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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-05-27

---Logopened Fri May 27 00:00:33 2016
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00:36<jkyc>hello
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01:00<xubuntu>where i can find Remastersys for download
01:01<xubuntu>where i can find Remastersys for Download
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01:06<xubuntu>how to use Debian program in Xubuntu
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01:07<jm_>don't mix debian and ubuntu packages
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01:09<sbine>xubuntu: and why do you type double spaces between words?
01:10<sbine>Remastersys can be found on the first google request betware
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02:08<twb>When did apache2 a2enmod get -q and -m ?
02:09<twb>I can't see it in the debian changelog
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02:18<jm_>twb: looking at the git history -q is there since first git commit, and -m since https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-apache/apache2.git/commit/debian/a2enmod?id=5580b12d06e1969115bde674562252417253ec39
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02:19<twb>Thanks
02:20<twb>I got distracted before I found the git url
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05:52<scootergrisen>What subversion client would be a good choice on Debian when i dont know much about it?
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06:00<danielsh>scootergrisen, there's the official / standard cmdline client (package 'subversion'). There may be a client integrated with your IDE. And there are git-svn / hgsubversion, if you're familiar with git/hg already.
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06:06<KINgGh0sT>anyone know how to solve screen tearing on fglrx?
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06:07<backbox>hi gays
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06:09<scootergrisen>I'm not that farmilar and i dont have a IDE
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06:10<scootergrisen>There are some translations on https://www.assembla.com/spaces/olympusdkteam/subversion/source/HEAD/phpBB/trunk that i want to contribute to to improve the translation
06:11<valentin_>salut les salopes
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06:11<blanqu-a>Salut bande de salopes
06:11<bauer-a>salut
06:12<bauer-a>guys May i ask something ?
06:12<blanqu-a>Okay
06:12<blanqu-a>You may
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06:12<blanqu-a>Or you april
06:12<bauer-a>Can I fuck your mom
06:12<blanqu-a>No
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06:12<blanqu-a>She's dead asshole
06:12<bauer-a>oops
06:12<bauer-a>sorry
06:12<blanqu-a>:'(
06:12<bauer-a>some one else ?
06:13<bauer-a>just for one night
06:13<valentin_>on va manger ?
06:13<blanqu-a>You can do me if you want
06:13<valentin_>j'ai faim
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06:18<twb>KINgGh0sT: tearing happens when two layers of the video stack aren't updating in sync
06:18<twb>KINgGh0sT: one way to improve matters is to remove a layer (e.g. turn off compositing)
06:18<twb>KINgGh0sT: another way is to force syncing, but I don't know ways to do that
06:18-!-mode/#debian [-b *!*valentin@163.5.208.*] by jm_
06:19<KINgGh0sT>twb, what can I do? Watching Videos is pretty much impossible
06:19<twb>how are you watching videos? in vlc?
06:19<@jm_>maybe also try #ati on irc.freenode.net
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06:19<KINgGh0sT>kodi
06:19<twb>!kodi
06:19<dpkg>XBMC (formerly Xbox Media Center) is an open source media player application. XBMCbuntu and XBMC Live are Linux distributions based on <Ubuntu> containing XBMC, they are not supported in #debian. XBMC v13 ("Gotham") is available from <wheezy-backports>. XBMC will be renamed to Kodi for v14. http://kodi.tv/ #kodi on irc.freenode.net.
06:20<KINgGh0sT>but it doesnt matter even if I use vlc etc it still happens
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06:20<twb>in debian, with vlc, the next step would be to check how vlc is drawing to the screen (e.g. XV extension, plan X, OpenGL)
06:20<rmx77>hey all
06:20<twb>And try different options
06:20<rmx77>whats all goin down
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06:25<backbox>hi gays i want ask u some thing
06:26<duclicsic>jm_
06:27<jm_>I'm still here if you want something
06:27<rmx77>oh
06:27<rmx77>at least someone is around
06:27<duclicsic>!ask
06:27<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
06:27<rmx77>usually no one is around late at night or early morning
06:27<jm_>it's mid day ...
06:28<rmx77>well here its around oh 2 or 3 am
06:28<rmx77>well anyhow i am on raspbian a vairent of debian
06:29<duclicsic>rmx77: not supported here i'm afraid
06:29<rmx77>:'(
06:29<duclicsic>try #raspbian on freenode
06:30<rmx77>its totally dead right now
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06:30<rmx77>its always that no one is around when i want someone around and when i am not around they are
06:31<duclicsic>did you have a question?
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06:31<duclicsic>as much as we don't support raspbian, i'm sure someone will answer if it's within their power
06:32<rmx77>it should be since its debian
06:32<duclicsic>well, it's based on debian, but it is not debian.
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06:33<rmx77>well in the install of it it says debian but also called raspbian at the same time
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06:36<twb>If you can reproduce the problem with debian, you can ask about it here :P
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07:18<valentin_>cucu
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07:18<jm_>please stop with the crap
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07:38<alumno>hola yo no entiendo nd
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07:38<alumno>yyyyyyyy
07:39<alumno>vayansen a saben donde
07:39<grove>!es
07:39<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
07:40<alumno>ahh no puedo
07:40<s3b4>hola hola
07:40<s3b4>que cuentan
07:41<alumno>fijatevs
07:41<alumno>nd vs
07:41<grove>!chat
07:41<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
07:41<alumno>okk listo
07:41<alumno>entendi
07:45<alumno>hola hay alguien
07:45<jm_>please speak english here or find some other channel
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07:46<alumno>awww
07:46<alumno>como te llamas
07:47<s3b4>sebastian
07:47<s3b4>vos?
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07:56<alumno>brisaa
07:56<alumno>cuntos años tenes
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09:30<scootergrisen>What i install Debian i can type a host but what am i suppose to use this name for when i have localhost?
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09:39<musca>scootergrisen: A suitable network configuration enables users to use network applications.
09:40<musca>This also applies to local loopback.
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09:50<twb>scootergrisen: I don't understand the question
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09:58<dude`>hi ppl
09:59<dude`>anybody good with using gparted
09:59<grove>!ask
09:59<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
09:59<dude`>ty
09:59<dude`>MAYBE im in wrong place
10:00<dude`>cu im on ubuntu.... 14.04
10:00<grove>!ubuntu
10:00<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
10:00<dude`>lol
10:00<dude`>ok
10:00<dude`>thanks
10:00<dude`>stay groovy grove
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10:01<duclicsic>do other distros have this problem?
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10:05<grove>What problem?
10:06<duclicsic>I mean do people go in #redhat and open with "Hey i'm using <some obscure derivative> and have this problem"
10:07<duclicsic>ubuntu must have a pretty big support channel of its own. anyway I shall stop with the chat.
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10:07<grove>I imagine, but I haven't never been other distros' channels
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10:08<grove>(remove a negation from that)
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10:28<lthibault>Hello, I'm trying to configure openvpn under Jessie. The client config file states that the firewall should be disabled for the TUN/TAP interface. How can I verify that this is the case?
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10:31<sney>lthibault: jessie has no firewall active by default unless you explicitly set one
10:31<lthibault>sney, that's a good enough answer for me, thank you. :)
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11:57<alumno>hola, necesito saber como formatear la pc de fabrica
11:58<alumno>alguien sabe?
11:58<jmlongo>!es
11:58<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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11:59<alumno>#debian-es
11:59<alumno>?
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12:04<barteks2x>how can I get the latest stable version of git on debian jessie?
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12:04<sney>,v git
12:04<judd>Package: git on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:1.7.2.5-3; squeeze-backports: 1:1.7.10.4-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy3; wheezy-security: 1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy3; wheezy-backports: 1:1.9.1-1~bpo70+2; jessie: 1:2.1.4-2.1+deb8u2; jessie-security: 1:2.1.4-2.1+deb8u2; stretch: 1:2.8.1-1; sid: 1:2.8.1-1; experimental: 1:2.8.1+next.20160414-1
12:05<sney>,checkbackport git
12:05<judd>Backporting package git in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, virtual.
12:05<sney>barteks2x: self backport
12:05<sney>!tell barteks2x about ssb
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12:06<barteks2x>thanks, I will try that
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12:24<barteks2x>when trying to install latest git from source: Build command 'cd git-2.8.1 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed. What may be wrong?
12:24<SynrG>Without an error message, how can we tell?
12:24<SynrG>Usually missing build dependencies
12:25<barteks2x>here is everything I see in console: http://paste.debian.net/708845/
12:25<SynrG>But it should tell you that
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12:25<SynrG>Yes, exactly:
12:25<SynrG>dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libz-dev
12:26<barteks2x>I installed build deps
12:26<SynrG>Install that first and try again
12:26<SynrG>You installed build deps of what? *this* version?
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12:27<SynrG>Latest package may have different deps from the version in the repo for stable
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12:27<barteks2x>well... it said "packagename" in the instruction, so that's what I did
12:27<SynrG>When that happens, you get an error like this
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12:27<SynrG>And then you just install what it says is missing
12:28-!-mode/#debian [+l 760] by debhelper
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12:28<barteks2x>I didn't see that missing dependency message in all of the other messages
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12:29<SynrG>Well, now you know
12:29<SynrG>The messages are for developers.
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12:29<SynrG>Who are probably better at picking out the significant ones than an end user is
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12:36<barteks2x>"# failed 1 among remaining 42 test(s)" I don't think it means "successful"
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12:38<barteks2x>is there anything I can do if it wails this way?
12:38<sney>'apt-get install libz-dev'
12:39<barteks2x>I already did that before starting compilation
12:39<barteks2x>it failed some tests
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12:41<sney>uhh this is weird, libz-dev isn't listed as existing anywhere
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12:41<barteks2x>(don't ask me to copy the whole log, it would be several megabytes)
12:42<sney>that's unlikely, but whatever. it's probably a provides. hm
12:42<blast007>it's a virtual package, provided by zlib1g-dev
12:42<sney>^ there we go.
12:42<barteks2x>yes, this is what apt-get actually installed
12:43<barteks2x>now after 10 minutes of waiting for it (running "sudo apt-get -b source git") it failes on some test
12:43<sney>well, rm the git-2.8 directory and apt-get -b source it again. it probably got a weird result during dh_autoreconf
12:44<barteks2x>that will take some time...
12:44<sney>and if it fails again, yes, you can upload your whole build log. it will not be several megabytes. :P
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12:46<blast007>barteks2x: keep in mind you'll have to do this this periodically anyway, since you'll now be the one who has to rebuild the latest source package when there are security updates to git
12:47<barteks2x>"periodically" means every few days? weeks? months?
12:47<blast007>"when there are security updates to git"
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12:48<barteks2x>if I only knew when that is
12:48<blast007>you'll have to monitor that
12:49<barteks2x>or just go back to the version from officlal repositories after doing what I need to do with latest version...
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12:53<barteks2x>the log file is already 5MB and still growing
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12:54<barteks2x>it failed again. Log size 6.9MB
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12:56<barteks2x>I will upload it to dropbox, paste.debian froze when I pasted it
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12:59<barteks2x>here is the whole console output: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54602353/build.log
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13:00<barteks2x>there seem to be some invalid characters at the beginnign because I used "script" to create this file and I tried to use up arrow to run previous command.
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13:12<Estefania>hola
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13:13<barteks2x>what am I doing wrong? I just want latest version of git...
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13:18<sirvan>hi
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14:34<KellerFuchs>Hi. Is it possible to install simultaneously Postfix and an alternative MTA? It seems the packages msmtp-mta and postfix conflict (likely because both want to install their symlink for /usr/sbin/sendmail
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14:43<grawity>KellerFuchs: which one do you want as the main MTA, though?
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14:48<KellerFuchs>grawity: msmtp, but I need Postfix for receiving mails
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14:48<KellerFuchs>I /guess/ I can use a dpkg-override to symlink /usr/sbin/sendmail to msmtp
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14:49<KellerFuchs>(I need msmtp because Postfix's sendmail binary relies on being setgid, which breaks down in sandboxed that set the prctl NO_NEW_PRIVS flag)
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14:50<KellerFuchs>grawity: I could put set sendmail=/usr/bin/msmtp in /etc/mail.rc, but then I likely would have to fix the bajillion programs that ignore that setting
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14:52<Guest2308>Hi, I have a question reg. Bunsenlabs Linux!
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15:00<KellerFuchs>grawity: I mis-remembered the name, but it seems dpkg-divert(1) is what I need/want
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15:10<dieterd>Hello, I have a difficult question. Using an armhf system and trying brother printer to work. I found a solution http://ask.xmodulo.com/install-brother-printer-linux.html. With qemu there printing works but not scanner. Error: brscan-skey -l
15:10<dieterd> MFC-795CW : brother3:net1;dev0 : 192.168.43.128 Active
15:10<dieterd>qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped.
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15:15<dieterd>using jessie (armbian on cubietruck)
15:15<sney>debian derivatives are not supported in #debian
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15:22<SynrG>dieterd: try #armbian or #cubox on irc.freenode.net
15:22<dieterd>this uses debian armhf, much less differences than a distro.
15:22<SynrG>(sorry if i got your device wrong ... maybe cubietruck does not resemble cubox?)
15:23<SynrG>makes no difference. still not supported.
15:23<SynrG>!based on debian
15:23<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
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15:24<SynrG>dieterd: if the non-support of your distro of choice here is an issue for you. consider running pure debian instead.
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15:27<SynrG>actually, even if you were running debian, debugging third-party proprietary printer drivers isn't exciting support work, either :(
15:27<SynrG>maybe you can get Brother support to care about your issue?
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15:28<dieterd>same issue is with pure debian armhf also. there was an notice that something with qemu x86 emulation on arm processor is broken.
15:28<SynrG>yeah.
15:29<SynrG>i think only Brother can help you, in any case.
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15:29<SynrG>and it may be hard to get them to care overly much about such a niche platform
15:29<dieterd>there was also an notice that there is no help by brother.
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15:30<SynrG>guess you're between a rock and a hard place, then.
15:30<Guest2308>Thanks guys, I only wanted to know how to save persist live session on USB, since I am running it over usb and do not want to install on hdd. I shall try in their forum though. Thanks again.
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15:31<SynrG>dieterd: consider whether the TCO of a brother printer on Linux far outweighs the lower sticker price. after you've done the math, go shopping.
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15:38<dieterd>That I solved: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libgcc1:i386;
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15:39<dieterd>http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=126046
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15:44<dieterd>Jessie needs another work around.
15:45<lindi-_>dieterd: you are trying to run skype on armhf?
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15:48<dieterd>that I will try later.
15:49<lindi-_>dieterd: do they even distribute armhf binaries?
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15:54<dieterd>Since Brother printer drivers are developed for 32-bit Linux, you need to install necessary 32-bit libraries on 64-bit Linux or on a 32-bit armhf Linux. The same you do with skype 32bit Linux. On newer Debian or Ubuntu which has introduced multiarch, you can install this and try running this by qemu-i386-static commandofapplication.
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15:56<dieterd>In case of working, running a little very slow...
15:58<gasuleg_>hi, I want to pull some informations from my terminal to my C++ program and i don't have access to the main. how can i do that?
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16:01<dieterd>gasuleg_, you could try doing it by pipe
16:01<dieterd>http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2156
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16:04<gasuleg_>dieterd, i know all that but how can you push something in a C++ program with that?
16:04<dieterd>http://www.dreamincode.net/forums/topic/221906-named-pipe-c-on-linux/
16:08<dieterd>Or do you want to do this: http://serverfault.com/questions/178457/can-i-send-some-text-to-the-stdin-of-an-active-process-running-in-a-screen-sessi
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16:11<dieterd>Or: http://serverfault.com/questions/407902/write-to-the-stdin-of-a-running-process-with-the-same-effect-behaviour-of-direct
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16:34<lindi-_>gasuleg_: I'm not sure what you are trying to do
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17:08<brii>hola
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17:09<brii>hay alguirnn *-*
17:09<brii>alguien....
17:09<brii>hello
17:10<brii>bue salgo de esta mierda
17:10<brii>holaa
17:10<brii>juan <3
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17:20<amacater>dpkg: debian-es
17:20<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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17:36<brii>holaaaa
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17:39<arshad>welcome
17:39<arshad>me
17:39<arshad>der
17:39<arshad>any one?
17:40<brii>nou y yes
17:40<arshad>Cool
17:40<brii>shees
17:41<brii>entender español?
17:41<arshad>parrot OS There is No Driftnet ?
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17:42<brii>ahh ok no entendes
17:42<arshad>der?
17:42<sney>parrot os is not supported in #debian
17:43<arshad>Which OS is best for pentest?
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17:44<brii>okk <3
17:45<sney>arshad: none. no OS will make you a pentester. you need to learn skills first
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17:46<arshad>Where Through Internet?
17:47<sney>http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
17:47<arshad>is it useful to me?
17:48<sney>that is for you to decide.
17:48<arshad>Hmm
17:48<arshad>Thnx :)
17:53<arshad>That was good
17:54<arshad>s
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20:38<userrgfg>what
20:38<userrgfg>thst
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20:44<userrgfg>Using g[arted here
20:44<userrgfg>to give extra to my hd
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20:45<userrgfg>life
20:47<userrgfg>human here
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21:07<user_grgh>ola
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22:25<Magus_CFK>Hola?
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23:06<stephen>Hi can anyone get this ?
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23:08<temp>How do I autologin into my Debian Sid installation? I don't want to use a display manager to do it.
23:09<stephen>shit i dont know
23:09<sney>I've seen it done with getty but I can't remember the exact setup
23:09<stephen>Try slapping the screen 3 times .
23:10<temp>There are several solutions online that edit getty@tty1.service but none of them seem to work.
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23:12<chainsaw10>(Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this, just let me know if it is, and I'll go somewhere else.) I think I found an interesting bug in the postinst and prerm scripts for a package. They said they were generated with dh_python. I fixed my issue by manually editing the scripts in /var/lib/dpkg/info, but I'm guessing it should probably be fixed somewhere else :) Any idea how I can report that?
23:15<vortek>yes
23:16<vortek>chainsaw10 https://www.debian.org/Bugs/
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23:16<vortek>theres a link there to file bugs
23:17<sney>temp: I know raspbian does it successfully so if it were me I would probably copy their setup. but that might be what you already tried. also, for future reference, sid support is in #debian-next
23:18<temp>sney: ok thanks
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23:19<chainsaw10>vortek, Ok, thanks. A couple questions, if you have a moment: 1. How hard is it to use reportbug without a local MTA working? 2. It looks like the scripts in question were generated by dh_python. Should I report the bug about the package in question or against dh_python? (I can provide more detail if it's helpful)
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23:21<sney>chainsaw10: 1) reportbug will offer to use a debian smtp server, 2) probably the package itself but #debian-mentors is a good resource for dh-related questions
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23:22<chainsaw10>sney: thanks! I'll give both reportbug and #debian-mentors a shot (not in that order :)
23:25<vortek>reportbug don't need a local mta
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23:28<chainsaw10>vortek: thanks again!
23:31<chainsaw10>I have 2 versions of the package installed: one amd64, and the other i386. When I tell reportbug that the bug is in "gir1.2-ibus-1.0", it (simplified) complains that "gir1.2-ibus-1.0" is not installed, just "gir1.2-ibus-1.0:i386" and "gir1.2-ibus-1.0:amd64". Can/should I actually report a bug against "gir1.2-ibus-1.0:amd64", or should I report it against "gir1.2-ibus-1.0" instead?
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23:33<sney>it doesn't actually matter since both amd64 and i386 versions will have the same source package and thus the same maintainer
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23:34<chainsaw10>sney: ok, thanks!
23:36<vortek>your welcome
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