "127.0.0.1" makes it use a TCP socket (to 127.0.0.1:3306), while "localhost" will make it use the unix domain socket (/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock) |
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12:33 | <reino> | thank you |
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12:46 | <anonymous> | hi |
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12:46 | <anonymous> | hey |
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12:58 | <Yst> | When I was using Xfce, I could sign several files using GnuPG while only entering my PGP key's passphrase once. I've switched to LXDE now though, and I have to enter my passphrase for each file. When signing about a dozen files in quick succession, it's getting to be a pain. Does anyone know how to get Pinentry to only ask for my passphrase once when signing many files? |
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13:02 | <ffenxz> | РУССКИЕ ЕСТЬ? |
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13:02 | <ffenxz> | дух россии матушки тут проживает? |
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13:03 | <ffenxz> | чи україни неньки? порадьте будь-ласка канал для спілкування, бо я в офіційних не знайшов |
13:03 | <diefi> | !ua |
13:03 | <dpkg> | Ukraine - ua ukr 804 User Agent. It refers to web clients, and what they send to the web server as "who they are". It can be easily faked. |
13:03 | <diefi> | !ua debian |
13:03 | <diefi> | !ru debian |
13:04 | <diefi> | !ru |
13:04 | <dpkg> | Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
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13:04 | <ffenxz> | thank uuuu |
13:04 | <ffenxz> | :* |
13:04 | <diefi> | np |
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13:09 | <diefi> | I have problems with my wifi network: I get a connection to google but no other website. Strangely I can use IRC via Smuxi. ping 8.8.8.8 gives "No Destination Host Unreachable" traceroute shows only 169.254.5.152. Its supposedly given when there are dhcp problems |
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13:11 | <diefi> | everything worked perfectly fine before i upgraded form wheezy to jessie |
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13:12 | <sney> | 169.254.0.0/16 is the zeroconf/apipa subnet, and yes if you have an address in that range something is wrong. |
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13:13 | <diefi> | the only thing that i did during the upgrade was not to upgrade the /etc/systcl.conf |
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13:14 | <diefi> | because I add net.ipv6.conf.wlan0.use_tempaddr=2 |
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13:15 | <diefi> | but I've commented that entry and I still can't do anything |
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13:15 | <diefi> | sney the question is it the fault of linux or is it some problem with my router? |
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13:16 | <sney> | it could be either, without more details it's hard to say |
13:16 | <diefi> | what info do you need? |
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13:17 | <diefi> | as I said it worked perfectly fine before the upgrade |
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13:19 | <diefi> | I just don't understand why google and irc is working but nothing else |
13:19 | <sney> | the output of 'ip a', 'ip route', and 'nslookup www.debian.org' please |
13:19 | <sney> | and yeah, "it worked before" doesn't mean anything, most stuff worked before :P |
13:20 | <diefi> | We got a problem since I can't use nopaste ... |
13:20 | <diefi> | or can i get access to paste.debian via google? |
13:20 | <sney> | hrm, ok |
13:21 | <diefi> | wait a sec |
13:21 | <sney> | what is your ip address, does 'ip route' show "default via (router address here)" and is that in the same subnet as your ip address? |
13:22 | <diefi> | I also can open debian.org but not paste.debian.net |
13:22 | <sney> | ok, you have a dns problem. |
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13:22 | <sney> | it's more likely the fault of your isp than anything |
13:22 | <diefi> | but why is ping not working than? |
13:23 | <sney> | that also points at your isp, if they have a routing issue |
13:23 | <sney> | try restarting your router, that might fix it |
13:24 | <diefi> | fuck. I called their tech support, and he tried to convince me I have to connect my laptop to the router first, after I explicitdly told him I'm connected and can ping it... |
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13:27 | <Dunams> | Just wondering, If i'm using cinnamon desktop environment, does it mean the desklets i have are strictly for cinnamon? |
13:27 | <Dunams> | because the list is kinda poor |
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13:46 | <oroshorura> | sudo apt-get update |
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14:04 | <lxle120432> | kulak |
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14:23 | <jacklegminer> | Hey all, does anyone know if it is possible to rm duplicate files using an md5sum?? |
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14:25 | <ryouma> | jacklegminer: definitely. you can also use sha1sum, and there are programs like fdupes that use size first for efficiency. |
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14:29 | <ryouma> | jacklegminer: if you want to roll your own, use sort and find and sha1sum. for efficiency you can eliminate size first, but that makes it more involved |
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14:30 | <jacklegminer> | ryouma: I have a script started that sorts them by md5, unless sha1 is better. I am outputting to a file but I don't know what commands to use to remove the dupes |
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14:32 | <jacklegminer> | It's a large multi-directory photo gallery that I was afraid of losing so I made many dupes over the years and now it's a mess. |
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14:37 | <ryouma> | jacklegminer: uniq and join can be things to consider. but if all you need is to find dupes and you don't so much care which subdir they are in when you delete, you can just use fdupes. |
14:38 | <ryouma> | also awk and bash can compare to previous hash. but we're diverging from debian per se here i guess. so further discussion in #linux or something. |
14:40 | <ryouma> | md5 is deprecated for defending against hostile attackers, but you probably don't care about that. crc32 would have collisions unless you also use size. |
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14:41 | <jacklegminer> | Is sha1 the best then? By collisions You mean the same sums of two different files? |
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14:41 | <ryouma> | also there is findimagedupes which supposedly finds duplicate images that were modified in some way. but it probably has a high error rate. |
14:42 | <ryouma> | yes, and sha1 is fine for that. git uses it. |
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14:43 | <jacklegminer> | Cool, I'm having fun messing around with scripts as opposed to using fdupes |
14:43 | <jacklegminer> | :-) |
14:43 | <ryouma> | in one of my image collections, i found a bunch of collisions with crc32, but none when combined with size. |
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14:44 | <ryouma> | (although the collisions were mostly with non-image files) |
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15:10 | <grove> | Are there any good pdf viewers in Jessie that hasn't adopted gnome's stupid CSD idea (rules evince out) and doesn't depend on a lot of KDE stuff (like qpdfview)? |
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15:14 | <anonyM> | anonymous@refinement:~$ sudo -s |
15:14 | <anonyM> | [sudo] password for anonymous: |
15:14 | <anonyM> | root@refinement:~# cd Scrivania/programmi/sees |
15:14 | <anonyM> | root@refinement:~/Scrivania/programmi/sees# python sees.py --text --config_file config/sees.cfg --mail_user config/mail.user --html_file data/html.text -vUsing SEES for malicious purposes is illegal. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK, Agree (Y|n) : y |
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15:15 | <sssalve> | salve |
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15:15 | <sssalve> | ciaooooo |
15:16 | <sssalve> | wtf??? |
15:16 | <jmcnaught> | grove: try "aptitude search ~Gworks-with-format::pdf" and then look at the "aptitude show" for interesting packages in that list |
15:17 | <jmcnaught> | sssalve: hello, do you have a Debian tech support question? |
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15:19 | <sssalve> | com |
15:19 | <sssalve> | ..:::::::::.. |
15:19 | <sssalve> | <anonyM> ..:::aad8888888baa:::.. |
15:19 | <sssalve> | <anonyM> .::::d:?88888888888?::8b::::. |
15:19 | <sssalve> | <anonyM> .:::d8888:?88888888??a888888b:::. |
15:19 | <sssalve> | <anonyM> .:::d8888888a8888888aa8888888888b:::. |
15:19 | <sssalve> | <anonyM> ::::dP::::::::88888888888::::::::Yb:::: |
15:19 | <sssalve> | <anonyM> ::::dP:::::::::Y888888888P:::::::::Yb:::: |
15:19 | <sssalve> | <anonyM> ::::d8:::::::::::Y8888888P:::::::::::8b:::: |
15:19 | <sssalve> | <anonyM> .::::88::::::::::::Y88888P::::::::::::88::::. |
15:19 | <sssalve> | <anonyM> :::::Y8baaaaaaaaaa88P:T:Y88aaaaaaaaaad8P::::: |
15:19 | <sssalve> | <anonyM> :::::::Y88888888888P::|::Y88888888888P::::::: |
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15:20 | <dihbslf> | HELLO |
15:20 | -!- | em|tue [~NotKnown@mail.emtrion.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
15:20 | <dihbslf> | Y have a debian support |
15:21 | <dihbslf> | otman!~abrotman@abrotman.user.oftc.net a Sat Apr 2 22:22:39 2016 |
15:21 | <dihbslf> | -ChanServ- [#debian] Welcome to #debian! Please see /topic for current information. This channel may be publicly logged. NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic |
15:21 | <dihbslf> | <dihbslf> HELLO |
15:21 | <dihbslf> | * em|tue è uscito (Ping timeout: 480 seconds) |
15:21 | <dihbslf> | <dihbslf> Y have a debian support |
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15:22 | <sney> | sigh |
15:22 | <charlie> | sigh |
15:22 | <charlie> | wtf? |
15:22 | <sney> | charlie: can't you go play somewhere else |
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15:22 | <charlie> | ??? |
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15:23 | <charlie> | I is italian |
15:23 | <charlie> | speak italian? |
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15:23 | <charlie> | ciao |
15:23 | <sney> | we can tell you are the same person as sssalve and anonym and dihbslf and whatever |
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15:23 | <sney> | please go play somewhere else, this channel is not for pretending to be a hacker |
15:23 | <charlie> | ?????? |
15:23 | <charlie> | ok |
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15:24 | <charlie> | credo di aver capito |
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15:24 | <charlie> | exuse me |
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15:24 | <charlie> | :( |
15:24 | <sypher> | dpkg: ops Spammer by several names from host251-77-dynamic.247-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it |
15:24 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: sypher complains about: Spammer by several names from host251-77-dynamic.247-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it |
15:24 | <charlie> | sypher |
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15:25 | -!- | charlie was kicked from #debian by babilen [you should know better] |
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15:26 | <sypher> | babilen: Thank you. |
15:26 | <babilen> | yw, thanks for the call |
15:26 | <grove> | babilen: Thanks (I was about to write an !ops thing, sypher beat me to it) |
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15:28 | <sney> | I think that's the first one that didn't just get tired and leave on his own. /ot |
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15:43 | <randolf> | hello there guys |
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15:44 | <retrospectacus> | hi |
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15:44 | <randolf> | i failing since a while to enable german keyboard on the latest debian64 live CD, any hints ? |
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15:46 | <somiaj> | randolf: by latest, do you mean a debian testing cd or a debian jessie cd? |
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15:47 | <somiaj> | randolf: also which live cd are you using? gnome/xfce/etc |
15:47 | <randolf> | Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-1 (2016-03-06) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
15:47 | <randolf> | live amd64 cinnamon |
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15:48 | <somiaj> | and cinnamon dones't have a cd switching utility? |
15:48 | <somiaj> | I mean keyboard layout |
15:48 | <randolf> | i need something i can remaster and set on grub |
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15:48 | <randolf> | like BOOT_IMAGE=/live/vmlinuz boot=live components locale=de keyb=de initrd=/live/initrd.img |
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15:49 | <randolf> | but none of the older google hints are working. full qualified de_DE.UTF-8 ... nothing |
15:49 | <somiaj> | I don't know of any boot parameter that would change the keyboard layout |
15:49 | <somiaj> | it could also be something inside the live image setting it back to default after the boot |
15:49 | <somiaj> | any reason this has to be on a live image? |
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15:50 | <randolf> | i have only 6 sata slots and i need all of them for a backup raid-5, therefore i have to boot from USB |
15:50 | <randolf> | somiaj: ups, i have seen those were pm, sorry channel |
15:51 | <somiaj> | randolf: these are not pms. But anyways, it could be a setting on the live cd that is reverting. |
15:51 | <somiaj> | randolf: debian live not only provides live images, it also provides the means to build a live image. You could try to build a custom live images |
15:52 | <somiaj> | randolf: also you can look up the docs on debian live persistance. Maybe you will be able to use persistances to make changes to the configuration to ensure it boots with the correct layout. |
15:52 | <randolf> | i know, but its 2016 ... keyboard layout should be able to get on boot, there are thousands and thousands of other live CD with those features |
15:52 | <randolf> | waaaaaaaaa |
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15:53 | <somiaj> | randolf: you could ask in #debian-live |
15:53 | <randolf> | i know all this ... but iam looking for a boot parameter |
15:53 | <somiaj> | I don't know the live images well enough to say what the issue could be. |
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16:19 | <matrix> | hi |
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17:29 | <diefi> | HI, I have the following "netstat -rn" output: http://paste.debian.net/679043/ |
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17:29 | <diefi> | my problem lies with line 5 Destination 169.254.0.0 |
17:30 | <diefi> | Is this the reason why I can't properly connect to the internet with wifi? |
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17:37 | <diefi> | how do I remove that entry? |
17:38 | <diefi> | if thats the cause |
17:39 | <narcan> | diefi: Hi, can you past the output of #ifconfig wlan0 |
17:40 | <diefi> | here it is http://paste.debian.net/679045/ |
17:41 | <narcan> | hum ok not a DHCP issue |
17:42 | <diefi> | I'm ware that the IP points to a DHCP issue, but why do I have 2 different enetryies for wlan0? |
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17:45 | <narcan> | diefi: one for DHCP request, one for default IP@ without DHCP, and another for you wlan0 interface IP |
17:45 | <diefi> | but why does the eth0 don't have one too than? |
17:46 | <diefi> | because i have normal access to the intern if I'm connected via ehternet |
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17:47 | <narcan> | diefi: maybe because eth0 is configured with static IP |
17:48 | <narcan> | I lookup to mine |
17:48 | <diefi> | is it possible that linux uses the dhcp connection via 169.254.0.0 to connect to the internet instead of the second one? |
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17:49 | <diefi> | because the only IP that I get when traceroute google.com is 169.254.*.* and that shouldn't be the case, if I remember correcty |
17:50 | <narcan> | I haven't 169.254.0.0 ip line and my wlan0 is configured with DHCP |
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17:50 | <diefi> | this all happened during the upgrade from wheezy to debian |
17:50 | <diefi> | *jess |
17:50 | <retrospectacus> | the reason you can't connect to the Internet with wifi is your first default route is via eth0 |
17:51 | <diefi> | default doesn't mean it doesn't use wifi once the default is not corrected, or am I wrong? |
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17:52 | <retrospectacus> | no idea what that string of words is supposed to mean, but remove the eth0 routes and you should be good to go |
17:53 | <diefi> | sry it should be connected not corrected :) |
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17:54 | <retrospectacus> | routes are routes. If the route matches it will take it, if the device is up or not |
17:55 | <diefi> | what I meant is shouldn't linux switch to wlan0 once the default eth0 is not connected? |
17:56 | <retrospectacus> | usually, yes. I guess you have set it up to not work that way |
17:56 | <diefi> | what I meant is shouldn't linux switch to wlan0 once the default eth0 is not connected? |
17:56 | <retrospectacus> | usually, yes. I guess you have set it up to not work that way |
17:58 | <retrospectacus> | is your eth0 set up for DHCP? Are you using a network manager or /etc/network/interfaces ? |
17:58 | <diefi> | retrospectacus: I did use the default setting from debian when I installed wheezy |
17:59 | <diefi> | I'm not sure about my dhcp or network settings in general |
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18:00 | <retrospectacus> | and your ethernet is disconnected? |
18:01 | <diefi> | I'm currently connected to use irc |
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18:02 | <diefi> | connected with *ethernet |
18:02 | <retrospectacus> | when you do disconnect it, the eth0 routes should go away. |
18:02 | <diefi> | but I still get the wlan0 problems :) |
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18:03 | <diefi> | as I said it has something to do with the wlan0 Destination for 169.254.*.*. |
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18:06 | <retrospectacus> | I have routes like that and no problem. It's for non-dhcp network. Ignore it |
18:06 | <diefi> | The weired thing was, a few hours ago before I went out I was connceted only via wlan0 and I got a connection to google.com, debian.org and irc (that was the few I found) but not to anything else (reddit.com, twitch or even paste.debian.net) This made sney think it was a DNS problem caused by my ISP, but that should be the same to eht0 than |
18:06 | <narcan> | there is nothing to do with this route but maybe with this one: 192.168.178.0 0.0.0.0 |
18:06 | <diefi> | its my routers subnet |
18:07 | <diefi> | I don't know how to call it |
18:07 | <retrospectacus> | if you unplug ethernet and reboot it should be fine |
18:07 | <diefi> | retrospectacus: I did that a few times |
18:07 | <diefi> | it didn't help |
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18:08 | <retrospectacus> | do you still have eth0 routes in that case? |
18:08 | <diefi> | I didn't test yet |
18:08 | <diefi> | well I try it quickly brb |
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18:11 | <diefi_> | OK so its basicly the same as before I can use google.com but nothing else |
18:12 | <diefi_> | or IRC in that matter |
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18:14 | <Sp0nken> | Anyone here good with clustering/webservers etc? I'm thinking about having a webserver "backup" that will have syncronized files with the primary web server, and will only be accessed when primary server is unavailable due to reboot or something, on the same network. I know a little bit about clustering and load balancing but i guess i'm looking for a simlier solution where one server is taking |
18:14 | <Sp0nken> | the biggest load, and the secondary only gets involved when needed. My explanation is terrible i hope someone understands :) |
18:15 | <retrospectacus> | diefi_: do you still have eth0 routes in that case? |
18:15 | <diefi_> | yes |
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18:16 | <diefi_> | well it changed |
18:17 | <diefi_> | Kernel IP routing table |
18:17 | <diefi_> | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface |
18:17 | <diefi_> | 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
18:17 | <diefi_> | 0.0.0.0 192.168.178.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 wlan0 |
18:17 | -!- | diefi_ was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.] |
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18:18 | <retrospectacus> | show /etc/network/interfaces Please use http://paste.debian.net |
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18:18 | <diefi_> | nice one, by smuxi. I said don't poste 7 lines and it did it anyway. And I can't use paste.debian.net can't establish a connetion |
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18:19 | <yasser> | hello every one |
18:19 | <diefi_> | as I said its very weired |
18:19 | <yasser> | last time i used xchat was 3 years ago on mint |
18:19 | <yasser> | :D |
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18:19 | <diefi_> | I have to connect via ethernet again |
18:20 | <yasser> | can you briefly reshow your issue .. may i can help ? |
18:21 | <diefi_> | well my general problem is that I can't use wifi for my internet |
18:21 | <narcan> | diefi_: but you can for IRC ? |
18:21 | <diefi_> | yes |
18:21 | <narcan> | firewall issue? |
18:21 | <diefi_> | and google.com |
18:21 | <yasser> | is the wl module is installed ... can you list the ssids on your area ! |
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18:22 | <diefi_> | yasser: if you tell me how |
18:22 | <narcan> | its a private network or business? |
18:22 | <diefi_> | private |
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18:23 | <diefi_> | firewall doesn't restrict this wlan connection |
18:23 | <yasser> | #sudo lsmod | grep -i wl |
18:23 | <narcan> | firewall can restrict an interface |
18:23 | <R4F_Debian> | Hi all, please, anyone could tell me what is the name in Debian Stable repositories for 'thunderbird' application ? |
18:23 | <yasser> | you should fine wl modules exist |
18:24 | <yasser> | *find |
18:24 | <diefi_> | iwldvm 135156 0 mac80211 474216 1 iwldvm iwlwifi 96547 1 iwldvm cfg80211 405538 3 iwlwifi,mac80211,iwldvm |
18:24 | <diefi_> | well there are some in short |
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18:25 | <yasser> | you are using ubuntu right ? |
18:25 | <diefi_> | I'm sure its has something to do with the 169.254.0.0 destination thin in netstat |
18:25 | <retrospectacus> | R4F_Debian: install "icedove" |
18:25 | <diefi_> | I use jessie |
18:26 | <diefi_> | thats when the problem firstly appeared, shortly after upgrading from wheezy to jessie |
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18:27 | <diefi_> | I couldn't do apt-get update because I couldn't get a connection to the respositories |
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18:27 | <yasser> | ok .. try this |
18:27 | <yasser> | $sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source -y |
18:28 | <retrospectacus> | brilliant |
18:28 | <yasser> | are you connected from the system had the issue via ethernet ?! |
18:28 | <yasser> | or just you are using another device ? |
18:28 | <diefi_> | no issue using ethernet |
18:28 | <yasser> | ok |
18:28 | <yasser> | try |
18:29 | <diefi_> | and no problems using other devices via Wlan |
18:29 | <yasser> | sudo apt-get update -y |
18:29 | <R4F_Debian> | Hi retrospectacus, thanks for that. icedove is the same as thunderbird ? |
18:30 | <retrospectacus> | dpkg: tell R4F_Debian about icedove |
18:30 | <yasser> | about the connection ... you did not get it ... you can connect to the internet on the system have the issue via ethernet ?! |
18:30 | <diefi_> | yasser sudo apt-get update -y not working with wifi |
18:30 | <retrospectacus> | in summary, yes |
18:30 | <diefi_> | I have this issue using wifi, |
18:30 | <diefi_> | no problems when I use ethernet |
18:31 | <retrospectacus> | yasser: his drivers are fine. he can connect to his AP. He just can't get online through it |
18:31 | <R4F_Debian> | just the same situation as firefox and iceweasel ? Just changes the name but the application itself is the same ? |
18:31 | <diefi_> | and I think it would work if I get rid of the entery in line 5 http://paste.debian.net/679043/ |
18:32 | <yasser> | do you mind if we can talk on the private chat |
18:32 | <diefi_> | sure |
18:33 | <R4F_Debian> | ok, answered here, thanks a lot for attention and help, retrospectacus |
18:33 | <R4F_Debian> | Nice to see you here again ! |
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18:35 | <retrospectacus> | sure thing |
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18:41 | <R4F_Debian> | Bye all |
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18:43 | <nezZario> | Hey guys.. Poor people problem |
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18:45 | <nezZario> | My boss gave me some Lenovo laptop and I don't have a burner, so I'm installing from USB. It asked me for firmware for the WiFi.. I only have one USB stick.. I went ahead and let it install the base system. |
18:45 | <nezZario> | How do I install the firmware for the WiFi now? |
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18:46 | <Brigo> | nezZario, without internet connection? |
18:47 | <nezZario> | No I have a working pc upstairs |
18:47 | <nezZario> | And 1 USB stick |
18:48 | <Brigo> | nezZario, ok, what wifi do you have? |
18:49 | <nezZario> | Ehh lspci and lsusb aren't very useful. I really don't have a clue. The installer knew what the file was called.. I can rerun it real quick |
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18:51 | <Brigo> | it should be listed there if it is supported by the kernel. |
18:51 | <Brigo> | i mean in lspci or lsusb |
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18:52 | <sney> | dmesg also often complains about missing firmware by name when the driver tries to load |
18:52 | <nezZario> | Thd install says.. The missing firmware files are: iwlwifi-3160-9.ucode and -8.ucode |
18:53 | <nezZario> | So let me go jump on a desktop I might can manage it from here |
18:53 | <sney> | firmware-iwlwifi is the package you need, then |
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18:54 | <nezZario> | rtl_nic/rtl8168g-3.fw |
18:54 | <nezZario> | Oh it's just a package?? Sweet. Thanks. |
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18:55 | <yasser> | hi guys |
18:55 | <yasser> | anyone here is a kernel developer |
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18:55 | <yasser> | i have some questions to ask |
18:56 | <diefi> | yasser: problem presists after reboot |
18:56 | <yasser> | aha .. then wait |
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19:24 | <nezZario> | Uh |
19:24 | <nezZario> | How do I connect to an open WiFi? |
19:24 | <diefi> | update about my problem using wifi for the internet |
19:25 | <nezZario> | I don't have iwconfig on this base system |
19:25 | <diefi> | temporally solution is to " sudo ip route flush all ". After that I can connect to the internet, but I get the same problem after reboot |
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19:27 | <diefi> | the question now, how to make the ip route change permanent |
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19:34 | <sney> | diefi: best option is probably to skip dhcp and set everything static in /etc/network/interfaces |
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19:35 | <diefi> | /etc/network/interfaces has no entery for wlan0 dhcp but one with iface eth0 inet dhcp |
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19:36 | <diefi> | should I add "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" to interfaces? |
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19:37 | <sney> | that would be the opposite of not using dhcp |
19:37 | <sney> | I figure you're using network-manager or something to manage wifi? |
19:37 | <diefi> | well eth0 has no problems connecting and it has an entery, wlan doesn't and I have problems, so I'm just wondering |
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19:39 | <sney> | you could try it |
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19:39 | <diefi> | my interface http://paste.debian.net/679078/ and my wireless dpkg http://paste.debian.net/679079/ |
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19:50 | <diefi> | !de |
19:50 | <dpkg> | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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19:57 | <retrospectacus> | diefi: removing (commenting) the eth0 lines and managing it thru your GUI will probably help. |
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19:58 | <diefi> | sec |
19:58 | <retrospectacus> | nezZario: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line |
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19:58 | <retrospectacus> | nezZario: ignore the iw commands. wireless-mode is "managed" |
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19:59 | <sney> | (setting 'wireless-mode' explicitly is usually not even needed) |
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20:15 | <diefi> | so " ip link set wlan0 up " worked |
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20:16 | <diefi> | may I ask what this command did exactly, that has changed after upgrade? |
20:17 | <sney> | all that command _should_ do is turn your wifi on |
20:18 | <sney> | so either there's something extremely bizarre with your system that's making normal actions do special things, or you changed some other stuff and didn't provide details, or, I dunno, mercury retrograde or whatever |
20:18 | <sney> | in any case, I guess you fixed it |
20:18 | <diefi> | "ip a" and "iwconfig" do only lists what I have, or did they do something too? |
20:18 | <sney> | 'ip a' is short for 'ip address' and it prints your ip address and related information. iwconfig does a similar job, and describes your wifi interface. |
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20:26 | <diefi> | sney: only thing I did was add http://net.ipv6.conf.wlan0.us net.ipv6.conf.wlan0.use_tempaddr=2 in /etc/systcl.conf when I used Wheezy long time ago |
20:26 | <diefi> | without the http:// |
20:26 | <sney> | ok. well, your system is just magical and mysterious. |
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20:28 | <diefi> | wtf it stoped working again |
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20:29 | <diefi> | i did absolutly 0 and it suddenly stoped working, again |
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20:33 | <diefi> | damit it might have been iceweasel that recovered the website from the cache, when restoring the closed tabs |
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20:39 | <gagec907> | hi |
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20:57 | <diefi> | I'm going to reinstall my network manager |
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21:29 | <nezZario> | Up and running! |
21:29 | <nezZario> | Computer #3 running debian in my house. |
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21:32 | <sqredreaper> | ello is anyone available to help me with a gpu issue? |
21:32 | <sney> | !ask |
21:32 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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21:34 | <sqredreaper> | how do i get grub to make my macbook pro load the firmware for Intel HD Graphics 3000 512 MB instead of loading it for my AMD Radeon HD 6750M 1024 MB |
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21:35 | <sney> | firmware is likely irrelevant, what's the actual behavior you're trying to change? |
21:35 | <sqredreaper> | i want it to actually boot |
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21:36 | <sqredreaper> | the new radeon firmware doesn't for for the old hardware |
21:36 | <sqredreaper> | work* |
21:37 | <sney> | if firmware were really the problem, you could just delete the offending file(s) out of /lib/firmware. but systems can have lots of unused firmware files lying around with no ill effect. |
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21:37 | <sney> | (and they often do) |
21:37 | <sqredreaper> | im trying to get any distro to actually work on my mac |
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21:37 | <sqredreaper> | with grub 2 it all loads to a black screen |
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21:38 | <sqredreaper> | i work at geeksquad so i tested it with a bunch of different computers and confirmed linux and mac suck together but its what im working with |
21:38 | <sney> | debian does not ship with *any* gpu firmware files, so unless you specifically installed the firmware-linux-nonfree package, you don't have the radeon firmware |
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21:39 | <sqredreaper> | i get the error 17 kernel panic then radeon error |
21:39 | <sqredreaper> | with mint, debian and ubunt |
21:39 | <sqredreaper> | ubuntu |
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21:40 | <sney> | and you're sure this system has a dual gpu setup? can you disable the radeon gpu in the efi interface? |
21:40 | <sqredreaper> | im sure i just switched to copy and paste them |
21:40 | <sney> | clarify |
21:40 | <sqredreaper> | do you own a mac? |
21:41 | <sqredreaper> | or know about the energy settings? |
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21:42 | <sney> | I've helped other debian users get their macs working, I don't know what energy settings you mean specifically but even if I don't know something there are other helpers in #debian who might |
21:42 | <sqredreaper> | well on a macbook pro you can switch between the two gpu's |
21:43 | <sney> | ok. there are a lot of laptops with that kind of setup. we're pretty familiar with it because linux support for it is pretty terrible |
21:43 | <sqredreaper> | i've had to get my logic board replaced because my radeon gpu went out before |
21:43 | <sney> | the best option is to pick one and stick with it, if the efi will let you |
21:44 | <sqredreaper> | im trying to get back into programming so i was going to go with debian |
21:45 | <sney> | so, are you able to disable the radeon? and does the system boot then? |
21:46 | <sqredreaper> | i don't know how to disable it thats why im here asking for help |
21:46 | <sqredreaper> | im still pretty new to linux |
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21:47 | <sney> | it would be in the mac efi, there's usually some special keystroke to get into it |
21:49 | <sney> | welp, I googled it and I guess they took that out, unless you get something better than a boot menu when holding shift or option after pressing power |
21:50 | <sqredreaper> | im using refind to so booting to grub isnt the issue. Its editing it |
21:51 | <sqredreaper> | and without it i believe its the alt/option key |
21:52 | <sney> | grub doesn't control what your hardware is doing pre-boot. the idea was we could disable the secondary gpu before the OS even sees it. this is the best option on wintel laptops, but of course apple doesn't want users having that kind of control over the hardware. :( |
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21:52 | <sney> | can you get into single user mode? in the grub menu, it'll be under the second menu item |
21:52 | <sqredreaper> | oh no OS X handles that |
21:53 | <sqredreaper> | i can try |
21:53 | <sqredreaper> | what command would i need to disable the second gpu |
21:54 | <sney> | you can blacklist the radeon driver if you can get into single user |
21:54 | <sney> | you would create a text file in /etc/modprobe.d and in it put 'blacklist radeon' then reboot |
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21:56 | <sney> | the text file can have any name but it should end in .conf |
21:58 | <sqredreaper> | ill try to do that using my raspberry pi |
21:58 | <sqredreaper> | that shoul dwork right? |
21:59 | <sney> | yeah, if you can mount the disk on a different system that's just as good |
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22:54 | <zhaolong> | hi |
22:54 | <zhaolong> | anyone here |
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22:54 | <lostson> | usually yes |
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22:55 | <zhaolong> | where are u from |
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23:03 | <diefi> | zhaolong: don't take it personal but you will not be able to start a conversation here, this is mainly a support chat, for chitchat there is #debian-offtopic@irc.oftc.net |
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23:26 | <wolfy> | hi |
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