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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-05-15

---Logopened Sun May 15 00:00:15 2016
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00:58<woddf2>For some reason, the Compose key doesn't work in xterm, rxvt-unicode, or Emacs, but it works in Iceweasel and Audacious. How do I get it to work in those other applications?
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01:00<pi__>run 'screen -S IRC irssi'
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01:14<TxGVNN>Hi everyone. When each package have updated. I want to view changelog of it. How to view changelog?
01:14<TxGVNN>i try "apt-get changelog"
01:14<TxGVNN>but, it 's error
01:14<TxGVNN>example : (http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/updates/main/i/icedove/icedove_38.8.0-1~deb8u1/changelog)
01:14<TxGVNN>not found
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01:19<jmcnaught>TxGVNN: once installed each package has a changelog on your system, for example: /usr/share/doc/icedove/changelog.Debian.gz (read it with zless)
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01:20<cloz>hello
01:20<jmcnaught>TxGVNN: there's also apt-listchanges which you can configure to show changelogs when packages are upgraded (by default it only shows news)
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01:21<cloz>hi
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01:24<TxGVNN>jmcnaught: Thank you very much!
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01:32<matt__>TxGVNN jmcnaught, in the same direction, is there a way to see what will be updated by apt-get upgrade after running apt-get update?
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01:33<matt__>or the best way os to start apt-get upgrade, and then answer "no" when asked to proceed; then apt-cache policy <package> if i want to see what an update is about?
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01:35<jmcnaught>matt__: you can do "apt list --upgradable" or "aptitude search ~U"
01:36<matt__>excellent, thank you
01:39<matt__>how that's a ~, sneaky
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01:40<jmcnaught>matt__: that's the short form for ?upgradable, there's a reference here: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/aptitude/ch02s04s05.en.html (aptitude's search terms are really useful)
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01:47<TxGVNN>matt__: yep, i run apt-get update and next run apt-get upgrade =D
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01:48<TxGVNN>i was understand
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01:53<matt__>i need to understand the difference between aptitude and apt-get at some point
01:54<matt__>thanks for the link jmcnaught
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04:06<R4F_Debian>Hi all, I downloaded and compiled through native Debian tools the Amule source code. Then, after compilation and configuration, .deb files were available and were installed through dpkg -i *deb
04:07<R4F_Debian>But, I had to include this line to my sources.list: deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main. Is there any risk on this ?
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04:40<musca>R4F_Debian: No risk - no fun! You are enjoying young code that wasn't matured during a freeze, bugs may kill the kittens and eat your data.
04:41<musca>Last month ubuntu took that code and labeled it "LTS".
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05:06<jayk>test
05:06<jayk>hello
05:06<matt__>o/
05:06<jayk>wuttup
05:06<ompaul>is there an echo ...
05:06<jayk>echo
05:06<jayk>nope
05:06<jayk>who are you and why am I here
05:07<jayk>yolo
05:07<ompaul>you are here because you have a technical question about debian?
05:07<jayk>oh no i dont
05:07<jayk>sorry
05:07<jayk>testing out irc
05:07<jayk>have a good night sir!
05:08<ompaul>I will when it is no longer my day time.
05:08<ompaul>good day to you
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05:26<TiTan>hey, how many pid's can i have in a system?
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05:33<barteks2x>TiTan, run cat /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max
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06:13<ab2>I have this alert/error Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.19-18+deb8u4) ...
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06:17<ab2>I have this alert/error "/sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0" is not a symbolic link (this file libssl.so.1.0.0 should be link of who?)
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06:18<ab2>i can create a link of this file but it should point to another file, the question is, which name should be?
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11:43<bobbydedebian>yo
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11:53<vakz>Hi. I'm trying to downgrade a package (qemu) in order to narrow down an issue I'm having. As far as I can tell, this should be done through "apt-get install -t=jessie install qemu", which should get me 2.1, but it keeps getting the latest for stretch (2.5) anyway. Any suggestions what I might be missing?
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11:54<vakz>Ah, I actually only have one "install" in the command, that's just a typo when I wrote it in here
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12:00<anoki>I don't know why I ever leave, I wander off and explore arch, gentoo, rpm based distros but always end up back on debian testing or unstable
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12:01<anoki>I wish it was a bit more bleeding edge but debian just feels like home on a linux box
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12:02<jrtc27>there's always backports
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12:04<anoki>True but debian unstable and backports are tinkering and fixing, I think debian wasn't designed to operate well with bleeding edge packages like arch is.
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12:04<anoki>gentoo is too much compiling for me, its exhausting
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12:06<hamiltont>Hi all, I’m working my way thru OReilly’s “Linux Device Drivers” and it recommends you compile then launch into a 2.6 kernel. I’ve build 2.6.39, but when I go to boot debian 8 I get errors on initializing systems like cgroups. Is jessie unable to run 2.6? If yes, can anyone recommend which debian version I should try instead?
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12:09<jrtc27>,kernel
12:09<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.6.0-rc7-686-pae (4.6~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 4.5.0-2-686-pae (4.5.3-2); stretch: 4.5.0-2-686-pae (4.5.3-2); jessie-backports: 4.5.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.5.1-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.78-1)
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12:11<jrtc27>i.e. use 3.16+ or you're going to be using something completely untested
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12:12<hamiltont>Darn, the interfaces for learning to write drivers seem to be quite different from 2.6 to 3.x
12:12<hamiltont>and I’m wanting to follow a book based on 2.6
12:12<hamiltont>guess I’ll have to figure out anyoher way - thought I could locate an older version of debian for learning
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12:53<ab2>I have this alert/error "/sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0" is not a symbolic link (this file libssl.so.1.0.0 should be link of who?)
12:53<ab2>i can create a link of this file but it should point to another file, the question is, which name should be?
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12:54<ab2>sombebody?
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13:49<appas>hey, can someone help me with a synaptics touchpad? it stopped working after an apt upgrade. syndaemon says "No synaptics properties on device 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'", although there is a config file for the device at /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf
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13:53<appas>Xorg.0.log shows no problems loading the driver, however synclient says "Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"
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13:54<ceibal>hola
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13:56<appas>!es
13:56<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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14:01<awal_>appas, jessie?
14:04<awal_>stable upgrades doesn't generate such problems, normally ...
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14:08<appas>awal_: testing... yeah i guess i should ask -next
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14:08<awal_>appas, exact
14:10<appas>do you mind telling me what the package name is for the synaptics driver, so that i can see if it was affected by the upgrade?
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15:00<awwwal>all the time problems with freenode. ip banned now
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15:23<appas>how do i manually install dependencies for an installed package? i already tried --reinstalling the package, but the dependencies are still missing
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15:23<mtn>appas: a package from the debian repos? I don't think so
15:24<mtn>appas: or is this testing/sid?
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15:26<appas>testing, however the package is marked as a dependency and not getting installed, so i think it's a general problem (in my using of the tools)
15:26<mtn>appas: ok, you are on the wrong channel for testing support
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15:41<luis>hola
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16:17<acald3ron>a good pdf viewer ?
16:18<lostson>Okular
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16:24<Zycorax>Okay, I officially messed up. Can someone help me get wireless to work again?
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16:27<mtn>!ask
16:27<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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16:30<Zycorax>I tried to set up static address trough /etc/network/interfaces, didn't work, reverting changes doesn't seem to revert functionality either.
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16:34<R4F_Debian>Hi all, I would like to install avidemux in my Debian Jessie 8.4. Occurs that it is not present in stable repository, so I think to use this procedure: http://paste.debian.net/684080/ . Please, hope anyone can clarify me about this. Thanks since now !
16:34<R4F_Debian>http://paste.debian.net/684080/
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16:41<awwwal>,v avidemux
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16:41<judd>Package: avidemux on amd64 -- wheezy-multimedia: 1:2.5.6-dmo6; jessie-multimedia: 1:2.6.8-dmo8; sid-multimedia: 1:2.6.12-dmo1
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16:43<R4F_Debian>Hi awwwal and judd, thanks for attention. I see, there is this version available, but, please, if I had to compile the source code, should it be like in the paste ? http://paste.debian.net/684080/
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16:48<awwwal>R4F_Debian, I have built a few official deb pkgs from sources, but never from third parties; not sure right now xD
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16:49<R4F_Debian>Please, awwwal, where can I get these official .deb packages from sources ?
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16:50<awwwal>R4F_Debian, why you need avidemux? what it can do for you exactly? there is maybe an alternative from debian repos
16:50<R4F_Debian>Sure I will always prefer Official Debian alternatives than third parties
16:50<awwwal>avidemux is available from jessie-multimedia ,
16:50<R4F_Debian>I would like to test it and compare it to other similar devices
16:50<R4F_Debian>is that ?
16:51<awwwal>dont ask me what is jessie-multimedia, I have no clue, never used it
16:51<R4F_Debian>E: Unable to locate package avidemux
16:51<awwwal>dpkg: what is jessie-multimedia
16:51<dpkg>awwwal: what are you talking about?
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16:52<awwwal>!jessie-multimedia
16:52<R4F_Debian>jessie-multimedia is the part of stable repository for Debian Jessie, I suppose, I tried to find there, but there was no package with 'avidemux' name
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16:55<awwwal>R4F_Debian, me I use openshot
16:55<R4F_Debian>there isn't awwwal: https://packages.debian.org/stable/video/ https://packages.debian.org/stable/sound/
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16:56<R4F_Debian>yes, I intend to test avidemux, comparing to openshot, kdenlive and others
16:56<R4F_Debian>just to have a precise idea about technical differences between them
16:56<R4F_Debian>I have openshot and kdenlive here installed also
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16:58<awwwal>https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
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16:59<R4F_Debian>oh, so there is a strong reason to avoid this procedure, awwwal
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17:00<R4F_Debian>Thanks for this information, I've forgotten about related issues to third parties softwares
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17:26<R4F_Debian>I must go now, thanks for attention and suggestions, awwwal, they were quite useful for me here !
17:26<R4F_Debian>Thanks, judd ! See you soon !
17:26<R4F_Debian>Bye awwwal ! Bye all !
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18:36<anonymous__>MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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18:36<anonymous__>MMMN$ vMMMM
18:36<anonymous__>MMMNl MMMMM MMMMM JMMMM
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18:39<buser>hi, any help with compatible release for macbook 5.1 is very welcomed
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19:09<R4F_Debian>Hi all, I would like to practice a little bit of compilation according Official Debian guidelines. Please, where can I find corresponding documentation about this ?
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19:13<R4F_Debian>Also I would like to know if is that secure maintaining a repository with the list line as described here: http://paste.debian.net/684124/
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19:15<R4F_Debian>I had to include this last line for download and compilation of source code by a known Debian adress, don't know if I have to maintain it to my sources.list
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20:15<matt__>Where can I find which services run at startup? I tried service --status-all, which seems to indicate that mpd is not starting ([-])
20:16<matt__>but it seems to start anyway because when i try to start mpd with my own user it says that it's already started (and i can fixe the problem by service stop mpd)
20:16<matt__>is there something i'm doing wrong?
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20:35<xvistaman>hello i am haveing issue with debian 8 and apt i was trying to install the package bochs i had it installed before but removed but apt cant seem to find it to install it agine i checked my sources.list all the debian repos are there and apt-get update works but it cant localte the packge
20:41<lostson>if you do a apt-cache search bochs nothing shows up ?
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22:40<R4F_Debian>Hi all, Please, I would like to know if there is any specific official Debian jessie repository target to download source codes, in order to be compiled by Debian tool 'apt-build'
22:41<R4F_Debian>My current sources.list is this: http://paste.debian.net/684237/
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22:55<dvs>R4F_Debian, Is "apt-get source" what you're looking for?
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22:58<R4F_Debian>Hi dvs, nice to get your help ! In the case, I've discovered some minutes ago, there is the Debian default 'apt-build' for this purpose, but I don't know how to compile any package through it, even don't know if there is an official Debian repository for source codes tested and approved by Debian Project
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23:39<R4F_Debian>I would like to know if there is anyone experienced on apt-build Debian tool for compiling source codes, since there are some parameters I'm doubt to save in /etc/apt/apt-build.conf
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23:51<k-man>is it possible to mount an iphone with iOS 9.3.1? the instructions on the wiki seem somewhat outdated
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