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---Logopened Wed Jun 08 00:00:51 2016
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00:05<JesseW>OK, finished my upgrade/dist-upgrades
00:06<JesseW>I apparently have 191 obsolete packages still installed.
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00:06<fix|sputnik>fag
00:08<JesseW>none of them appear to be related to perl, though.
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00:09<jmcnaught>JesseW: can you put the results of "apt-cache policy" http://paste.debian.net/ ?
00:09<JesseW>sure
00:10<JesseW>jmcnaught: https://paste.debian.net/724947/
00:12<jmcnaught>JesseW: you probably don't need deb-multimedia, almost everything but libdvdcss is in jessie. What is the list of 191 packages, did you get that with "aptitude search ~o"?
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00:13<JesseW>Yes, that's where I got it.
00:14<JesseW>And yes, deb-multimedia was for decss.
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00:17<jmcnaught>you can also make a paste of that search if you want someone else to look at it :)
00:17<JesseW>I may. Do you happen to remember how to see what repo a package was installed *from* (if that info is stored)?
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00:29<JesseW>So my error message is "Perl API version v5.14.0 of Digest::SHA does not match v5.20.0" -- where would the 5.14 version be hiding?
00:29<JesseW>dlocate just shows the version from the perl package installed to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.20.2
00:31<Ahxau2ae>hi
00:31<Ahxau2ae>Where can I download Debian Live 8.5 ?
00:32<jmcnaught>dpkg: tell JesseW about which repo
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00:36<vertex>hi all
00:36<vertex>i just built lmms with VST plugins
00:36<vertex>i forgot to install winehq-devel:i386
00:36<vertex>now it worked
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00:43<JesseW>OK, I've got a more minimal test case: perl -e 'use Digest::SHA;'
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00:59<jm_>you can use this to find out where it's loading it from -- PERLDB_OPTS="NonStop=1 AutoTrace=1 frame=2" perl -dS -e 'require Digest::SHA;'
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01:00<JesseW>jm_: Thanks. It turned out that I had a copy of perl 5.14 sitting in my home directory, which it was cheerfully pulling from.
01:01<jm_>no problem
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03:41<jose_>Hi, is there any guide to setup Debian armhf qemu images?
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03:44<tomaluca95>hi, i have an issue with Marvell 88E8056 PCI-E nic, someone can help me?
03:44<jm_>how can you expect anyone to help you if you don't even explain your issues?
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03:45<tomaluca95>i'm debugging now
03:45<tomaluca95>now i see only droped pakages
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04:02<dtw>Do installer cd images exist for stable (8.x, Jessie) with newer kernels?
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04:03<jm_>haven't heard of those, maybe someone else knows better
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04:05<dtw>I'm planning to buy a new motherboard and need Linux kernel 4.3 for it - and I'd like to use Jessie. I'm not sure yet if the installer with older 3.x kernel will work.
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04:07<duclicsic>there definitely aren't any official images that will give you jessie with a 4.3 kernel
04:07<jm_>why do you need 4.3 for it?
04:07<duclicsic>what makes you think you need 4.3 to make your motherboard work?
04:08<dtw>Motherboard's chipset. I've already studied that.
04:08<jelly>where have all kmuto's images gone
04:08<jm_>no longer maintained
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04:10<jm_>would be surprising if you really need newer kernel to install
04:11<duclicsic>what kind of motherboard is it? i'd also be very surprised if it really needed such a new kernel
04:11<jm_>(it's not unusual for networking, but you can manually install bdo kernel for that)
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04:17<yuta>What is dropped and overlimits on tc command?
04:17<yuta>qdisc htb 1: dev eth0 root refcnt 2 r2q 10 default 7 direct_packets_stat 0 ver 3.17 direct_qlen 3
04:17<yuta> Sent 2429073788 bytes 2237745 pkt (dropped 1246701, overlimits 4370072 requeues 7)
04:17<yuta> backlog 0b 3p requeues 7
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04:18<jm_>maybe ask that in #lartc on irc.oftc.net
04:18<yuta>ty jm_ :)
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04:18<jm_>no problem
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04:20<duclicsic>dropped is literally what it says, dropped packets
04:20<tomaluca95>i can't set the marvell nic speed to gigabit, it goes only 100mbps, i tried ethtool -s eth2 speed 1000 duplex half but i got the error, tried ethtool -s eth2 speed 1000 duplex full autoneg off i got this http://pastebin.com/PTp3qUzD
04:20<duclicsic>overlimits are packets that hit the queue when the rate for that class was at its limit already
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04:20<duclicsic>they may not have been dropped though
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04:21<yuta>ty duclicsic
04:21<yuta>then
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04:22<yuta>how do I reduce it?
04:22<yuta>cuclicsic
04:22<yuta>duclicsic *
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04:22<duclicsic>you send packets at a reduced rate..
04:22<yuta>ok lol
04:23<tomaluca95>duclicsic: i just run the command, nothing else
04:23<tomaluca95>sorry
04:24<duclicsic>tomaluca95: i just read what you said above. i googled your initial problem already and found a reference to that very issue
04:24<duclicsic>someone else has reported not being able to set it to gigabit
04:24<duclicsic>maybe you should try googling the issue yourself
04:25<tomaluca95>tried, also tried to install their driver (to replace sky2) but nothing
04:25<jm_>sky2 is part of kernel, tried newer kernel than 3.16?
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04:29<tomaluca95>jm_: not yet, i'm tring to install their module
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04:38<yuta>and dulicsic , do you know certain r2q for 80kbyte/s upstream.
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04:57<yuta>no problem dulicsic. I have to learn :P
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05:07<adamt>Hi. I'm trying to allow a binary on Jessie to bind to a privileged port, using the capabilities system. I do "sudo setcap cap_net_bind_service=+ep foo", getcap lists the capability, but the application can't bind to port 80. The exact same commands work on my Fedora machine. Any suggestions on what or where to start poking?
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05:08<adamt>(the host in question is running a 3.16 kernel)
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06:19<willemb>Why doesn't needrestart pick up any of my custom services?
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06:24<willemb>also, checkrestart is listing MANY service needrestart seems to be oblivious about...
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06:37<tzdemon>hey guys
06:37<tzdemon>I'm using Parrot OS :D
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07:21<adamt>Hi. I'm trying to allow a go binary on Jessie to bind to a privileged port (80), using the capabilities system. I do "sudo setcap cap_net_bind_service=+ep foo", getcap lists the capability, but the application can't bind to port 80, with the usual not allowed error. The exact same commands work on my Fedora machine. Any suggestions on what or where to start poking/debugging?
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07:29<jm_>I did a quick test with nc and it works for me
07:31<adamt>jm_: Ah, i suppose i could check with another binary. What exacly did you do with nc? (I would like to replicate what you did, and know is working, accurately)
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07:32<jm_>adamt: as root: cp =nc /disk/tmp && setcap cap_net_bind_service=+ep /disk/tmp/nc, as user /disk/tmp/nc -l -p 888
07:33<jm_>you can test the last command after cp and before setcap
07:33<adamt>jm_: Thanks, i'll try that.
07:33<jm_>=nc is zsh for /usr/bin/nc
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07:35<adamt>jm_: Permission denied at my end. :-/
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07:35<jm_>adamt: interesting, is this jessie with debian kernel?
07:36<adamt>Is it possible to disable that capability somehow? Somebody else installed the machine, God knows what he might have done
07:36<adamt>jm_: uname -a says: Linux mesos-master-t01 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u4 (2016-02-29) x86_64 GNU/Linux
07:36<adamt>So that should be a debian kernel
07:37<adamt>"linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64" is the installed kernel package
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07:37<adamt>And yes, this is Jessie, but 8.3 and not 8.5
07:38<jm_>so i tested with jessie 8.1 and ckt11 kernel, and it also works for me
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07:43<adamt>I have a feeling somebody did something weird to the machine, that broke this feature, but I have no idea what that might be. Same thing happens to another of our jessie machines, this one running 8.4. :-/
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07:46<jm_>not sure if this is possible these days, it was possible in the past
07:46<petn-randall>adamt: Personally I'd just bind an unprivileged port (8080 or so) and then redirect packet going to port 80 to 8080. That way you don't have to start such a daemon as root.
07:47<jm_>what does cat /proc/sys/kernel/cap_last_cap show?
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07:55<bennitoz32>hi guys
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07:57<bennitoz32>Bye guys
07:57<bennitoz32>see you later
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08:02<willemb>why doesn't needrestart recognize my custom init scripts?
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08:07<willemb>oh, debian on oftc and debian on freenode is related in some way?
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08:14<petn-randall>willemb: It's not relevant if they're related or not, it's the fact that you wasting effort, as dpkg has told you.
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08:39<eltodi>hi
08:40<bittin>hi
08:40<willemb>thanks, petn-randall
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08:46<WrongDestination>Hi at all, I'm working on Debian 8 Jessie, I have several issues on launch .exe applications, it says every time "wrong exe format" or something like this
08:46<WrongDestination>Someone know anything that can help me?
08:46<petn-randall>WrongDestination: How are you trying to launch it?
08:47<WrongDestination>wine64 /home/$USER/eccecc/MyProgram.exe
08:47<petn-randall>WrongDestination: Can you give us the exact error message you get?
08:48<WrongDestination>This is if I try to launch an external exe, winetricks give me the same error on something else:
08:49<WrongDestination>Note: command 'wine /home/$USER/.cache/winetricks/vcrun6/vc6redistsetup_deu.exe /T:C:\windows\Temp\_vcrun6 /c' returned status 193. Aborting.
08:49<WrongDestination>wine: Formato EXE non corretto per Y:\vcrun6\vc6redistsetup_deu.exe.
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08:50<petn-randall>WrongDestination: I'm guessing this is because you're starting a 32 bit app with 64 bit wine. Install 'wine32' and try running it with that.
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08:50<WrongDestination>So wine on 64 bit doesn't launch 32bit applications?
08:51<petn-randall>WrongDestination: Oh wait, you need to do a little more
08:51<WrongDestination>What?
08:51<petn-randall>WrongDestination: If you run 'file /home/$USER/eccecc/MyProgram.exe', what output do you get?
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08:54<WrongDestination>acnara@ACRANA:/media/veracrypt1/Acnara/Games/Tekkyuuman$ wine /media/eccecc/Tekkyuuman.exe
08:54<WrongDestination>wine: Formato EXE non corretto per Z:\media\eccecc\Tekkyuuman.exe.
08:55<petn-randall>WrongDestination: I asked for 'file /home/$USER/eccecc/MyProgram.exe'.
08:55<WrongDestination>It's this file
08:55<WrongDestination>The path is irrelevant
08:56<petn-randall>WrongDestination: Read my statement again. I'm asking for *file* <program>.
08:56<WrongDestination>An example?
08:57<petn-randall>WrongDestination: file /media/eccecc/Tekkyuuman.exe
08:57<babilen>(that is, literally, the command)
08:57<petn-randall>WrongDestination: 'file' is an actual program. Not a placeholder.
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08:57<WrongDestination>ah, ok
08:57<petn-randall>:)
08:58<WrongDestination> PE32 executable (GUI) Intel 80386, for MS Windows
08:58<WrongDestination>The other who don't work:
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08:59<petn-randall>WrongDestination: Yeah, so it's 32 bit. You need to do two steps. 1) enable the 32 bit foreign architecture by running 'dpkg --add-architecture i386'. Then verify by running 'dpkg --print-foreign-architectures'.
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09:00<petn-randall>WrongDestination: 2) is then 'apt-get install wine:i386'. You should then get a wine32 binary you can use to start that app.
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09:01<petn-randall>WrongDestination: The wine libraries can be quite heavy, which is why wine is split into their respective architectures.
09:02<WrongDestination>Oh, fine, thanks
09:02<petn-randall>WrongDestination: Let me know if it worked out correctly. Ah, you also need to running 'apt-get update' after adding the architecture.
09:04<WrongDestination>It seems there the problem is here xD
09:05<WrongDestination>It's downloading
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09:06<WrongDestination>So that's why every time I tried to run something it crashes
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09:09<WrongDestination>Another thing while I'm waiting, i'm building a package with pre-builded binaries for personal use, but I don't know how to include other files, what should I do?
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09:11<WrongDestination>petn-randall: It says: '/home/$USER/.wine' is a 64-bit installation, it cannot be used with a 32-bit wineserver.
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09:12<petn-randall>WrongDestination: Can you paste the *complete* output including the command you're using to http://paste.debian.net?
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09:13<WrongDestination>wine /pathtofile/Tekkyuuman.exe
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09:17<WrongDestination>petn-randall: I answered your question
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09:20<petn-randall>WrongDestination: It would help if you would actually copy/paste the things I asked for, and not do interpreted copies. It will reduce the follow-up questions a lot.
09:22<WrongDestination>Ok, wait
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09:23<jelly>WrongDestination: if you're running a 32bit app you probably want a separate 32bit wineprefix
09:27<_4ls>Ìû
09:28<WrongDestination>http://paste.debian.net/726586/
09:29<WrongDestination>How I should I do this?
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09:30<WrongDestination>petn-randall: Above is the link
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09:32<WrongDestination>jelly: How should I do a separate wineprefix?
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09:35<petn-randall>WrongDestination: http://askubuntu.com/questions/177192/how-do-i-create-a-32-bit-wine-prefix
09:35<petn-randall>WrongDestination: I wouldn't follow the advice of deleting ~/.wine, the answer above that one is the preferred way.
09:36<petn-randall>WrongDestination: Just call your new 32 bit prefix ~/.wine32
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09:43<identy>Hi
09:43<identy>http://pastebin.com/YJMvPhGX
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09:43<identy>Anyone have any idea why I'm getting this error?
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09:43<identy>"N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free/binary-1386/Packages' as repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates InRelease' doesn't support architecture '1386'"
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09:43<identy>Does the mirror I'm using not support 32 bit?
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09:44<xormor>identy, it should be i386 instead of 1386
09:44<petn-randall>Was about to say :D
09:44<identy>lol
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09:45<identy>I must not be high enough.
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09:46<identy>Architectures are stored in /var/lib/dpkg/arch right?
09:47<identy>better yet I should just use dpkg to remove 1386?
09:47<identy>sudo dpkg --remove-architecture 1386 ?
09:47<identy>Is this correct?
09:47<petn-randall>identy: NEVER touch any files in /var/lib/dpkg by hand. Remove the wrong arch, and add the right one. Yes, it's correct.
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09:49<identy>petn-randall, Why is this? What would adding i386 to arch file directly cause?
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09:57<petn-randall>Tears. Mostly tears.
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10:44<jhutchins_wk>I suspect the cat.
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10:46<jhutchins_wk>There still isn't a way to migrate a 32 bit system to 64b.
10:46<jhutchins_wk>Is there?
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10:50<ansgar>jhutchins_wk: Some people managed to do so with multiarch... But I would just reinstall myself.
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10:52<barteks2x>I pressed some key and my touchpad stopped working. What may be wrong?
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11:05<WrongDestination>petn-randall: I have .wine and .wine64 directories, and if I switch wine 32bit in the first and the 64 bit in the second?
11:06<WrongDestination>What should I do to have this result?
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11:13<WrongDestination>petn-randall: Please answer me
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11:15<run_dfc>i'm trying to use aptly to create snapshots of the debian repos so i can guarantee consistent host builds & control the package upgrade process; i've got the basics working, but now i'm trying to test downgrading packages by pointing to an older repo snapshot & configuring apt pinning to always prefer the version in the repo even if it's older than what's installed (i.e., Pin-Priority >= 1000)
11:16<petn-randall>WrongDestination: Which result? You only described how the current state is.
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11:17<run_dfc>"apt-get upgrade" respects the Pin-Priority & will downgrade the packages, but i can't seem to get get aptitude ("safe-upgrade" or even "full-upgrade") to do so
11:17<petn-randall>run_dfc: up/downgrading from what to what?
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11:19<run_dfc>petn-randall: e.g., my test host currently has libtasn1-3=2.13-2+deb7u3 installed, but my repo has 2.13-2+deb7u2
11:20<run_dfc>apt-get upgrade will do the downgrade, but i can't seem to convince aptitude to do so
11:21<WrongDestination>petn-randall: I removed .wine and .wine64, i'm creating them with respective architectures
11:21<petn-randall>run_dfc: So we're talking about plain stable? I'm not sure why you want to build on a system with outdated packages. Have you had any build issues to to security updates?
11:21<xormor>it seems jessie-backports wanted to downgrade my printer drivers, and I let it do it.
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11:22<xormor>I do not have the printer here, it is being repaired at the same shop I bought it from.
11:22<xormor>a computer retail and repair store.
11:23<xormor>HP OfficeJet 6100 ePrinter. the color cartridges messed the insides of the printer and did not print properly.
11:23<petn-randall>xormor: Only if you pinned something with a priority > 1001 would that happen.
11:23<xormor>the black cartridge works just fine.
11:23<xormor>petn-randall, ok
11:23<petn-randall>!bat
11:23<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
11:23<petn-randall>xormor: ^^^^ these details would also help.
11:23<xormor>petn-randall, I am not sure... I did not "pin" it and I did not change the priorities, AFAIK.
11:24<xormor>petn-randall, ok
11:24<petn-randall>WrongDestination: Then just set the WINEPREFIX environment variable as shown in the link I gave you.
11:24<run_dfc>petn-randall: technically oldstable (wheezy); it's more common for the problems to be with some of our internally built packages (& even then not a frequent issue), but i was just trying to use upstream packages as a test for the downgrade process when i ran into this issue with aptitude not wanting to downgrade even with a priority > 1000
11:25<WrongDestination>petn-randall: Done. What should I do to test if it's working?
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11:26<xormor>petn-randall, http://paste.debian.net/726936/
11:27<petn-randall>WrongDestination: Run your program with the right prefix and wine binary.
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11:29<petn-randall>xormor: Ok, so you gave me 3. I still need 2. for the package with your printer drivers, and for 1. the logs in /var/log/apt/history.log that show your package got downgraded.
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11:31<WrongDestination>petn-randall: With 32 bit programs it works fine but idk how to use it in 64bit programs
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11:32<petn-randall>run_dfc: Can you show me the output where the wheezy installation fails to downgrade? Also note that downgrading is not supported at all, so you *might* get problems. This is quite rare in stable update packages, though.
11:32<xormor>petn-randall, http://paste.debian.net/726957/ <--- /var/log/apt/history.log
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11:33<petn-randall>xormor: You packages got upgraded. 3.14.6 < 3.16.3
11:33<petn-randall>*your
11:33<xormor>petn-randall, http://paste.debian.net/726986/
11:34<petn-randall>WrongDestination: WINEPREFIX="~/.wine64" wine64 /your/program.exe
11:34<xormor>petn-randall, yes, I saw it when I looked at the last one I pasted.
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11:34<xormor>petn-randall, everything is fine as long as the printer works. now the problem is not the drivers (yet), but the problem is the messing of the colors by the cartridges and/or the printer.
11:34<petn-randall>xormor: In that case it's a simple bug, I guess. Can you remove the printer and add it again? If that doesn't fix it, file a bug report against backports.
11:35<xormor>petn-randall, it did not get downgraded.
11:35<xormor>petn-randall, the problem with the cartridges was BEFORE I upgraded.
11:35<run_dfc>petn-randall: i need to go afk for a bit, but will put together a pastebin with the output when i get back; thx for your help
11:35<xormor>petn-randall, I don't think the problem is the drivers, it is the mechanism of the printer and/or color cartridges.
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11:36<petn-randall>xormor: Well, it's not really a Debian problem I can help you with if the mechanics of your printer is broken.
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11:39<WrongDestination>There's a way to make it automatically every time I run a 64 bit program?
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11:43<xormor>petn-randall, true
11:43<xormor>petn-randall, it is already being serviced at the store I bought it from.
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12:51<cuse>Hi there! Anybody else encountering SSL handshake issue after latest openssl update in Jessie?
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13:49<R4F_Debian>Hi all
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14:05<chele>Hi there, is there a way to import message filters to thunderbird/icedove?
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14:05<grawity>import from what exactly?
14:06<chele>.xml files export from gmail
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14:50<jasdoge>Hey I've been googling for a few days but can't find a solution that applies. I just can't get audio going in debian jessie, and only on this particular computer.
14:50<mtn>jasdoge: have you tried using pavucontrol?
14:51<jasdoge>yeah and that's the strange(?) part, when I plug it into the rear jack it says line out is plugged in, instead of headphones
14:51<jasdoge>but I still can't hear anything
14:52<mtn>jasdoge: have you tried all combos of devices in output and config tabs? checking volume for each combo?
14:52<jasdoge>yep
14:52<jasdoge>also ogg files refuse to play in rhythmbox
14:53<jasdoge>audio worked in ubuntu 16 but doesn't seem to work on debian jessie
14:54<jasdoge>it's a skylake socket motherboard, could that be a part of the problem?
14:56<jasdoge>gonna reboot, brb
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14:59<kion>I am getting a ton of this messages on Syslog --- - (wlan0): cannot send router solicitation: -1. Any ideas what this means?
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15:08<jasdoge>seems the sound isn't working because the kernel doesn't support the hardware
15:08<mtn>jasdoge: you could try a newer kernel from backports. that may support it
15:09<jasdoge>I'm still pretty new around linux, what should I be searching for?
15:10<mtn>jasdoge: what do you mean?
15:10<jasdoge>I have no idea how to do what you asked me to do
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15:10<mtn>jasdoge: https://backports.debian.org/
15:10<jasdoge>thanks
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15:16<jasdoge>I'm not entirely sure what I need here but I grabbed pulseaudio, realtek firmware and linux-base
15:16<jasdoge>gonna reboot and see if it worked
15:17<mtn>jasdoge: you need a new kernel. which is what I said
15:17<jasdoge>those were from this section https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/kernel/
15:17<jasdoge>that's not the kernel?
15:18<mtn>jasdoge: no, none of the things you mentioned were a kernel
15:18<jasdoge>could you give me a link to what I'm looking for?
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15:18<mtn>jasdoge: kernels are linux-image
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15:18<jasdoge>ok
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15:19<jasdoge>so like linux-image-4.5.0-0.bpo.2-amd64
15:19<mtn>jasdoge: probably you want linux-image-amd64, if you have a 64bit computer
15:19<jasdoge>yeah I'm using amd64 right now
15:20<jasdoge>ok it should be installed, gonna reboot
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15:46<WrongDestination>I added some programs to run applications properly, now audio it isn't working
15:46<sacarasc>I may have messed up upgrading stuff on a VPS, it seemed to have hanged, so I killed it, and now I can't really do anything.
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15:46<WrongDestination>ALSA lib conf.c:3325:(snd_config_hooks_call) Cannot open shared library libasound_module_conf_pulse.so
15:46<WrongDestination>ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
15:46<WrongDestination>err:ole:CoInitializeEx Attempt to change threading model of this apartment from multi-threaded to apartment threaded
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15:47<jasdoge>didn't seem to work, can I have a link to the page with the kernel again?
15:47<sacarasc>http://4992004370b473ac.paste.se/ is what I get now.
15:47<namoamitabuddha>Why isn't TeXmacs maintained in Debian now?
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15:48<mtn>jasdoge: do you mean this: https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/kernel/
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15:48<jasdoge>yeah thanks
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15:52<jasdoge>do I need any additional files other than linux-image-amd64?
15:52<mtn>jasdoge: not for the kernel, no
15:52<jasdoge>alright, gonna give it another try, brb
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15:53<a-l-e>hi... i'm trying to install debian on a dell xps 13 that came with ubuntu... when i choose the the usb stick with the iso for boot,i get into some sort of memory checking... any idea?
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15:54<jasdoge>audio works now! big thanks
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15:56<mtn>jasdoge: great
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15:57<mtn>a-l-e: how did you make the usb stick?
15:57<a-l-e>dd...
15:57<a-l-e>mtn: if i put an ubuntu iso on the same stick i can boot from it...
15:58<mtn>a-l-e: hmm. what iso are you using?
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15:58<a-l-e>debian-8.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso
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15:58<a-l-e>debian-stretch-DI-alpha6-amd64-i386-netinst.iso
15:58<mtn>a-l-e: which is it? both?
15:58<a-l-e>firmware-8.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso
15:59<a-l-e>i've tried all three...
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15:59<mtn>a-l-e: have you tried another usb stick?
15:59<mtn>a-l-e: oh, and is secure boot off?
15:59<a-l-e>well, an ubuntu iso on the same stick does work...
16:00<a-l-e>i've copied (and booted) the ubuntu iso before the debian ones and now also after...
16:00<a-l-e>i did not check secure boot...
16:00<mtn>a-l-e: debian will not work with secure boot on
16:00<a-l-e>... ah... and ubuntu does...
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16:03<a-l-e>ok, mtn disabled it. i'm dd-ing again the debian iso and i will try it...
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16:03<mtn>a-l-e: I hope it helps
16:06<a-l-e>yep, mtn! it did help... the installer even recognizes the hidpi monitor! thanks
16:06<mtn>a-l-e: great. have fun.
16:07<eightyeight>how do i add a new link to an existing name with update-alternatives(1)?
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16:16<eightyeight>ah. `--install'. seemed counter intuitive to me
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18:00<a-l-e>ok, stuck at loading the module for the wifi during netinstall...
18:00<a-l-e>lspci says that i have an intel 8260...
18:01<a-l-e>the internet says that then i need iwlwifi... which i can select in the list of the ethernet cards...
18:02<a-l-e>(and i have the netinst with firmwares...)
18:02<a-l-e>i've done a modprobe iwlwifi ... and lsmod shows iwlwifi as loaded...
18:03<a-l-e>the log console shows that a hotpluggable lo is detected...
18:04<sney>lo is unrelated to wifi. device name for iwlwifi would be wlan0
18:04<a-l-e>yep, i agree...
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18:05<a-l-e>still: i have no ethernet port and -- even if the wifi should be supported -- the installer does not seem to find it...
18:05<a-l-e>any idea what i could do?
18:06<a-l-e>(its a dell xps 13...)
18:06<sney>do you have a pci id for that wifi card? maybe it's too new for the stable kernel
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18:16<a-l-e>sney: what do you mean by "pci id"?
18:16<a-l-e>lspci shows it...
18:17<sney>if you run lspci with the -nn argument you will get the pci ids, they look like [abcd:1234]
18:18<sney>we have an infobot in this channel that has a compatibility database
18:18<a-l-e>it says [0280]
18:19<sney>no, at the other end
18:19<sney>lspci -nn
18:19<a-l-e>ah [8086:24f3]
18:20<sney>,pciid 8086:24f3
18:20<sney>hmm bot is being slow again
18:21<a-l-e>:-)
18:23<sney>well, in any case, my recommendation is to install using cd1 and then get networking after
18:24<sney>if you need a new kernel or whatever you can download the deb to a usb drive
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18:26<a-l-e>cd1?
18:29<a-l-e>sney: should i use the live cd?
18:30<sney>!cd1
18:30<dpkg>There are CD-1 choices for various DEs (Desktop Environments) - there's one for GNOME, another for KDE, one for Xfce, and another for LXDE. For example; if you wanted the Xfce CD-1 of Debian 8 "Jessie" for amd64, you'd grab -> debian-8.4.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso from the mirrors. Also ask me about <firmware images>, <release notes>, <ig>, <setup.exe>.
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18:30<sney>hm that used to have a url
18:30<sney>http://cdimage.debian.org/ in there somewhere
18:30<a-l-e>ok
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18:51<prahal_>how could I up a wpa interface via ssh ( ifupdown setup ) ? I noticed that the user session I ifup with owns the wpa_supplicant process, and when I logout , the latter is terminated (which kills the point and hte wpa connection)
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18:52<prahal_>user session pre systemd/loginctl
18:53<prahal_>I also masked the wpa_supplicant service (the dbus one ie -u), I though it would do no good with ifupdown
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19:34<prahal_>nvm I sorted it out (restart of systemd networking.service though it is a bit heavyweight it does the job)
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19:56<Skytech>How do you change the default browser on Debian?
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20:18<onryo>How did the branded "Firefox" make its way into testing? Would think the branding is a "critical issue" due to DFSG ?
20:21<onryo>Is the Firefox trademark free from all stings now?
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20:37<jalcine>Wait, firefox's not in main though
20:37<jalcine>it's only iceweasel, the rebranded one
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21:03<nevyn>onryo: things changed
21:04<nevyn>onryo: https://lwn.net/Articles/676799/
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21:58<LostSoul_>Hi
21:58<Delf>The font size in the address bar of chromium seems a little too small and it doesn't seem to follow the scaling factor in tweak tool
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