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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-05-28

---Logopened Sat May 28 00:00:34 2016
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00:03<xubuntu>site pour download Remastersys
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00:18<xubuntu>please sombody forhelp me to download Remastersys
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00:23<mauri>hola
00:23<mauri>alguien me puede ayudar
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02:15<Nocturius>anyone use tilda? I can't get it to slide up correctly, it just closes and then quickly opens again
02:15<Nocturius>I can't find a way in the settings to bind drop down and close to separate keys either
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02:16<Nocturius>using guake for now instead but don't really like the large tab bar on the bottom
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02:38<bill-auger_>i use guake - you can remove the tab bar in preferences
02:40<Nocturius>bill-auger: oh my god I don't know how I missed that, thank you
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02:48<bill-auger_>ya know what i like the nest about guake is the quick-open feature
02:50<bill-auger_>in case you didnt know you can still use tabs without the tab bar - CTRL-SHIFT-T opens new tab - CTRL-SHIFT-W closes current tab - and CTRL-PGDN cycles around tabs
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03:49<ownz0rjoo>trying to compile peanus 2.3.5 and getting a weird error.
03:49<ownz0rjoo>Something about invalid penetration
03:49<ownz0rjoo>Any help?
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03:50<bill-auger_>maybe you should consult the clergy in that one
03:51<ownz0rjoo>#clergy?
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03:58<pi_>hello, testing
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06:33<warhead>Hello to all
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07:44<simp>hi, after insterting an sd-card it doesn't mount properly and dmesg shows [ 255.551740] mmc0: Timeout waiting for hardware interrupt.
07:44<simp>any hints on what could help?
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08:08<cruncher>simp, did you try different cards?
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08:19<simp>cruncher, yes
08:19<simp>two cards, both of them work on my phone
08:19<simp>and two different size adapters
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08:57<cruncher>simp, i guess it worked "before"? did you update something?
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08:58<simp>cruncher, the last time I used it was a couple months ago, so it's kinda hard to say what has changed
08:58<simp>also i remember that back then I had to restart while the card was in, but it didn't help this time.
08:59<cruncher>simp, you could boot with some live cd to check if it works, or if the reader has some issues
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08:59<cruncher>its strange you had to restart for a sd card
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09:02<cruncher>simp, do some more messages follow the one you mentioned?
09:02<cruncher>(of course related to the issue, best is if you pastebin the log part)
09:03<simp>nope, that's the only thing, and it keeps repeating itself, yeah i'll post it in a sec cruncher
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09:04<simp>cruncher, http://paste.debian.net/711144/
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09:04<simp>a live cd seems like a good idea, i'll download one and it up
09:05<cruncher>better would be if you have a second notebook to test it
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09:08<simp>cruncher, just tested it in another laptop, but it's running windows. that worked fine
09:08<simp>will set up a bootable usb stick to see if it works under linux as well
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09:10<cruncher>so it is a fat fs
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09:11<cruncher>is it a integrated cardreader? usb?
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09:16<simp>cruncher, yes integrated
09:16<simp>dell e7440
09:19<cruncher>i can just tell you that i know of firmware problems (where a older firmware helped)), and of (usb) power issues (where using a powered hub helped, but will not be an issue for you as its integrated)
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09:20<cruncher>also i know of cards getting corrupted (where re-formatting it on a windows pc helped)
09:20<cruncher>maybe that can help you narrow it down
09:20<simp>ok, thanks :)
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09:32<cruncher>simp, i know also that for some people it worked with an older kernel, you can try that to narrow it down
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09:32<simp>cruncher, hmm, that'll probably break my multi-monitor setup
09:33<simp>as I had to go to the latest there to support it
09:33<cruncher>as i said, just to see if the kernel is the problem
09:33<simp>true
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09:35<cruncher>and by older i dont mean the last previous one.. maybe you can figure out which version you had when it was working?
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09:46<cruncher>simp, im curious about this bug... is the cardreader a usb device? (check with lsusb)
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09:47<cruncher>also, do you have more/different usb devices than "before"? maybe oyu can unplug them all and check again (maybe restart notebook)
09:47<simp>i'll go through the usb ID's, but i think it's usb yes.
09:48<simp>no other devices attached atm.
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09:49<simp>cruncher, it shows that i have three USB hubs, i'm guessing it's one of those?
09:50<simp>http://paste.debian.net/711244/
09:51<cruncher>no, not the hubs
09:51<cruncher>seems like your card isnt here
09:51<cruncher>i would restart the notebook, then lsusb again
09:51<cruncher>maybe you have some usb issue
09:52<cruncher>or check with lspci if its there
09:52<cruncher>maybe its not an usb device after all
09:52<simp>just restarted, nothing extra showed up
09:52<simp>the sd-card was in during the restart
09:53<cruncher>what about lspci?
09:53<simp>and dmesg is still giving [ 29.041940] mmc0: Timeout waiting for hardware interrupt.
09:53<simp> x4
09:53<simp>yes
09:53<simp>cruncher, it shows up there now
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09:53<simp>cruncher, 03:00.0 SD Host controller: O2 Micro, Inc. SD/MMC Card Reader Controller (rev 01)
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09:55<cruncher>can you pastebin a "lspci -vvv -s 3:00"
09:56<simp>http://paste.debian.net/711266/
09:56<simp>i'm guessing that <access denied> is important there?
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09:59<cruncher>can you check these 3 things: dmesg | grep sdhci ; dmesg | grep mmc ; lsmod | grep sdhci
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10:02<simp>cruncher, http://paste.debian.net/711277/
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10:02<cruncher>well, the line "mmc0: Unknown controller version (3). You may experience problems" probably says it all :D
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10:07<simp>cruncher, so it's essentially a kernel/driver incompatibility?
10:07<cruncher>simp, still, i would try with an older kernel
10:07<simp>just googled it as well, looks like redhat is having the same issues with dells
10:08<simp>and reports that a kernel downgrade has helped
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10:08<simp>i'll give it a shot
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11:44<buffered>How to access the bottom notification bar?
11:46<mtn>buffered: in what desktop or windowmanager?
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11:47<buffered>mtn, yes gnome |
11:48<buffered>mtn, I cannot open it, unless by accident when my cursor goes to bottom
11:48<buffered>I don't know how ti works
11:48<buffered>:(
11:48<mtn>buffered: usually running the mouse down to the bottom, or perhaps you can only see it when you hit Activites or the super key. they keep changing it ;)
11:49<mtn>buffered: there is an extension that will put it up on the top bar. the extension is called topicon, if I recall
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11:50<buffered>mtn, omg it just happened when I took it to the bottom but again it won't work again
11:50<buffered>:(
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11:51<buffered>mtn, I don't know man :
11:51<mtn>buffered: don't know what?
11:51<buffered>I love debian but it do not work
11:51<buffered>why won't it work when I take my cursor down again?
11:52<mtn>buffered: has nothing to do with debian, it is a "feature" of gnome. I told you you could add it to the top bar
11:52<buffered>it just works randomly only | not everytime
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11:52<buffered>topicon = cannot find
11:53<mtn>buffered: google: gnome extensions then do a search at that site for topicon
11:54<jmcnaught>buffered: Super+M is the keyboard shortcut to access the message bar
11:56<grawity>also, Ctrl+Alt+Tab
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11:59<buffered>Thanks all
11:59<buffered>:D
11:59<buffered>I love it now
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12:01<FLD>is there a command that lets me see what installed packages could be upgraded from jessie-backports?
12:02<FLD>oh yeah: "apt-get -t jessie-backports upgrade" should show me
12:03<sney>jessie-backports packages are not tested with each other (besides direct dependencies) so upgrading a lot of your packages to backports isn't recommended
12:03<FLD>yeah, that's why i like to look manually if there is something suitable available
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12:04<FLD>i just noticed that someone finally backported the new Audacious, which finally fixes the crazy seekbar behaviour
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12:52<Torne>just installed stretch on amd64 machine with nvidia gpu, and when on the gdm3 greeter, gnome-shell eats 100% of every cpu and makes the UI barely usable. once i log in, it stops and everything works perfectly fine, but if i log out again it starts again. any idea how to work out what's up?
12:53<Torne>haven't done anything other than install default task-desktop-gnome, everything is just default
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12:55<sney>Torne: testing/unstable support are in #debian-next
12:55<Torne>ah, sorry, thanks
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13:33<di0x>RIP
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13:58<jemadux>why in testing there is no aptitude ?
14:02<jmcnaught>jemadux: you perhaps didn't install it? aptitude is standard priority, so it gets installed if you select the "standard utilities" task in the select software screen of the installer. also stretch support is in #debian-next, this channel is for stable :)
14:05<Brigo>,v aptitude
14:05<judd>Package: aptitude on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.6.3-3.2+squeeze1; wheezy: 0.6.8.2-1; jessie: 0.6.11-1+b1; stretch: 0.7.5-3; sid: 0.8.1-1
14:05<Brigo>it is of course in stretch.
14:06<awwal>he meant, probably, why not installed by default :)
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15:27<Guest2390>printer appears to be connected but all jobs show as held, try to release for printing then still show as held
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15:33<sandiego>omg :(
15:33<sandiego>all nicks register brb
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15:33<thefreakjoe>hey
15:33<thefreakjoe>good evening all :)
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15:37<Texou>hi
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15:39<thefreakjoe>Texou, can you clarified if i am right, i pick the debian by the source.list and them i say i have debian jessy whessy or volatile ?
15:39<thefreakjoe>am i right ?
15:39<sney>no
15:40<Texou>oh
15:40<sney>http://www.debian.org/releases/
15:40<Texou>strange :)
15:40-!-Blacker47 [~Blacker47@00014f22.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:40<Texou>I know irc isn't the best place for this but... We're searching for votes for a project to make Debian more accessible. All info about the company (the project) are on http://hypra.fr (there's an English page). To vote (we need still 150 votes), http://fundtruck.com/hypra/ (it's in French but I can help to subscribe and vote translating (it's quick and easy)
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17:14<indy1>hello, I think i found a rather interesting error while running a debian jessie
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17:16<indy1>Firstly, I run the OS off a USB that is protected from being umounted. it is 8.1 GB. I also have another USB that's also 8.1 GB for file. Both are from the same manufacturer. For some reason Disk Utility thinks these two are the same USBs so when attempting to eject the file USB, it will refuse to.
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17:18<indy1>i thought it was because the USB was bad but it works fine and ejects with no problem on other OSes that use Disk Utility. Disk utility on this system doesn't even list the file USB as a mounted device. When formatting the device via nautilis, a foamtting animation will show up near the OSes device in Disk Utility like it's formatting that.
17:19<indy1>tl;dr Debian thinks USBs of the same type and size are the same therefore leading to confusion.
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17:21<indy1>I have no idea how I should go about reporting this bug though
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17:32<sney>indy1: that's weird unless they have the same blkid somehow.
17:33<sney>maybe it's gvfs oversimplifying?
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17:35<indy1>I too not know much about debian and coding to verify, hopefully someone else could investigate
17:35<indy1>* I do not
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17:36<indy1>But if anyone wants to reproduce this, get two USBs from the same manufacturer that have the same size. Have one as the bootable and one to format as any filesystem.
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17:37<indy1>sney: I assume it's some simplification of some sort. Thank you for your interest by the way
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17:59<posix>hi dudes
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17:59<posix>what is the name of roccat drivers under debian aptitude
18:02<posix>anyone know exact name of drivers roccat ?
18:04<ml|>posix: Try with apt-file: apt-file search roccat
18:04<Nemoder>roccat drivers are included in newer kernels. utils are not packaged in debian afaik
18:04<posix>not anyonre
18:04<posix>?
18:04<posix>the roccat-gui
18:04<posix>was so importante
18:04<posix>:(
18:05<posix>so change the led color
18:05<Nemoder>you can still build them from source from upstream
18:05<posix>teach me how
18:05<posix>if you please
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18:06<Nemoder>http://roccat.sourceforge.net/
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18:48<brii>hlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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19:03<brii>vayansen a la puta madre
19:03<brii>jajjajajajaj
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19:05<jmcnaught>!es
19:05<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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19:35<retroj>i find today that certain programs do not run, including qjackctl and qsynth. they just hang and create no window. they have in common that they both use Qt, but other than that, i have no leads as to how to debug such a problem. any thoughts?
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19:38<jmcnaught>retroj: try running them from a terminal to get the error messages
19:38<retroj>jmcnaught: there are no error messages
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19:39<jmcnaught>retroj: no errors when you run from terminal? do the man pages for these commands mention if there are options to increase verbosity?
19:39<retroj>jmcnaught: they also block other keyboard input to X. for example, window manager keys no longer work, until i press Ctrl-C to stop the program
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19:41<retroj>jmcnaught: nothing promising there
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19:42<german>Hi. I am using bumblebee with nvidia and it doesn't load nvidia-current kernel driver automatically. I have to log in console manually as root and modeprobe nvidia. If i don't do that and login the laptop hangs.
19:43<retroj>i recently switched to nvidia proprietary drivers, and i am finding some hints online that this problem that i'm seeing with qt could be related
19:43<german>i mean login in gdm3
19:43<jmcnaught>retroj: could be. you could also check "journalctl" output for clues
19:44<jmcnaught>german: did you follow the instructions here? https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee and have you done anything like install nvidia drivers from their website?
19:45<german>nop
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19:45<german>jmcnaught: nop
19:46<jmcnaught>german: no to both questions?
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19:46<german>let me see...
19:46<jmcnaught>german: the Debian wiki page also links to a troubleshooting page
19:47<german>jmcnaught: I have followed the instructions for bumblebee from that exact page. And i have installed the debian testing repository nvidia driver and bumblebee-nvidia
19:48<jmcnaught>german: are you mixing jessie and testing?
19:49<german>jmcnaught: I have installed 8.? from a dvd, then changed all in the /etc/apt/sources.list to testing
19:49<german>jmcnaught: and then apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
19:50<jmcnaught>german: okay. the support for testing is in #debian-next, this channel is for stable support
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19:50<german>jmcnaught: I only want to autoload modprobe nvidia
19:50<german>ok
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20:00<retroj>i found something to try that involves /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but my system doesn't use that config file, so i'm not sure where else to look. the fix is to remove a "FontPath" entry from xorg.conf
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20:03<jmcnaught>retroj: doesn't the nvidia driver require the use of that file?
20:04<retroj>jmcnaught: no, not anymore
20:05<retroj>jmcnaught: i have /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d now
20:05<retroj>nothing about FontPath in there
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20:07<jmcnaught>retroj: i would try as a different user, see if it's per-user config causing problems. Which desktop environment/WM are you using? Can you try a different one? Are you using any custom themes or anything like that?
20:07<retroj>(i don't know that FontPath has anything to do with the problem i'm seeing, but it's the closest i've found by searching)
20:07<retroj>i have a really minimal desktop setup, no display manager, just loading my window manager with .xinitrc
20:09<jmcnaught>are you using jessie?
20:11<retroj>my /etc/debian_version says stretch/sid. (i have sid setup for pinning, which i use minimally). my sources.list uses the generic term 'testing', and i have recently done a safe-upgrade
20:12<jmcnaught>retroj: this is the stable support channel, try asking in #debian-next (which is where you should go for support from now on :)
20:12<retroj>okay, thanks
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20:40<mikeparker731>hello?
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22:50<Celelibi>When I got the source with apt-get source, how do I apply the patches in debian/patches?
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23:09<russ>Hello does anyone know what i should do if an airodump scan isn't showing any clients that are associated? when in fact there are
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