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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-07-04

---Logopened Mon Jul 04 00:00:41 2016
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00:20<fausy_>can anyone help me out with an issue with systemd's logind service?
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00:21<fausy_>when i login it shows the correct status, if i close the lid and reopen it then update status it shows the lid event
00:21<fausy_>but it will only actually suspend if i restart logind
00:21<fausy_>after restarting it works without issue
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00:36<fausy_>oh crap, nevermind i guess there's no way to make it work without using a DM
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00:36<fausy_>any suggested alternatives for lid suspend if i'm using xinit?
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00:46<grawity>the suggested alternative is *find out why logind hangs like that*
00:47<fausy_>so it should work without a dm then?
00:47<grawity>yes
00:48<grawity>it's got nothing to do with DMs, DEs, nor WMs
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03:22<farsight_>==
03:23<farsight__>0
03:23<farsight_>lxx sb
03:23<farsight__>777
03:23<farsight>sb
03:23<farsight__>fajianchao shi gou
03:23<farsight__>aaaaaa
03:23<farsight__>s
03:23<farsight__>s
03:23<farsight>luo x x shi sb
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03:24<farsight_>fanjianhao zhazha
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03:24<farsight>大棚 傻逼
03:25<farsight>大徐 傻逼
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03:25<Laoxu>caocaocao
03:26<farsight>罗叉叉 傻逼
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03:28<farsight_>ls
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03:28<farsight_>bsgd
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03:29<yun>大徐 傻逼
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03:29<farsight_>abc
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03:30<hu>gj
03:31<yun>真好玩
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03:31<farsight>
03:31<vortek>I real in the debian handbook the latest way the config a kernel is make nconfig.. but nconfig gives you no help. Is it ok to stil use make xconfig??
03:31<vortek>real=read
03:32<performer>范健超 渣滓
03:32<farsight>哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
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03:32<hu>不错哦
03:32<performer>哦吼吼
03:32<hu>可以可以
03:32<farsight_>chichichi
03:32<farsight>哈哈哈哈哈
03:32<yun>吃吃
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03:33<aaa>chichic
03:33<duclicsic>please stop spamming the channel
03:33<farsight>哈哈哈
03:33<aaa>吃吃吃
03:33<performer>sudo
03:33<yun>吃吃吃
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03:34<ying>哈哈哈哈
03:34<aaa>我的天
03:34<hu>饿了?
03:34<yun>何大棚 过来 打架
03:34<aaa>你在弄所撒呢
03:34<performer>和大鹏 来 solo
03:34<performer>
03:35<somiaj>vortek: I prefer menuconfig (that uses ncurses), but I assume xconfig will still work
03:36<vortek>ok
03:36<performer>can you speack Chinese?
03:37<aaa>can you speak chinense?
03:37<performer>speak
03:37<hu>hello
03:37-!-performer is now known as ssss
03:37<duclicsic>!cn
03:37<dpkg>如果您想要以中文得到 Debian 相關的協助,請加入 irc.debian.org 或 irc.oftc.net 上的 #dot 頻道,連線與加入頻道的方法請參閱 IRC 程式之相關說明,或於網路上搜尋。謝謝您的合作!
03:37<vortek>i figured out nconfig f1 gives u sytem help and f2 gives you help about the item
03:37<yun>what's your name?
03:38<aaa>whta?
03:38<somiaj>looks like there is gconfig for gtk if you have those libs installed
03:38<yun>看不懂 你说的话耶
03:39<somiaj>yun, aaa, ssss: This is a debian support channel in english. This is not a social channel.
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03:41<yun>I can't speak English.........
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03:42<Nokia>?
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04:01<vortek>whats a good i/o shceduler for a laptop with 8 gigs of ram?
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05:13<kblues>Hi, rdnssd kept back during upgrade jessie-->stretch due to conflict with network-manager. Already tried dist-upgrade. Other suggestions?
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05:18<Guest1777>is linset installed on parrot sec os_
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05:24<musca>kblues: the topic says: testing/unstable: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net)
05:25<kblues>thanks
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05:44<musca>hmm, he left, but bug #740998 and https://www.slightfuture.com/how-to/debian-dns-resolv point to clear solution.
05:44<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/740998 in rdnssd (closed, ipv6): «NetworkManager and rdnssd do not play well together»; severity: serious; opened: 2014-03-07; last modified: 2016-03-30.
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06:27<grawity>rdnssd? I thought NM supports RDNSS on its own already?
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06:37<nmarais>What # is recommended for general debconf16 chatter?
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06:48<pipedream>#debconf
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08:13<el_es>hi. I have LXC containers on a server, using the Simple Bridge network config; But the containers are likely started before the networking service is ready; Is is it likely to get fixed if I force lxc and lxc-net services to be last ?
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08:15<el_es>more info : server is jessie, containers likely too (debian template); after server reboot, I run lxc-info and containers are shown RUNNING; but no IP address to them; if I do lxc-stop -n container && lxc-start -n container, it is shown RUNNING and has IP.
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08:16<el_es>^server = host system
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08:17<xitela>hello?
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08:21<di0x>voilá
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08:22<nicolas>hello
08:22<el_es>hello
08:22<nicolas>i'm bored
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08:33<panina>Hey, anyone here with some experence with serial consoles?
08:34<panina>I'm trying to connect to a switch using minicom (and screen)
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08:34<panina>I'm getting output from the switch, but it's not getting my input
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08:53<Anarka>check parity ? i use 8N1 9600bps for cisco or juniper
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08:58<panina>@Anarka I use 8N1 38400 as per HP manual instructions. I haven't really experimented with different settings though, since I'm getting output
08:58<panina>But maybe I should
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09:04<Anarka>if HP says 38400 use it, anything with local echo ?
09:04<Anarka>weird if it doesnt work even with screen
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09:07<Anarka>local echo or flow control
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09:10<panina>Anarka, I've tried with and without local echo and flow control
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09:10<panina>and I see that 38400 8N1 is even written on the switch...
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09:10<panina>I'm kinda wondering if it's got something to do with windows/linux carriage return thingies?
09:11<panina>Since windows uses carriage return and form feed, and Linux just use one of them. Might the switch be in wait for the wrong signal? I'll have to try with a windows machine...
09:12<panina>I now also tried with cu, same result...
09:13<Anarka>you have settings for that in screen and keyboard
09:13<Anarka>in minicom..
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09:16<Anarka>have you tried from xterm or another terminal(silly idea)
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09:29<panina>Anarka, yeah I tried different settings for that in minicom, but didn't work. I haven't tried xterm. I have tried cu though, so now it's three terminals with the same result.
09:30<panina>I might have a windows machine up now though, so let's see if that brings more luck :)
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11:11<Walter_White45>Hello
11:12<Walter_White45>If I want to use another OS on the same drive where Debian is installed
11:12<Walter_White45>Could I just use a free partition on it and install Windows on it?
11:13<duclicsic>you could
11:13<jmlongo>If I recall correctly it has to be a primary partition
11:13<mtn>Walter_White45: best method is install windows first, then linux. windows will overwrite grub, and grub will have to be fixed if you install windows secone
11:13<jmlongo>or Windows will refuse to install
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11:13<Walter_White45>Oh
11:14<Walter_White45>What's grub?
11:14<mtn>Walter_White45: the program that boots linux
11:14<nicolas>grub is bootloader
11:14<Walter_White45>Ah
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11:15<jmlongo>and the one that will let you choose which OS to boot
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11:15<jmlongo>when you have more than one ;)
11:15<Walter_White45>Is it easy to fix grub?
11:16<nicolas>so so
11:16<jmlongo>yes .... and no .... depends
11:16<mtn>yes, no, maybe
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11:16<jmlongo>but it's not rocket science ;)
11:16<mtn>Walter_White45: have you considered running windows in a vm?
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11:17<Walter_White45>No
11:17<mtn>Walter_White45: much simpler and safer
11:17<Walter_White45>I don't know which VM is available for Debian
11:17<mtn>Walter_White45: many
11:17<nicolas>you can download virtualbox
11:17<mtn>Walter_White45: virtualbox is easy to use
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11:17<Walter_White45>apt-get install virtualbox
11:17<Walter_White45>?
11:18<mtn>Walter_White45: did you know that debian has a good wiki?
11:18<nicolas>yes
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11:18<dist>is it only centOs with its own VM ?
11:19<Walter_White45>mtn: No, but now I know it. Thanks
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11:21<Walter_White45>I found VirtualBox at the wiki
11:22<Walter_White45>But I don't know if it's possible to plug a Windows installing stick into the computer and install it on VirtualBox
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11:23<mtn>Walter_White45: vbox had a manual on their website.very good thing to read
11:23<mtn>had/has
11:23<Walter_White45>Okay
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11:24<mtn>Walter_White45: and there is #vbox on the freenode server, too
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11:33<Walter_White45>Okay
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11:42<EmleyMoor>Is there a way to query, within Debian, the manufacturer/model of the memory modules installed?
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11:43<Poenikatu>What is the default font for emacs on jessie? (i386)
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11:46<piper>EmleyMoor: haven't used it in a while maybe dmidecode
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11:52<piper>EmleyMoor: i guess not, i tried dmidecode -t 17
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11:52<EmleyMoor>piper: Found it
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11:53<EmleyMoor>Need to call my supplier to see if my existing RAM is suitable for the new motherboard I plan.
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12:03<gfjsdgk>hi
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12:11<Poenikatu>Which is the default font for GTK+2?
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12:19<gfjsdgk>hi
12:20<gfjsdgk>plz any one help me
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12:20<gfjsdgk>plzrply
12:20<blast007>gfjsdgk: have you asked an actual question yet?
12:20<jhutchins>!ask
12:20<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
12:21<gfjsdgk>i just installed debian 8 jessie but when it connect to internet it gives error
12:21<gfjsdgk>so i offlinely installed
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12:22<gfjsdgk>but when i m in installler they says realtec 8168 firmweare file is missing
12:22<gfjsdgk>so
12:22<gfjsdgk>and i use pppoe
12:23<gfjsdgk>but when i see in settings
12:23<gfjsdgk>there is no option for dsl connection
12:23<gfjsdgk>how to get it ?
12:25<jhutchins>!pppoe
12:25<dpkg>Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet (PPPoE) is a network protocol for encapsulating <PPP> frames in Ethernet frames, frequently used in DSL connections. There are kernel-space and user-space PPPoE drivers available for Debian. To install Debian using a PPPoE connection, ask me about <pppoe install>. To enable on established systems, "aptitude install pppoeconf && pppoeconf". http://wiki.debian.org/PPPoE
12:26<EmleyMoor>If you need to put firmware-realtek on first, download it to removable storage on another computer...
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12:26<gfjsdgk>ok then
12:26<canaima>juegos
12:26<gfjsdgk>what is the command to install it on debian and @ which location
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12:28<EmleyMoor>gfjsdgk: Just dpkg -i the file...
12:28<gfjsdgk>ohh
12:29<gfjsdgk>and i use dhcp
12:30<gfjsdgk>can i get online after installing that firmwere file
12:30<gfjsdgk>that debian told me
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12:30<EmleyMoor>gfjsdgk: That shouldn't be a problem. You might be able to... but read the bit about pppoe above
12:32<gfjsdgk>that file name isrtl_nic/rtl8168e-3.fw
12:32<gfjsdgk>this is the file name
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12:32<gfjsdgk>its my driver name in windows realtec r8168 ethernet driver
12:33<gfjsdgk>it means it is a driver problem ?
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12:38<gfjsdgk>?
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12:42<blast007>!firmware image
12:42<dpkg>Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>.
12:42<blast007>gfjsdgk: that netinst ISO may contain the firmware necessary to run your network device
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12:43<anddam>are there packags providing gcc cross-compiler on amd64?
12:43<somiaj>anddam: cross compling to what arch?
12:43<anddam>aarch64
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12:43<anddam>namely I'm looking for the ubuntu's equivalent of gcc-4.9-aarch64-linux-gnu to build android kernel
12:43<somiaj>aarch64? I don't reconize that arch?
12:43<somiaj>oh this is for an andriod so arm device?
12:44<anddam>it's (don't ask me way) the ARM 64 bit arch name
12:44<anddam>s/way/why/
12:44<anddam>(got a tired brain)
12:44<gfjsdgk>and also i have official disk of drivers there is diver of ethernet in cd
12:44<gfjsdgk>can i install that driver ?
12:44<anddam>somiaj: yea but the newer 64-bit archs are called that way
12:45<anddam>I could use the linaro prebuilt tools but I'd like to use those in repo, if available
12:45<themill>it'll be called arm64 in debian
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12:48<anddam>themill: and yet I cannot find gcc packages containing arm64 in jessie
12:49<gfjsdgk>https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-realtek
12:49<anddam>so I figure those aren't available at all, is that correct?
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12:49<gfjsdgk>can i get that firmware file link please
12:49<anddam>themill, somiaj: funny enough there's binutils-aarch64-linux-gnu in jessie
12:49<themill>anddam: the toolchain stuff keeps changing... I don't know what the current situation is
12:49<somiaj>I am seeing the packge you want in testing/unstable, but not jesie.
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12:50<anddam>Package binutils-aarch64-linux-gnu
12:50<anddam> jessie (stable) (devel): GNU binary utilities, for aarch64-linux-gnu target
12:50<anddam>that's from pdo
12:50<anddam>oh sorry
12:50<anddam>I misread
12:50<anddam>somiaj: the one I want, not the one I found
12:51<anddam>somiaj: I don't see it there either
12:51<anddam>I see gcc 5 and 6
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12:52<somiaj>anddam: that will be the gcc in testing/unstable
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12:52<somiaj>anddam: as for jessie, I'm not seeing any aarch64 stuff, so maybe it wasn't ready during the jessie release, or it is still called arm64
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12:53<somiaj>anddam: I'm unsure what it could be.
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12:53<anddam>somiaj: what do you mean you're not seeing, from apt CLI?
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13:22<gfjsdgk>i hv download firmware file from
13:22<gfjsdgk>https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-realtek
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13:23<gfjsdgk>but debian told me only one file rtl_nic/rtl8168e-3.fw
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13:23<gfjsdgk>how can i install that single firmware file to my debian jessie
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13:25<captnfab>gfjsdgk: under /lib/firmware/
13:25<gfjsdgk>should i just download to usb then copy paste to debian jessie
13:25<gfjsdgk>under lib/firmware folder
13:26<captnfab>if you install the firmware-realtek .deb, it automatically installs there
13:26<gfjsdgk>can u give me that link
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13:27<captnfab>http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-realtek_0.43_all.deb
13:28<captnfab>if you have a working debian box with non-free sources enabled, you can "apt-get download firmware-realtek"
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13:28<captnfab>or install it if its the installation you want add drivers to
13:28<gfjsdgk>there is no internet available in debian so how can i use apt get
13:29<captnfab>if you have an other one
13:29<gfjsdgk>and how to know non-free sources are enable ?
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13:29<captnfab>surely there's a dpkg bot invocation for thoses questions
13:30<gfjsdgk>can i download selected firmware file and copy tro usb then paste it in lib/firmware folder ?
13:30<gfjsdgk>is this working ?
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13:30<captnfab>dpkg: tell gfjsdgk about non-free sources
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13:31<captnfab>yeah, but you can also download the firmware .deb, copy it, and install it with dpkg -i the-firmware-file.deb
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13:31<gfjsdgk>ohhh
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13:32<gfjsdgk>okk i hv downloaded that file realtc all.deb
13:32<captnfab>good
13:32<gfjsdgk>and itransfering it to usb
13:32<captnfab>ok
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13:32<captnfab>then just dpkg -i it
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13:33<gfjsdgk>i just hv to do is paste it on desktop and then install it from terminal with dpkg -i file name
13:33<gfjsdgk>ok
13:33<gfjsdgk>and after installing can it autometically select driver that is complitable with my pc ?
13:34<captnfab>yes it should
13:34<captnfab>you may have to reboot
13:35<gfjsdgk>thank you very much for rplying
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13:35<captnfab>yw, I reply once every two years
13:35<gfjsdgk>and after that i can connect to dsl connection
13:35<captnfab>:D
13:35<gfjsdgk>nice
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13:35<gfjsdgk>i mean thanks to everyone who help me to solve my problem
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13:58<insty>I feel like a bird in the middle of nowhere.
13:59<jmlongo>well... don't stop flapping those wings! ;)
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14:02<lacek_urfi>i have a question
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14:02<somiaj>just ask your question
14:02<lacek_urfi>should i use pastebin ?
14:02<veggi3s0>if i do a fresh install of debian on a laptop with touchscreen would it natively support it , for instance i touch a part of the screen and it would be like the mouse moved there?
14:02<lacek_urfi>i meain presenting the stuff regarding my wuestion :D
14:02<somiaj>lacek_urfi: if you can type out the question in a line or two no need, but paste.debian.net is a good palce to put lots, errors, and outputs
14:03<lacek_urfi>thanks
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14:03<somiaj>veggi3s0: It may depend on the actual chipset the touchscreen uses. I don't have much experience with touch screens, so unsure on how many are supported.
14:03<veggi3s0>thanks
14:04<somiaj>veggi3s0: https://wiki.debian.org/TabletAndTouchScreen -- also might depend what features you want, it may only be some work by default and you'll have to do some configuring
14:04<jmlongo>veggi3s0: you may try a live version ... just to see if it works
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14:05<somiaj>but provided xorg detects the touchscreen, you should have some level of being able to tap it to do a mouse click.
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14:09<lacek_urfi>so i'm trying to set up a little gateway-box and basically i'm using the example iptables config that can be found on https://wiki.debian.org/DebianFirewall as an example to a basic gateway firewall. i removed some unnecesarry things like allowing SSH (for now) and the port forwarding to the internap web-server since i dont need, so this basically is only a nat-gateway box. I have two guests
14:09<lacek_urfi>set up in VBox one is a cliend one is the gateway. I'm using an init script to set up iptables. Here is the init script: http://paste.debian.net/776547/
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14:10<lacek_urfi>Am i correct that in this config this is althrough doing NAT (i can echo outside and get response) BUT some rules are missing to operate properly?
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14:11<lacek_urfi>i can ping global IPs and get response but as soon asi want dns resolution i get no response
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14:13<lacek_urfi>default policy on all chains is drop and thus i really dont get response if i ping the gateway from the inside LAN
14:13<lacek_urfi>i guess this is the thing that prevents me from resolving dns properly?
14:14<somiaj>lacek_urfi: what do you mean you set it up in vbox? Is the gate way inside a virtual network?
14:15<lacek_urfi>yes
14:15<lacek_urfi>the gateway has one vbox natively natted IF and an internal one
14:16<lacek_urfi>from the GW of course i can reach outside
14:16<lacek_urfi>the GW and the client is connected through an internal IF
14:16<lacek_urfi>also i have this whole setup at work on real metal
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14:17<lacek_urfi>today i was trying to set this up there but had limited success so i recreated the whole scenario in vbox and experiment there
14:18<lacek_urfi>i can say the scenario in vbox is set up properly. i have troubles understanding the firewall itself on the gateway machine
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14:19<lacek_urfi>and since this is an example setup from the Debian Wiki i guess i ask some help here :D
14:19<lacek_urfi>so as i can understand the forwarding chain is set up for proper NAT for dynamic IP on the outside NIC
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14:20<lacek_urfi>since ping is OK from the internal LAN i get that confirmed kind of good :D
14:20<lacek_urfi>but as soon as i try to nslookup/dig anything that involces dns resolution
14:20<lacek_urfi>(from the internal lan)
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14:21<lacek_urfi>i get nothing
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14:23<lacek_urfi>i'm a noob but i guess the problem here is there is no rule on the gateway-boxes firewall to accept anything from the inside LAN
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14:24<somiaj>lacek_urfi: I don't have time to try to figure out your network configuration, but here are some things. I would look at the iptables-persistent package for a script to bring up/down your rule chains. Some info about that is here https://wiki.debian.org/iptables. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianFirewall -- if you scroll down has an example for a basic gateway machine
14:24<lacek_urfi>I'm using that exact same example
14:24<lacek_urfi>from https://wiki.debian.org/DebianFirewall under basic gateway example
14:24<somiaj>lacek_urfi: I'm unsure where you are in going though all this, but maybe the examples for debian will help you. There is also ##networking on irc.freenode.net that can help when talking more about the network layer
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14:25<lacek_urfi>okay thanks
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14:27<lacek_urfi>i give my question a shot there
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15:02<martin_>I'm trying to make a tiny change to my local copy of ristretto. I can rebuild the software and install but my changes are not compiled into the new binary
15:02<martin_>apt-get source ristretto
15:02<martin_>quilt new remove-delete.patch
15:02<martin_>quilt add src/main_window.c
15:02<martin_>Edited src/main_window.c
15:02<martin_>quilt refresh
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15:03<ompaul>ERROR - redirect to irc fail
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15:04<martin_>Trying to make a tiny update to ristretto.
15:04<martin_>Following these steps
15:04<martin_>http://paste.debian.net/776554/
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15:04<martin_>The changes are not available in the new .deb
15:04<martin_>Any ideas
15:05<ompaul>what version of debian are you using and what version of the software are you trying to link together
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15:06<martin_>I'm using 8.5 and ristretto-0.6.3
15:06<martin_>There are no problems with the compilation or dependencies
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15:07<ompaul>does ristretto install as an ordinary package anyway?
15:08<martin_>How do you mean? using just configure && make && make install? I'm sure it does
15:08<ompaul>apt-get install ristetto
15:08<ompaul>does that work
15:08<martin_>Yes
15:09<ompaul>ok so apt-get remove ristetto is possible then you can start the build
15:09<ompaul>what is the failure
15:09<martin_>I have removed before dpkg -i
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15:10<martin_>Problem is that the changes I've made to the about box do not appear, none of the edits make it into the installed binary
15:10<ompaul>did you make the delta patch yourself or grab it from somewhere else?
15:11<martin_>I made the patch using quilt (quilt new patch-name.patch; quilt add src/main_window.c; edited file; quilt refresh;
15:11<martin_>)
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15:11<ompaul>so what was the compile fail?
15:12<martin_>The compile is not failing.
15:12<ompaul>ok so what is the error
15:12<martin_>Compile is successful, but the changes I've put into main_window.c are not in the binary
15:12*ompaul seems to be missing something obvious
15:14<ompaul>which steps here https://wiki.debian.org/UsingQuilt
15:15<ompaul>I really don't want to turn on a jessie box
15:15<ompaul>really really really don't :-)
15:16<itd>martin_: are the changes only missing in the installed package or also in the produced deb?
15:17<martin_>itd: I'm not sure how I can check the deb, but when I install that deb file with dpkg -i the changes are not in the /usr/bin/ristetto binary
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15:22<martin_>I can see my changes now.
15:22<itd>martin_: you could try dpkg with '-x' and then inspect the binary.
15:22<martin_>When I open the credits window I can see the addition of my name (only for testing purpose)
15:22<somiaj>martin_: did you apply all the patches first before making your own? I assume you have read through https://wiki.debian.org/UsingQuilt
15:23<martin_>But this time I run the dpkg-source -b ristretto (I'm unsure if that was needed)
15:23<martin_>So I'm going to try it again
15:23<martin_>thanks. I have been through this before but did not make proper notes for myself.
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16:02<gggggg>ho w to install sudo command
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16:04<ompaul>apt-get install sudo
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16:15<babilen>dpkg: sudoers
16:15<dpkg>From Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" onwards, you can grant yourself (minimally secure) root permissions for <sudo> by adding yourself to the "sudo" group: "adduser your_username sudo". See the man pages indicated by "apropos sudo" for more information.
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16:32<bgjjj>hi
16:32<bgjjj>i just installed realtec firmware file which was missing
16:33<bgjjj>and also when i type ifconfig i can see eth0
16:33<bgjjj>so i think driver is loaded with debian
16:33<bgjjj>automatically
16:34<musca>yes
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16:34<bgjjj>but i need to connect to internet but it show only four option like vpn ,bond , team ,bridge , vlan thats it
16:35<bgjjj>not showing ethernet or dsl in network manager
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16:35<bgjjj>i m useing PPPOE dsl connection
16:35<bgjjj>how i add dsl connection in network maneger
16:35<bgjjj>?
16:35<bgjjj>plz tell
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16:36<supaman>bgjjj: is your debian box functioning as a modem or router for your DSL connection?
16:37<bgjjj>dont know
16:37<admins1395>Hi
16:37<musca>!pppoe
16:37<dpkg>Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet (PPPoE) is a network protocol for encapsulating <PPP> frames in Ethernet frames, frequently used in DSL connections. There are kernel-space and user-space PPPoE drivers available for Debian. To install Debian using a PPPoE connection, ask me about <pppoe install>. To enable on established systems, "aptitude install pppoeconf && pppoeconf". http://wiki.debian.org/PPPoE
16:37<admins1395>Hi
16:37<admins1395>Hi
16:37<admins1395>Hi
16:37<admins1395>Hi
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16:37<bgjjj>ihv dircect connection
16:37<bgjjj>no router
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16:38<supaman>bgjjj: well, like our helpful bot just explained, use pppoeconf
16:38<bgjjj>is it working
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16:39<bgjjj>but i cant see dsl connecton in network maneger
16:39<bgjjj>after typing that command can i see dsl connecton ?
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16:42<supaman>bgjjj: see https://wiki.debian.org/PPPoE there is a section there about enabling pppoe for an already installed system
16:42<bgjjj>hm
16:42<supaman>bgjjj: you don't use network-manager to connect pppoe
16:42<bgjjj>hm
16:43<petn-randall>network-manager does support PPPoE, though. The package description says so.
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16:43<petn-randall>The wiki page is over 5 years old :)
16:43<supaman>doh, damn wiki :-)
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16:48<supaman>ahh, if I open up nm-connection-editor, then I can Add a new connection, one of the options there is a DSL, then under IPv4 settings the default setting there is PPPoE
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16:50<supaman>bgjjj: try opening nm-connection-editor, click Add, and choose DSL connection, create the connection and then you will given a new configuration window where you can put in your other settings
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16:52<bgjjj>after installing ppoeconf then i type nm-connection-editor
16:52<bgjjj>m i right ?
16:53<supaman>bgjjj: well, don't think you need pppoeconf if your gonna use network-manager (nm-connection-editor is part of network manager)
16:53<bgjjj>i will try
16:53<supaman>bgjjj: so use either pppoeconf or network-manager
16:53<bgjjj>i will come back in few minutes
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17:16<bgjjj>dsl is not shown
17:16<bgjjj>only vpn bond bridge are shown
17:16<bgjjj>wht to do
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17:17<supaman>bgjjj: well, use pppoeconf then instead
17:17<bgjjj>it will work ?
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17:18<supaman>bgjjj: never used it myself, so no promises
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17:30<bgjjj>can i just install pppoeconf deb file on debian and then from terminal to create it ?
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19:17<bath_pooh>hi
19:17<bath_pooh>how do i install NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-367.27.run
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19:32<musca>bath_pooh: better don't do that
19:33<musca>!nvidia
19:33<dpkg>Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net.
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19:43<bath_pooh>musca there's no other choice for me
19:43<bath_pooh>my display is very lo-res
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19:44<musca>!nvidia dkms
19:44<dpkg>For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
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19:44<bath_pooh>sorry, what does that mean?
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19:45<musca>The driver is packaged in debian, in the non-free section of the repo
19:46<bath_pooh>how do i activate it?
19:46<bath_pooh>i checked the repo list, there are no hidden repos
19:47<musca>https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
19:47<musca>!non-free sources
19:47<dpkg>Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «aptitude update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>.
19:49<bath_pooh>$ nvidia-detect
19:49<bath_pooh>bash: nvidia-detect: command not found
19:49<bath_pooh>^^^ debian's own recommended commands, do not work
19:49<bath_pooh>Edit /etc/apt/sources.list <--- how?
19:50<bath_pooh>where is the list??
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19:51<bill-auger>bath? yer a *nix noob i take it
19:51<bath_pooh>yer
19:51<bill-auger>that is where it is /etc/apt/ is the directory where lives a file named sources.list
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19:52<bill-auger>do you know the root password?
19:52<bath_pooh>yes
19:52<bath_pooh>ok i got it
19:52<bill-auger>ok do this
19:53<bill-auger>su -c 'nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
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19:53<bill-auger>the make the changes very carefully - then press together CTRL X
19:53<bill-auger>then press y for yes then press ENTER
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19:54<bill-auger>su -c mean you want to runn the nano command as root because that is a very important file that not everyone should touch
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19:56<bath_pooh> aptitude update
19:56<bath_pooh>E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
19:56<bath_pooh>E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
19:56<bath_pooh>i tried to update
19:56<bath_pooh>and got rebuffed
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19:58<bath_pooh>any idea why??
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20:00<musca>only root has permission to update
20:00<bath_pooh>how do i log in as root?
20:01<bath_pooh>i have done sudo
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20:01<musca>!debian-handbook
20:01<dpkg>The Debian Administrator's Handbook is at http://debian-handbook.info/ and can be browsed, bought and downloaded. From Debian 7 "Wheezy" onwards, it can also can be installed from the debian-handbook package. Also ask me about <books> <docs>.
20:01<bath_pooh>i have done su
20:01<bill-auger>you really do not want to log in as root
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20:01<bath_pooh>i am on the handbook
20:01<bath_pooh>the handbook is full of wrong info
20:01<bill-auger>apt is also a command that only proveleged uses may run - run like this
20:02<bill-auger>su -c ' aptitude update'
20:02<bill-auger>then install whatever you are tring to install like su -c ' aptitude install my-awesome-program'
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20:03<musca>we should check if he uses an optimus chipset
20:04<bill-auger>i dunno i just jumped in cause a saw a noob in distress
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20:06<bath_pooh>it's working i think
20:07<bath_pooh>how do i save this room?
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20:08<bill-auger>depend which client you using
20:08<bill-auger>xchat pidgin ?
20:08<bath_pooh>xchat
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20:09<bill-auger>dunno i dont use that one
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20:09<sney>in hexchat you can right click the channel and select autojoin, I don't remember if xchat had that feature or if it was newer
20:09<bath_pooh>ok it wants me to manually create an x config file or something
20:09<sney>but hexchat and xchat on debian will both suggest to join #debian
20:10<bath_pooh>i see
20:10<bill-auger>yea i would like to suggest someday they include and irc client in the nase distro and a link on the desktop to launch this room just like pupppy does
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20:13<musca>bath_pooh: that causes a lot of noise
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20:13<bath_pooh>ok
20:13<musca>^ err, that was meant to bill-auger
20:14<bath_pooh>According to the manual, manual configuration entails: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
20:14<bill-auger>yea i assumed that would be the argument against
20:14<sney>bill-auger: it's already in the desktop task and it already suggests to join this channel by default, any more would just end up with a lot of people joining here wanting to chat
20:14<musca>bath_pooh: the x config is just two commands:
20:14<bath_pooh>however, xorg.conf-d does not exist ijn the x11 folder
20:14<bath_pooh>the manual is wrong at every turn
20:14<musca>mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
20:15<sney>debian packages do not create directories that would be empty
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20:15<sney>the manual is right that xorg config snippets go in xorg.conf.d, it just doesn't make the directory for you.
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20:15<bath_pooh>$ mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
20:15<bath_pooh>mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d’: Permission denied
20:16<bill-auger>lol
20:16<bill-auger>su -c ''
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20:16<bath_pooh>thanks, what next?
20:16<bath_pooh>ive done it now
20:16<bath_pooh>what do i do next?
20:16<musca>echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
20:17<bill-auger>anytime you see "Permission denied" that probably mean this is a dangerous command that you need root password for
20:17<musca>again with su -c ''
20:17<bill-auger>nfg you have single quote in the inner command
20:18<bath_pooh>$ su -c ' echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf'
20:18<bath_pooh>No passwd entry for user 'DevicentIdentifier'
20:18<musca>hmm, tricky
20:18<sney>just put the snippet in a pastebin and have him make it with nano
20:18<sney>that echo command doesn't teach him anything
20:19<musca>ok
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20:19<musca>snippet http://paste.debian.net/776595/
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20:20<bath_pooh>oh yes. i already see that on the manual
20:20<bath_pooh>but what do i do with that?
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20:21<MeatHammer>Hello, I am trying to run a tcl script that is very old (circa ubuntu 5) to control a peripheral: http://pastebin.com/TZvAgCPC but I get an error early on: http://pastebin.com/w53dhLQM . Googling did not help, wondering if anyone knows?
20:22<sney>bath_pooh: (as root) nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf, paste those 4 lines in, save it. driver installed
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20:22<sney>MeatHammer: there seems to be a #tcl on freenode that may know
20:23<musca>bath_pooh: su -c 'nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf' I.e. use your root permission to edit a config file (a repeating pattern in linux)
20:23<bath_pooh>sudo -c ' nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf'
20:23<bath_pooh>usage: sudo -h | -K | -k | -V
20:23<bath_pooh>usage: sudo -v [-AknS] [-g group] [-h host] [-p prompt] [-u user]
20:23<bath_pooh>usage: sudo -l [-AknS] [-g group] [-h host] [-p prompt] [-U user] [-u user]
20:23<bath_pooh> [command]
20:23-!-bath_pooh was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
20:24<musca>well, he knows sudo
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20:24<bill-auger>yea but probably is not sudoer
20:26<sney>and hasn't figured out how to rejoin the channel either :/
20:26<musca>Not setting a root pw during installation makes your user member of sudoers
20:26<bill-auger>are you sure? i dont remember being asked to set root password
20:26<MeatHammer>sney ty i will try that
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20:33<musca>bill-auger: Appendix A.3 of the installation guide: Setting up your clock and time zone is followed by the creation of user accounts. By default you are asked to provide a password for the "root" (administrator) account and
20:33<musca>information necessary to create one regular user account. If you do not specify a password for the "root" user this account will be disabled but the sudo package will be installed later to enable administrative tasks to be carried out on the new system.
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20:34<bill-auger>touche
20:34<sney>it also says this in the installer prompts, which almost nobody reads >_>
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20:35<bill-auger>installer prompts?
20:35<bill-auger>lol
20:36<musca>A chicken can install debian if you place enough corn on the enter key.
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20:38<bill-auger>yea but it would overwrite the chicken's windows install
20:38<musca>probably, yes
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20:39<bill-auger>then he would need to use the turkey's computer to play that facebook farming game
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20:40<bill-auger>(the appropriate comeback is "yea that would suck")
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20:42<musca>and "Angry Birds" happens when the rooster comes home and find the chicken with the turkey.
20:44<musca>gn8
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21:59<Guest1905>fff
22:00<Guest1905>haha
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22:13<vortek>Hello, happy 4th. Im getting this error when i try to compile my kernel, i tried commenting it out in the .config no luck, and on google this happened to ther users
22:13<vortek>http://paste.debian.net/776599/
22:14<vortek>ther=other
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22:46<marcushh777>hi all
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23:10<vortek>never mind i fixed it
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