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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-06-17

---Logopened Fri Jun 17 00:00:05 2016
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04:42<blathijs>Hm, recently I noticed my hostname switched to use a uppercase first letter, anyone know what could be responsible for that? My /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts still have the lowercase version, but my shell and the hostname command show the uppercase version. It seems systemd is somehow involved in setting the hostname at startup, but I can't quite figure out why...
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04:47<bill-auger>i am pretty sure that hostname is case insensative - that is odd behavior but probably harmless
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04:50<jm_>checked /proc/sys/kernel/hostname?
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05:21<Walex>blathijs: they may be using the reverse-DNS lookup name too
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05:29<blathijs>Walex: Ah, good call! I recently switched to another router, so that seems to be it :-)
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06:17<JDel>Hey
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06:47<JDel>hey can root admins read PMs?
06:50<themill>you might need to be more specific about what you mean (and it sounds like #oftc might be a better place to ask)
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07:33<scootergrisen>I see "Headphones" when i turn volume up and down in GNOME. Is that string not translateable?
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07:35<rapist>is debian backoored?
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08:43<Guest4662>hi all, is there a channel dedicated to graphic issues or can i ask my question here? its about nvidia 340.x driver and a black screen after reboot
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08:47<towo^work>Guest4662, you could try to ask here, if you use the debian packages of that driver
08:47<towo^work>but you have to be precice
08:49<towo^work>a 1st start would be to telling us your nvidia card
08:50<towo^work>the best effort would be the output of lspci | egrep -i "vga|3d|display"
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08:53<k-man>i'm having some trouble with the open-vm-tools
08:53<k-man>i have them installed on the guest os, host is OS X. but file sharing and copy/paste are not working
08:53<Guest4662>ok, so i used the official debian tutorial (https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Version_340.96) and upon installing the apropriate kernel version(nvidia-kernel-dkms) the terminal asks me to install many many other packages, including the nvidia-driver package itself. still after a reboot the screen stays black and i have to reinstall the whole OS. I will try to post what the terminal tells me this time, last time it
08:53<Guest4662> asked different solutions via nvidia-xconfig
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08:54<towo^work>Guest4662, this all is saying zero
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08:54<towo^work>without knowing your nvidia hardware, no one can say anything helpfull
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08:58<Guest4662>sry output is 00:02.0 Display controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06) AND 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT200b [GeForce GTX 285] (rev a1)
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08:58<Guest4662>the later is the one i would like the driver for
08:58<Guest4662>compatibilitz list sais the 240.x driver is ok
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08:59<towo^work>Guest4662, is this a notebook?
08:59<bluca>that's an optimus notebook isn't it?
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08:59<towo^work>it doesn't seem so
08:59<towo^work>it seems like a desktop with wrong bios settings for the graphics system
09:00<bluca>oh you are right
09:00<bill-auger>yea why would a laptop have 2 video card from diff vendors
09:00<towo^work>bill-auger, because of optimus?
09:00<bluca>well that's what an optimus system is
09:00<Guest4662>ok so i will try to tell the bios to use only pcie graphics?
09:00<towo^work>never heared about hybrid graphics?
09:00<towo^work>Guest4662, yes
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09:00<bluca>hang on, did you install "nvidia-driver" ?
09:00<towo^work>Guest4662, you have to disable the IGP
09:00<bluca>you need that meta-package, that will install the whole lot
09:01<Guest4662>i think so because it was installed with the kernel command
09:01<bluca>ok then
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09:02<Guest4662>i just created the xorg file by hand and will try to reboot now. wish me luck : )
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09:07<buyy>hi all, i just want to say thanks, it seems to have worked this time. can someone tell me how i can check if the driver is loaded?
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09:07<buyy><- guestXXXX from 2 minutes ago
09:08<bill-auger>sudo lsmod
09:08<bill-auger>not sure what is it called? nv maybe
09:09<bluca>nvidia
09:09<bill-auger>lspci -v also i think
09:09<bluca>also run: glxgears -info
09:09<bluca>that will print info about libGL
09:10<bill-auger>glxinfo | grep Vendor
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09:16<buyy>lsmod puts out a lot of info, lspci i dont know where to look, glxgears also, glxinfo has no output
09:17<buyy>it shows vendor and model, is that a clear sign_
09:17<bill-auger>glxinfo has output - does it say "command not found"
09:17<buyy>no just nothing
09:17<towo^work>glxinfo | grep OpenGL should have an output
09:17<bill-auger>sudo lsmod | grep nv
09:18<buyy>sry whats the way to post multi line output with pastebin?
09:18<towo^work>and even a look in the x-log would enlighten you
09:18<buyy>ok not neccessary it shows the driver is installed
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09:20<buyy>wow, thanks so much guys, ive been having issues with this for days now. i thought i also tried the bios settings before but it seems that was the problem to begin with... im so happy i can game again and that the tethering of hell is gone. have an absolutely astonishing day everyone
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09:21<bill-auger>sudo lspci -vv - look under your nvidia listing for "Kernel driver in use:"
09:22<bill-auger>yes use a pastebin or gist or whatever and post a link in chat for long outputs
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09:25<seba>Hello there, I've got a question about debootstrapping, anyone who knows a bit about it ? :)
09:26<petn-randall>!ask
09:26<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
09:27<seba>Ok, sorry ! So, here's the situation, I want to install Debian on a APU2 board (it's a headless mini computer). I want it to boot on SD card and right now I'm setting up Debian on the board. I heard about debootstrap but I'm not sure about how it works
09:28<seba>Is it supposed to set up Debian from a host computer on the SD card, so I just have to pop the SDcard in my headless computer later ?
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09:33<petn-randall>seba: No problem, we've got some documentation on it:
09:33<petn-randall>!debootstrap
09:33<dpkg>debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap
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09:34<petn-randall>seba: Is the mini computer the same architecture as the main computer?
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09:36<Code104>hello all
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10:37<bucco>hi
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10:38<scootergrisen>Can i see a list of the most popular software some how?
10:38<scootergrisen>Like what software is used the most in Debian
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10:39<scootergrisen>Or higest rated or something like that
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10:57<sergiosantoro>Hola gente
10:57<sergiosantoro>como estan?
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10:58<sergiosantoro>soy nuevo en linux
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11:01<sergiosantoro>holaa
11:01<Anarka>http://popcon.debian.org/
11:01<sergiosantoro>que es eso
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11:19<scootergrisen>Can i some how sort out all the lib* and stuff?
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11:21<scootergrisen>I would like to sort out everthing that does not have a GUI
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12:42<oscar>HOLA
12:43<oscar>NO AY NADIE ?
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12:44<jrtc27>!es
12:44<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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12:45<jrtc27>!caps
12:45<dpkg>Don't write words all in capital letters unless they're abbreviations. To emphasize words, put an underscore ("_") on both sides.
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12:48<scootergrisen>like _this_?
12:48<retrospectacus>much better
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13:04<zorg24>Can somehow help me get bumblebee working (for an external monitor) on my W530, I've tried serveral different guides to no avail
13:06<blast007>zorg24: and you tried the instructions here? https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee
13:07<zorg24>blast007, I'll try that thanks
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13:21<zorg24>blast007, no luck I'm getting the error "Cannot access secondary GPU, secondary X is not active."
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15:56<xeno12>hi
15:58<sergiosantoro__>hi
15:58<sergiosantoro__>i am new in debian os
15:59<xeno12>hi sergio
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16:22<wild3>who does mutt depend on X libs and avahi... seems bloated for a text MUA
16:23<wild3>*why
16:23<wild3>lol
16:24<peter1138>doesn't here
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16:27<wild3>i see this on a new jessie install. mutt wants over 25 dependcies... libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0, libtiff, libxinerama1 etc
16:27<wild3>including libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3
16:27<wild3>is there possibly a mutt-tiny pkg?
16:28<muri>try --no-install-recommends
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16:28<grawity>I'm going to guess that it's mutt → libgpgme → gnupg → pinentry
16:28<wild3>with apt-get install --no-install-recommends mutt, it's the same.. "70.3 MB of additional disk space will be used."
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16:29<wild3>fonts-dejavu-core ??! for mutt?
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16:29<wild3>something seems broken with that pkg if it needs fonts
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16:30<wild3>here's the full list: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/ef766428
16:30<grawity>try `apt-get install mutt pinentry-curses`
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16:31<wild3>omg, thank you
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16:31<wild3>much much better
16:32*wild3 goes off to figure out what pinentry is
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16:34<grawity>the thing gpg-agent uses to prompt for passwords
16:35<wild3>how does that work for mutt though?
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16:38<grawity>...?
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16:42<wild3>nm, i see it now
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16:48<barteks2x>is there a very simple graphics editor for debian, that can open most common formats, has just some basic things, and starts almost instantly? Something closer to the windows paint than to gimp?
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16:48<barteks2x>the most important part: starts almost instantly
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16:50<bluca>gthumb comes to mind
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16:52<barteks2x>for the first minute I was thinking "how the hell someone thought github is graphics editor"...
16:52<barteks2x>I will try it
16:53<barteks2x>this is more like photo viewer, it doesn't allow to actually draw something. Bybasic features I mean: frawing circles, ractangles, some text, cut&paste etc
16:54<ramosaurio>some ideas please, i can't do right click in the touchpad
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16:59<barteks2x>I think kolourpaint is close enough
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17:38<jhutchins>barteks2x: lIST OF 15 http://www.tecmint.com/best-image-photo-editors-for-linux/
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18:57<Anto_Aumna2>Hola
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18:57<Anto_Aumna2>Alguien?
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20:12<R4F_Debian>Hi all, I intend to run 'sudo badblocks -sv -c 1024 /dev/sda to scan a hard drive here for checking badblocks. I was told there is a secure option that I should to include in this command, but, forgot about it.
20:13<R4F_Debian>I'm running Debian Jessie 8.5 with 'btrfs' and hope anyone can help me on this. Thanks !
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20:47<fraksken>o/
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20:48<fraksken>is there a way to change the behaviour of the nautilus-open-terminal package to open a different terminal app? I'm trying to set terminator as default, because I like the flexibility
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21:25<Dylan>hellow
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21:27<Dylan>hellow
21:32<Dylan>anyone there
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21:40<jmcnaught>Dylan: hi
21:41<Dylan>hi
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21:41<jmcnaught>Dylan: do you need some help with Debian?
21:42<Dylan>it dose not make sese
21:43<jmcnaught>Dylan: let us know if you have any questions, detailed questions are best.
21:43<Dylan>what do you talk about
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21:47<Dylan>bye
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22:34<somiaj>miehas: please do not spam the channel.
22:34<miehas>#leave
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