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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-05-26

---Logopened Thu May 26 00:00:18 2016
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00:14<keekri>Hey guys, my computer is showing a blue screen when I login, help please ?
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00:56<canaima>hola
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03:24<warden>Hello. The grub configuration for showing the boot log is systems.show=1
03:24<warden>?
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03:44<devnull>Hello. Anyone here?
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03:47<til>I installed Debian but it not install grub
03:48<jm_>!fixmbr
03:48<dpkg>To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
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03:51<til>Why no work by automatic?
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03:52<jm_>one situation we learned about is it doesn't seem to work with NVME drives, other than that, I don't know, check logs
03:52<til>i not want console
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03:53<til>What Debian distro will work?
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03:54<jm_>I have no idea what you are asking about
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03:54<til>Also KDE Live distro said me: idk update-grub
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03:55<til>Crappy debian not work i said
03:56<themill>Would you be happier asking in #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net)? Noone here understand what you are asking.
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03:56<til>only debian no wrok
03:56<til>Debian LIveCD no found command update-grub
03:56<til>And many other
03:57<til>How I should do it all from the Debian Live?
03:57<til>sucks
03:57<jm_>the same way as the above factoid says
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06:44<warden>Hello. I am wrote on /etc/grub/default the line systemd.show=1 so I can see the boot log
06:44<warden>I probably have syntax error
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06:44<warden>Can someone point the correct syntax?
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06:45<jm_>you mean kernel messages etc?
06:45<warden>Yes when I open the pc
06:46<warden>I appended it before quiet"
06:47<jm_>remove "quiet"
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06:47<warden>If I remove it will show the kernel messages on boot?
06:47<jm_>yes
06:47<warden>Ah thanks jm_
06:47<jm_>no problem
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06:48<warden>See you:)
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09:04<EmleyMoor>Is there a way to run VM setups that play in VMware Player on Windows, but in Debian instead?
09:05<duclicsic>vmware player is available for linux
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09:06<EmleyMoor>duclicsic: I thought it must be... but not found it yet
09:07<derka>you need VM Workstation right?
09:07<EmleyMoor>Er... do I? How do I tell?
09:08<EmleyMoor>Probably not actually
09:08<derka>https://my.vmware.com/fr/web/vmware/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_workstation/11_0
09:09<EmleyMoor>No, don't need Workstation
09:10<derka>VMWare Player is included
09:10<derka>;)
09:11<EmleyMoor>"included"?
09:11<derka>You can use both i mean
09:11<EmleyMoor>But I only need that one I mean.
09:11<derka>yes
09:12<derka>you must install Workstation anyway
09:16<EmleyMoor>I see - it's a bundle these days... just hope it's not too "new" for what I need it for.
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09:28<towo^work>derka, no
09:28<towo^work>vmware-player is a separate package
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09:29<towo^work>no need to ibnstall vmware-workstation
09:29<towo^work>https://my.vmware.com/en/web/vmware/free#desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_workstation_player/12_0
09:29<towo^work>that's the player only
09:31<elefantenn>EmleyMoor: I've had a working setup with an NTFS drive that had all my VM files. I was able to run the VMs in both LM and Windows when dualbooting.
09:31<elefantenn>I was using VMware Workstation, but Player should be no different.
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09:38<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... bloody package I bought it for doesn't match description anyway
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10:11<pinouDZ>hi plz help me
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10:12<pinouDZ>i hav a problem with my linux back box so when i switch to terminal my backlight reduce --
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10:19<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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11:48<scootergrisen>Are there any way for me to know when i specific version of a program (SMTube) will be available in Debian?
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11:50<retrospectacus>,v smtube
11:50<judd>Package: smtube on amd64 -- jessie: 14.8.0-1; jessie-backports: 15.5.10-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 15.5.10-1; sid: 15.5.10-1
11:51<retrospectacus>unless the answer is "now" (i.e. the version you want is listed above), then the answer is no
11:51<LeLutin>scootergrisen: you can search package names on https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages for current versions (same thing than the bot's output in the line above). as for when in the future a newer version will be available if sid is older than said version.. then it entirely depends on package managers
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11:52<scootergrisen>So i can ask the SMTube developer to update the package?
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11:52<scootergrisen>And the new SMTube version will come in stable jessie?
11:53<retrospectacus>no, the debian package maintainer (it could be the same person)
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11:53<retrospectacus>stable jessie will never get any new version of any package
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11:53<retrospectacus>new versions can be available in backports
11:53<scootergrisen>Hmmm then what is apt-get upgrade for?
11:54<scootergrisen>Sometimes i get new version of Iceweasel and stuff like that
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11:55<retrospectacus>security updates and some patches like that, you won't get full new versions (unless you have m.d.n or backports set up)
11:56<scootergrisen>Mkay. The reason is that SMTube dont work
11:56<retrospectacus>,i smtube
11:56<judd>Package smtube (video, optional) in jessie/amd64: YouTube videos browser. Version: 14.8.0-1; Size: 421.1k; Installed: 1402k; Homepage: http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/smtube.php; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/smtube
11:56<retrospectacus>yeah this would happen if Youtube changed their interface or system, which they do ofc
11:57<scootergrisen>The screenshot on http://screenshots.debian.net/package/smtube is the old version that does not work
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11:57<retrospectacus>if you have 14.8 then try 15.5.10 from backports
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11:58<scootergrisen>Can it be updated by the package manager if the program is broke? So i can update it in jessie normally without backports and stuff?
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11:59<retrospectacus>if you don't have backports, then the package manager won't know about any newer version
12:00<scootergrisen>Should the broken SMTube maybe be removed that?
12:01<retrospectacus>you can remove it from your system if you want
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12:07<retrospectacus>scootergrisen: there are directions on SMtube's webpage to install the latest version on Debian 8. Looks like they should work
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12:14<scootergrisen>Yeah ok but i'm thinking if the smtube package for jessie will never be updated and the program dont work should it not be removed?
12:15<retrospectacus>not likely
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12:18<scootergrisen>ok i got the new 16.3.0 now
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14:30<moade>hi
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14:31<retrospectacus>hi
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15:22<guardian>I have a noob question: I sent a message to a debian list, got a replied (sent to the list). But I didn't subscribe to the list :( How do I follow up?
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15:23<sney>all debian lists have archives that you can read online. if you are not subscribed to the list, you are recommended to have a "cc me for replies as I am not subscribed" or so note
15:23<guardian>ok so by now it's too late for me to reply properly?
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15:28<sney>you can find the next mail in the thread online, copy and paste it into your mua, reply to the correct parties and carry on your conversation
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15:43<safinaskar>why http.debian.net renamed to httpredir?
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15:44<sney>probably so it would be more clear that it was a redirector as opposed to an actual mirror
15:44<sney>but I think the http name was better, personally
15:44<babilen>dito
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15:44<babilen>cdn.debian.net even more so
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15:46<safinaskar>ok, thanks
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16:47<TEXM>Hello All
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18:28<german>hi
18:30<TEXM>german: Hi
18:31<german>what under /etc do i modifi to load nvidia module at startup ? I' ve added to gdm3 init script like modprobe nvidia and didnt worked
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18:31<german>modifi = modify
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18:32<TEXM>german: Sorry I am New to Debian myself. I saw a link on the NVIDIA Drivers, let me ss if I can find it for you....
18:32<german>i am using bumblebee
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18:32<TEXM>oh, I saw that mentioned also
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18:33<sney>german: make a .conf file in /etc/modprobe.d with the name of the module you want to load.
18:33<german>i have added to /etc/modules and didnt work too
18:34<sney>but if the module is not loading at boot then you probably have some other issue
18:34<sney>optimus sucks
18:34<german>may be something is unloading the module after is loaded
18:34<german>nop. manually i do modprobe nvidia and works
18:34<TEXM>german: see if this is of any help... https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
18:35<sney>TEXM, german : that link is not intended for bumblebee/optimus users
18:35<german>if i dont do that X gdm3 freez after asking for password
18:35<TEXM>sney: OK Thanks
18:35<german>i will
18:35<sney>german: those instructions are for people with discrete nvidia cards only
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18:36<sney>try the .conf in /etc/modprobe.d or even put the modprobe in /etc/rc.local - everything to do with optimus is a hack
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18:37*TEXM Makes a Note to himself....Do not Buy Anything NVIDIA Optimus....
18:37<german>sney: The module and X is working; but i have to do modprobe nvidia avery time i reboot
18:38<sney>ok, so use modprobe.d or rc.local
18:38<german>ah ok
18:39<german>sney: modprobe.d does need some script running after its being modified?
18:39<sney>[16:33:19] <sney> german: make a .conf file in /etc/modprobe.d with the name of the module you want to load.
18:39<sney>no you just reboot. if it was going in the initrd you would need to update that but it's not required right away
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19:07<german>sney it didnt work. bumblebee already has created some modules nvidia configurations. May be i can run it some other place. I some other script that has root permissions?
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19:08<german>In not I
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21:13<guy_>Safest way to recover from orphaned inodes in root partition?
21:13<guy_>ext4 file system
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