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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-07-05

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04:26<paul>Hello
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04:27<Jack56>Hello!
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05:09<plasmoduck>./ts3client_linux_x86: error while loading shared libraries: libquazip.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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05:10<somiaj>plasmoduck: you can use apt-file or packages.debian.org to try to track down which package contains that libary
05:10<somiaj>plasmoduck: apt-cache search libquazip comes up with the name as well
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05:11<plasmoduck>I already have libquazip1 and libquazip5-1 installed
05:12<Anarka>you dl the right version, i386 ?
05:12<plasmoduck>of teamspeak?
05:12<Anarka>yes
05:12<somiaj>yea you may need the :i386 packages of the libs installed
05:13<plasmoduck>Lastnight I tried the 64bit version and same problem
05:13<Anarka>or dl the 64 bits versiob
05:13<Anarka>oh :)
05:13<plasmoduck>so I just downloaded the 32bit version and same thing
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05:13<plasmoduck>so it's debian not playing nicely with ts
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05:14<plasmoduck>same kinda problem I had with spotify and steam
05:14<Anarka>i use it at home with no probs
05:14<somiaj>you just need to install the correct libaries, if using the 32bit binary, you'll need 32bit libaries.
05:14<Anarka>spotify needs some wired lib, just search google and youll find it fast
05:14<plasmoduck>Ill install the 64bit version again
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05:15<Anarka>are you running ./ts3client_runscript.sh ?
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05:17<Anarka>spotify needs the silly lib, info here for ex https://linuxconfig.org/installation-of-spotify-client-on-debian-linux-8-jessie-64-bit
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05:18<plasmoduck>Anarka, yes I am running ts3client_runscript.sh
05:18<plasmoduck>oh wow it worked that time
05:18<plasmoduck>maybe coz I just installed the -dev file of libquazip
05:19<Anarka>theres a ts3client_linux_amd64 that gives that error....
05:19<plasmoduck>that must have been it
05:19<plasmoduck>can I copy ts3client_runscript.sh to /usr/bin ?
05:19<somiaj>the -dev package shoudn't be needed for the lib, it only contains the headers if compiling the softweare
05:20<plasmoduck>I want to just type 'ts3' in the terminal and have it run
05:20<somiaj>plasmoduck: I'd put it in $HOME/bin or at least /usr/local/bin (this way it is not going to conflict with dpkg stuff)
05:20<Anarka>dont copy but link it
05:20<Anarka>ln -s /path/to/ts3client_runscript.sh /usr/local/bin/ts3.sh
05:20<Anarka>or something
05:23<plasmoduck>sweet thanks boys
05:25<Jack56>Hello !
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05:27<plasmoduck>sudo ln -s /home/cjg/Downloads/TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64/ts3client_runscript.sh /usr/local/bin/ts.sh
05:27<plasmoduck>that did not allow me to type 'ts' in the terminal
05:28<plasmoduck>cjg@fsociety:~/Downloads/TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64$
05:29<somiaj>you would have to type ts.sh
05:29<plasmoduck>same thing
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05:29<plasmoduck>$ sudo ts.sh
05:29<plasmoduck>No protocol specified
05:29<plasmoduck>QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display :0
05:29<somiaj>you don't want to run it as root
05:30<plasmoduck>why did I have to link it as root?
05:30<somiaj>because the user doesn't have permission to write the link in /usr/local/bin
05:30<plasmoduck>ah
05:30<somiaj>but you want to run the actual program as your main user
05:31<plasmoduck>Okay all sorted now :) Just had to ad it to my awesome rc.lua
05:31<plasmoduck>how good is awesomewm
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05:35<somiaj>plasmoduck: install it and decide if you like it.
05:36<Anarka>think he already did that
05:36<Anarka>and he likes it :)
05:36<plasmoduck>I love it
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05:40<vortek>whats a goood tool to monitor you cpu usage and the cores usage,, im loooking for a gui
05:40<plasmoduck>vortek, conky
05:40<vortek>possible monitor proceses to
05:41<plasmoduck>conky does everything
05:41<vortek>cool thanxs\
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05:41<plasmoduck>and gkrellm
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05:42<vortek>thanxs
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05:43<somiaj>I like xosview
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05:44<Jack56>Who developer C ?
05:45<plasmoduck>Jack56, might want to ask in #c
05:45<plasmoduck>##c rather
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05:46<Jack56>plasmoduck: channel #C ?
05:47<Jack56>plasmoduck: OK, thanks
05:48<vortek>gkrellm looks sexsy with all its features
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05:48<plasmoduck>vortek, conky is more flexible and sexier. Google Image search conky
05:49<plasmoduck>check out some of the configs
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05:50<vortek>k
05:51<vortek>ilike gk though it has a gui
05:51<vortek>but ill serach conky
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06:30<Jack56>cerrigno_: Sei italiano? Io si
06:31<grove>!it
06:31<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
06:32<Jack56>dpkg, io cerco aiuto in inglese
06:32<dpkg>Jack56: I don't know, could you explain it?
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06:32<Jack56>dpkg:
06:32<dpkg>no idea, Jack56
06:32<duclicsic>Jack56: dpkg is a bot.
06:32<duclicsic>don't try to talk to it
06:33<Jack56>dpkg: thanks
06:33<dpkg>de nada, Jack56
06:33<Jack56>duclicsic: thanks
06:33<Jack56>ok dpkg
06:34<Jack56>Bye !
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06:34*duclicsic despairs
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06:42<vortek>how would i apply this patch to the kernel? linux-patch-4.6-rt.patch
06:45<plasmoduck>I just installed xplanetFX but it's not changing my wallpaper
06:45<plasmoduck>it's stuck on my previous wallpaper image :/
06:46<petn-randall>plasmoduck: Have you tried configuring it yet? I'm sure it comes with documentation.
06:46<junkmechanic>its not in the official repos though
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06:48<petn-randall>vortek: If you want a 4.6 realtime kernel, they're already available in jessie-backports. Patching the kernel involves downloading the source, applying the patch and a lengthy compile time.
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06:52<vortek>oh
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06:52<vortek>thanxs
06:52<plasmoduck>petn-randall, yes I have
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06:53<plasmoduck>petn-randall, I'm using awesomewm and it's like it's not letting xplanetFX draw the new wallpaper image over the existing one
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07:04<Guest1989>hi all, can someone help me with paranoia issues? I have very strange behaviour of my Debian OS and think that my system is being hacked and was transfered into a rootkit-like arch linux in which this debian runs in a virtualbox. my conclusion comes from the general behaviour, oddities that werent there before. Im thinking of installing debian anew to see if these issues may really come from debian/the sys. Now to my question, is t
07:04<Guest1989>here any way to tell if my sys is running on virtual box/system??
07:04<lindi->Guest1989: yeah, look at output of lspci
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07:06<Guest1989>cant make out anything suspicious there...
07:06<lindi->Guest1989: can you publish it at paste.debian.net?
07:07<duclicsic>you think someone has moved your installed OS into a VM running an an entirely new OS?
07:07<grove>I've never heard of a rootkit that tried to hide itself by putting everything into a virtual machine, and I don't think it's very likely
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07:08<Guest1989>why does it show a wlan realtek ethernet? does this command list all controllers, because the only wlan connected to my pc is the mouse/keyboard receiver which should be USB not PCIe
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07:08<lindi->grove: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Pill_%28software%29
07:09<lindi->Guest1989: we can't see what's on your screen
07:09<lindi->Guest1989: (yet)
07:09<Guest1989>yes ducliscic my debian is acting strange in many ways, as were my mint installiations previously
07:09<duclicsic>I would very seriously doubt someone has done that
07:09<Guest1989>sry lindy i overread one line
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07:10<Guest1989>http://paste.debian.net/776647/
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07:11<lindi->Guest1989: looks like real hardware to me
07:11<grove>lindi-: Okay, now I have heard of that. Still haven't heard of it "in the wild" though
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07:12<lindi->Guest1989: that command does not mention wlan anywhere?
07:13<Guest1989>yes i think its just normal ethernet. any other simple ways to check for a VM?
07:13<duclicsic>Guest1989: you are not running in a VM
07:13<duclicsic>no further checks required
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07:22<Guest1989>thx for the help till here
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07:47<TeslasMHD_>Who want's to exchange his/her Jabber ID with me? :-)
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07:48<grove>TeslasMHD_: What do you mean?
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07:49<TeslasMHD_>grove: Who has lust to chat with me via Jabber (XMPP) instant messaging. ;-D
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07:53<huhuoyun>Hi, Linux-2.6.30 kernel api Linux-2.6.39-4 inconsistent with how to solve it? Or is there an alternative to the corresponding API do?
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08:03<lindi->huhuoyun: huh?
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08:09<huhuoyun>@lindi ??
08:09<lindi->huhuoyun: what are you trying to do?
08:09<huhuoyun>linux module devloper
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08:10<huhuoyun>linux module development
08:10<lindi->huhuoyun: you are trying to write a new kernel module?
08:10<qmanfroi>Hi all, I am on debian 7 and I would like to know if the directive "Should-Start: boot_facility_1" according to documentation here : https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts works for all daemons even if this row does not exist in the stock script ? thanks for your answer et have a good day
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08:11<huhuoyun>LSBize an Init Script
08:11<huhuoyun>LSBize ????
08:11<huhuoyun>what is meaning
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08:12<huhuoyun>@lindi enen
08:13<qmanfroi>sorry I don't understand your note
08:14<huhuoyun>LSBize What does it mean?
08:14<huhuoyun>haha
08:14<huhuoyun>I'm sorry, I did not clearly described
08:14<Iridos>try writing in whole sentences telling us what you are trying to do?
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08:15<qmanfroi>ok sorry
08:16<qmanfroi>I need to be sure nginx daemon stops before zabbix agent daemon
08:16<qmanfroi>After reading lot of docs I think I found my solution on the page above
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08:16<qmanfroi>with the directive : Should-Stop: boot_facility_1
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08:17<qmanfroi>If I right understood, if I add "Should-Stop: nginx" to my zabbix agent script, it must stop nginx before zabbix agent, is it correct ?
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08:18<huhuoyun>@Iridos Can you help me?
08:20<Iridos>are you writing from two nicks?
08:21<huhuoyun>Now there is a dongle, you need to use linux system.
08:21<Iridos>what?
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08:23<huhuoyun>USB加密狗
08:23<huhuoyun>usb dongle
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10:43<vezult>How do I get systemd to recognize a new init script? eg. not a service file?
10:44<vezult>for example, I installed couchdb from source..
10:44<vezult>and on a machine where I did this previously, I see this: /run/systemd/generator.late/couchdb.service
10:44<vezult>whereas on the current machine, systemd doesn't seem to know anything about it, I can't use update-rc.d...
10:45<vezult>and systemctl daemon-reload doesn't do anything about it
10:45<viccuad>is there an easy way to list all timezones on sysvinit (ala systemd timedatectl list-timezones)?
10:45<vezult>I'll admit to being pretty ignorant of systemd
10:45<vezult>so it's possible there's something quite obvious that I'm missing
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10:46<vezult>any pointers?
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10:48<qmanfroi>@vezult, don't understand you have or you have not couchdb.service in your filesystem ?
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10:48<bluca>vezul: if you only have an init, a service will be autogenerated at boot and installed in /run/systemd/generator.late
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10:49<bluca>you might be able to trigger the generation at runtime too but not sure how
10:49<grawity>systemctl daemon-reload, or telinit q
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10:49<grawity>it's part of the configuration load process
10:50<bluca>right, good to know
10:50<grawity>the sysv generator skips services which have native unit files, so maybe couchdb just added one?
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10:52<vezult>bluca: OK, so next reboot it should be autogenerated?
10:53<vezult>qmanfroi: I do not have couchdb.service. I was expecting it to be autogenerated somehow, or for there to be a utility for generating one.
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10:53<grawity>mkdir /tmp/gen; SYSTEMD_LOG_LEVEL=debug /lib/systemd/system-generators/systemd-sysv-generator /tmp/gen{,,}
10:53<bluca>as grawity explained, systemctl daemon-reload will generate it
10:53<musca>how did you check the existence of a service?
10:54<qmanfroi>in my opinion couchedb.service should be generated by deamon-reload
10:54<vezult>bluca: yeah, I did that...and didn't see any change in: systemctl list-units
10:54<qmanfroi>it is why I ask you if you have a .service on your system
10:54<qmanfroi>find /lib/systemd/system | grep couchdb
10:54<vezult>musca: I did: systemctl list-units. The couchdb.service doesn't show there.
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10:55<qmanfroi>strange
10:55<grawity>that's not what list-units does
10:56<grawity>if you're asked to `find /lib/systemd/system | grep couchdb`, then kindly please run `find /lib/systemd/system | grep couchdb`...
10:56<grawity>or, maybe, `systemctl list-unit-files` or `systemctl cat couchdb.service`
10:56<vezult>grawity: find / -iname 'couchdb.service'; *did* show couchdb.service, so it must have been generated by daemon-reload
10:56<qmanfroi>list-unit-files so ?
10:56<grawity>vezult: with what path did it show it?
10:57<vezult>/run/systemd/generator.late/couchdb.service
10:57<grawity>well, yes, then it probably was created by sysv-generator
10:57<vezult>so I guess I was incorrectly expecting it to show up in list-units
10:57<vezult>and assuming that when it didn't, it hadn't been generated.
10:57<grawity>list-units shows what systemd has in memory (including virtual units, but *not* units that are unused)
10:58<vezult>grawity: ah, OK.
10:58<vezult>thanks guys
10:58<qmanfroi>@grawity, thanks for this notice
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10:58<grawity>it used to be slightly different (kept unused units in memory for a while), but that was even less predictable
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10:58<musca>systemctl cat couch<tab>
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10:59<musca>didn't know that one :)
10:59<grawity>now it's mostly just "active or failed", so use list-unit-files to get literally everything
10:59<qmanfroi>I always use list-unit-files but I did not know the real difference with list-units
10:59<qmanfroi>so thanks grawity :p
11:00<musca>always a pleasure to lear from grawity :)
11:00<musca>learn
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11:01<qmanfroi>It is new for me but I confirm
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11:11<qmanfroi>I try again to ask my little question if there is an expert of sysvinit : I am on debian 7 and I would like to be sure that a specific daemon (nginx) is stopped before another (zabbix), so I read the doc and found the directive "Should-Stop: boot_facility_1" which can be add to the init script. You should confirm me it is a good track ? it is working ? thanks
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11:15<jhutchins>grawity: find | grep? Really?
11:16<grawity>jhutchins: yes
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11:17<grawity>most people here would have to spend more time trying to remember the correct find invocation (though if I afaik correctly, it's -path ".*couchdb.*" or -name "*couchdb*") compared to the actual 'wasted' CPU time by just piping the whole thing to grep.
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11:18<grawity>pipes and filters are a core principle of the unix philosophy, aren't they.
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11:25<qmanfroi>@grawity: I know the correct find invocation but I'm terribly lazy .. :)
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11:26<qmanfroi>just I avoid 'grev -v' and use 'prune' invocation because the perf difference is notable is this case
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11:27<qmanfroi>So nobody ever used the "Should-Stop" or "Should-Start" LSB init directive ?
11:27<qmanfroi>or knows a good way to prevent a specific daemon to stops before another on debian 7 ? thanks
11:28<retrospectacus>qmanfroi: those tags are the correct way. Nobody usually changes them though
11:29<retrospectacus>https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts
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11:30<qmanfroi>thanks @retrospectacus, I found the directive on this page but I would like check it is the best way (lot of people advice to use update-rc.d command which does not work from debian 6 ...)
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11:32<qmanfroi>@retrospectacus: but there is one question that the doc don't answer to me; when I modify the init script to add this directive, what Do have to do to take the new configuration in account withtout reboot ?
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11:33<retrospectacus>correct. update-rc.d is replaced by insserv several years ago
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11:33<qmanfroi>because I sould see for each runlevel the KXX change for my 2 daemons and it is actually not the case
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11:34<qmanfroi>@retrospectacus: yes according of some sources I am agree with you but on debian 7 if your read manual from insserv, it advices to use update-rc.d ...
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11:37<retrospectacus>I think this manual is too old
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11:38<qmanfroi>@retrospectacus: anyways, I am just surprised to not see the XX (k01, K02 ...) changing when I add my directive to init script and I think I sould run some command to regenerate /update the
11:38<qmanfroi>"/etc/init.d/.*"
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11:41<qmanfroi>I think '.depend.stop' in my case
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11:50<retrospectacus>I think you run insserv. maybe with some argument(s)
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12:57<anonymous>heloo
12:58-!-mode/#debian [+l 790] by debhelper
12:58<anonymous>whether here supports backbox?
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13:00<petn-randall>!backbox
13:00<dpkg>BackBox Linux is a distribution based on <Ubuntu>, developed to perform penetration tests and security assessments. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.backbox.org/ #backbox on irc.autistici.org. See also <based on debian>.
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13:47<ciaccia95>salve
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13:47<ciaccia95>qualcuno online? Avrei bisogno di aiuto
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13:51<CEP-2015-Jessie>hello
13:52<ciaccia95>hello
13:53<CEP-2015-Jessie>add personal folders in linux???
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13:53<blast007>CEP-2015-Jessie: what is a personal folder?
13:54<CEP-2015-Jessie>Pictures There is , I want the photos folder
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13:54<CEP-2015-Jessie>documents, pictures, music
13:54<towo`>create it
13:55<blast007>also, photos are pictures too
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13:55<towo`>:)
13:55<towo`>sounds like a windows user
13:56<blast007>windows 7 calls it pictures too
13:56<CEP-2015-Jessie>I want linux to recognize them , as it does with pictures , music , download
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13:58<retrospectacus>it does. What is the problem
13:59<CEP-2015-Jessie>no
13:59<retrospectacus>yes
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13:59<blast007>I'm not sure if there's a graphical way of editing this, but the 'bookmarks' on the side in the Gnome file manager are defined in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks
14:01<petn-randall>CEP-2015-Jessie: What do you mean with 'recognize'? Are you talking about shortcuts in the file manager?
14:01<blast007>ah, there is a "Bookmark this Location" option in the drop down menu. Though regardless, it doesn't add it to the top of the sidebar, if that's what you're after.
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14:09<CEP-2015-Jessie>https://imgur.com/2JCWk1b
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14:11<CEP-2015-Jessie>I want to add the photos folder , and appear on the list of personal folders
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14:13<CEP-2015-Jessie>petn-randall, yes
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14:14<CEP-2015-Jessie>bookmarked if you acknowledge and agree
14:15<retrospectacus>you can change XDC_PICTURES_DIR in that file
14:15<retrospectacus>I don't think you can add additional
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14:15<retrospectacus>XDG*
14:17<eightyeight>% mkdir $HOME/Fotos
14:17<eightyeight>done
14:18<CEP-2015-Jessie>My intention is to leave pictures only for common images and photos to images of the camera or phone or webcam ...
14:19<CEP-2015-Jessie>eightyeight, It is created and accessible , but I do not paracer in personal list of default folders
14:20<retrospectacus>the comment indicates you can add a directory and run "xdg-user-dirs-update" but I don't know if that will really work.. what would the name be?
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14:25<CEP-2015-Jessie>retrospectacus, name=Fotos, #"xdg-user-dirs-update" , it does not work
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14:26<SiceloX40>hi. i have a laptop with dead usb ports ... currently running Ubuntu 12, but I would like to install Debian on it. I possibly could get an addon card for USB, or take the hdd into another machine. however these two options aren't viable for this week as i'm away from home. is there a trick i could do perhaps?
14:27<retrospectacus>CEP-2015-Jessie: I think it is not possible :( http://askubuntu.com/questions/237349/how-to-define-completely-new-xdg-user-dirs
14:27<SiceloX40>i don't suppose there is, but maybe someone knows something special :)
14:27<petn-randall>CEP-2015-Jessie: Why don't you just make a bookmark on that folder? Your approach looks quite complicated to me.
14:28<petn-randall>SiceloX40: Do you have a DVD drive?
14:28<retrospectacus>SiceloX40: you could put the HDD in another machine and use debootstrap, or even the normal installer if the machines are similar enough hardware
14:28<itd>or try PXE booting.
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14:29<SiceloX40>no. has no dvd drive either
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14:29<SiceloX40>i guess yes, i'll wait till i'm back home and do PXE or move HDD
14:30<retrospectacus>SiceloX40: you could debootstrap debian onto a partition from ubuntu, but only if there is already a partition to use
14:31<petn-randall>SiceloX40: That's pretty much your options. Every type of boot that your BIOS supports, there's probably a way to install Debian. :)
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14:32<itd>(Never tried this.) Mounting the disk as raw disk in VirtualBox and then installing debian on it.
14:33<SiceloX40>retrospectacus: sounds interesting ... do you have somewhere i can read up on this maybe?
14:33*SiceloX40 would like to get ubuntu out of this machine asap :)
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14:37<CEP-2015-Jessie>thanks , very kind , I am Argentine , using google translator,
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14:38<CEP-2015-Jessie>retrospectacus, you enteindo me perfect, thanks , greetings from Argentina
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14:40<CEP-2015-Jessie>petn-randall, markers , perfect, as well as personal folder, thanks , greetings from Argentina
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14:43<LEIRE>U
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14:44<LEIRE>BUSO CHICO
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14:45<LEIRE>KDFC
14:46<LEIRE>EOOOE
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14:46<itd>LEIRE: hello, do you need help?
14:47<LEIRE>NO INGLIS
14:47<LEIRE>LOVE YUO
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14:48<CEP-2015-Jessie>itd, bugging , asking to meet boys
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15:05<retrospectacus>SiceloX40: lots of howtos online about debootstrap. The key thing you need is a partition to put it on. If your current disk is just one partition it may not be possible
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15:07<SiceloX40>retrospectacus: thanks. yes i've used debootstrap for some ARM machines i've used. i guess i'd better be patient for now .. otherwise i may end up with a machine that i can't boot at all :)
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15:07<retrospectacus>you certainly could
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15:27<itd>CEP-2015-Jessie: ah, okay. (Thanks!)
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15:43<terrible>i have problem with the audio in debian jessie since i open vlc any help??
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15:48<terrible>i have problem with the audio in debian jessie since i open vlc any help??
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15:54<jhutchins>!crosspost
15:54<dpkg>Posting the same question in several places at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums) is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>.
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15:56<calder4>!hurry
15:56<dpkg>Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... We do not cater to the ["me!me!me! : mine!mine!mine! : now!now!now!now!"] crowd .. so bugger off! Run home crying now ..and tell jo'momma that we spanked you!
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15:58<artur_mallmann>i have to ask. Do someone know what is the compiler used by debian community to build mesa drivers?
16:00<artur_mallmann>i believe the problems i have with games up to opengl 4 are related with gcc build. some advanced things just work with llvm build
16:01<artur_mallmann>i am using the jessie-backport mesa 11.1.3
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16:03<jhutchins>artur_mallmann: My uninformed guess would be gcc.
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16:08<artur_mallmann>jhutchins: so, i have to find if there is a reliable llvm build. thx for reply. I guess the same
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16:08<artur_mallmann>if there isn't then i have to try
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16:10<marcushh777>jhutcins: I never got tightvncserver to work with debian; but, vnc4server did ! Xvnc4 (configed the same way) works fine
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16:13<jhutchins>marcushh777: That's the good thing about there being so many (incompatible) vnc utilities in Linux.
16:14<jhutchins>marcushh777: Did you check for a bugreport or report it?
16:17<marcushh777>jhutchins: I am going to work up a reportbug for sure/ I got sidetracked atm but its coming soon...
16:18<marcushh777>... just wanted to let you know I had a work-around
16:18<marcushh777>... that's always nice
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16:19<marcushh777>I'm still trying to juggle who owns what, between raspbian, debian, pine64 debian, and freenode...
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16:21<jhutchins>marcushh777: One valid answer is "nobody".
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16:22<marcushh777>jhutchins: that is sooooo true...
16:22<marcushh777>:-}
16:22<jhutchins>marcushh777: http://freenode.net/project
16:24<marcushh777>yup
16:24<marcushh777>well, that's where #raspbian lives
16:25<marcushh777>#pine64 lives at irc.pine64.xyz
16:25<marcushh777>and #debin lives here
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16:25<jhutchins>Yes, and on oftc.net as well, where there are a number of related channels.
16:26<marcushh777>all of it overlaps, but some of the debian purists don't see it that way... although, pine64 uses ONLY debian repositories
16:26<jhutchins>marcushh777: The thing is that once you take the code out of the Debian repos, it's no longer Debian.
16:26<marcushh777>right
16:27<marcushh777>so, I've spent most of a week being confused and getting unconfused...
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16:55<AirPlanes2>hi
16:55<AirPlanes2><AirPlanes2> this is funny
16:55<AirPlanes2><AirPlanes2> https://youtu.be/KdSC5czgOFA?t=30m28s
16:55<AirPlanes2><AirPlanes2> What is d-i?
16:55<AirPlanes2><AirPlanes2> ping
16:55-!-AirPlanes2 was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
16:55-!-AirPlanes2 [~ShortBob@bzq-79-178-105-109.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #debian
16:55<AirPlanes2>Hi!
16:56<AirPlanes2>http://paste.debian.net/plain/776810
16:56<AirPlanes2>Didn't understand what funny
16:57<AirPlanes2>Please?
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16:58<AirPlanes>I'm AirPlanes now
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17:07<AirPlanes>hello?
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17:07<AirPlanes>777 people here
17:07<AirPlanes>7* 111 people here
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17:20<AirPlanes>hello?
17:20<AirPlanes>it's me
17:21<blast007>AirPlanes: do you have a Debian linux support question?
17:22<AirPlanes>what is that?
17:22<AirPlanes>a certificate or something?
17:22<marty>I do! pick me :-) Can someone confirm an icedove bug/problem I'm having??
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17:24<AirPlanes>marty, ????
17:24<marty>Is it true that icedove version 1:45.1.0-1~deb7u1 silently ignores timeouts to imap server, such that you can't tell the diff between "imap server gone" and "no new mail"??
17:24<AirPlanes>you are disgusting me
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17:25<marty>"oops"
17:27<marty>is it just me or do others experience this?
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17:28<marty>anybody here regularly use icedove?
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17:38<petn-randall>marty: No, you will get an error in the status bar when the connection times out.
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17:40<marty>thank you... I clearly am not getting that message. I notice that status bar messages disapear very quickly, but nothing in the error log under tools, either...
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17:41<jhutchins>marty: You could try another imap client, or you could try the backport (which I think is thunderbird now).
17:41<jhutchins>,v thunderbird
17:41<judd>No package named 'thunderbird' was found in amd64.
17:42<jhutchins>,v icedove
17:42<judd>Package: icedove on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.0.11-1+squeeze15; squeeze-security: 3.0.11-1+squeeze15; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 38.7.0-1~deb7u1; jessie: 38.8.0-1~deb8u1; wheezy-security: 1:45.1.0-1~deb7u1; jessie-security: 1:45.1.0-1~deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 1:45.1.0-1~deb8u1; sid: 1:45.1.0-1; stretch: 1:45.1.0-1; experimental: 1:45.2~b1-1
17:42<jhutchins>,v firefox
17:42<judd>Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 47.0.1-1~bpo80+1; sid: 47.0.1-1; experimental: 48.0~b1-1
17:42<jhutchins>marty: So not thunderbird yet.
17:43<marty>correct... the box I'm on is oldstable... and the version of icedove is 1:45.1.0-1~deb7u1
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17:49<marty>jhutchins, yes I could use another imap client, I just find it odd that icedove doesn't seem to make a clear diff between "imap server gone" and "no new mail" it really isn't behaving any differently. Of course I'll have to wait until my imap server comes back in either case.
17:51<marty>It makes me think I botched something, but everything else appears normal. I wouldn't have even noticed this if my imap server didn't go away.
17:51<marty>For most of the day I simply thought I didn't get any new mail.
17:52<jhutchins>marty: In my experience with Thunderbird as a mail client, it's just slightly more useful than hitting yourself in the head with a hammer. ymmv
17:52<jhutchins>marty: It's a fun exercise to set up something like nagios or icinga to monitor services like that.
17:52<marty>So that's why my hammer is so bloody!
17:53<marty>telnet <ip> 993 works great.
17:53<marty>I never expected a net client to silently ignore timeouts :-)
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17:54<marty>It was a "whiskey tango foxtrot" moment.
17:55<marty>thanks for your help... I think I should just stop blooding the hammer while I'm ahead
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18:01<marty>I'm off to find a new mail client I can live with... thanks for those that helped. Maybe I should just go home to emacs and forget I ever left.
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18:31<LEIRE>jñe
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18:32<LEIRE>.gñg
18:32<LEIRE>busco chico
18:34<LEIRE>kç+
18:34<LEIRE>n
18:34<LEIRE>pcosd
18:35<LEIRE>fkj
18:35<LEIRE> p
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20:33<silver>was Wayland named after Lucy Wayland?
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20:46<supaman>silver: nope, after the town Wayland, Massachusetts
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21:47<LostSoul>Is it normal that after installing Debian 8 it started in GUI mode?
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21:47<LostSoul>I didn't check any gui during insstalation
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22:44<LostSoul>nvm
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22:53<k-man>can i specify from the command line, which monitor and position to open a gnome-terminal on?
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22:56<k-man>ah yeah, that works
22:56<k-man>geometry that is
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23:16<suchmystery>hey again. i'm trying to install debian testing (latest netinst iso on a usb flash drive) onto my hp nc2400 laptop (core duo 1.2ghz, 2gb of ram.). i've tried two times to install it (one on dvd with a slightly older, xfce cd of testing, and the newer netinst one on the usb) and i keep getting the message that an installation step failed, and it is always "Select and install software". i have the laptop connected to etherne
23:17<sney>!testing installer
23:17<dpkg>Repeat after me: the testing installer is for testing the <installer>, not for installing <testing>. To install testing, do a minimal installation using the <stable> installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Installer bugs should be filed against the debian-installer pseudopackage. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
23:17<suchmystery>oh.
23:17<sney>the d-i page may say "we recommend using these images..." but they don't have to support it
23:18<suchmystery>sorry. i guess i'm gonna go get another installer then and see if it works
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23:19<suchmystery>thanks for telling me though
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23:20<sney>np
23:20<suchmystery>i'll try the mini.iso file then
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