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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-05-22

---Logopened Sun May 22 00:00:00 2016
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00:21<KaranDivider>Hello
00:22<KaranDivider>No hello, Good bye
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00:45<_44trent>so, i don't know if this is the right place to ask, but i got suse imagewriter for debian and it can't find libQtDbus.so.4
00:45<_44trent>however, i don't know if i'll get much help because it was an rpm file i converted in alien to get it to install
00:46<_44trent>but it's a Qt library that is in debian, so maybe i can get help
00:47<_44trent>everything installed fine, but it can't find that one qt lib, and I do have Qt installed
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00:50<jmcnaught>,file libQtDBus.so.4
00:50<judd>Search for libQtDBus.so.4 in jessie/amd64: libqtdbus4: usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtDBus.so.4
00:50<jmcnaught>_44trent: ^^ that's the package it's in. you can also do searches like this with apt-file on your system, or on http://packages.debian.org
00:51<_44trent>thanks
00:51<jmcnaught>_44trent: how much software are you installing with alien converted packages? it's not the kind of thing you want to do lots of
00:51<_44trent>well, i've only done it with one in the last 2 weeks
00:51<_44trent>which is well...the suse image writer
00:52<_44trent>i'm not actually using it to go to openSUSE or anything, but dd only does efi for me
00:52<_44trent>and i'm on mbr, and i kind of need to boot a USB drive with something compatible with my mobo
00:52<_44trent>it's completely legacy, it's an HP compaq from 2006
00:52<jmcnaught>that's strange. are you copying a debian image?
00:53<jmcnaught>you can use "cp" by the way, instead of dd.
00:53<_44trent>yeah, that is pretty strange
00:54<jmcnaught>_44trent: are you making sure to copy the hybrid image to the device, not a partition?
00:54<_44trent>i'm putting in /dev/sdb
00:54<_44trent>no number after it
00:54<jmcnaught>have you tried multiple usb sticks?
00:54<_44trent>yeah, same result
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00:56<jmcnaught>and it works on UEFI systems, but not on BIOS ones? This is a Debian image you're talking about?
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00:58<_44trent>yep
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02:06<jim>hi... got an epson usb scanner, v39, it looks like it's connected... what do I need?
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03:13<vortek>hey i got some spyware .. i installed avg anti virus, and now avg adware pops up on evry webpage i go to and pops up in youtube videos toom how can i remove this?
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07:54<scootergrisen>What are the recomended way to use software that is updated in apt-get?
07:55<scootergrisen>If i install SMTube its a old version that does no longer work.
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08:03<jcrain>,v smtube
08:03<judd>Package: smtube on amd64 -- jessie: 14.8.0-1; jessie-backports: 15.5.10-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 15.5.10-1; sid: 15.5.10-1
08:03<jcrain>jessie backports
08:04<jcrain>!jessie backports
08:04<dpkg>Selected packages intended for the Debian 9 "Stretch" release but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>.
08:04<jcrain>scootergrisen: ^^
08:05<scootergrisen>Yeah but wont i mess the system when using backports?
08:05<scootergrisen>Maybe i should just upgrade to stretch
08:06<scootergrisen>Is it normal in linux distributions that the stable version only offer older software?
08:06<musca>no, stretch is not recommended for you.
08:06<jcrain>backports are fine, but either way
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08:08<musca>scootergrisen: yesterday you have been told an excellent recipe to run a more recent debian branch in a chroot
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08:08<musca>[12:40:16] <scootergrisen> How?
08:08<musca>[12:40:21] <lindi-> scootergrisen: my solution is to use stable and then run unstable programs from a chroot. Tthat way I can keep them very well separated from each other
08:08<musca>[12:40:45] <lindi-> my recipe is http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/schroot.txt
08:09<scootergrisen>Yeah but i dont like to mess with the system running all kind for commands i dont know
08:09<musca>that's why stretch is not recommended for you.
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08:10<musca>!taoc
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08:12<musca>!taocli
08:12<dpkg>from memory, taocli is The Art of Command Line - a guide for both beginners and experienced to achieve fluency on the command line. https://github.com/jlevy/the-art-of-command-line
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08:38<antzero>Anybody know what is this? imgur.com/XK9iEcB
08:39<antzero>(the red icons)
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08:40<jcrain>antzero: I'd guess capslock, numlock, scroll lock?
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08:41<bruno_>ola a todos
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08:50<antzero>jcrain: what package shows these icons? I want to deactivate them
08:51<jcrain>antzero: what desktop are you using?
08:53<jcrain>i don't know, try right clicking on it to see if it can be turned off
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08:58<antzero>I'm on MATE (raspbian if helps), nothing happens on right-click
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09:15<jcrain>antzero: hard to tell when I don't know why it's running, I suspect lxpanenl, but then right clicking somewhere on the panel should give you options to customize. You might get better help in someplace specifically about raspbian.
09:15<jcrain>!raspbian
09:15<dpkg>Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/
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10:05<pi>tach
10:05<TeslasMHD>Moin
10:07<pi>wie installiert man ne Funktastatur von "Trust"?
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10:08<TeslasMHD>Das weiß ich leider nicht. :-)
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10:09<chomwitt>trying to use reportbug i get SMTP sent failure SMTP AUTH extension not recognized by server
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10:12<pi>ok... schaun wa ma... vllt. ist die Tastatur ja auch schrott...
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10:38<chomwitt>in debian 8 should i manage services with 'service start... ' or 'systemctl start ...' ?
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10:39<themill>either
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10:43<chomwitt>are they both from systemd?
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10:44<themill>service pushes the request off to systemd if you're using systemd
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10:47<chomwitt>i see . thanks
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13:02<nough>HU
13:02<nough>HI
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13:02<storge_>hi
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13:38<user_8575>allah is doing
13:38<user_8575>sun is not doing Allah is doing
13:38<user_8575>moon is not doing Allah is doing
13:39<user_8575>stars are not doing Allah is doing
13:39<storge_>allah is a fiction of the human mind
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13:39<user_8575>planets are not doing Allah is doing
13:39<user_8575>galaxies are not doing Allah is doing
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13:40<user_8575>oceans are not doing Allah is doing
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13:40<user_8575>mountains are not doing Allah is doing
13:41-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@61.7.186.176] has quit [Quit: If it wasn't written down, it didn't happen...]
13:41<C-Keen>does allah need help with the debian installation?
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13:43<user_8585>trees are not doing Allah is doing
13:43<user_8585>mom is not doing Allah is doing
13:44<user_8585>dad is not doing Allah is doing
13:44<user_8585>boss is not doing Allah is doing
13:44<user_8585>job is not doing Allah is doing
13:44<user_8585>dollar is not doing Allah is doing
13:44<user_8585>degree is not doing Allah is doing
13:44<storge>allah gets kicked for not doing linux troubleshooting
13:45<user_8585>medicine is not doing Allah is doing
13:45<user_8585>customers are not doing Allah is doing
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13:45<user_8585>you can not get a job without the permission of allah
13:46<user_8585>you can not get married without the permission of allah
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13:46<user_8585>nobody can get angry at you without the permission of allah
13:46<user_8585>light is not doing Allah is doing
13:46<mtn>!ops user_8585 spamming
13:46<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: mtn complains about: user_8585 spamming
13:46<user_8585>fan is not doing Allah is doing
13:47<user_8585>businessess are not doing Allah is doing
13:47<user_8585>america is not doing Allah is doing
13:47<user_8585>fire can not burn without the permission of allah
13:47<user_8585>knife can not cut without the permission of allah
13:48<jelly>op is doing
13:48<user_8585>rulers are not doing Allah is doing
13:48<user_8585>governments are not doing Allah is doing
13:48<user_8585>sleep is not doing Allah is doing
13:48<Sicelo>:-/
13:48-!-mode/#debian [+o jelly] by ChanServ
13:48-!-mode/#debian [+b user_8585!*@*] by jelly
13:48<Sicelo>thanks jelly ...
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13:50<GLolol>i lol'd
13:50<GLolol>please ban *!779db819@* since it looks like kiwiirc ips aren't resolving
13:50<GLolol>else they might come back under a different nick, who knows
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13:53<@jelly>that makes some sense
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14:13<themusicgod1>not really sure if this is the right place, but is there any policy reason why there isn't a switch in the (gnome/kde) network settings, if tor is installed, to enable an exit node, or is this functionality just not written?
14:13<themusicgod1>would this fall under 'that's gnome's responsibility' ?
14:14<themusicgod1>(you used to be able to configure this very easily with vidalia, but that's been replaced by onionmonitor which seems very read only by design, but even that was another program rather than part of the default settings)
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14:22<Guest1738>hello folks
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14:24<Guest1738>whats the matter here?
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14:26<Markus>Hello again
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14:37<jwagner21>Stupid question over here: I'm using NetworkManager on a box running XFCE. I have an 802.11 network with two APs. One is far away and has poor signal. The other is .5 meters away from the wireless NIC. NM keeps trying to connect to the distant one. In the past, I simply used iwconfig with the bssid argument and configured the device manually. I currently have the distant AP in configured in NM with a
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14:37<jwagner21>bogus password, to force it to fallback to the desired one. Is there a way to completely ignore a given BSSID in NetworkManager?
14:38<jwagner21>The bogus password method is working well enough to keep from falling off the Internet, but it forces a password prompt at user login, so it is not ideal.
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14:43<musca>jwagner21: "nmcli connection show" and "nmcli connection down <ID>"
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14:43<musca>Tab-completion ftw!
14:44<jwagner21>musca: Thanks. Will that persist between reboots/logins?
14:44<musca>I don't know
14:45<musca>I have only one connection ...
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14:46<jwagner21>I might wind up ripping out Network
14:46<jwagner21>Manager again.
14:47<jwagner21>In the meantime, I'll probably throw that into my .xinitrc or something.
14:47<jwagner21>Just got to wait 2 more weeks, then I'm back to only using cat5 for networking.
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15:37<msi>i anyone using opnebox in debian wheezy, stretch or sid around here?
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15:42<msi>well, here's what i'd like to know: if you're using the Debian menu inside your openbox menu, what does the respective entry in your menu.xml look like? is it "<menu id="Debian" />" or "<menu id="/Debian" />"?
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15:55<awwal>msi, I do use openbox. what's your problem?
15:56<msi>awwal: what's your debian distro?
15:56<msi>or release, i mean
15:57<msi>i'm trying to correct an error in the official openbox docs about implementing the debian menu into the ob menu (http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Menus#The_Debian_menu)
15:58<awwal>msi, unstable/stable
15:58<msi>as a mixture or seperate systems?
15:59<msi>well, do you see the problem in the openbox docs?
15:59<msi>i found out that the menu id has to be "/Debian" also in jessie
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16:00<awwal>msi, separated systems.
16:01<awwal>I use default install/config
16:02<msi>ok, can you paste the menu.xml file of your "unstable" install? and does unstable really mean "unstable" (sid)?
16:03<awwal>unstable I have <menu id="/Debian"/>
16:03<awwal>let me check jessie
16:03<msi>ok. thanks
16:04<msi>jessie should have the slash a well
16:05<msi>also, the openbox version in sid and testing is the same, so it should also apply to testing
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16:08<awwal>msi, sorry, I dont have yet a me.xml in /etc/xdg /openbox or in ~/.config/openbox
16:08<awwal>that menu isn't present by default. it's generated after runing obmenu, and I havent that pkg
16:08<msi>i'm on jessie. an without a slash it doesn't work
16:08<awwal>so I cant compare right now
16:09<msi>np
16:09<msi>thanks for the info on sid
16:09<awwal>give me a few minutes and I'll be back after installing obmenu and run it
16:09<msi>awwal: ok, if you'd like to do that, fine.
16:10<neophobia-irc>!mentors
16:10<dpkg>i heard mentors is the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net).
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16:13<awwal>msi, I was going to install, so doing it now :P
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16:17<awwal>msi, stable (jessie) also have <menu id="/Debian"/>
16:17<awwal>so as you said , openbox wiki is wrong :P
16:17<msi>alright
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16:18<msi>i'm writing them a message to give me write access. then i'll correct that.
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16:19<awwal>probably the wopenbox wiki entry is obsolete and maybe configs were differents in the past
16:19<awwal>no clue
16:21<msi>awwal: the page has last been edited in 2011. so that seems to be pretty much out of date
16:21<awwal>:)
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16:39<awwal>msi, menu files are progressively removed in debian system, replaced by .desktop file. I guess openbox devs have to do "something" about that ...
16:40<awwal>probably there will not be a menu at all with stretch xD
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16:46<msi>awwal: ok, good to know
16:47<awwal>not only openbox, but all WM's :P
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16:48<aamirm>Hello. My light went out when I was using Debian and now when I boot it, it drops to initramfs BusyBox shell with some error "unable to mount /dev/sda7 to /root: device does not exist".
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16:49<aamirm>Is there a way to rescue it without needing some sort of rescue CD/USB?
16:51<grawity>um, "/root"?
16:51<grawity>oh, wait, initramfs
16:51<grawity>makes sense then
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16:52<Celelibi>Can someone try this program with python2 and python3? http://stackoverflow.com/a/8610359/3314907
16:53<Celelibi>It doesn't work for me with python2.
16:53<grawity>which part doesn't?
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16:54<Celelibi>It doesn't draw a smiley face.
16:55<Grox1>hola
16:55<Grox1>:)
16:55<Celelibi>Actually the onDraw callback is never called.
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21:09<Bublik>i installed flash plugin and iceweasel works with flash but for some reason chromium does not. is there a way to fix this?
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22:39<pedro>hi
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22:59<neophobia-irc>hello
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22:59<neophobia-irc>is there any list for the names of devices in /dev
22:59<neophobia-irc>explaining what they link to
23:00<neophobia-irc>i know most of them but there are some weird ones
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23:10<neophobia-irc> ie what is port is that just another serial device if so why isn't it under ttyAMC* or something
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23:16<neophobia-irc>so confused
23:16<neophobia-irc>lo
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23:24<jmcnaught>neophobia-irc: some answers here: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/devices.txt
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