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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-05-05

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01:16<omar>what will be right way to upgrade the system in debian??
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01:17<jmcnaught>omar: do you mean security upgrades, or a major release like wheezy to jessie?
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01:18<omar>jmcnaught: i mean apt-get upgrade if it is safe to run that
01:19<jmcnaught>omar: it is safe and recommended to run "apt-get upgrade" when there are updates on a Debian Stable system. If you use third-party non-Debian repos, they may or may not be safe
01:20<jmcnaught>omar: you also need to do "apt-get update" to update the list of packages
01:21<omar>jmcnaught: i guess iam using third party non debian repos so in that case what will be the right way??
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01:28<jmcnaught>omar: cross your fingers and hope that the third party repos are maintained by skilled and trustworthy people
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01:29<omar>jmcnaught: haha so there isnt a right way to upgrade those packages??
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01:30<jmcnaught>omar: you use the same tools, but you asked if it is safe, and i can only tell you that Debian repos are safe
01:31<omar>jmcnaught: ok
01:31<omar>jmcnaught: do you use xfce??
01:31<jmcnaught>no
01:32<omar>ok
01:32<omar>someone here use xfce?
01:32<jm_>even debian upgrades will cause issues, but it's very very rare
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01:34<omar>where is the folder for put new mouse pointer in debian i cant find it in home directory
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01:36<jm_>~/.icons shall do
01:37<omar>that folder is not there should i create it??
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01:40<jm_>it's a directory, and yes, it won't appear out of the blue
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02:22<Guest2785>do you know how to bypass an icloud id ?
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02:27<Guest2785>anyone ?
02:28<jm_>what does icloud have to do with debian?
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02:30<Guest2785>because i don't know any places to ask
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02:31<diefi>why do I have org.gnome.online.miner installed with jessie?
02:32<Guest2785>there must be something that can help me
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02:39<bill-auger_>@Guest2785 - go to the website for this icloud whatever and see how they recommend you get halp from them
02:39<bill-auger_>if they do not offer help then stop using whatever that is
02:39<terrible>?
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03:48<diefi>so regardless my problem with my wlan0 that doesn't allow my full internet access. I found this solution to my problem http://serverfault.com/questions/132657/where-route-to-169-254-0-0-comes-from. It says to add NOZEROCONF=yes to the file, but I don't have such file, whats the equivalent for that in debian?
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05:01<aidalgol>Where does reportbug get the user's email address from when none of the environment variables REPORTBUGEMAIL, EMAIL, or DEBEMAIL are set?
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05:09<aidalgol>oh, the config file. I missed that when I was looking before asking. :P
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05:16<xstation>just installed debian 8 want to edit sudoers file which I am in now at the promt i have amma@amma changed this line here to %sudo ALL=(ALL) ALL this does not seem to let amma use sudo ,?
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05:19<bill-auger>are you in the sudo group?
05:19<bill-auger>sudo is overrated anyways - you can always use su -c 'some-command'
05:20<peter1138>'always' => 'if you have a root password'
05:21<bill-auger>ok touche - but as his login looks like amma@amma i assum amma owns the box
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05:22<bill-auger>or 'her' sry amma
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05:25<diefi>bill-auger sudo is to prevent screwups
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05:28<bill-auger>what advantage has sudo over su -c if the user knows root pass - besides password caching which i consider not an advantage but an oopsie wating to happen
05:32<bill-auger>if ever i want not to enter password on every command i prefer to open root shell - at least then my prompt is ugly constantly remonding that i should have my tinfoil hat on
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05:41*p0rk0ff uses to ln -s regular user shell conf files into root's home, so ugliness is not a reliable parameter :)
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06:51<mladen>e zdravo
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06:57<mladen>što ima
06:57<jm_>!ask
06:57<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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07:39<scootergrisen>Anyone know a good tools to edit metadata in PDF files and to search a whole folder with PDf files and display all the metadata from all the files in a HTML table or something like that?
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08:02<p0rk0ff>scootergrisen, did you even search on google?
08:02<scootergrisen>Nope
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08:02<p0rk0ff>why?
08:03<scootergrisen>I dont like companies that disrespect user privacy like google does
08:03<jm_>use something else, like duckduckgo or startpage
08:04<p0rk0ff>^^
08:04<p0rk0ff>(which indirectly, btw, use google afaik)
08:05<p0rk0ff>scootergrisen, so are we assisting to your first web search ever? :)
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08:06<scootergrisen>No but maybe people would save me from a alot of testing if they know a good one
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08:09<p0rk0ff>i guess not many people are willing to spend their time answering questions you could solve by your own being less lazy
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08:12<scootergrisen>People like to help
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08:16<p0rk0ff>some of them also like to help themselves
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08:16<scootergrisen>I have cookies
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08:31<parrot>hello
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08:33<scootergrisen>hello
08:33<scootergrisen>Thought it was the other way around
08:33<scootergrisen>get it?
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08:43<diefi>what are the possible arguments for "ip route flush"?
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08:56<scootergrisen>Does --help not show that?
08:57<diefi>yes it does, but there is a thing like -statistics that does not work or I don't understand where to put that
08:58<diefi>"ip route flush all" not the same as "ip route flush root 0/0"?
08:58<diefi>*is
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09:01<scootergrisen>Also try "man ip"
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09:05<diefi>metric indicates the priority?
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09:07<diefi>according to the man pages flush purges the table. So why does it come back after restart?
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09:12<jrtc27>presumably it's loading what's been saved to disk?
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09:12<jrtc27>there's /etc/iproute2
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09:22<diefi>wtf is avahi doing?
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09:24<diefi>I think its the thing screwing up my wifi
09:25<diefi>how do I stop it from doing this avahi-daemon[672]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 169.254.5.152
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09:27<diefi>I think it adds eth0 to my routing tables screwing up my wlan
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09:45<diefi>https://cpaste.org/pfddjr5se how do I stop avahi from adding the eth0 connections to my route table ? https://cpaste.org/pfddjr5se
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10:14<frkncaps>hi
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