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00:53<R4F_Debian>Hi all, I'm having this issue, related to duplicate entries in sources list. Please anyone help me to fix this issue, for, it wasnt included two similar lines in /etc/apt/sources.list: http://pastebin.com/HkUANEtC
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00:57<somiaj>R4F_Debian: do you ahve the same source twice in your /etc/apt/sources.list file or is there a dupilcate is some file inside /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
00:57<jm_>try using paste.debian.net instead and if you want help you'll want to put the output of «grep '.' /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*»
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00:58<R4F_Debian>Hi somiaj, I see, let me check it, in the case I have to delete one line in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ or sources list ? Only this ?
00:59<R4F_Debian>Hi jm_ nice to see you ! I forgot this resource, jm_ thank you very much for remembering me !
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00:59<jm_>it's only a warning, you could simply ignore it anyway
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01:02<R4F_Debian>yeah, but I prefer Debian resource you've mentioned, instead of pastebin, jm_
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01:04<R4F_Debian>somiaj, Please, this is the content of my sources.list: http://paste.debian.net/683499/
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01:04<R4F_Debian>I can't see two similar lines on it
01:04<somiaj>R4F_Debian: line 6 and 16 are the same source
01:04<somiaj>if want the non-free one, delete the line 6
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01:05<R4F_Debian>oh, really ? ok so. Thanks for help !
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01:10<R4F_Debian>somiaj I did what you told to, deleted the line 6 and run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get upgrade , but now it's taking too much time in the last line
01:10<R4F_Debian>http://paste.debian.net/683500/
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01:11<R4F_Debian>the process upated && upgrade was finished here, but, as I said you, it took a long time in the last line. Is that normal ?
01:11<jm_>Connecting to ftp.us.debian.org (2610:148:1f10:3::89)
01:12<jm_>does your setup really support use of ipv6?
01:12<R4F_Debian>well, this is an old machine, jm_ I think it does not support ipv6
01:13<jm_>R4F_Debian: it's got nothing to do with it being old or not, it's about your ISP supporting it etc.
01:13<R4F_Debian>I only use ipv4 for my purposes here, anything wrong to my network connection ?
01:14<R4F_Debian>I'm not sure about it, jm_ what shall I do, in this case to correct this issue, please ?
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01:17<jm_>R4F_Debian: does it help if you use «-o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true» with apt?
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01:18<R4F_Debian>I think it will help, but, please, how do I use it ? what is the syntax command ? I didn't understand very much the description, sorry
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01:19<R4F_Debian>-o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true - do I have to include this parameter in any configuration file ?
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01:20<jm_>just add it to the command line
01:21<jm_>we will sort out config files later if it helps
01:21<R4F_Debian>ok, do I have it as root ? -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true
01:21<jm_>well yes, the same command you used before, just add this optipn
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01:24<R4F_Debian>ok jm_ I will run " -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true " as root here, have to wait an installation
01:24<R4F_Debian>Thanks for Great Support, jm_ !
01:24<jm_>R4F_Debian: no no no
01:24<R4F_Debian>no ?
01:24<jm_>R4F_Debian: apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true ...
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01:24<R4F_Debian>oh, ok, thanks for correction !
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01:30<R4F_Debian>jm_, I used "apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true" as you told to. It had this output: http://paste.debian.net/683501/
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01:32<R4F_Debian>trying to understand here, which combination of parameters I should use in this case..
01:32<jm_>R4F_Debian: do you know what "..." meant?
01:33<R4F_Debian>no, jm_ sincerely speaking, no...
01:33<jm_>R4F_Debian: it means add the same options you used before, so do that
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01:35<R4F_Debian>trying to understand what to do here, a bit confused. Do I have to run the "apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true" again ?
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01:36<jm_>no, you ran "apt-get update" before
01:36<R4F_Debian>oh, I see, sorry jm_ thinking like a reptile today
01:37<jm_>you also shouldn't need to use "apt-get dist-upgrade" for regular updates
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01:38<R4F_Debian>ok, jm_, so, only apt-get update...
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01:38<jm_>R4F_Debian: no, apt-get upgrade too, just not dist-upgrade
01:38<R4F_Debian>it continues to take a long time in the last line: 100% [Connecting to security.debian.org (2801:82:80ff:8009:e61f:13ff:fe63:8e88)]
01:39<R4F_Debian>ok jm_ only apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
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01:39<R4F_Debian>now it has finished
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01:39<jm_>well was it any faster?
01:40<R4F_Debian>but, see how it takes a long time in such routine: Fetched 5,192 B in 2min 0s (42 B/s)
01:40<jm_>do you still see ipv6 in the output?
01:40<R4F_Debian>well to fetch just 5,192 B in 2 min ?
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01:41<R4F_Debian>ipv6 is showed in the output like that : (2610:148:1f10:3::89)] ?
01:41<R4F_Debian>if yes, so I continue seeing it, even in the last update I have already done here
01:42<jm_>and you actually ran "apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true update" and it still shows ipv6?
01:42<R4F_Debian>By the way, can't understand why it started to happen now, that sources.list I've showed you had some time... and never had this kind of problem before
01:44<R4F_Debian>yes, and it continues taking a loooong time for fetching 5,192 B ( 2min 6s) - 41 B/s, too slow)
01:44<jm_>please put the entire output including the command on the paste site
01:45<R4F_Debian>ok
01:45<R4F_Debian>clear
01:45<R4F_Debian>pl
01:45<R4F_Debian>ok, sorry
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01:47<R4F_Debian>apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true update
01:47<R4F_Debian>http://paste.debian.net/683502/
01:49<jm_>yeah it doesn't download anything now, delete say /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie_main_binary-*_Packages and try again
01:49<jm_>as for slow speed, why are you not using ftp.br.debian.org mirror?
01:50<R4F_Debian>well, this slow speed is quite recent, only now it has began
01:51<R4F_Debian>/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie_main_binary-*_Packages
01:51<R4F_Debian>?
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01:55<R4F_Debian>jm_, I didn't understand the last procedure.. do I have to delete the content in root@r4f:/var/lib/apt/lists# ?
01:55<R4F_Debian>sorry, it's being quite difficult to follow you
01:55<jm_>R4F_Debian: delete the file I mentioned
01:56<R4F_Debian>but where can I find or specify this file to be deleted, please ?
01:56<jm_>what? /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie_main_binary-*_Packages should match one file only
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01:57<jm_>it's a full path to the file, I don't understand how you can find that confusing
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01:59<R4F_Debian>I'm trying it here, I'm really trying it... but I can't match this file
02:00<jm_>put the output of ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/ on the pastebin
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02:00<R4F_Debian>ok, sorry for that, jm_ my performance on these days with Debian are being horrible
02:02<R4F_Debian>ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/ - http://paste.debian.net/683503/
02:03<jm_>you have the matching file there as I predicted, just run «rm /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie_main_binary-*_Packages» and exactly one file should be deleted, confirm with rm -i
02:03<R4F_Debian>ok, jm_ thanks for Great Support (as always) and sorry for this situation
02:04<R4F_Debian>rm /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie_main_binary-*_Packages
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02:05<R4F_Debian>root@r4f:~# rm -i
02:05<R4F_Debian>rm: missing operand
02:05<jm_>bleh, rm -i path_to_file, you should have used it with the /var/lib/... argument
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02:07<R4F_Debian>rm -i /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie_main_binary-*_Packages
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02:07<jm_>the file is no longer there now
02:08<R4F_Debian>http://paste.debian.net/683504/
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02:14<jm_>R4F_Debian: you should continue here, now run apt-get again with the -o ... option
02:14<jm_>or if you want to continue another day then OK, do it another time
02:14<R4F_Debian>let me try the last command: apt-get -o ?
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02:15<jm_>use the full command from before
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02:17<R4F_Debian>this one from before: apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true update ?
02:17<jm_>yes
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02:19<R4F_Debian>apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true update - I think the issue is fixed, jm_ it ran nice without any late update process now
02:19<jm_>R4F_Debian: anyway, consider using ftp.br.debian.org mirror instead
02:19<R4F_Debian>Dear jm_ Thanks a Lot for Really Great Suppor and Patience ! Yes, I will, if you consider better, I will
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02:20<R4F_Debian>See you, jm_, and Very Glad for your Great Help and Attention !
02:20<jm_>to make it permanent: «echo 'Acquire::ForceIPv4 "true";' > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99force-ipv4»
02:20<jm_>you might run into the same issue with other software though and this only solves it for apt
02:20<R4F_Debian>ok, I will !, just include this line in the configuration file and save, right ?
02:21<R4F_Debian>I see
02:21<jm_>that command creates the config file
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02:22<R4F_Debian>this one: echo 'Acquire::ForceIPv4 "true" ?
02:22<jm_>together with > ... yes
02:23<R4F_Debian>the config file is: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99force-ipv4 ?
02:23<jm_>yes
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02:23<R4F_Debian>ok jm_, I will do it now. Need a rest here urgently. Thanks again, have you a good rest also ! God Bless You !
02:24<R4F_Debian>See you !
02:24<R4F_Debian>Bye !
02:24<jm_>no problem, bye
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02:39<q__>well, anyone know howto set refresh rate for crt?
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02:46<jm_>if nothing else works you can set it via xorg.conf and create a modeline in the worst case
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02:46<q__>jm_ it seems i was trying this, no good result(
02:46<jm_>q__: what exactly have you tried?
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02:46<q__>jm_ can i msg you?
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02:46<jm_>q__: no, please continue in the channel
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02:46<q__>setting modeline in device section of xorg.conf
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02:46<jm_>are you sure you need a modeline at all?
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02:46<q__>are you psyhologist?
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02:47<jm_>that's really needed only if you want to use some unusual resolution/refresh rate
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02:47<q__>well, windows earlier can this)
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02:49<q__>so the q is cost of fresh windows xp installation)
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02:51<q__>give me access to visa and mastercard network and maybe never hear such bred)
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03:32<Eloy_>jola
03:33<Eloy_>Hello
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03:33<Eloy_>Whats up nigga
03:33<Eloy_>h
03:33<Eloy_>?
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03:37<Joselete17>Hello my friends
03:37<Eloy_>fuck you
03:37-!-mode/#debian [+o jm_] by ChanServ
03:37<Joselete17>oc.
03:37<Joselete17>oh, that was rude
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03:42<Joselete17>tell me some jokes
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03:42<@jm_>this is a debian support channel, please use other channels if you want to chat
03:43<Joselete17>okay
03:43<Joselete17>tell me one, please
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03:44<@jm_>I don't know them, but surely your irc client knows about /list etc.
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03:46<Joselete17>thanks
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03:56<jkp_>hello and goodmorning. I have a service that after install cant be found and but is active in a exited state.
03:56<jkp_>any tips on troubleshoot
03:56<jm_>can you be even more vague about it?
03:57<jkp_>the ovirt-quest-agent is install successfully but will not run and cant be tab-completed
03:58<jm_>there is no such package in debian
03:58<duclicsic>jm_: "ovirt-guest-agent"
03:58<jkp_>yes there is
03:58<duclicsic>that package doesn't install any binaries as far as i can tell
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03:59<duclicsic>so you wouldn't expect there to be some tab-completeable application
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04:00<jm_>it seems to depend on qemu-guest-agent which does
04:00<jm_>so if you have completion for /etc/init.d it would work
04:00<jkp_>well I have to servers running it and can tap-coomplete it when doing the start "systemctl start ovirt....
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04:01<jm_>ahh that package also has init.d file
04:01<duclicsic>jkp_: these working systems are not running debian?
04:01<duclicsic>but this one is?
04:01<jm_>the version in sid has systemd unit file
04:02<jkp_>duclicsic, yep debian 8.4
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04:06<jkp_>hmm the init scrtips are 2 different ones. But cat /etc/issue give the same result. I think it is the mirror
04:07<jm_>no
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04:08<jkp_>nope same package but 2 different init.d scripts
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04:33<foreverknight>How do you edit /etc/default/grub file?
04:34<vortek_>with nano
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04:34<vortek_>or gedit if you want a g.u.i.
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04:38<jm_>you need to be root, or is your question about what to put in it?
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04:47<smokeysea>any body mplayer expert here? I am having issue in full screening the video; other inbuild player work in debian 8.0
04:48<smokeysea>It says Error when calling vdp_device_create_x11: 1.
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04:58<jm_>why not use something else, say mpv?
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05:07<reader>hello, there
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05:09<reader>I want Iceweasel to understand static routes, that set in /etc/hosts, can anyone suggest, how it can be configured?
05:11<duclicsic>reader: that makes no sense at all. how will running a web browser help you understand static routes?
05:11<duclicsic>static routes also do not go in /etc/hosts
05:13<duclicsic>ok i misread slightly, but you still don't make much sense
05:13<reader> Oh, maybe it is a little bit general question
05:13<reader>I'm trying to learn NGINX technology
05:13<duclicsic>iceweasel or any other application that performs dns lookups should honour the contents of /etc/hosts
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05:14<reader>Now, I want to test configuraion that depends on server name requests not on explicitly specified addresses
05:14<duclicsic>reader: what are you putting in /etc/hosts ?
05:14<reader>one sec...
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05:15<duclicsic>ok, you're trying to visit a web server for which there isn't any real dns, and are using your hosts file to ensure your browser sends the correct http host header?
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05:19<reader>can you please, suggest, how it can be done?
05:19<duclicsic>reader: i've asked you two questions that you have not answered
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05:20<duclicsic>reader: if you want help, you need to pay attention to the questions you're asked, and attempt to answer them
05:20<reader>in /etc/hosts I added '<ip_address> example.com'
05:20<duclicsic>great
05:20<reader>and ping command reads the file properly
05:21<duclicsic>excellent
05:21<duclicsic>but the browser doesn't work?
05:21<reader>but when trying to access the web page from the browser it displays me example domain page
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05:21<reader>maybe I should play a bit with nginx config
05:22<duclicsic>reader: so it actually displays the real example.com rather than the page on your own server?
05:22<reader>yes
05:22<reader>seems like this
05:22<reader>but
05:22<duclicsic>iceweasel isn't configured to use a proxy is it?
05:22<reader>if when set for example '8.8.8.8 google.com' in hosts
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05:22<reader>browser unable to access google
05:23<reader>I'm checking for the proxy configurations....
05:23<duclicsic>so when you browse to example.com you see "Example Domain
05:23<duclicsic>"
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05:29<reader>yes
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05:31<reader>it is configured to 'Use system proxy settings'
05:32<reader>now it works
05:32<reader>looks, like it just took him a time?
05:33<reader>or maybe it was user brain issue
05:33<reader>one second
05:35<reader>both example.com and example.org has same redirection set on separate lines in /etc/hosts
05:35<reader>example.com brings me to the server
05:35<reader>example.org still to the example domain
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05:58<reader>example.org, regardless if set or not taking me to the Example Domain
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06:50<tz_azd>Hi all, I have an IPSec related question: What is the current recommended client software? strongSwan seems to be the most up to date, there is also libreswan and then there is a combination of racoon and ipsec-tools which is mentioned on this wiki page: https://wiki.debian.org/IPsec
06:50<tz_azd>Thanks in advance
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06:54<grawity>I'd go with strongSwan unless you like libreswan more for some reason
06:54<grawity>racoon seems a bit outdated, plus it doesn't do IKEv2
06:55<grawity>(though IIRC there's a version which does, but... doesn't seem very up-to-date either.)
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06:57<hypfer>Hi, i just installed jessie from netinstall. installed elasticsearch from the repos and it won't start. No error. just "active (exited)" no logs. nothing. I'm loosing my mind
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06:59<Walex>tz_azd: strongSwan is a bit more complete, Strongswan is a bit better designed. I use strongSwan (with the kernel IPSEC module) because it supports SSH RSA keys, which is very convenient.
07:00<tz_azd>Thanks. Walex: Is the kernel module optional or required?
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07:25<grawity>Walex: by "kernel ipsec" do you mean netkey (ip xfrm)?
07:26<grawity>tz_azd: an external module isn't required
07:27<grawity>they used to recommend it, but recently at least strongswan has been recommending the native mode, AFAIK, because it's gotten "good enough"
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07:30<Syperion>Hi
07:32<arand_>I get spurios password prompts for my gmail accounts, where typing the correct password fails each time, I have set them up and already authenticated with gnome online accounts and evolution works fine with the existing auth.
07:32<arand_>Does anyone know what could be responsible for these password prompts, and how to make them go away?
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07:46<peter1138>i get it too
07:46<peter1138>annoyingly it's modal, so i can't use my password manager to reenter it even if it would work.
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07:50<q__>howto set refresh rate for crt, modeline in monitor section of xorg.cong do not help, any other ideas?
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07:52<q__>any help from channel for debian user?
07:52<jm_>does it detect monitor timings?
07:53<q__>what it?
07:53<q__>0.0hz for all resolutions
07:53<q__>60 hz indeed
07:53<q__>i need 75
07:54<q__>my eyes hurt
07:54<jm_>look in X logfile to see if it monitor reports legal ranges
07:54<jm_>-it
07:54<q__>where to look?
07:54<jm_>/var/log/Xorg.0.log
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07:55<ascabam>eae
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07:56<ascabam>#debian-br
07:56<q__>using vrefresh range of 50.00-160.00 Hz
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07:58<q__>what other ideas?
07:58<q__>looking done
07:59<jm_>can't comment without seeing the details
08:00<q__>so?
08:00<q__>stop talking?)
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08:01<q__>5 mins
08:01<jm_>wow that's a great way to get help here, good luck
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08:04<q__>http://paste.debian.net/683547/
08:05<q__>~details~ for jm_
08:06<q__>jm_, so?
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08:10<q__>chareaters?
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08:12<Nemoder>can you change it with xrandr?
08:12<q__>no
08:12<q__>xrandr buggy
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08:13<q__>Rate 75.00 Hz not available for this size
08:14<q__>and so other shit
08:14<Nemoder>what gpu is it? maybe it's a limit with vesa
08:14<q__>badmatch error at low levels
08:15<q__>windows is support 75hz for 1280x1024
08:15<q__>so install windows is best idea)
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08:17<q__>or do research of eide reading by myself(
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08:18<q__>at low levels of such researching i need schematics of mobo and other stuff
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08:19<scootergrisen>Are GNOME suppose to remember that my program was maximized when i close with Ctrl+F4?
08:20<scootergrisen>It seems sometimes it remembers and sometimes it does not
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08:25<reader>exit
08:25<reader>q
08:25<reader>quit
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08:25<scootergrisen>Try with "/" in front
08:26<scootergrisen>Or maybe wrong window :)
08:29<CaBa>hi
08:29<CaBa>is there a way to partition multiple disks using d-i preseed partman? without using LVM?
08:30<CaBa>the doc somehow suggest that the whole device{} logic is only for LVM...
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09:33<Walex>CaBa: IIRC I did that without too much trouble, but I can't remember the details
09:33<Debian||Cinnamon>help.. I;m on Debian 8 x86 Jesse Base install I installed Chromium but Flash not working even after install pepperflashplugin
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09:34<CaBa>Walex: hm. pitty ;)
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09:36<zathras>I am trying to reverseproxy Odoo (/odoo to localhost:8069 ). It is receipe I have used many times, but it fails here. Loads of 404s. on everything in subdirectories. Any thoughts why? (it is on Debian Jessie)
09:37<zathras>http://pastie.org/10834256
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09:37<zathras>config file is in /etc/apache2/conf-available/ and it is enabled
09:37<zathras>I know Odoo is not part of the Debian repo, but this is actually an Apache issue
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10:14<ballax>hi
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10:14<ballax>can anyone help me troubleshoot a problem? I've got a http server on a LAN, I can ping it from other computers but I cant reach http port except from localhost
10:15<ballax>I don't have iptable rules and I used the ufw -disable command
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10:16<ballax>when I run tcpdump on port 80 I get some data when trying to access the server but nothing is displayed in the other computers (even nc connection times out)
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10:19<ballax>any thoughts?
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10:20<duclicsic>ballax: can you run 'iptables-save -c' and put the output on paste.debian.net
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10:22<duclicsic>if connections to port 80 are timing out it would tend to suggest that something is actually dropping the packets, if it were simply not listening or something you'd expect to receive a rejection rather than a timeout
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10:24<ballax>ok
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10:25<ballax>can i PM it?
10:25<duclicsic>sure
10:25<ballax>thanks
10:26<ballax>I need to run but I'll be back in 5 min ! thanks duclicsic
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10:26<duclicsic>ok... so whatever "ufw -disable" does, it doesn't clear out your iptables rules
10:27<duclicsic>god i hate ufw. "uncomplicated" it calls its self
10:27<duclicsic>that's nearly 100 lines of iptables
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10:31<duclicsic>ballax: so. the issue is that your current iptables rule set does not permit these packets. i'd normally suggest scrapping ufw because i think it's awful, but if you'd prefer to keep it i think you just run "ufw allow 80/tcp"
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10:43<anonymous>hellp
10:43<anonymous>hello
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10:43<diefi>!ask
10:43<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
10:43<duclicsic>patience is a virtue...
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10:46<ballax>duclicsic: will try
10:47<ballax>thanks!
10:47<ballax>that worked
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10:48<duclicsic>ballax: sweet.
10:49<ballax>you guys are great! keep up the good work!
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13:28<Maxxter123>hi, Whats the full packacge name for the full Cinnomon Desktop enviorment?
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13:29<Maxxter123>cinnamon-desktop-environment?
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13:29<mtn_>Maxxter123: have you tried using tasksel?
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13:30<Maxxter123>No ive google it right now
13:30<Maxxter123>It seems nice to use
13:30<mtn_>Maxxter123: it is what is run in the installed, very nice way to install desktops
13:30<mtn_>installed/installer
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13:31<Maxxter123>I saw it on the installing proces
13:31<Maxxter123>Im not a pro so im new to this stuff
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13:33<Maxxter123>Wierd question Can it hurt my systen if i install all of the Desktops Envior.
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13:33<mtn_>Maxxter123: it might mess some minor things, otherwise, no.
13:33<mtn_>mess up, that is
13:34<Maxxter123>Okay, I will keep that in mind
13:35<Maxxter123>Hard to choice tho
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13:35<mtn_>Maxxter123: maybe test them using live disks?
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13:37<Maxxter123>mtn_:Im testing them. But I want to fully test them with my daily use
13:37<Maxxter123>I love the Cosemizing of KDE and the Simple interface of MATE
13:38<Maxxter123>customizing*
13:38<mtn_>Maxxter123: then test away! you can always reinstall if needed
13:38<Maxxter123>i am
13:39<Maxxter123>Thanks for u help mate :D
13:39<Maxxter123>cya
13:39<mtn_>Maxxter123: welcome
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14:21<Human_G33k>Somebody have a good tutorial for apt-build ?
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14:23<somiaj>Human_G33k: what are you trying to achive?
14:23<musca>Human_G33k: seems to be deprecated?
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14:24<Human_G33k>if i understand well we can use it for replace apt, and compile each package, right ?
14:25<somiaj>Human_G33k: oh you want some tool that compiles every package for you then installs them (something like gentoo)?
14:25<Human_G33k>yep
14:26<somiaj>Human_G33k: I do notice apt-build has seen very little developemtn since wheezy, might be that if you really want to compile all packages from source debian is not the best choice
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14:27<somiaj>yea the package has been orphaned for a while now, it could just have no development and may not work as expected
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14:28<musca>!apt-build
14:28<dpkg>apt-build is probably an apt-get front-end for recompiling packages . Warning -- this program will not optimize your packages for you as advertised; the gcc O flags and friends that you specify are not even parsed properly. In a breath, don't bother with it, because apt-get source/build-dep is far more useful.
14:29<somiaj>yea seems that the package hasn't been matined for a while, there are lots of old bugs in it (2010 ish) and then no newer ones, might be it really sin't used
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14:29<somiaj>Human_G33k: You can get a good amount of optimization by just building key packages, but I don't think debian is the best distro of choice if you want to build all packages from source.
14:30<Human_G33k>but for it make sense to have this king of tool ...
14:30<Human_G33k>*kind
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14:31<Human_G33k>So an other question somebody know if/where we can find founding if i want dev for debian ?
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14:32<somiaj>!tell Human_G33k about nmg
14:32<somiaj>!tell Human_G33k about mentors
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14:33<somiaj>Human_G33k: read the new matainer's guide. It takes a lot to be a debin developer, but a package matainer is not that hard. First find a package to matain, second create a build package, third find a mentor/sponsor to help ensure the packgae is of debian quality and to upload it to the servers for you.
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14:35<Human_G33k>i know that but my current problem is money i creating a company for create Free Software.
14:35<somiaj>Human_G33k: I don't follow how that is a problem?
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14:38<Human_G33k>^_^ no money no food. i feel upset to can't do what i want because of money, and for the moment i need to choose how spend my time
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15:50<nicolo>ciao
15:50<nicolo>!list
15:50<dpkg>nicolo: È possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-8.3.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso !
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16:04<fintoil>ganoo plus linucks
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16:12<R4F_Debian>Hi all, |I had to make some adjustments here for update was taking too long time (something related to IPV6 enabled connection, that I don't use)
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16:13<R4F_Debian>I had to create this following configuration file, but It didn't work: echo 'Acquire::ForceIPV4 "true"; > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99force-ipva
16:14<R4F_Debian>Hope anyone can help me, for this made update a difficult and too long situation: http://paste.debian.net/683642/
16:17<peter1138>mismatched '
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16:19<R4F_Debian>Hi peter1138
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16:19<R4F_Debian>I don't know to fix this issue, it's taking a long time for 'apt-get update' procedure now
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16:20<R4F_Debian>peter1138, in other occasion, when I used 'apt-get update' it returned "Syntax Error"
16:23<peter1138>Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if you've got junk in that file.
16:26<R4F_Debian>peter1138, do you have any idea about how to fix this issue ?
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16:29<R4F_Debian>this line takes several minutes: 100% [Connecting to ftp.us.debian.org (2610:148:1f10:3::89)]
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16:29<R4F_Debian>therefore, update process becomes slow
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16:31<R4F_Debian>see how update speed is too slow: Fetched 736 kB in 2min 8s (5,738 B/s)
16:31<R4F_Debian>Hope anyone can help me on this
16:32<musca>repeat your echo command, but make sure to match the beginning ' with a closing '
16:32<musca>what peter1138 said: mismatched '
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16:33<R4F_Debian>musca, through this information, it's impossible for me to repair it, for the problem is just syntax error and I don't know the correct syntax
16:33<R4F_Debian>Suggesting me to repeat echo command only will make me to repeat the same error.....
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16:34<R4F_Debian>it was made ' with a closing ', but problem persisted
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16:39<necron>hola gente
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16:39<R4F_Debian>necron, english, please
16:40<necron>por que? estoy en mi derecho de hablar mi lengua materna
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16:43<necron>bueno os dejo por hoy
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16:52<R4F_Debian>necron, this channel has some rules; one of them is about official language for Debian Support in this channel, and the official language here is english, not spanish
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16:55<danielsh>!es
16:55<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
16:56<musca>R4F_Debian scared him away already ;-)
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16:57<musca>R4F_Debian: the man page names the option "ForceIPv4"
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16:58<R4F_Debian>danielsh, only ask your questions in english, please
16:59<blast007>R4F_Debian: look again.. they were triggered the bot factoid that shows where to get support in spanish
17:00<danielsh>R4F_Debian, You might want to just invoke that factoid yourself next time people ask questions in other languages
17:00<R4F_Debian>having some issues here, musca, I will try to understand through man page, thanks a lot !
17:00<musca>R4F_Debian: I tried, but i can't produce a diffrence with either wording
17:01<musca>but i have dual stack networking here.
17:01<R4F_Debian>danielsh, it is question of rules, not my rule, we have to respect rules from this channel. Why it's being so difficult for you to understand this ?
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17:02<R4F_Debian>yes, blast007, I noticed that
17:02<danielsh>R4F_Debian, I *understand* the rule, I tried to teach necron the rule.
17:02<R4F_Debian>no problem musca, thank you very much anyway
17:02<blast007>R4F_Debian: what are you talking about?
17:03<danielsh>I think he's saying I'm not allowed to trigger factoids written in other languages :)
17:03<R4F_Debian>blast007, danielsh is from Debian Support ?
17:03<danielsh>R4F_Debian, It doesn't matter where I'm from,
17:03<blast007>"from Debian Support" ... is that even a thing?
17:03<danielsh>so long as I contribute constructively ...
17:04<blast007>R4F_Debian: those factoids are used quite often to direct users to the appropriate channel to get support in their native language
17:05<blast007>there are similar factoids for other non-Debian distributions to direct users to their distribution's support
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17:05<R4F_Debian>I see, that's why danielsh is so ungry now
17:05<danielsh>I'm not angry
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17:05<R4F_Debian>well, danielsh, sorry for mistake, I just made a confusion here
17:05<danielsh>No problem :)
17:05<R4F_Debian>sorry me, please
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17:06<danielsh>It's all forgotten, R4F_Debian
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17:06<R4F_Debian>and, by the way, you are my Brother in Debian !
17:06<danielsh>:)
17:06<R4F_Debian>danielsh :)
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17:06<danielsh>blast007, Thanks for the help clearing this up.
17:07<R4F_Debian>thanks for clarifying here for me, blast007 !
17:08*danielsh (it's late here - good night)
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19:27<mdlpe>how to avoid session lock with jessie / gnome. I put the right paramaters on gnome but this doesn't change nothing
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21:20<chomwitt>trying to install python-django the terminal is stuck in 'Unpacking python-django' for 10 minutes now.
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21:21<chomwitt>ok .. it moved!
21:21<chomwitt>strange why it took it so long..
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22:57<matt__>hello debian, i'm having troubles installing from netinst on a fresh machine
22:57-!-topcyde [~topcyde@2602:304:cdb8:9e40:98be:a7cd:7e8:edf4] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
22:57<matt__>it seems to be a grub/uefi issue as i get a "can't install grub" during the isntall
22:58<matt__>i don't need dual boot so i tried reformatting the whole disk, but without luck
22:59<matt__>to boot from the cd in the first place i had to disable "secure boot" from the bios
23:01<matt__>the installer splash screen mentions "uefi installer menu" and asks me to "force uefi" later in the install process
23:01<matt__>that's all the information i can think about, let me know if you have some advice!
23:02<matt__>(as i said it's a fresh machine so i don't mind reformatting everything to make sure partitions are setup properly)
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23:07<blast007>matt__: did you partition manually?
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23:15<blast007>matt__: if so, you might have forgot to create the EFI System Partition
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23:52<matt__>first time i did manually (including the ESP), second time i used automatic because i thought i did something wrong with the partition
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