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00:00<vortek>k-man when i plug my nexuis in a its automatiicly mounted , i use fikw manager
00:00<vortek>fikw=file
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00:47<grawity>yeah, gvfs-backends should do both MTP and AFC
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00:51<R4F_Debian>Hi all, how do I find source codes available for compiling in Debian through 'apt-build' tool ?
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00:56<jm_>!deb-src
00:56<dpkg>'deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ [wheezy|squeeze|jessie|stretch|sid] main contrib non-free' (for example), replace with your own for a local mirror. Ask me about <source> for some information about how to build stuff, make sure the "build-essential" package is installed. You might need to have linux-headers-$(uname -r) (if using a Debian kernel) and the libc6-dev packages installed.
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00:59<vortek>whats a good anti malware anti virus fur debian?
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01:03<somiaj>vortek: you dno't really need one? Or are you wanting to scann stuff that is going to be delivered toa windows machien?
01:04<vortek>i just want to be safe from rootkits and specific types of malware
01:04<vortek>theres like 10 linux virus scanners
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01:06<R4F_Debian>Hi jm_, that's the problem, see my sources.list, please, for you to have any idea about my doubt: http://paste.debian.net/684323/
01:08<R4F_Debian>although I have 4 different src repositories, I can't get any source code to compile in Debian through native 'apt-build'. It should a good idea if I had any place in Debian site to check which source codes are available for Debian
01:08<jm_>R4F_Debian: all packages that are available have a corresponding source package
01:08<R4F_Debian>you mean, all the packages available in Debian Stable Repository ?
01:09<jm_>security doesn't carry source packages
01:09<jm_>it's not limited to stable release only
01:10<R4F_Debian>oh I see, in fact, not only stable releases. But, for example, how do I find vlc source code in Debian repositories to compile this application ?
01:11<R4F_Debian>I just would like to have some few and simple examples to start using 'apt-build', for it is going to be useful in future packaging in Debian Jessie
01:11<jm_>apt-get source vlc
01:11<themill>security.d.o repos have source packages too
01:12<R4F_Debian>jm_, through this command you've passed me here, I can find the specified source code ?
01:12<jm_>R4F_Debian: yes
01:12<jm_>indeed you are right, I checked and it does have source packages, no idea where this came from
01:12<somiaj>vortek: what sort of software do you run? If you run debian stable and stay up on security updates you should be safe from the known security exploits. After that just don't services you don't need to be running (i.e. just don't install them)
01:12<R4F_Debian>Great ! Quite simple, but I didn't remember this command, for never used it
01:12<somiaj>vortek: but you can use apt-cache search, debian contains various rootkit hunters
01:13<R4F_Debian>Hi themill, nice to see you here !
01:13<jm_>R4F_Debian: you can also look on PTS page for each package
01:13<R4F_Debian>sorry, jm_, please, what is PTS ?
01:13<jm_>R4F_Debian: https://tracker.debian.org/
01:14<vortek>somiaj: thanxs :D
01:14<awwwal>chkrootkit rkhunter
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01:15<R4F_Debian>Great, jm_, it's more clear for me now about this theme ! Really Thanks !
01:16<R4F_Debian>By the way, I could fix that problem related to ipv6 disabling in my Debian here, thank you very much for Great Support !
01:16<R4F_Debian>Thanks a lot for that help, jm_ !
01:17<jm_>well yeah the general solution would be to disable ipv6 in the kernel (blacklist ipv6 module)
01:18<awwwal>somiaj, running a pure debian system witout any 3d party software, anti malware software is really inutile, you dont think so?
01:19<R4F_Debian> your actions gave me a light to fix that issue. After, when was less tired, could fix that issue completely
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01:23<R4F_Debian>jm_ thanks for you attention (as always) and Great Support. Glad to see you again after my last Debian trouble ?
01:24<R4F_Debian>.....after my last Debian trouble ! Thank you very much !
01:24<R4F_Debian>I have to go now, have you a good rest, jm_ ! See you soon !
01:24<R4F_Debian>Bye all !
01:24<awwwal>ubuntu (and its web relays) is the only gnu-linux its wiki , software center ... promoting anti malware software for comercial reasons
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01:25<awwwal>via its wikis ... ^
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01:31<somiaj>awwwal: I trust debian to not give me malware, so I would say yes.
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01:59<matt__>is there a good package to comment on pdf available in the main repo?
02:00<matt__>i see there are tricks to install acrobat reader but i may as well avoid it if possible :)
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02:05<jm_>when I had to edit PDF document I used scribus (the version in jessie didn't quite work though)
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02:21<awwwal>matt__, i use pdftk and its gtk frontend pdfchain
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02:22<matt__>great thank you, i'll try that
02:22<anonymous>_
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02:23<awwwal> nice tool for work pdf files, but not sure now about commenting
02:23<anonymous>Games_
02:24<matt__>another question: i'm trying to prevent a service to autostart at boot
02:25<matt__>my understanding was to remove it from /etc/init/rcX.d
02:25<matt__>but that does not seem to d othe trick
02:25<matt__>-init
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02:26<matt__>is there a way to see the list of all services that will be run at boot?
02:26<matt__>service --status-all just show the current status
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02:27<anonymous>good I'm new here my name tencion'm trying .. curiosity any recommendations I should know
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02:29<jm_>matt__: for systemd you want to disable or mask it I believe
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02:31<jm_>'systemctl list-units --all' shall show you all of them
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02:31<awwwal>systemctl --all then systemctl disable foo.service
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02:32<matt__>thank you!
02:32<awwwal>man systemctl
02:33<matt__>i was confused by my online reading which seemed to say that i shold be using either service or systemctl
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04:05<danlii>This is in no way debian specific, but I'm sure there are some sharp minds here that perhaps could help. I have a situation with three separate networks, two of which are non-internet connected, and no routing in between the three at all. Some servers, however, are multi-homed, and have interfaces on all three networks. Since all three use separate DNS servers but the same domain, it creates problems with dns resolution, as we have to choose one of the
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04:06<danlii>Does anyone have a nifty solution for that fun problem? :)
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05:19<cool>what is 10 + 10
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05:21<cool>sewkhvf
05:21<cool>fh.g
05:21<cool>lt
05:21<cool>ylyp
05:21<cool>oh;6hyt
05:21<cool>h;yt;
05:21<cool>h.ty
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05:33<dutchfish>dandersson, since recursion is probably setup the right way, the only thing left is to setup one of those to be authauritive for your own zones and setup up replication for the authauritive one to the slaves. It need sproper firewall setup no doubt.
05:33<dutchfish>oops that was for danli
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10:44<Nocebo>Whats a good video editing software? Im pretty new at this and i downloaded Avidemux but cant figure out how to open it. I saw files for mac and windows, but none for linux. But, for all i know, im just not clicking the right thing.
10:45<Nocebo>Hell, this might not even be the right place to ask, ha.
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10:45<duclicsic>Nocebo: you can install avidemux through apt
10:45<duclicsic>apt-get install avidemux
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10:45<mrbjungle>hello
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10:46<duclicsic>hmm, I might be wrong actually, maybe that's coming from some other repo i've added.
10:46<Nocebo>duclicsic Ive got it, but theres no executable file (that i can find, at least)
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10:47<duclicsic>Nocebo: where did you download it?
10:47<rektide>where does a utility like fdisk or parted learn of the cylinders/sectors/heads of the drive? is hardware reporting that? even for something like an sd-card?
10:47<Nocebo>The Avidemux website. Gonna uninstall it and go the apt-get
10:47<rektide>that's not embedded in the partition table, something one can destory, is it?
10:47<duclicsic>Nocebo: as I said, I might be wrong. it doesn't look to exist in the normal repos for Jessie.
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10:48<duclicsic>Nocebo: if you downloaded it directly from their site, you have a source package
10:49<duclicsic>the download information for debian instructs you to add the deb-multimedia repositories
10:49<Nocebo>apt-get comes back with "E: Invalid operation avidemux". Honestly, Im pretty clueless to all of this.
10:50<duclicsic>Nocebo: you omitted the "install"
10:50<duclicsic>but as i said again, it looks like i was wrong, it's not in the normal package repositories for jessie
10:51<duclicsic>you have to either compile it from the source code available on the avidemux site, or you add the deb-multimedia repositories as instructed on their site, then use apt to install it
10:51<Nocebo>Alright I just started the download through apt-get. is the deb-multimedia rep something i download from their website?
10:52<duclicsic>you don't "download" a repository. you tell apt about it, so that it can retrieve packages from it
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10:52<duclicsic>what do you mean "I just started the download through apt-get" ?
10:52<duclicsic>what command did you run?
10:53<Nocebo>I downloaded avidemux- "sudo apt-get install avidemux"
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10:53<JordiGH>Why is zfs going into contrib? It doesn't depend on non-free software.
10:53<JordiGH>... does it?
10:54<duclicsic>Nocebo: are you running debian 8 (Jessie) ?
10:55<JordiGH>Or is it in contrib because it's source-only?
10:55<Nocebo>duclicsic: How do tell apt to retrieve the packages? and I have no clue honestly. Running Backbox distro is pretty much all I know at the moment.
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10:56<duclicsic>Nocebo: you are in the support channel for the current stable release of Debian, we don't support any other distros here
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13:05<magnunor>I'm having some problems with a package, and I'm not certain if it is due to me missing something, or there is something wrong with the package.
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13:07<mtn>!ask
13:07<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:08<magnunor>hehe, good point. Anyway, this is the package: https://packages.debian.org/source/stretch/arrayfire I'm on testing
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13:09<magnunor>So basically, I install the all the sub-packages libarrayfire*, but it doesn't seem to actually include the library itself. Just all the header files
13:09<beelzy>I have sound problems. I'm using gNewSense 4, which is Debian Wheezy without the non free blobs. I get some sort of output in Pavucontrol, so it recognizes my sound card. I just don't hear anything. No, it's not muted.
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13:10<mtn>magnunor: well, you should go to the correct channel for testing support. read the topic
13:10<XxNemoXx>my freind hate you guys
13:10<magnunor>ah, ok. Thanks
13:11<mtn>beelzy: only debian is supported in this channel. use your oses channel or support page
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13:11<beelzy>And this happened after I upgraded recently. Sound was working before that.
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13:11<beelzy>Well I consider gNewSense similar enough to Debian that I figured someone might be able to help.
13:11<sypher>beelzy: Similar enough != Debian.
13:11<mtn>beelzy: nope, not supported in this channel
13:11<beelzy>Besides, gNewSense doesn't have a lot of support.
13:11<retrospectacus>you should install Debian
13:12<XxNemoXx>no
13:12<beelzy>I tend to find most of the troubleshooting help I get for Debian on Stackoverflow and elsewhere appears to work. Except I didn't find anything for my problem this time.
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13:12<retrospectacus>XxNemoXx: do you have a Debian support question?
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13:14<XxNemoXx>No
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13:15<XxNemoXx>I hate DEBIAN SUBSCRIBE TO BOYBEARPIG
13:15<beelzy>Guess maybe I shouldn't have mentioned gNewSense then. But I hate lying.
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13:16<CutMeOwnThroat>that's ok, we hate about trying to debug a problem for 2h only to find out we're getting no-where because it's not debian
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13:18<beelzy>Well I could try the gNewSense channel. But most likely what will happen is no one will be there because it's such a not so well known distro that there probably aren't that many people working on it.
13:18<XxNemoXx>
13:18<sney>!they don't know
13:18<dpkg>We're sorry your distro's channel isn't being helpful, but that doesn't make it appropriate to use #debian for non-Debian questions. Please go back to your channel and wait patiently for better help, or install Debian and party with us.
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13:19<beelzy>It's not so different.
13:19<mtn>stubborn
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13:20<beelzy>Well I told you the truth. I used a Debian like distro that just doesn't have the nonfree blobs. There's really nothing you can tell me about sound issues?
13:20<mtn>beelzy: what part of "not supported" don't you understand?
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13:20<beelzy>You're making this out to be more black and white than I understand it. Please explain.
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13:21<beelzy>It's not like you have this on-off switch where some other distro doesn't apply at all just because it's not Debian.
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13:21<mtn>now you are just trolling
13:21<beelzy>Well could you just explain it? I think I'm missing something here.
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13:21<XxNemoXx># TROLL ALERT!
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13:22<beelzy>Why is it that I can find some suggestions on Stackoverflow about Debian that work for my distro, but you can't help at all just because it's not exactly 100% Debian?
13:22<R4F_Debian>Better party Debian with Debian Channel, beelzy. Debian is always the Best choiche for majority of newbies who know it
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13:22<beelzy>Oh, so this is a branding issue, and you're just choosing to be unhelpful.
13:23<R4F_Debian>This channel provides Debian Support, beelzy. That doesn't make sense trying to get Support for other distros here
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13:23<beelzy>Even if they're based off of Debian?
13:23<XxNemoXx>How do i install debian
13:23<beelzy>Or maybe only slightly different?
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13:24<XxNemoXx>How Do i Install debian
13:24<mtn>beelzy: it is simply a choice/rule. this is for debian, and nothing else.
13:24<beelzy>Well then is there a channel for Debian like distros?
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13:24<R4F_Debian>although more than 120 distros are based on Debian, they arent't Debian
13:24<XxNemoXx>//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////????
13:24<mtn>beelzy: sure, lots of them. try ##linux on the freenode server. also, google is a good source of general info ;)
13:24<XxNemoXx>???????
13:24<jmcnaught>beelzy: you could install Debian and not enable the contrib and non-free repos, then you have no firmware blobs and are using a more mainstream disto with better support options. otherwise you could try ##linux on freenode
13:25<beelzy>I already went the "Google" route. That's why I'm here.
13:25<XxNemoXx>How DO i instrall debian
13:25<mtn>beelzy: then you already know about ##linux. off you go!
13:25<jmcnaught>XxNemoXx: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual
13:25<sney>XxNemoXx: www.debian.org, iso download link is in the top right corner, follow prompts
13:26<XxNemoXx>I do not need 2 people telling me
13:26<beelzy>Well then I'll just try the #linux channel. To be honest, the whole prospect of reinstalling the entire distro is not feasible for lacking portable hardware reasons, and I just spent all that time setting up and configuring an upgrade. It's the last thing I want to try. Anyways, I'm off.
13:26<XxNemoXx>1 person
13:26<sney>erm, sorry? irc asynchronous
13:26<XxNemoXx>
13:26<XxNemoXx>beelzy
13:26*mtn loves trolls
13:27<XxNemoXx>
13:27<XxNemoXx>why
13:27<sypher>Ahh, ignore.
13:27<XxNemoXx>Ignore u
13:27<XxNemoXx>:0
13:28<sney>I get why a new user would think that it'd be reasonable to look upstream for support of their derivatives and I feel bad about sending them away sometimes, but we just don't know how modified it is and what kind of discrepancies that can cause with support. :/
13:28<sney>at least the bigger derivatives make a point to have their own resources
13:28<XxNemoXx>
13:28<XxNemoXx>v
13:28<XxNemoXx>v
13:28<XxNemoXx>v
13:28<XxNemoXx>v
13:28<XxNemoXx>v
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13:28-!-XxNemoXx was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
13:28<sney>finally
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13:29<beelzy>Thanks for explaining. I had assumed people would be okay if it was only a bit different, but maybe that would require you to be familiar with gNewSense, and if there are about 120 distros based off of Debian, then that doesn't seem feasible.
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13:30<sney>beelzy: exactly, it would require us to know all the little differences.
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13:30<R4F_Debian>Hi all, I download the source code for amarok and I would like to compile it, configure it and install it through 'apt-build', the native Debian tool for compilation. Do I have to use 'apt-build' as root or as normal user ? My user is r4fkramer
13:30<jmlongo>that's why I always check how big/active is a distro comunity before going trhough all the hassle of installing it and all :/
13:31<mtn>beelzy: 2/3 of all distros are based on debian. maybe you should use the read deal?
13:31<mtn>real deal
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13:31<Encrypt>Hello guys o/
13:32<R4F_Debian>Debian GNU/Linux is Unique and Fascinating, and People here provide a Really Professional Support, beelzy
13:32<beelzy>I use it at work in a VM. I picked gNewSense because it was marketed as "free" by FSF. I didn't consider that the lack of support would come back to bite me.
13:32<Encrypt>I have a strange problem with APT which is driving me crazy
13:32<Encrypt>It can not fetch: https://pkg.tox.chat/debian/dists/nightly/jessie/binary-amd64/Packages
13:32<Encrypt>However, wget works on this file
13:33<Encrypt>And other files from the same server are successfully retrieved
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13:33<Encrypt>Here are the logs: http://pastebin.com/4GRZYNUs
13:33<Encrypt>Would you have an idea for me? :S
13:35<Encrypt>I am really confused about why this is happening
13:36<towo`>that's not a question for this chan
13:36<towo`>it's not a debian problem
13:36<sney>R4F_Debian: apt-build is not really an official package building tool. you want to use dpkg-buildpackage and/or debuild in almost all cases. read http://deb.li/QYyI and http://deb.li/3DiDA
13:36<towo`>don't use 3rd party repos or address bugs to them itself
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13:36<Encrypt>towo`, Ok... :/
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13:37<sney>Encrypt: what towo` means is that people who host 3rd party repos need to support them themselves. so go back to tox.net and hopefully they can help you, if you need to use it
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13:38<Encrypt>sney, But I'm confused because the file actually exists and is downdloadable
13:38<sney>same answer.
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13:40<Guest1055>olá
13:41<sney>!br
13:41<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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13:41<Guest1055>ok, tanks!
13:42<R4F_Debian>Hi sney, thanks for help, I was wrong about 'apt-build' so.
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13:46<R4F_Debian>sney, Please, just to understand why can I get these unmet dependencies for amarok (I will focuse in the article you have passed me, thanks !), just to finish this chapter, how can I solve this dependencies problem ? http://paste.debian.net/685554/
13:46<sney>did you run 'apt-get build-dep amarok' ?
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13:48<R4F_Debian>no sney, I will use this resource you told me as default for compiling here, but I just would like to finish this task here with 'apt-build', before giving it up. I used 'apt-build' to trying compiling amarok - http://paste.debian.net/685554/
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13:49<R4F_Debian>in this specific case, Please, how should I fix this dependencies problem, related to amarok source ?
13:49<sney>R4F_Debian: yes, I see your paste. But you need to run 'apt-get build-dep amarok' in order to install the build dependencies. that's what it does.
13:49<R4F_Debian>Opening http://deb.li/QYyI
13:50<R4F_Debian>oh, ok so !
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13:56<R4F_Debian>sney, Please, have a look on this paste: http://paste.debian.net/685575/ - tried to satisfy amarok dependencies, and installed 'libgpod4-nogtk', but it has happened this situation
13:57<sney>,checkbackport amarok
13:57<judd>Backporting package amarok in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, virtual.
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13:58<sney>R4F_Debian: with build dependencies the only packages that matter are the ones that end in -dev. so if it depends on libgpod-nogtk then what you want is libgpod-nogtk-dev etc
13:59<sney>R4F_Debian: again, the command "apt-get build-dep amarok" will resolve this for you automatically. if it doesn't, please pastebin the output of "apt-get build-dep amarok"
13:59<R4F_Debian>I see, it's a bit confusing for me here, but I will try to fix this issue
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14:01<R4F_Debian>I used 'apt-get build-dep amarok, but there was two dependencies here that I installed with 'apt-get install', then there was the message I showed you that banshee, clementine, etc, should be removed
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14:03<R4F_Debian>well, in fact, clementine, banshee, and rhythmbox-plugins were uninstalled ! Well, I didn't want to pay for this price just to compile amarok ! That doesn't make sense for me !
14:03<retrospectacus>R4F_Debian: that kind of statement is not very useful. Just copy and paste your entire terminal session to paste.debian.net
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14:03<sney>stop telling us what happened and show us.
14:04<R4F_Debian>Hi retrospectacus, thanks for hint
14:04<retrospectacus>anytime :)
14:04<R4F_Debian>I think I have already showed it through debian paste
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14:05<retrospectacus>I saw only a small piece of output.
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14:06<R4F_Debian>sney, I will apply retrospectacus suggestion and paste the whole process, here you are, Please: http://paste.debian.net/685586/
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14:10<sney>ok, so libgpod4-nogtk conflicted with something in the banshee dependency chain. that happens sometimes.
14:10<R4F_Debian>yes, so I won't compile amarok anymore and try it through binary option
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14:11*sney shrug
14:11<sney>you were on your way to making it work.
14:12<sney>sometimes there are conflicts, multiple steps etc, this is normal
14:12<retrospectacus>R4F_Debian: whatever the command was that you ran before this paste output (which should have been included in the paste...) - try it again
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14:14<R4F_Debian>sney, after that, I was told to use 'apt-get autoremove' to delete some packages. Are they related to recent deleted applications, clementine, rhythmbox-plugins and banshee ? http://paste.debian.net/685588/
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14:15<R4F_Debian>I will try to start again, but from the beginning, retrospectacus, for now I've lost the logical sequence for this compilation process
14:15<R4F_Debian>Now, I need an aspirin here
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14:16<R4F_Debian>Thanks for Great Support and Attention, as always I can expect from yours, sney and retrospectacus !
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14:18<sney>R4F_Debian: 'apt-get autoremove' is always a suggestion, you are not required to do it, it's unrelated to solving dependencies
14:19<R4F_Debian>I see
14:19<retrospectacus>it was relating to the removal of clementine and banshee, yes
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14:20<retrospectacus>forget that for now (but remember what sney said for the future - doing autoremove can sometimes be a really bad idea)
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14:22<R4F_Debian>not very clear for me yet, retrospectacus, whenever 'apt-get autoremove' suggestion appears, so it hasn't to be applied ?
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14:24<retrospectacus>it is just a suggestion
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14:26<retrospectacus>bbl
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14:28<Eze>hola
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14:29<Eze>hola
14:29<Marcianito>Hola, Giorgio.
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14:29<Eze>muy buenas guapisimos aqui vegeta777
14:29<sney>!es
14:29<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
14:30<PC2>Sex?
14:30<Eze>muy buenas criaturitas del señor
14:30<tu>pls pussy pls
14:30<sney>!ops multiple users from 186.60.171.155
14:30<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: sney complains about: multiple users from 186.60.171.155
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14:31<sney>also Eze and Marcianito but they are quieted anyway
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14:31<@babilen>ta
14:31<sypher>da
14:31<sney>np
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14:35<R4F_Debian>I'd never this this happening here before, sney
14:35<R4F_Debian>sorry, correcting here: I had never see this happening here before, sney
14:35<sney>ok
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14:35<R4F_Debian>I had never seen this happening here before, lots of invaders
14:36<blast007>R4F_Debian: then you haven't been on IRC channels much ;)
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14:37<R4F_Debian>Hi blast007, nice to see you again ! That was the first time here, in this channel, blast007
14:37<musca>usually not worth to think about, just ignore them
14:37<R4F_Debian>yeah, musca, you are right
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14:50<carlos>hola
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14:59<R4F_Debian>carlos, english here, please
15:00<R4F_Debian>This channel provides Support for Debian only using english language
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15:11<somiaj>R4F_Debian: typing '!es' will get dpkg bot to say that in spansh and direct them to a spansh speaking channel
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15:44<R4F_Debian>oh, I am back here: thanks for suggestion, somiaj !
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16:51<frlttrwrd>is there any audio player that remembers both the position in a file (like smplayer) and the position in a playlist when quitting and restarting? or any other good solution for binge-listening a podcast or audio book?
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17:14<whitephoenix>I'm trying to install debian in a VM using the firmware-stretch-DI-alpha5-amd64-netinst iso, but the "Select and install software" step keeps failing, and the installer doesn't give me any info, what should I do? I have many other vms that work fine
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17:15<jmcnaught>!testing installer
17:15<dpkg>Repeat after me: the testing installer is for testing the <installer>, not for installing <testing>. To install testing, do a minimal installation using the <stable> installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Installer bugs should be filed against the debian-installer pseudopackage. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
17:16<jmcnaught>whitephoenix: ^^^ also testing support is in #debian-next, this is the stable channel :)
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17:16<whitephoenix>alright thanks
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17:39<Encrypt>sney, Hello again
17:39<Encrypt>sney, So, after having spent hours on my problem... I had to install ca-certificates to make apt-get update work...
17:39<Encrypt>Problem solved.
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17:59<dioz>nice cert install
18:00<R4F_Debian>Hi all, I was told to use 'apt-get build-dep' to compile packages in Debian. I would like to certificate if this is the correct/complete Debian way for compilation: http://paste.debian.net/685939/
18:01<R4F_Debian>Although application is running fine, and my Debian as a whole is nice, fast and stable, not sure yet if I've done it correctly. Please, hope anyone check this for me, Thanks anyway !
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18:03<oirasor>Hi! I have problems with nfs-common installation, maybe rpcbind is the culprit but I don't know how figure it out. ----->http://pastebin.com/vGExrsk1 Thank you in advance!
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18:07<retrospectacus>R4F_Debian: yes. However this is not any different than "apt-get install amule"
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18:09<retrospectacus>R4F_Debian: unless you are performing a backport, in which case the instruction should also include step 1; see https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#backport
18:10<retrospectacus>oirasor: the error output you linked includes instruction on how to (perhaps) figure it out
18:11<R4F_Debian>I see, retrospectacus, thanks for hint. By the way, if I compile any application, instead of just installing the corresponding binary package, is there any advantage on the system stability. Does it make it more lightweight ?
18:11<retrospectacus>no
18:12<retrospectacus>you could change compilation options to (possibly) make it "lightweight" but this is a waste of time in my opinion
18:13<retrospectacus>see <diminishing returns on bogomips>
18:13<R4F_Debian>personally speaking, according your Debian Administrator experience, isn't there any advantage to compile any package which is already available as binary package in the Official-Stable Debian repositories ?
18:14<R4F_Debian>Please, retrospectacus, give me your commentary about this
18:14<oirasor>retrospectacus: seriously? I am sorry, I'm a sort of newbie with nfs configuration, could you tell me on what shoud I focus to solve it quickly? Thanks.
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18:15<neophobia-irc>hello all
18:15<retrospectacus>oirasor: read your paste - it says "see ... for details", no?
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18:16<retrospectacus>R4F_Debian: the only reason would be to enable some feature that the debian maintainers didn't compile in for some reason (usually non-free-ness)
18:17<R4F_Debian>I see, retrospectacus. Well, thanks for your analysis for it helps me to build a more clear and technical point of view about the Marvellous Debian GNU/Linux OS !
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18:18<oirasor>retrospectacus: OK, I forget about it, because I read it earlier, but now could be helpful... this is it ===> http://pastebin.com/qu164C3g
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18:19<neophobia-irc>Any idea of when the next upload of texlive-latex-extra-doc is comming in unstable it has been breaking my upgrade process for like 5 days now, Aparently the fix is in git but it's not uploaded yet
18:20<neophobia-irc>or should i just build and install it myself
18:22<retrospectacus>oirasor: looks related to bug 740491
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18:27<neophobia-irc>if i could find the git for this packaged i would install and build it myself lol
18:28<retrospectacus>neophobia-irc: unstable support is in #debian-next
18:28<neophobia-irc>oh
18:30<R4F_Debian> Bye retrospectacus, nice to see you again. Thanks again for hints and Support ! See you !
18:30<R4F_Debian>Bye all !
18:30<retrospectacus>np
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18:34<oirasor>retrospectacus: whoa! Thank you very much! I did " service rpcbind stop ; rm /run/rpcbind/* ; service rpcbind stop " and now everything works! Shouldn't be a troubleshooting filled with this command on nfs page of Debian wiki?
18:35<retrospectacus>it's the first time I've seen this, but sure, it couldn't hurt to make a note there
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18:47<oirasor>retrospectacus: yes, but maybe I say victory too quickly, after I installed nfs-kernel-server and set /etc/exports, when I run showmount -a, it said "clnt_create: RPC: Program not registered"
18:49<oirasor>retrospectacus: I ran "service rpcbind start" because I stopped initially to install nfs-common
18:50<oirasor>retrospectacus: If I stop rpcbind.service, showmount -a says "clnt_create: RPC: Port mapper failure - Unable to receive: errno 111 (Connection refused)"
18:51<oirasor>If rpcbind is enabled it says "clnt_create: RPC: Program not registered"
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19:14<diefi>I have a problem, a few days ago, I tied to rebuild vlc backport, and just build the same one again. I installed the rebuild one anyways. So know I get offered to download and install the same packages, but they don't succeed. Question is why is it happening and what should I do to make the update process go through.
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22:53<R4F_Debian>Hi all, I got a good experience here with 'build-dep amule' and Precious Help and Support provided by Debian channel here. Now, I just would like if it's possible for example, a safe and official Debian way for you download any source code from any application you want, by 3rd part and backport it to a .deb package compiled and able to be installed safely
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22:55<sney>depending on the quality you want, either follow the packaging tutorial I gave you earlier, or use checkinstall
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22:55<R4F_Debian>oh, sorry sney, because of hard working here in my job, I haven't had time to read it yet !
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22:56<sney>you are basically asking how debian packages are made
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22:56<sney>there is a process. it's quick once you get used to it, but it is not completely automatic.
22:56<R4F_Debian>yes, sney, you are right
22:57<R4F_Debian>sney, to work in Debian packaging, do you need to become an Official Debian User, no ?
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22:58<sney>R4F_Debian: https://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers this explains the process. but basically, normal users like you or me can have packages included in debian if we have a sponsor upload them
22:59<sney>once you have had a series of good quality trusted uploads without much assistance, you can apply to get limited permission to upload them yourself
22:59<sney>and from then on follow the procedure to be a Debian Developer if that's something you want to do.
22:59<R4F_Debian>well, you don't seem me a so normal user for me, lol But, the question is: I have been helped a lot by all of yours, but in soon future, and I am be able for it, I want to contribute to Debian Project as a Developer. That is my Personal Dream
23:00<sney>groovy.
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23:01<R4F_Debian>sorry, sney, what does 'groovy' mean ?
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23:02<sney>it's just positive slang, it means it's a good thing you're doing
23:02<sney>#debian-mentors is the official channel for help learning to package software and get it included in debian
23:02<R4F_Debian>oh, I see ! Thanks !
23:02<R4F_Debian>it is from OFTC also ?
23:02<R4F_Debian>or freenode... ?
23:02<sney>it's on oftc
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23:03<R4F_Debian>oh, Great, I will visit them also ! Thanks Dear sney, My Brother in Debian ! :)
23:03<sney>np
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23:05<brianbruggeman>Hi all. I'm trying to connect to an EC2 instance using vagrant and I'm having trouble. If this is the right channel, can anyone identify what the settings are for the username and the ami-id on us-west2? I'm using ami-59799439 and admin, but I seem to be hanging
23:06<sney>brianbruggeman: sorry, wrong channel
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23:07<sney>debian does create some images afaik but auth stuff will still be down to amazon's support
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23:14<liger>hello
23:18<R4F_Debian>Hello liger
23:19<R4F_Debian>Bye sney, Nice to see you again ! Hope see you again soon !
23:19<R4F_Debian>Bye all !
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23:19<liger>I have a question,which the difference between apt-get and aptitude?For example,apt-get install compare with aptitude install?
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23:21<liger>bye R4F
23:21<sney>liger: different dependency solvers. most of the time, the result will be exactly the same. but aptitude is more "clever" so it can resolve problems where you have conflicts etc
23:22<dioz>doesn't aptitude have a kind of terminal gui ?
23:22<sney>it has that too but it doesn't show up with 'aptitude install packagename'
23:23<dioz>true
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23:26<liger>oh,i see it,thus not totally understood,but thank you
23:26<dioz>not totally understood?
23:26<dioz>there's pretty comprehensive lists of differences if you do a google search
23:27<sney>(in english, anyway)
23:28<liger>you know ,in some place on the earth,you are unable to access google.
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23:56<joules>hi..
23:57<joules>somebody can help me .. ?
23:57<dioz>depend
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